Hallie Jackson NOW - May 6 | NBC News NOW

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6 May 202498:52

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses several pressing matters, starting with the ongoing trial of Donald Trump, highlighting the judge's warning about potential jail time for contempt of court if Trump violates a gag order. It shifts to cover international relations with a focus on the Middle East, detailing Israel's military actions in Gaza and the delicate ceasefire negotiations involving Hamas. The script also touches on severe weather warnings in the central U.S., with millions under the threat of powerful tornadoes following recent deadly flooding in Texas. Additionally, it addresses an incident involving an American soldier detained in Russia and provides updates on a former Starbucks CEO's critique of the company's current direction. The summary also mentions a safety inspection issue with Boeing's 787 Dreamliner planes just before a crucial launch attempt of the Starliner spacecraft, emphasizing the high stakes for the company.

Takeaways

  • 📰 The news report covers various topics including the trial of Donald Trump, Middle East conflict updates, tornado warnings in the U.S., and other significant events.
  • 🚨 Donald Trump is on trial and the court is focusing on the alleged hush money scheme; the former president has been warned of jail time if he violates a gag order.
  • 🤦‍♂️ Trump's response to the potential jail time indicates he is willing to make sacrifices for what he believes are more important matters than jail.
  • 🌍 The Middle East conflict continues with Israel conducting new strikes in Rafah while considering a ceasefire deal proposed by Hamas.
  • 🌪 Tornado warnings have been issued for parts of the U.S., with millions under the highest level of risk, indicating a severe weather threat.
  • 🚨 An American soldier has been detained in Russia on accusations of theft during an unauthorized visit to see a romantic interest.
  • 🛑 A moment of crisis in a church service when a man pulled a gun on the pastor was averted by a deacon who tackled the assailant.
  • 🚀 Boeing is facing a high-stakes test with the launch of its Starliner spacecraft, which aims to carry astronauts to the International Space Station.
  • ☕ Starbucks is facing criticism from its former CEO, Howard Schultz, who has called for a return to basics and an improved customer experience.
  • 📈 There's been a recall of Planters nuts due to potential Listeria contamination, and a new Equinox gym membership program is being offered aimed at longevity.
  • 🎤 An indie artist has released the first AI-generated music video, showcasing the growing capabilities of AI in creative fields.

Q & A

  • What was the main focus of the discussion regarding Donald Trump's trial?

    -The main focus of the discussion was on the testimony pushing into the details of the alleged hush money scheme, the warning from the judge about potential jail time for Trump if he violates the gag order, and the shift in the trial from lurid stories to more technical accounting evidence.

  • What did Donald Trump say in response to the judge's warning about the gag order?

    -Donald Trump stated that the Constitution is much more important than jail and that he would make the sacrifice and take the risk of going to jail over violating the gag order.

  • What was significant about the Sharpie mentioned during the trial?

    -The Sharpie is significant because it is the pen Donald Trump uses to sign his checks, which is a key piece of evidence in the case regarding the payments made to Michael Cohen.

  • Why is the judge considering imposing a gag order on Donald Trump?

    -The judge is considering imposing a gag order to prevent witness intimidation and to protect the integrity of the jury, as there are concerns that further violations could taint the jury.

  • What was the role of the two new witnesses that testified?

    -The two new witnesses, who are in charge of keeping the books for the Trump Organization, testified about the process of reimbursing Michael Cohen to the tune of $130,000 and Trump's participation in that process.

  • What is the current status of the American soldier detained in Russia?

    -The American soldier, Staff Sergeant Gordon Black, is currently in pretrial confinement in Russia after being accused of theft during an unauthorized visit to the country.

  • What is the context behind the potential jail time for Donald Trump mentioned in the trial?

    -The potential jail time for Donald Trump is mentioned in the context of him violating a partial gag order imposed by the judge, which is meant to prevent him from influencing the trial through public comments.

  • What is the general public's perception of the trial's shift from sensational stories to more technical accounting details?

    -While the public may perceive the shift as less exciting, it is considered more critical and important to the case, as it deals with the actual evidence and testimonies that can directly impact the jury's decision.

  • What is the significance of the checks in question in the trial?

    -The checks in question are significant because they are allegedly used to reimburse Michael Cohen for a retainer, which the prosecution claims never existed, and are central to the charges of falsifying business records against Trump.

  • How did the judge express his reluctance to impose a gag order on Donald Trump?

