Ringo Talks About How The Beatles Didn't Get Along
Summary
TLDRIn this reflective interview, the speaker reminisces about his time as a member of the Beatles and his subsequent solo career. He discusses the camaraderie and occasional disagreements within the band, emphasizing that their passion for music always took precedence. The speaker credits Paul McCartney for their extensive discography, as Paul's work ethic pushed the group to record more than they might have otherwise. He also highlights the importance of his fellow bandmates in keeping each other grounded, drawing a contrast with the isolation he perceived in Elvis Presley's life. The interviewee shares his disdain for practicing alone, preferring to learn with other musicians, and fondly recalls his early days playing in Liverpool. He speaks about the decision to join the Beatles, leaving behind a more popular band at the time, The Hurricanes, due to his admiration for John, Paul, and George. The speaker also reflects on his role in the Beatles, considering himself a band member rather than a solo artist, and his later formation of Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band, which came about unexpectedly but has been a rewarding experience for nearly 30 years.
Takeaways
- πΆ The speaker reflects on the dynamic within the band, mentioning disagreements but emphasizing that they never interfered with their music.
- π¨βπ¨βπ§βπ¦ He highlights the importance of the collective effort and how personal lives and children influenced the band's work ethic over time.
- πΌ The speaker acknowledges Paul McCartney's work ethic, which led to the band recording more albums than they might have otherwise.
- π He talks about how he learned to play not from practicing alone, but by playing with other musicians and bands in Liverpool.
- π² The speaker discusses the risks involved in life and his decision to join the Beatles, leaving behind a successful band at the time.
- π He expresses admiration for his fellow band members, John, Paul, and George, and how he was drawn to their talent and camaraderie.
- π The speaker contrasts his experience in a band with that of a solo artist like Elvis Presley, appreciating the support of his bandmates.
- πΌ He mentions that he never focused on individual drummers when listening to music, but rather on the overall performance.
- π The speaker describes his approach to performing, preferring to put the band forward rather than himself as a solo artist.
- π₯ He talks about his identity as a drummer and being part of a band, including his own All Starr band, which he has been leading since 1989.
- π The formation of the All Starr band came about unexpectedly, initiated by a promoter's idea and a phone call, which the speaker agreed to.
- π€ The speaker shares his initial insecurity about leading a band, having always been part of existing bands rather than forming his own.
Q & A
What was the speaker's experience like being part of a band with four members?
-The speaker described the experience as having occasional disagreements or 'rows', but these never interfered with their music. They emphasized the importance of giving their best, even as personal lives and responsibilities grew.
Why does the speaker credit Paul for the band's productivity?
-The speaker credits Paul as the 'workaholic' of the band, stating that Paul's drive led to the creation of more records than would have been made otherwise.
How did the speaker feel about their career after leaving the factory in 1960?
-The speaker expressed satisfaction with their career, mentioning that they have played music, made good records, and have not lost their sense of purpose or 'moorings'.
What did the speaker think about Elvis when they met him?
-The speaker felt that Elvis was 'sad' because, despite being surrounded by people, he was essentially alone, unlike the speaker who had three great mates in the band.
How did the speaker describe their learning process as a musician?
-The speaker disliked practicing alone and instead learned by playing with other musicians and bands. They emphasized learning from everyone around them, particularly in Liverpool.
What was the speaker's reaction when asked to join the Beatles?
-The speaker was excited and had no hesitation in joining the Beatles, despite the fact that the Hurricanes, their previous band, were more popular at the time.
Why did the speaker decide to leave the Hurricanes for the Beatles?
-The speaker admired the Beatles' front line and enjoyed their music and playing style. They felt a strong connection with John, Paul, and George, which influenced their decision.
How did the speaker feel about being the drummer in a band?
-The speaker identified as a 'band guy' who loves to be part of a group, rather than seeking the spotlight as a solo drummer.
What was the inspiration behind forming Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band?
-The idea came from a promoter's suggestion to Pepsi, which led to a call to the speaker's lawyer. The speaker agreed and formed the band, which has been active for nearly 30 years.
How did the speaker feel about putting together the All-Starr Band?
-The speaker felt insecure about the process, as it was the first time they had put a band together themselves, instead of joining existing bands.
What was a memorable moment from the speaker's early musical experiences?
-A memorable moment was playing with his best friend Roy and Eddie Miles, a great guitarist, in the basement during lunchtime for men working in the factory.
How did the speaker's early influences shape their approach to being a drummer?
