‘Cows coming home!’: Mary Trump says ‘unprepared’ Donald is ‘short circuiting’ in court
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the impact of a judge's strict instructions on Donald Trump, who is accustomed to controlling narratives. The judge warns Trump of the consequences of disrupting court proceedings, including exclusion and potential jail time. The conversation explores Trump's psychological response to the loss of control in a criminal trial setting, which is a novel experience for him. The participants debate the absence of cameras in the courtroom, with some arguing it prevents Trump from spinning the narrative to his advantage, while others suggest it's a disservice to the public, who have a right to witness the judicial process. The summary highlights the unique challenges Trump faces in a formal trial environment and the broader implications for transparency in the American legal system.
Takeaways
- 📜 The transcript discusses Mary Trump's relationship with her uncle, Donald Trump, and the implications of a judge's instructions to him regarding courtroom behavior.
- 👨⚖️ Donald Trump is informed by a judge that he must be present at his trial, cannot disrupt proceedings, and faces potential jail time for misconduct.
- 🚫 The judge warns Trump that failure to appear in court will result in an arrest warrant, highlighting the seriousness of the situation.
- 🤔 Mary Trump is asked to comment on how her uncle might be processing these strict instructions and the limitations they impose on his usual activities.
- 💭 It is suggested that Trump is unaccustomed to not controlling the narrative or proceedings, which could lead to a significant psychological impact.
- 🧵 The discussion touches on Trump's history of fundraising off perceived grievances and how this situation might be used similarly.
- 🚷 The standard operating procedure of a 'parking warning' in criminal courtrooms is emphasized, indicating Trump is not being treated differently from other defendants.
- 📺 There is a debate about the absence of cameras in the courtroom, with arguments presented for both transparency and the potential for Trump to exploit the situation.
- 😴 A New York Times reporter noted that Trump fell asleep during the trial, which could be due to exhaustion from tweeting or psychological stress.
- 🤔 The lack of visual and audio access to the trial is considered a disservice to the public, who have a right to witness the judicial process.
- 👥 The conversation includes speculation on how Trump's behavior in the controlled environment of a courtroom might be perceived by those not typically part of his base.
- ⚖️ The importance of the American public seeing the judicial process at work is underscored, especially given the significance of the trial.
Q & A
What is a 'parking warning' in the context of a criminal trial?
-A 'parking warning' is a standard operating procedure in criminal trials where the defendant is informed of their rights and the consequences of disrupting court proceedings, which may include exclusion from the courtroom and potential jail time.
How might Donald Trump's reaction to the 'parking warning' be different from other defendants due to his personality?
-Donald Trump, having been used to controlling narratives and proceedings, might find it challenging to adapt to a situation where he has limited control. His personality, which includes a need for control and a history of reacting strongly when feeling cornered, could make it difficult for him to comply with the court's instructions.
Why might the absence of cameras in the courtroom be considered a 'travesty'?
-The absence of cameras in the courtroom could be seen as a 'travesty' because it prevents the public from witnessing the judicial process unfold in real-time. This is particularly significant given the high-profile nature of the case and the public interest in seeing justice served transparently.
What could be some potential negative effects of having cameras in the courtroom for Donald Trump?
-Having cameras in the courtroom could provide Donald Trump with additional ammunition to fundraise and rally his base. It might also allow him to control the narrative outside the courtroom by spinning the events to his advantage.
How might the presence of cameras affect the public's perception of Donald Trump during the trial?
-The presence of cameras could reveal aspects of Trump's behavior that typically play well with his base but may not resonate as positively with a broader audience. His lack of impulse control and focus could be perceived negatively in the strict setting of a courtroom.
Why did Donald Trump reportedly fall asleep during the trial, according to the New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman?
-It is suggested that Donald Trump may have fallen asleep due to being tired from being up all night tweeting, but it could also be attributed to the psychological stress and trauma he is experiencing as a result of the situation he finds himself in.
What is the significance of this trial in American history?
-This trial is significant as it involves a former president who is seeking to return to the White House, making it one of the most important trials in American history. It highlights the judicial process and the accountability of even the highest officeholders.
Why might Donald Trump's campaign activities be affected by the trial?
-The trial could affect Trump's campaign activities because he would be required to attend court on specific days, potentially limiting his ability to participate in campaign events, rallies, or other political engagements.
What is the general consensus on the importance of transparency in the judicial process?
-The general consensus is that transparency in the judicial process is crucial. It allows the public to see the justice system at work and ensures that the proceedings are fair and open, which is particularly important in high-profile cases.
How might the lack of live audio or video from the courtroom impact the public's understanding of the trial?
-The lack of live audio or video could limit the public's ability to fully understand the nuances of the trial, including the judge's instructions, the defendant's reactions, and the overall atmosphere of the proceedings. It may also reduce the public's trust in the process if they cannot directly observe it.