    -The judge expressed his reluctance by stating directly to Trump that the last thing he wanted to do was put a former and potentially future president in jail, but he would do so if necessary to maintain the integrity of the trial.

  • What is the current stance of the U.S. towards the conflict between Israel and Hamas?

    -The U.S. has been cautious in its statements, emphasizing the sensitivity of the situation. It has been engaging with Middle Eastern leaders about the proposed ceasefire and has reportedly paused a weapons shipment to Israel, although it denies this is indicative of any policy change.

Outlines

00:00

😀 Trump's Defiance of Gag Order and Potential Jail Time

The paragraph discusses Donald Trump's trial, focusing on the judge's warning about the consequences of violating a gag order. Trump's response suggests that he values the constitution over jail, indicating a willingness to make a sacrifice for his right to speak freely. The summary also covers the testimony related to the reimbursement process involving Michael Cohen and the alleged hush money paid to two women claiming to have had affairs with Trump.

05:04

📚 Prosecution's Documentation and Trump's Signature

This section delves into the prosecution's meticulous presentation of evidence, including invoices, checks, and ledgers, to outline the financial transactions that form the basis of the case against Donald Trump. The discussion also touches on the significance of Trump's signature on checks over $10,000, suggesting direct involvement in the transactions, despite claims of lack of knowledge or involvement.

10:07

🚫 Judge's Struggle with Enforcing Gag Order on Trump

The paragraph highlights the judge's reluctance to imprison a former president and the complexities involved in such a decision. It also discusses Trump's recent adherence to the gag order and the judge's warning of potential jail time for future violations. The summary touches on the logistical challenges and the seriousness of the situation, emphasizing the judge's intention to enforce the law if necessary.

15:07

🤔 The Significance of Michael Cohen's Testimony

This part of the script focuses on the importance of Michael Cohen's upcoming testimony and the impact it could have on the case. Cohen, who made payments on behalf of Trump, is a key witness whose credibility is crucial for the prosecution. The summary also mentions the potential testimony of Stormy Daniels and the political implications of the trial on Trump's supporters and the public's perception.

20:09

🔍 The Biden Campaign's Outreach and Trump's Influence

The paragraph discusses the Biden campaign's efforts to reach out to Republicans who disagree with Trump, and the challenges faced by those Republicans due to Trump's enduring influence within the party. It also explores the potential impact of the trial on Trump's political future and the loyalty of his base despite the legal troubles.

25:10

🌪️ Tornado Warnings and Middle East Conflicts

This section provides an update on severe weather warnings across the central U.S., highlighting the risk of powerful tornadoes and the potential for significant damage. Additionally, it covers ongoing strikes in the Middle East, focusing on Israel's military operations and the consideration of a ceasefire deal amidst the conflict.

30:10

🛰️ Boeing's Starliner Spacecraft Launch

The paragraph discusses Boeing's upcoming launch of the Starliner spacecraft to the International Space Station. It emphasizes the high stakes for Boeing, which has faced safety concerns and delays in the past. The launch is seen as a critical moment for the company to demonstrate its capabilities and regain trust in the wake of recent challenges.

35:12

☕️ Starbucks' Customer Experience Critique

This section covers Howard Schultz's open letter criticizing the current state of Starbucks, suggesting the company needs to refocus on providing good coffee and service. The summary touches on the financial impact of these criticisms, with Starbucks' stock price falling significantly. It also discusses the potential reasons behind the drop in casual customer visits and the company's strategy to win them back.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Gag Order

A gag order is a legal restraint on the press or individuals involved in a case, preventing them from discussing details publicly. In the video, it is mentioned that the judge has issued a partial gag order to Donald Trump, warning him of potential jail time if he violates it, which is a significant aspect of the legal proceedings discussed.

💡Trump Organization

The Trump Organization is the collective name for the numerous businesses owned by former President Donald Trump. In the context of the video, it is central to the case as the organization's financial dealings and record-keeping practices are under scrutiny in the trial.

💡Hush Money

Hush money refers to payments made to individuals to prevent them from revealing potentially damaging information. The video discusses the alleged hush money paid to two women who claimed to have had affairs with Donald Trump, which is a key element of the criminal case presented.

💡Falsifying Business Records

Falsifying business records involves making false entries or omitting information in official documents related to business transactions. The video mentions that the trial involves 35 counts of this offense, which is tied to the reimbursement process of payments made to silence certain individuals.

