The Rabbit R1 is Just an App??

Waveform Podcast
3 May 202487:37

Summary

TLDRThe podcast episode features a lively discussion on various tech-related topics. The hosts start by debating the potential of YouTube Shorts being extended beyond one minute, considering user engagement and content depth. They then delve into their experiences with the Rabbit R1, an AI assistant device, discussing its bright orange design, functionality, and the recent software update that improved battery life and user interface. The conversation also touches on the Bird Buddy app, a social media platform for bird enthusiasts, and the rise in birding-related sales for Nikon. In the tech news segment, they cover Tesla's unexpected layoff of its supercharger team and the implications for the EV market. The hosts express their excitement for upcoming headphone reviews and discuss the Meta Quest's new features. The episode concludes with trivia questions that blend technology and ornithology, providing both entertainment and education.

Takeaways

  • 📺 The podcast discusses the potential for YouTube Shorts to extend beyond one minute, with varying opinions on the ideal length for short-form content.
  • 🎵 The hosts share their experiences with the Bird Buddy app, which identifies bird species through a bird feeder equipped with a camera and shares the footage on a social media-like platform.
  • 🚗 A conversation about Tesla's decision to lay off their entire supercharger team, which is a surprising move considering the importance of the supercharger network for electric vehicle charging infrastructure.
  • 🎧 Thoughts on various headphone products, including the Nothing Ear (1) and Ear (2), Bose's clip-on earbuds, and the Fairphone Fair Buds, are shared, highlighting their features, sound quality, and design.
  • 📡 Discussion about the Meta Quest's new update allowing it to view immersive panoramic images, and the potential for the Horizon OS to be licensed to third parties, similar to how Android is used across various devices.
  • 📱 The revelation that the Rabbit R1's OS can be side-loaded onto a Google Pixel phone, leading to debates on whether the device should just be an app rather than standalone hardware.
  • 🕊️ A trivia question about a bird-themed app that Microsoft advertised for Windows Phone 7 but wasn't actually available on the platform, which turned out to be Angry Birds.
  • 🔊 Commentary on the sound quality and user experience of different earbuds, with a focus on comfort, battery life, and noise cancellation features.
  • 📸 A brief mention of the Nikon brand's rise in sales, potentially due to the increase in birdwatching and the challenge of capturing fast-moving birds in photography.
  • 🤔 Contemplation on the future of AI assistants and their potential integration with smartphones, as well as the impact of companies like Google and Apple on the market.
  • 📸 Discussion on the appeal of the Rabbit R1's design and color, and how physical product design can create hype and desire for a product beyond its functional app-based equivalent.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of discussion in the beginning of the transcript?

    -The main topic of discussion in the beginning of the transcript is the concept of YouTube Shorts and the idea of potentially extending their length beyond one minute.

  • What app is mentioned for identifying birds and providing related information?

    -The app mentioned for identifying birds and providing related information is Bird Buddy.

  • What was the reason behind Tesla laying off their entire supercharger team?

    -The reason behind Tesla laying off their entire supercharger team is assumed to be cost-cutting, as referenced in the discussion about the company's stock price and profit margins.

  • What is the common name of the bird with the scientific name 'Cyanothis caerulea'?

    -The common name of the bird with the scientific name 'Cyanothis caerulea' is not provided in the transcript, but a trivia question related to birds is mentioned, which suggests that it might be a type of finch.

  • What is the significance of the term 'NACS' in the context of electric vehicle charging?

    -NACS (presumably referring to a charging standard or network) is significant because it is mentioned as a point where other EV manufacturers are switching their ports or shipping adapters to be compatible with Tesla's Supercharger Network.

  • What is the general sentiment towards the idea of extending the length of YouTube Shorts?

    -The general sentiment towards extending the length of YouTube Shorts is mixed, with some participants expressing the need for more time to convey their thoughts, while others argue that the current limit prevents content from becoming too long.

  • What is the discussion about the future of the Tesla Supercharger Network?

    -The discussion suggests that despite Tesla's decision to lay off their supercharger team, there is an expectation that the network will continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace, with a focus on maintenance and uptime rather than rapid expansion.

  • What is the Bird Buddy app and how does it work?