What is the role of social media, such as live tweeting, in providing updates on the trial?
-Social media, including live tweeting, serves as a way to provide real-time updates and commentary on the trial. It helps to fill the gap left by the absence of cameras in the courtroom, offering a play-by-play account of the events as they unfold.
Why might Donald Trump's behavior in the courtroom be different from his typical public persona?
-In the courtroom, Donald Trump would be subject to the rules and decorum of the judicial process, which could restrict his typical behavior. He would not be able to control the narrative as he does at rallies or press conferences, potentially revealing a different side of his personality to the public.
Outlines
🏛️ Donald Trump's Courtroom Dynamics and Psychological Impact
The first paragraph discusses the impact of a judge's restrictions on Donald Trump's behavior during a criminal trial. It highlights Trump's unfamiliarity with not controlling the narrative or proceedings and suggests that this lack of control is causing him significant psychological stress. The discussion also touches on Trump's potential reaction to the situation, including his inability to campaign or engage in his typical behaviors while subject to the court's authority. The paragraph notes the absence of cameras in the courtroom, which prevents the public from witnessing Trump's conduct during the trial, and the reliance on live tweets for information. It concludes by considering whether the lack of visual access to the trial may inadvertently benefit Trump by allowing him to control the narrative post-trial.
📹 The Debate Over Cameras in the Courtroom
The second paragraph delves into the debate surrounding the presence of cameras in the courtroom during Trump's trial. It contrasts opinions about the potential benefits and drawbacks of having cameras, which would provide a transparent view of the judicial process but could also provide Trump with additional opportunities to fundraise and appeal to his base. The paragraph emphasizes the unique nature of Trump's trial, being a high-profile case with significant historical implications. It also discusses the importance of the public's ability to observe the judicial process, suggesting that the absence of cameras and audio is a disservice to the American people. The conversation concludes with the assertion that regardless of the outcome of the trial, the lack of public visibility into the courtroom proceedings is a loss for transparency and public trust.
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Keywords
💡Donald Trump
💡Judge
💡Criminal Case
💡Courtroom Conduct
💡Arrest Warrant
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💡Campaigning
💡Gag Order
💡Psychological Trauma
💡Narcissism
💡Livestreaming
💡Judicial Process
Highlights
Mary Trump discusses her uncle Donald Trump's relationship and his current legal situation.
A parker warning is issued to Donald Trump, outlining the rules of conduct during his trial.
Trump is informed he could be excluded from the courtroom and face jail time if he disrupts the proceedings.
Mary Trump comments on the psychological impact of the trial on Donald Trump, noting his lack of control over the situation.
The discussion suggests that Trump is likely to raise funds off the trial, positioning himself as an aggrieved party.
Mary Trump explains that this is a rare situation where Trump does not control the narrative or proceedings.
The transcript mentions Trump's past behavior and how it contrasts with the strict conduct required in a criminal courtroom.
Concerns are raised about the lack of cameras in the courtroom, which prevents the public from seeing the judicial process.
Mary Trump speculates on Trump's unpreparedness for the trial and his potential inability to manage the situation well.
The psychological trauma and narcissistic injury Trump might be experiencing due to the trial are discussed.
A New York Times reporter's observation that Trump fell asleep during the trial is mentioned, possibly due to stress or exhaustion.
The absence of cameras in the courtroom is debated, with arguments for and against their presence.
The potential benefit for Trump to control the narrative outside the courtroom is discussed.
Concern is expressed that cameras could provide Trump with more ammunition to rally his base.
The importance of transparency in the judicial process and the public's right to see it is emphasized.
The discussion highlights the significance of the trial in American history, being one of the most significant.
Mary Trump predicts that Trump's lack of impulse control and focus will not play well with the public in a strict courtroom setting.
The transcript concludes with a call for transparency and the public's right to witness the judicial process in action.