💡Judge Merchan

Judge Merchan is the presiding judge in the trial of Donald Trump. He is significant as he has the authority to enforce a gag order and has warned Trump of potential jail time for violations, which is a critical plot point in the narrative of the video.

💡Michael Cohen

Michael Cohen is a former attorney for Donald Trump who played a role in the alleged hush money payments. His testimony and the reimbursement process he was involved in are highlighted in the video as key components of the prosecution's case.

💡Prosecution

The prosecution refers to the legal team representing the government in a criminal case. In the video, the prosecution is laying out the case against Donald Trump, presenting evidence and witnesses to build their argument, which is central to the unfolding events.

💡Jury

A jury is a group of individuals sworn to render a verdict in a trial based on the evidence presented. The video mentions the jury seeing the checks in question for the first time, which underscores the importance of their role in evaluating the evidence in the trial.

💡Ceasefire

A ceasefire is an agreement to stop fighting, typically in a war or conflict. The video discusses a potential ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, which is a significant development in the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

💡Hostages

Hostages are individuals who are held captive by an armed group or enemy forces. The video refers to Israeli hostages in Gaza, and the potential release of these hostages is a point of negotiation in the proposed ceasefire agreement.

💡Middle East Conflict

The Middle East conflict generally refers to the ongoing political and military disputes in the region, particularly between Israel and Palestine. The video provides an update on the conflict, focusing on the recent strikes in Gaza and the discussions around a ceasefire.

💡Tornado Warning

A tornado warning is a weather alert issued when a tornado has been sighted or indicated by weather radar. The video covers a high-risk tornado warning for parts of the central U.S., which is a critical weather event impacting the region.

💡Starbucks

Starbucks is a multinational coffee company and coffeehouse chain. The video discusses the company's current challenges, including a critique from its former CEO Howard Schultz about the need to focus on customer experience and the quality of products.

Highlights

Donald Trump's trial continues with a focus on the alleged hush money scheme, involving payments to keep two women quiet about alleged affairs.

Judge Merchan issues a stark warning to Trump that violating the gag order could result in jail time, despite his reluctance to incarcerate a former president.

Trump responds to the judge's warning, suggesting that he values the Constitution over jail and is willing to make a sacrifice.

The prosecution presents evidence, including checks, to show Trump's involvement in reimbursing Michael Cohen for payments made to Stormy Daniels.

Witnesses from Trump's organization testify about the process of reimbursement and the absence of a retainer agreement, contradicting Trump's defense.

The trial shifts from sensational testimonies to a meticulous examination of financial records and business transactions.

Legal analysts emphasize the importance of the prosecution's detailed accounting in establishing a case for falsifying business records.

The judge's threat of jail time for Trump looms large, with discussions on the precedent it could set and the complications of imprisoning a former president.

Trump's attorneys may be advising him to be cautious with his public statements to avoid further legal repercussions.

The prosecution anticipates concluding their case in two weeks, after which the defense will have the opportunity to present their case.

The significance of Michael Cohen's potential testimony and its impact on the jury's perception of Trump's involvement is discussed.

The political implications of the trial on Trump's potential future presidency and the reactions of his supporters are considered.

The Biden administration's response to the Middle East conflict and its role in ceasefire negotiations are examined.

The severe weather warnings in the central U.S., with a high risk of powerful tornadoes, lead to a significant weather event.

The impact of the recent flooding in Texas and the ongoing recovery efforts are discussed, highlighting the challenges faced by affected communities.

An American soldier's detention in Russia raises concerns, with details of his arrest and the U.S. State Department's response provided.

The incident in a church where a man with a gun was stopped by a deacon is recounted, emphasizing the quick actions that prevented tragedy.

Transcripts

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TOMORROW WE WILL BE BACK WITH

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MORE "MEET THE PRESS NOW."

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THE NEWS CONTINUES WITH HALLIE

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JACKSON NOW.

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>>> I'M HALLIE JACKSON WITH A

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BREAKING NEWS SPECIAL REPORT.

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DONALD TRUMP ON TRIAL WITH

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COURT JUST WRAPPING UP IN THE

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LAST HOUR.

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TESTIMONY PUSHING US INTO THE

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NITTY GRIDE OF THE SUIT AT THE

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CENTER OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN

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COURT.