    -The Bird Buddy app is a social media platform centered around birds. It connects to a bird feeder that sends notifications when birds are present. Users can view live footage, identify bird species, and share their bird encounters with others.

  • What is the discussion about the Nikon company?

    -The discussion about Nikon highlights the company's recent increase in sales, which is attributed to the growing popularity of birding as a hobby. The challenge of photographing fast-moving birds has led to increased interest in Nikon's products.

  • What is the debate about the utility of having a separate device like the Rabbit R1 instead of an app on a smartphone?

    -The debate centers around the practicality and added value of a dedicated device like the Rabbit R1 versus using an app on a smartphone. The participants discuss the marketing appeal and physical presence of a standalone device, despite the functionality potentially being replicated on a phone.

  • What is the discussion about the potential of large language models in AI assistants?

    -The discussion explores the future possibilities of large language models in AI assistants, suggesting that these models could offer significant improvements in functionality and user experience, but also acknowledging the current limitations of such devices.

Outlines

00:00

😀 Podcast Discussion on YouTube Shorts and Bird Buddy App

The podcast begins with a conversation about YouTube Shorts and the limitations of the one-minute format. The hosts discuss their experiences with the Bird Buddy app, which allows users to identify bird species through their feeders. They talk about the app's features, such as live streaming, species identification, and the social media aspect of sharing bird sightings.

05:00

🚗 Tesla's Unexpected Layoff of Supercharger Team

The discussion shifts to Tesla's surprising decision to lay off its entire supercharger team. The supercharger network is a significant advantage for Tesla, and the hosts express their concerns about the future growth and maintenance of the network. They also touch upon the potential impact on other EV manufacturers that were planning to use the Tesla supercharger network.

10:02

📡 The Future of Meta's Horizon OS and VR Technology

The hosts talk about Meta's decision to license its Horizon OS to third parties, which could potentially lead to more widespread adoption of VR technology. They discuss the implications of this move for the metaverse and the possibility of a gaming-focused VR collaboration between Meta and Xbox.

15:02

🕶️ Experience with Meta Glasses and the Evolution of VR

The conversation includes a host's personal experience using Meta Glasses on vacation and the impressive first-person perspective they provide. They discuss the potential for using such devices in various scenarios and the continuous improvement of VR technology, including the recent update to the Quest 3 for viewing immersive panoramic images.

20:04

🎧 Review and Update on Rabbit R1 AI Device

The hosts share their updated thoughts on the Rabbit R1, an AI device that has received an OTA update to improve battery life and other functionalities. They discuss the device's bright orange color, the challenges of reviewing unfinished gadgets, and the improvements made by the update, including better standby battery life and a more responsive scroll wheel.

25:04

📱 The Dilemma of Smartphone-like AI Assistants

The discussion focuses on the question of why consumers would need a device like the Rabbit R1 when they already have smartphones. The hosts ponder the future of AI assistants and the potential for these devices to become more integrated into daily life, especially if they can offer unique benefits beyond what smartphones currently provide.

30:05

🎵 Headphone Roundup and Review

The hosts review various headphones and earbuds, discussing their experiences with different models, including the Nothing Ear (1), Bose earbuds with a clip-on design, Fairphone's repairable earbuds, and the Beats Solo 4. They cover aspects such as sound quality, comfort, design, and special features like wireless charging and noise cancellation.

35:05

🐦 Trivia Questions Involving Birds and Technology

The podcast concludes with a trivia segment where the hosts answer questions related to birds and technology. They discuss the scientific name of a bird and its common name, as well as a past controversy involving Microsoft and a bird-themed app that was featured in advertising but not yet available on Windows Phone 7.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡YouTube Shorts

YouTube Shorts is a feature on YouTube that allows creators to upload short-form vertical videos. In the script, there is a discussion about the current one-minute limit of YouTube Shorts and the potential for this limit to be extended, which is a topic of debate among the podcast hosts.

💡Bird Buddy App

The Bird Buddy App is a social media platform centered around birdwatching. It allows users to identify bird species through their feeders equipped with cameras. The app is mentioned in the script as a cool tool for bird enthusiasts, which can identify bird species and even record videos of them.

💡Nikon Sales

Nikon is a renowned camera manufacturer experiencing a surge in sales, partly due to the rising interest in birdwatching. The script discusses how the difficulty and appeal of photographing birds in flight have contributed to increased demand for Nikon's products.