Transcripts
marry again thanks for joining us mary i know that
one of the things are always asked is your relationship with
your uncle who is donald trump but i would to read something
specifically to you because i thought you'd be the best best
guess for this and that's going to be something called a
park are warning if we could bring that up on the screen
so the following went down with judge were shot down today with
donald trump or sen says you have the right to be present
during the trial and to assist your attorneys do you
understand trump says yes marshawn says if you disrupt
the proceedings you could be excluded from the courtroom and
committed to jail based on your conduct and the trial will
continue on in your absence do you understand trump
answers yes excuse me i do marshawn then says if you
do not show up there will be an arrest do you understand
trump's as i do mary trump mehring himself now
pun totally intended to a criminal case and a criminal
courtroom but mary the question i have for you is how
it is going down in donald trump's head the fact that you
now have a judge telling him you can't be anywhere but
court monday tuesday thursday friday he can't come
in or out until the judge lets him do it it's a mother
may i experience for him right
can't campaign can't be doing this and and he's
looking at a future
gag order violation hearing that we're going to get into a
little bit later with our legal voices let me talk about what
this is doing to donald trump just after how many hours
seven hours yeah it yeah and and you can go to oral
arguments in front supreme court i that's right yeah
before i answer that excellent question i just want to as as
the lay person in the group just let everybody you guys
those much better than i but it's really important to
point out that
parking warning is it's it's ten or so the donald trump is
already going to be raising money off of this has the
aggrieved party as if this is just been created to punish him
and treated differently from other criminal defendant
so i think it's always important to remind people that
this is standard operating procedure
he just the reason it doesn't feel like that to him is
because when it is life has she ever been in a situation in
which he does not control either the narrative or the
proceedings this is rare and this is i would suggest
since this is a criminal trial the most serious case in which
he is had virtually no control over anything that happens
inside that courtroom and indeed over anything that
happens to him if you stepped outside of the lines that
judgment on headset so he is quite honestly i know we said
this many times and it's been sure many times
he's freaks out when he feels like the walls are closing and
he freaks out and and access when he feels more did because
he so rarely ever has been i mean we're looking at a very
old and fairly complex psychology that goes back to
his childhood so for for the cows finally be coming home
when he's in his late seventies it's something that
he is not going to be able to manage well i think it's it's
a travesty as you said katie and joyce that there are no
cameras in the courtroom that there's no a live audio of
what's happening in this courtroom thankfully there
are live streamed live tweets so we can get sort of a play by
play
it's very different to be able to see the facial expressions
and the body language and i think we just need to when we
do get have the benefit of of the live tweeting and the
commentary that's going to be coming up later we see
though in some of the other guests to to take a step back
and realize that this is a unique situation and all fronts
life he is totally unprepared for it he never believed it
would come to this
there's a reason he tried to get this case the laid up
until the eleventh hour so he's not fairing well
the fact that he fell asleep
with according to new york times reporter maggie haberman
and there's no reason to doubt her is it because he was just
tired although that probably true because he was up all
night tweeting but it's also because of the this
psychological trauma he's experiencing the narcissistic
with that he's suffering right now is basically shorts are
getting him
so we we don't know if he was asleep he could have
contemplating beings
could have been that is he so coming up with a generally
speaking his contemplative i think it's an adjective for
him but were your view a sleeping although there there
were a few moments right when his eyes are closed but
you know mary i wanted to stick with this idea of the no
cameras because i've been reading different schools of
thought
i'm really good arguments of both sides some people think
it's a travesty i think the three of us would agree that
there's no cameras no idea why because i would love to
see the park or warrants being issued to donald trump as you
said and as joyce agrees we all agree parker morning is a
normal experience in a criminal courtroom all criminal
defendants are advised of a park are warning
but at this on that but on the flip side some people said
mary it would just help him because the narrative that he
does try to control is when he gets out of the courtroom
he likes to do the spin and so maybe it would be good
to see him being berated by the judge are being read as parker
warning the one that we're seeing on the full screen right
now so mary i mean i guess it is there any merit to the
idea that actually having cameras or video or audio
excuse me coming out of the courtroom would be a bad idea
for somebody like donald trump isn't just going to give more
ammunition to fundraise
listen to his base is his base they're not listening to
us they're not they're not listening to anybody is going
to contradict don't drop so
i guess that's true for that but we're talking about the
most sick significant trial at least one of them in
american history when a lot
yeah the the first formal trial of a somebody who was in
the white house and
wants to be in the white house again so you're going we're
going to have a much wider audience than we might
otherwise of and i think
the reason one of the main reasons like just a grey is
with the the assessment that it will help him is because we're
going to be seeing donald trump again in it in a unique
context usually at a rally or at a press conference he is
controlling the room he is controlling the narrative and
any gaffes or ramblings can be put down to he's riffing
he's i don't know doing improv you know it's always
explained away in this situation when he can't do
that he can't speak out of turn he needs permission and
we're going to see certain traits that seemed to play well
with people his his focus sluggishness that's part of
sec his lack of impulse control right and we're going
to see them
in a a very
strict setting that is you know what the american people
a good have a lot of respect for the judicial process
you know jurors it just in case there's any doubt in
anybody's mind jurors take their jobs very seriously
and people watching trials take them very seriously especially
if there's a judge in there who has a very for hand so we're
going to see donald
thinking that he's being tough and just looking in that short
and looking like he just cannot control himself
it's not going to play well with the people who don't go to
his rallies to the people who don't tune in all the time
who were kind of seeing this for the first time and i think
again not having cameras and audio quite honestly
regardless of how it plays outside of the courtroom is a
disservice to the american people we don't make these
decisions based on who it benefits or not it benefits
the american people to be able to see the wheels of justice
turning which by the way we've been denied for very
very long time
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