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THE HEADLINE OR SHADOW LOOMING

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OVER MR. TRUMP NOW AND THE

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THING THAT WE HEARD HIM TALK

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ABOUT IN THE HALLWAY, THE

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WARNING FROM THE JUDGE THAT THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT, SOMEBODY THAT

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CAN MAYBE BE THE FUTURE ONE,

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COULD END UP IN A JAIL CELL IF

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HE IS NOT MORE CAREFUL ON WHAT

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HE SAYS.

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WE HEARD TRUMP SOUNDING MORE

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OPEN TO THE IDEA, PERHAPS, OF

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BEING BEHIND BARS THAN THE IDEA

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OF HOLDING HIS TONGUE.

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LISTEN TO THIS.

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>> THIS JUDGE IS GIVING ME A

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GAG ORDER AND SAID YOU WILL GO

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TO JAIL IF YOU VIOLATE IT.

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AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW WHAT?

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OUR CONSTITUTION IS MUCH MORE

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IMPORTANT THAN JAIL.

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IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

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I WILL DO THAT SACRIFICE AND

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DAY.

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>> SO THAT IS MR. TRUMP THERE

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AFTER THE JUDGE, JUDGE MERCHAN

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SEEMED AT THE END OF THE ROPE.

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THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO

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DO IS PUT YOU IN JAIL.

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YOU ARE THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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BUT HE WILL IF NECESSARY.

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THAT WAS THE RARE FIREWORK IN A

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DAY THAT HONESTLY CONSISTED

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MOSTLY OF WHAT YOU COULD CALL

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NECESSARY SLOGGING.

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TWO NEW WITNESSES, CAREFULLY

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LAYING OUT THE PAINSTAKING

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PROCESS OF REIMBURSING MICHAEL

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COHEN TO THE TUNE OF $130,000

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AND TRUMP'S PARTICIPATION THAT

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WAS PAID TO KEEP TWO WOMEN

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QUIET, TWO WOMEN WHO CLAIM TO

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HAVE AFFAIRS WITH TRUMP,

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AFFAIRS THAT HE DENIES.

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TODAY THE JURY GOT THE FIRST

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LOOK AT THE CHECKS IN QUESTION

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ALLEGEDLY USED TO REIMBURSE

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COHEN FOR A RETAINER.

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THAT IS WHY THIS TRIAL IS

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HAPPENING AND PLEADING NOT

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GUILTY TO 35 COUNTS OF

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FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS.

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WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS RECORDS

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PORTION OF THE WHOLE THING.

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FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES, RIGHT

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HERE, WE WILL EXPLAIN WHY ALL

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THAT YOU JUST HEARD MATTERS SO

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IF YOU WERE NOT GLUED TO EVERY

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NOTE, EVERY WORD COMING OUT OF

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COURT.

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IF YOU HAD OTHER THINGS TO DO,

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WE DIDN'T, THIS REPORT IS ALL

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YOU NEED WITH OUR TEAM OF

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REPORTERS, ANALYSTS READY TO

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BREAK DOWN EVERYTHING YOU NEED

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TO KNOW IN THIS SPECIAL LOOK

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INSIDE OF THE TRUMP TRIAL.

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I WANT TO START WITH YASMINE

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OUTSIDE IN COURT.

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A COUPLE BUCKETS HERE TODAY.

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LET'S START WITH THE PARTIAL

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GAG ORDER AND THE THREAT, THE

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WARNING FROM THE JUDGE THAT HE

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FACES MORE CONSEQUENCES IN HE

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KEEPS VIOLATING IT.

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TALK US THROUGH IT.

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>> Reporter: THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT SAYING THIS JUDGE IS

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OUT TO GET HIM, THAT HE HAS A

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GAG ORDER ON HIM, HE CAN NOT

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SAY THINGS, HE WANTS TO DEFEND

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HIMSELF PUBLICLY, HE IS BEING

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ATTACKED, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

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THE SAME THING -- WE HAVE BEEN

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HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT.

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BUT THE MOMENT OF SOME OF WHAT

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YOU JUST READ BETWEEN THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT ALONG WITH HIS

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ATTORNEYS AND THE JUDGE SITTING

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ON THAT STAND AND TALKING ABOUT

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THE VIOLATIONS OF THE GAG

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ORDERS, NOW THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT OWING AN ADDITIONAL

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$1,000, SAYING 99% OF THE JURY

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IS DEMOCRATS.

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HE SAID HE DID NOT WANT TO DO

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IT, THE LAST THING HE WANTED TO

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DO.