💡Tesla Supercharger Network

The Tesla Supercharger Network is a system of electric vehicle charging stations designed for Tesla vehicles. The script mentions the surprising layoff of the entire supercharger team by Tesla, which could impact the growth and maintenance of this network, a previously significant advantage for Tesla in the EV market.

💡Meta Horizon OS

Meta Horizon OS is an operating system used by Meta (formerly Facebook) for its virtual reality products like the Quest headset. The script discusses Meta's decision to license the Horizon OS to third parties, which could potentially expand the reach and adoption of VR technology.

💡Rabbit R1

Rabbit R1 is an AI device with a unique design that includes a camera, speaker, and jog wheel. The script features a discussion on the device's functionality, its recent software update, and the debate over whether its capabilities could be replicated in a smartphone app.

💡Android Authority

Android Authority is a news and information source for Android users. In the script, it is mentioned in the context of an interview with a former developer who now freelances, highlighting the intersection of technology journalism and product development.

💡Twitter Thread

A Twitter thread is a series of connected tweets by a user, which allows for more extended discussions on the platform. The script references the idea of longer threads in the context of Twitter's evolving features and the user experience.

💡Instagram Reels

Instagram Reels is a feature on Instagram that allows users to create and share short, entertaining video clips. The script contrasts Reels with YouTube Shorts, discussing the user experience and content consumption habits on these platforms.

💡Bluetooth Headphones

The script includes a roundup of various Bluetooth headphones, discussing their features, sound quality, design, and user experience. This section covers different brands and models, reflecting the hosts' personal preferences and professional insights.

💡TikTok Algorithm

The TikTok algorithm is the system that curates and recommends content to TikTok users. The script mentions the algorithm in the context of a discussion on content discovery and the potential for longer-form content on short video platforms.

Highlights

Discussion on the limitations of YouTube Shorts being only one minute long and the desire for longer content.

Introduction of the Waveform podcast with hosts Marquez, Andrew, and David, covering a mix of tech stories.

Mention of the Bird app, a social media platform for bird watching, and its features like live video and species identification.

Debate on the importance of the Tesla Supercharger network and the surprising layoff of the team managing it.

Talk about the rising interest in birding and its impact on camera sales, particularly for Nikon.

Meta's decision to license the Horizon OS to third parties, potentially expanding the VR market.

Impressive battery life improvement in the Rabbit R1 device after an OTA update.

The Rabbit R1's scroll wheel acceleration improvement and the ongoing debate about its utility.

The revelation that the Rabbit OS can run on an Android phone, blurring the line between app and hardware.

Discussion on the future of AI assistants and the potential for them to become more integrated into our daily lives.

The challenge of reviewing unfinished gadgets and the ethical considerations of doing so.

Headphone roundup featuring Nothing Ear (1) and other new tech products.

Comparison of different earbuds, including Bose, Fairphone, and Beats, discussing their features and user experiences.

The significance of the 'X' in Xbox and its relation to DirectX, a collection of programming interfaces for multimedia, particularly gaming.

Trivia question about a bird-themed app falsely advertised as being available for Windows Phone 7 by Microsoft.

Humorously discussing the hatred towards pigeons while morning doves are favored, despite being the same species.

The importance of wireless charging for earbuds and how it affects user convenience.

Transcripts

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are we gonna not talk about the YouTube

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thing or I think I'll just that's just

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like a question like last night I was

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talking to Claire and I was like how is

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shorts still only one minute cuz I was

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trying to write my nothing short then it

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would be

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long okay this just proves that this

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could be a fun conversation but I think

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we just do the headphone round up this

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week and then next J right now wait I

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don't get it what why would YouTube

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shorts ever be longer cuz they're

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vertical

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[Music]

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yo what is up people of the internet

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welcome back to another episode of the

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waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm

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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and uh

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today we got a mix of stories it's kind

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of a it's one of those weeks where a

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bunch of little stuff well a bunch of

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mediumsized stuff happened medium all

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over the place stuff yeah a bunch of

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very unrelated the the tangents this

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week are going to be off the chain

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medium rare week yeah from any anywhere

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from uh the R1 reviews being out uh

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sorry I just processed your joke solid