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THIS IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF

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THE UNITED STATES, POSSIBLY THE

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NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES, THERE ARE SO MANY

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COMPLICATIONS IN THEY DECIDE TO

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IMPRISON A FORMER PRESIDENT OF

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THE UNITED STATES.

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SECRET SERVICE BEING ONE OF

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THEM.

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AT ONE POINT HE GOES ON AS WELL

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AND I WANT TO READ THIS IF I

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CAN.

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IT IS APPARENT MONETARY FINES

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WILL NOT DO SO IF APPROPRIATE

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AND WARRANTED FUTURE VIOLATIONS

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AND LAWFUL ORDERS WILL BE

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PUNISHABLE BY INCARCERATION, IT

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SEEMS AT THIS POINT THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT, HIS ATTORNEYS, THEY

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HAVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE.

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I SAY THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT

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HAPPENED AT THE END OF LAST

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WEEK.

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ONE OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S

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ATTORNEY SAYING HE WOULD LIKE

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TO POST OR REPOST SOMETHING PUT

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OUT THERE BY A LEGAL ANALYST TO

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DEFEND HIMSELF, CAN HE DO THIS?

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THE JUDGE SAID IF YOU FEEL LIKE

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IT IS A BAD IDEA YOUR INSTINCT

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IS PROBABLY RIGHT, DON'T POST

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IT.

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I AM NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF

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WHAT YOU CAN AND NOT POST.

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WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS GOING

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TO CONTINUE TO VIOLATE THE GAG

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ORDERS OR NOT.

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ONE OTHER THING, HAL, WE DON'T

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WANT TO HAVE TO PUT YOU IN JAIL

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THAT WILL DELAY THE TRIAL.

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THEY DON'T WANT HIM TO GO TO

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JAIL HERE.

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>> YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHAT THE

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ATTORNEYS ARE TELLING HIM.

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WE WILL GET TO THAT IN JUST A

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BIT.

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LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT A BIT OF

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THE REALISTIC SLOG IN COURT

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TODAY.

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NECESSARIARY FOR THE

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PROSECUTORS.

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WE MOVED AWAY FROM THE LURED

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STORIES INVOLVING THE ALLEGED

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SEX SCANDALS NOW WE ARE IN LIKE

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THE CROSSING OF THE T'S AND

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DOTTING OF THE EYES, LAY OUT THE GROUNDWORK THAT THEY FEEL

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THE GROUNDWORK THAT THEY FEEL

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LIKE THEY HAVE TO PUT IN FRONT

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OF THE JURY RIGHT NOW.

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>> Reporter: IT WAS THE SLOG T.

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SEEMS LIKE IT IS THE

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DOCUMENTATION.

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WE SAW ALL 34 COUNTS IN

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EVIDENCE.

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INVOICES, CHECKS, LEGGERS, WE

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SAW IT ALL LAID OUT, PAINTING

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THE PICTURE OF $35,000 A MONTH

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PAID TO MICHAEL COHEN, LAYING

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OUT.

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HOW IT IS THEY WERE ABLE TO PAY

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IT OFF UP TO $420,000.

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THE TOTAL PAYOUT, SPLIT OUT

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BETWEEN $130,000 THAT WENT TO

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DAVIDSON, STORMY DANIELS

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ATTORNEY, $50,000 TO A TECH

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FILM, $60,000 IN BONUSES TO

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MICHAEL COHEN AND THE REST

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PAYING OFF MICHAEL COHEN FOR

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TAXES, DOUBLING THAT $180,000.

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AS YOU SAID IT WAS A SLOG OF A

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DAY.

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BUT IMPORTANT TO THE

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PROSECUTION'S CASE TODAY.

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>> LET'S PICK IT UP, THANK YOU

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VERY MUCH, LIVE FOR NUS

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DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN.

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LET'S PICK IT UP WITH OUR LEGAL

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ANALYSTS, A FORMER MANHATTAN

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DA.

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TO YOU, FIRST, HERE, TO HER

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POINT THE PROSECUTION FEELS THEY HAVE TO LAY IT OUT.

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DID THEY ACCOMPLISH IT?

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DID THEY ACCOMPLISH IT?

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>> THEY ACCOMPLISHED IT.

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LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SLOG.

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THAT IS THE CASE.

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THOSE ARE THE 34 COUNTS.

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WE CAN TALK ABOUT PORN STARS

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AND ELECTION FRAUD AND PLAYBOY

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MODELS BUT THIS IS A FALSIFYING

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BUSINESS CASE.

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EACH ONE OF THE INVOICES,

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CHECKS, LEGGER ENTRIES ARE THE

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CRIMES IN THIS CASE.

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AND, THE PROSECUTION HAS TO

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PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

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THAT DONALD TRUMP MADE OR

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CAUSED TO BE MADE A FALSE ENTRY

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IN HIS BUSINESS RECORDS OF HIS

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COMPANY AND IT WAS DONE WITH

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THE INTENT TO DEFRAUD,

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INCLUDING AN INTENT TO COMMIT

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OR CONCEAL ANOTHER CRIME.

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SO IT IS BORING, TEDIOUS BUT IT

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WAS IMPORTANT TESTIMONY TODAY.

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AND ALSO THESE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE

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PERSON AND THE CONTROLLER, THEY

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WERE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY

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WENT THROUGH THE ACCOUNTING

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PROCEDURES OF THE TRUMP

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ORGANIZATION.

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THEY WERE VERY IMPORTANT

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WITNESSES.

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>> DEBRA, SHE IS AN EMPLOYEE IN

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THE ACCOUNTING ORGANIZATION, WE

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GOT INTO SOME OF THE, QUOTE

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UNQUOTE RECEIPTS, SOME OF THE

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DOCUMENTATION, SHE SAID THAT IT

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WAS ONLY THE FORMER PRESIDENT,

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IT WAS ONLY DONALD TRUMP WHO

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SIGNED ANY TRUMPS IT WAS ONLY

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HIM.

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IF HE SAYS HE DID NOT KNOW OR

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WAS NOT INVOLVED DOES IT MATTER

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THAT IT IS HIS SIGNATURE THERE?

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>> IT DOES MATTER.

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NOT CONCLUSIVE PROOF BUT IT IS

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SIGNIFICANT.

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NUMBER ONE NOT JUST HIS

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SIGNATURE IS ON THERE, A LOT OF

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BUSINESSMEN, BOSSES, SIGN

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CHECKS ON MASS WHEN THEY ARE

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HANDED THEM AND MAY NOT PAY ALLOT OF ATTENTION, THAT IS WHY

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ALLOT OF ATTENTION, THAT IS WHY

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YOU SAW TESTIMONY FOR ANYTHING

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OVER $10,000 HAD TO BE

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PERSONALLY APPROVED.

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IS IT PROOF?

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NO, THEY CAN ARGUE SAYING LOOK

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JUST BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING

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STUFF SENT TO HIM AT THE WHITE

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HOUSE AND HE IS SIGNING IT,

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DOES NOT MEAN HE IS NEGOTIATING

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OR LOOKING AT THE BILLS.

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IF HE IS GETTING IT FEDEX AND

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SIGNING IT TO HIM HE DOES NOT

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HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO

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ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST SIGN

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IT WITH HIS BIG SHARPIE AND

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SEND IT BACK.

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BUT, THE PROSECUTION.

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>> WELL, THE SHARPIE, DANNY, IF

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THERE WAS PERHAPS A STAR OF THE

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COURT PROCEEDINGS IT MAY HAVE

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BEEN THAT SHARPIE, CATHERINE?

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[ LAUGHTER ]

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>> YES, I THINK IT WAS MRS.

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TARASOFF SHE RECOGNIZED THE

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SIGNATURE BECAUSE IT WAS A

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BLACK SHARPIE, THAT IS HOW HE

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DID IT.

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THE CASE IS NOT OVER, IT HAS

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NOT BEEN PROCH BECAUSE NEITHER

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WITNESS SAID N FACT ONE OF THEM

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SAID DONALD TRUMP DID NOT

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DIRECT HIM TO DO ANYTHING.

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SO, NEITHER WITNESS PLACED

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TRUMP AT THE SCENE OF THE

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ACTION SO TO SPEAK.

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SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT

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MICHAEL COHEN BE FOUND

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CREDIBLE.

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THE WITNESSES CO TO WHAT

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MICHAEL COHEN DID.

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BUT HE HAS TO BE TRUSTED BY THE

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JURY THAT HE WAS TOLD TO DO IT

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>> COURT WILL PROCEED THERE IS

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TYPICALLY NO COURT ON

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WEDNESDAYS.

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THE SHADOW OVER IT, THE THING

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HANGING OVER IT.

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HEARING WHAT THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT WAS TALKING ABOUT ON

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HIS WAY OUT OF COURT.