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um Tesla cutting their supercharger team

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out of nowhere uh we got some headphones

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to talk about it's a good time I can't

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wait to hear the Segways this week yeah

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it's G to be fun speaking of Segways but

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first what do you

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[Laughter]

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remember do you remember that Bird app

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social media we were talking about

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Twitter a while

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ago this the other one the better one

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bird bir buddy bird buddy they sent us

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one and I installed it do you have Birds

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I got Birds boy do you have a oh that

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one's cool do you have like a cool

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variety of birds or something I've only

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had they so it's really cool so these

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are birds that are in my front yard you

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see that beak it says the name of the

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bird if a new species comes up like if I

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go back when these were new oh this blue

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jay is awesome and you get video of them

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too eating the seeds that's just a blue

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jay's tail feather

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um yeah it's pretty awesome and it's

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just like social media with birds yeah

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and I can share this to everybody I can

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pick which postcards I want to post

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awesome Cardinals uh house finch the

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craziest one so far yeah those are the

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only three I've gotten so far but lots

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of them and this blue jay picture is

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awesome that's pretty hard just eating

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the seed album cover album cover new

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waveform thumbnail have you got in

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anything that's not a bird yet not yet

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okay a squirrel it was funny in said it

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would take a couple weeks before they

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might trust the bird feeder but they

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were there like day two tell Tim to uh

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put that blue J in the thumbnail in the

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thumbnail just just behind one of our

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heads like it's one of the other hosts

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no one's going to know why that would be

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awesome but yeah this app's pretty

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awesome the bird feeder is pretty cool

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it's a little pricey but do you get a

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notification every time a bird shows up

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you can change how you want it so mine

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is if it's like Just Happening it'll be

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like quick you can watch this bird live

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and then at the end of the day it'll be

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like you had x amount of birds show up

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and these many different species and

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then you can do a recap of all the ones

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that came how's the solar roof do you

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have to recharge it I have not had to

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recharge it yet my only gripe right now

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is I think I need to move it closer to

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my house because the Wi-Fi connection

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seems like it's going out a little which

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isn't that's fault and 4K or 1080p

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footage is locked behind a bird Buddy

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Pro account oh which wait they only give

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you 4K upell 720 I think it's 720 it's

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pretty solid and I guess you're just

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looking up birds so maybe I don't need

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high res of you need 1080 you need 1080

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4K baby what are you talking about how

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much do you have toay how much is it I

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don't know I don't feel like paying for

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yeah I wouldn't either that's fair but

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there's some people out there who might

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appar think I can also send all of you

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guys links to like join and watch this

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bird feeder if you want the fact that

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you haven't done that already I did and

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nobody listened in slack you did where

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send it vacation I'll send it again but

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I'm pretty sure I send an invite code to

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everyone in slack you can only have two

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people so we'll just have to do so it's

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the going to be the first two we'll have

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to do like just a a bird iPad in this

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office for anyone who wants to watch

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such a good idea big brain it's like the

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the emulating the pom Prix but yeah

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putting a did it pick me up mowing the

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lawn the other day Lon I don't think I

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don't think it'll grab people but

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squirrels though and then it'll say bird

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type squirrel I can't wait for that to

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happen nice yeah that's the bird Buddy

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app fun that's fun speaking of birds

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really quick I was doing some research

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on Nikon because we were talking about

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them a lot recently turns out they've

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been kind of blowing up in the last

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couple of years like their sales have

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gone way up and remember that thought

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keep going okay and a big reason is

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because people are getting really into

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birding right now yeah yeah cuz it's

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awesome I love that for Humanity yeah

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and I was talking to someone and they

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were like yeah people are probably

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getting into birding cuz it's like the

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last thing that's kind of hard to shoot

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cuz Birds move really fast and you have

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to like get the midair and like it's

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very it's pretty difficult to Wildlife

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photography is fun and super difficult

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especially like when you're used to

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taking video and portraits like in a

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controlled space and then you get zero

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control over it you're like it's like

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sports photography but smaller subjects

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yeah and in Sports Photography they're

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running in a circle over and over again

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can find rectangle yeah yeah that's fair

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yeah with like Wildlife you're like can

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you go a little closer to that tree like

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my framing is just not like set up here

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and look at me but don't eat me but yeah