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THAT IS THE VIOLATIONS THAT THE

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JUDGE DECIDED HE CONDUCTED

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AGAINST THAT PARTIAL GAG ORDER

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IN PLACE HERE.

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CATHERINE, THE JUDGE ONLY

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AGREED ON ONE NEW VIOLATION

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TODAY, THERE WERE NINE OTHERS

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ALREADY.

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ANOTHER $1,000 FINE.

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WE LAID IT OUT AT THE TOP OF

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THIS SPECIAL REPORT THE JUDGE

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SEEMS AT THE END OF HIS ROPE

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HERE WITH FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP.

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IS IT?

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JUST GUT CHECK, RIGHT, THE

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JUDGE SAID CLEARLY I DON'T WANT

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TO PUT YOU IN A JAIL CELL, I

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WILL IF I HAVE TO.

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IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS, HE PUTS

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HIM IN TIME-OUT, HOLDING AREA,

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WHAT REALLY COULD HAPPEN HERE,

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HONESTLY?

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>> AND THE JUDGE GAVE

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THEMSELVES WIGGLE ROOM.

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IF IT IS NECESSARY AND

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APPROPRIATE UNDER THE

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CIRCUMSTANCES I WILL DO THIS

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AND HE EMPLOYED, SPOKE TO

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TRUMP.

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HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO THAT.

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IT WILL BE A LOGISTICAL

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NIGHTMARE AND IT IS

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INTERESTING, IT WAS POINTED

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OUT.

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TRUMP HAS NOT BEEN VIOLATING

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THE GAG ORDER SINCE LAST WEEK.

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YES, HE IS IS ALOWED TO TRASH

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THE JUDGE AND DOES DISTRICT

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ATTORNEY AND IT IS A WITCH-HUNT

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BUT STAY AWAY FROM JURY AND

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JURORS AND STAFF AND THEIR

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FAMILIES.

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DESPITE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT

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JAIL, THERE IS NO WAY IN THE

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WORLD TRUMP WANTS TO GO TO

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JAIL.

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SO, YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE WILL

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NOT DO IT UNLESS HE IS FORCED

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TO DO IT.

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>> IS THAT A SMIRK THAT I SEE

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ON YOUR FACE?

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WHAT IS HIS ATTORNEYS SAYING TO

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HIM.

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THEY ARE SAYING NOTHING.

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AT THIS POINT, THEY KNOW THE

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SCORE.

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THERE IS NOT, LOOK, SOMETIMES

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YOU HAVE A CLIENT WHAT ARE YOU

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GOING TO DO, YELL AT THEM?

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IT DOES NOT WORK.

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THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR DEFENSE

11:57

ATTORNEYS IN ESPECIALLY THE

11:58

WHITE COLLAR CASES IS THE

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CLIENT.

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THE CLIENT THINKS THEY KNOW HOW

12:01

THE WORLD WORKS AND EXPLAIN

12:02

EVERYTHING AWAY.

12:03

THEY DON'T REALIZE DOING THINGS

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THEIR WAY IS WHY THEY ARE IN

12:08

CRIMINAL COURT IN THE FIRST

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PLAY.

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THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

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THE PROSECUTION SUGGESTED TWO

12:13

WEEKS FROM TOMORROW IS WHEN

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THEY ANTICIPATE WRAPPING UP THE

12:17

BULK OF THEIR CASE.

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HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE

12:21

DEFENSE GOING IN OTHER WORDS

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WHEN MIGHT THE JURY GET THIS

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CASE?

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>> IT WILL BE SHORTER THAN

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ANTICIPATED.

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TO ECHO WHAT CATHERINE SAID, I

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THINK THE PROSECUTION DOES NOT

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NEED WITNESSES LIKE KAREN

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McDOUGAL.

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MAY NOT NEED STORMY DANIELS.

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MAYBE I AM BEING TOO MINIMALIST

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BUT THE DEFENSE CASE IS ALMOST

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ALWAYS SHORTER.

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LOOK AT THEM TO CALL A FEW

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WITNESSES BUT, IT WILL

12:44

GENERALLY BE SHORTER.

12:45

WE DON'T HAVE THE BURDEN ON THE

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DEFENSE SO WE DON'T HAVE

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ANYTHING TO PROVE.

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WE CAN STAND ON THAT ALONE.

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>> DANNY, CATHERINE, GREAT TO

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