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right exactly wait what what did I hold

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the thought about with Nikon so you said

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they it's been blowing up recently

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speaking of blowing up I knew where that

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was nice um Tesla laid off they just

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blew up their entire supercharger team

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it's just gone yeah specifically it

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seems like Elon just did it one day wait

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they shut down the supercharges no no

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they laid off the entire supercharger

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team now for those unfamiliar Tesla

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superchargers pretty important part of

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Tesla right um for when we talk about

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electric cars almost every time we talk

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about Tesla's Advantage we talk about

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the supercharger Network which is if you

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need to charge this car on a road trip

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somewhere the only reliable consistently

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reliable way to do that from our own

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experience for years has been the

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supercharger Network to the point where

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one by one over the past few months

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basically every EV maker that ships cars

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to America is going to be switching

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their port or shipping adapters to the

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nacs port to to use Tesla Supercharger

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Network because it's such a big selling

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point here so all that being said Tesla

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very suddenly laying off the entire

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supercharger team which includes all the

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permitting all of the site maintenance

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all of the uh future planning and

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basically just shutting down growth of

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the supercharge Network like nipping it

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right on on that day over 500 people

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yeah seems like a pretty bold move yeah

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um I think everyone sort of assumes that

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it's for cost cutting and you know Tesla

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stock price is doing one thing and we

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want their you know profits to do the

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other thing and so you know there's a

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lot going on and pretty crazy ruthless

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business decisions get made by this guy

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all the time so yeah the supercharger

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team is the latest victim completely

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gone on uh I don't know how do we feel

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like this is going to go yeah it's kind

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of wild because like you said everyone

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is moving to nacs and that layoff

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included Rebecca tanushi who was the

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senior director of EV charging and was

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the person that pretty much like handled

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all of the deals convincing all of the

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other companies to switch to nacs yeah

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so they kind of finished doing that and

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then now the entire team is gone and

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there were a bunch of employees that

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literally said they were breaking ground

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on new

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and then they just got the news and all

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of a sudden they just have to stop yeah

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so it seems like at some point we're

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going to feel the effects of it and I

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think it would be well okay so there was

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an Elon tweet about how oh we're

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stopping growth and we're focusing on

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just maintenance and uptime yeahor I was

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just going to say like that my initial

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thought on this and I don't follow stock

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prices I don't know anything about

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business but like when I first saw this

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it felt like oh we built this crazy

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supercharging system everybody loves it

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it's the most reliable

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everybody's going to it now thanks for

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building it later like it's easier to

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maintain something that you built

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already instead of building it but it

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seems like there's more of it yeah well

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except for the fact that the amount of

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cars using it is about to like

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5x yes I'm not saying it's a good

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decision but my first thought was like

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it feels like they did it all and I feel

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like we see that in Tech a lot it's like

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oh thanks for building this awesome

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software something like that inter good

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luck building something some else we

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what we need now the Peace of Mind

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knowing that you're always going to have

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a supercharger nearby is so important to

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like ownership of an EV yeah s to

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interrupt there's a lot of upcoming

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locations on the map where people are

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like I can't wait for that one cuz then

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I can finally do this route I can

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finally do this drive now it looks like

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those aren't going to happen uhhuh so

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yeah that's that's a bummer for those

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yeah he tweeted Tesla still plans to

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grow the supercharger Network just at a

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slower pace for new locations and more

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focus on 100% uptime And expansion of

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existing locations so I don't know if

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that means just adding more stalls to

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existing

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locations um the uptime is already

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pretty dang good like they've had very

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good uptime historically yeah I could

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see focusing on uptime like you said if

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it's going to be so many more people

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maybe there's higher opportunity of the

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uptime not being as good yeah and focus

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on that but even if that is the focus

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firing 500 people yeah and slowing the

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growth of the network cuz no matter how

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good the network is if we're talking

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about gas cars the network looks like

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crap yeah that's that's the two sides of

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that car is like when you compare the

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Tesla superer Network to gas cars it

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seems like they need they have a lot of

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growth to do but on the other side when

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you compare the supercharge Network to

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everyone else no longer needing to build

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up their Network because they all just

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signed on to do nacs it's like yeah we

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won no one else is going to come close

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to the Tesla super Jer network no need

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to build it up anymore yeah it it feels

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like when we're talking about like even

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just Tesla or rivan in vehicle software

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you're like like this is the best in

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vehicle software of any car and you're

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like how is it to an iPad it's like well

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it's terrible yeah so like yeah there's

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still so much room for growth here did

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you guys read that story a couple weeks

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ago about the I think it was an F-150

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Lightning or no it was a rivan owner

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that charged his car at a supercharger

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and it was like right after he got his

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adapter and he had a Tesla owner like

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call the cops on him because he was like

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it is illegal for you to do this you can

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be doing this and he's like bro no they

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opened it up and he's like no this is

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only for Tesla users yeah little culty

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little weird okay yeah the problem is

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the signs still say Tesla charging only

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that's true oh do they I've never not

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all the signs at supercharger have a big

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T and it says Tesla Supercharger

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supercharging only which they obviously

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mean just because don't park here and

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take up a spot but previously it was

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only Teslas that's very funny yeah I

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it's also hilarious that person called

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the cops

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the biggest overreaction ever oh yeah

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yeah did you also see rivan has decided

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to open up their their Adventure Network

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to all EVS all five of them yeah

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everyone so I mean they don't have a ton

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of chargers obviously but they do plan

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on switching to and updating with necs

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and allowing everyone to charge on their

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Adventure Network as well well maybe

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half of these Engineers will go to rivan

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and start expanding the rivan if charge

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I wonder how much capital and how big of

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a head start Tesla's network has over a

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realistic competitor to like make a

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difference I feel like an insane amount

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like even if you start building a

12:03

secondary nacs Network today I guess you

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don't have to start you could just be

12:07

electri America and just start like

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switching them all to nacs and building

12:11

a ton more could that realistically be

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the like standard of up time someday I

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don't know no seems despite the Head

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Start if there were ever a time to want

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to try and chip away at that Head Start

12:24

it's when they fire 500 people who built

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that Head Start so who knows yeah all

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right I'm working on a hold on too late

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wait you don't have a you're working on

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a segue yeah oh but this is a tough I've

12:37

got one this is a you do you have one

12:39

I'm willing to hear it speaking of what

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could be happening on the horizon with

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things like the Tesla Supercharger

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network but also Meta Meta just start

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started licensing The Horizon OS that it

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uses on its Quest To Third parties ah

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yeah yeah they did I find really funny

12:59

because I don't know if you guys

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remember back when Microsoft was trying

13:03

to make Windows AR headsets and they

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they like open sourced it so like Dell

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made a headset it was mixed reality it

13:10

was Windows mixed reality Dell made a

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headset uh Lenovo made a headset isus

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made a headset it was like

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2016 or

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2017 um when the quest was first

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starting to like take off like Oculus

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connect one or two so Windows was like

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we got to get in on this and they made

13:30

like paint 3D and all of these 3D

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applications that sounds awesome I mean

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it was pretty Co 3D yeah bro so they

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basically just like wanted you to be

13:40

able to use Windows in mixed reality and

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so all of these third parties made a

13:44

bunch of Hardware to be able to use with

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it nobody bought it and then Microsoft

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didn't support it they didn't keep it up

13:52

like at all they just didn't keep

13:54

updating it at all they eventually just

13:55

gave up and this is kind of the Playbook

13:57

it seems like very Google of them yeah

13:59

except like Google at least makes like

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the underlying stuff sometimes Microsoft

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basically didn't sell Hollow lens to

14:06

regular people so they didn't have a

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first-party headset so they just relied

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on third parties to make the headsets

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that would work with Windows mixed

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reality and now meta decided that it's

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going to license Horizon OS so now if

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you're Lenovo or Dell or Asus you can

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just build basically a quest for but

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running your own

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Hardware um Vision Pro yeah they want to

14:34

be they want to be Android right they're

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all meta is now all about open source

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and they're all about like I guess we

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can't build the metaverse by ourselves

14:43

and all this stuff um they're also

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making a limited run gaming focused

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quest with Xbox just for Xbox that makes

14:52

a ton of it's they're they're trying to

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I I see what that's going to be

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PlayStation has PlayStation VR and and

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like it's not the most popular but like

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Xbox is going to want to do that

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eventually why wouldn't meta be the one