-The speaker was more focused on the overall music and performance rather than just the drumming parts, learning from the whole experience and other musicians rather than specific drummers.
Outlines
πΆ The Beatles' Dynamics and Personal Growth πΆ
The speaker reflects on the interpersonal dynamics within the Beatles, highlighting the occasional disagreements but emphasizing that their dedication to music always took precedence. He acknowledges the influence of Paul McCartney's work ethic on the band's productivity. The speaker also discusses the impact of personal lives, including starting families, on the band's efforts. He credits the strong bond among the four band members from Liverpool for their mutual support and humility, contrasting their camaraderie with the loneliness of other top artists like Elvis. The speaker shares his initial dislike for practicing and how he learned by playing with other musicians. He also talks about the risks he took in joining the Beatles, leaving a successful band, Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, for what he saw as a step up in talent and camaraderie.
π₯ Drummers, Bands, and Ringo's Solo Career π₯
The paragraph delves into the speaker's admiration for other musicians and how he was influenced by various artists and bands, without focusing specifically on drummers. He recalls a memorable experience listening to Al Green and the impact it had on him. The speaker then transitions into his solo career, expressing his love for being part of a band and his approach to putting the band before himself during performances. He clarifies his role as a drummer and band member, highlighting his identity with the Beatles and his subsequent solo project, 'Ringo and His All-Starr Band.' The narrative includes the story behind the formation of his solo band, the initial insecurity he felt, and the talented musicians he collaborated with, including some of his heroes.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Beatles
π‘Musicianship
π‘Workaholic
π‘Liverpool
π‘Rory Storm and the Hurricanes
π‘Risk-taking
π‘Practice
π‘Solo Career
π‘Band Dynamics
π‘Ringo Starr
π‘Ringo's All Starr Band
Highlights
The speaker discusses the dynamics within a band, emphasizing that personal conflicts did not interfere with their music.
Acknowledgment of the natural progression of life and commitment, where the effort put into the music began to feel less fulfilling.
Credit is given to Paul for his work ethic, which led to the band making more records than they might have otherwise.
The speaker reflects on the importance of having a support system within the band, highlighting the camaraderie among the members.
A poignant observation is made about the loneliness of fame, contrasting the speaker's experience with that of Elvis Presley.
The speaker shares his passion for music and the joy of making good records, despite the challenges.
The importance of practice and the speaker's dislike for it, preferring to learn with other musicians.
A story about the speaker's start in music, playing with friends during lunch breaks in a factory basement.
The speaker talks about taking risks in life and career, including the decision to join the Beatles over staying with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes.
The admiration for the Beatles' front line and the speaker's decision to join the group despite the risks.
The speaker's experience of being part of a band and the joy it brings, emphasizing the love for being in a band.
The formation of Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band and the initial insecurity the speaker felt in putting the band together.
The speaker's humility and self-deprecation when discussing his role in the All-Starr Band.
The story of an early attempt to form a band and the humorous outcome of it falling apart quickly.
The speaker's philosophy on life and the importance of enjoying it, despite the ups and downs.
Transcripts
well there were all those stories at the
time there stories about almost
everything yeah that's the about how you
didn't get along you had one another we
didn't get along we were four guys we
had rows we uh it never got in the way
of the music no matter how bad the row
was uh once the C in we all gave our
best and that was a little later too
which I think is a natural thing you
know
suddenly we've got lives and I've got
children and you know the the the effort
that we put in cuz we worked really hard
uh was starting to pale a little you
know and you know we always thank Paul
to this day because of Paul who was the
workaholic of our band we made a lot
more records than John and I would have
made say you know uh we like to sit
around a little more and then Paul would
call all right Lads and we'd go in yeah
you've been in the wind for a long time
my friend better than having
wind well I can agree with that yeah
yeah yeah I have you know from
1960 when I left the factory this is
what I've done you know I've played I've
T made a few good
records made a few good records you know
and I know many people particularly
people who are at the top or have been
at the top who lose their Moorings they
do they they lose the entities the what
they come up to you haven't done that uh
well thanks I hope not um I don't I
think it's all part of where we came
from as well and for you know I always
give credit that there was you know
we're talking about the Beatles there
four of us I mean I was in Rory storm
and the Hurricanes but there were four
of us and we all from the same same city
and we would look at each other you know
if one of us would be freaking out or
being a big shot three other people
would go excuse me you know and that
kept us and you know it's interesting is
the time we met
Elvis I really thought how sad he's on
his own and he had all those people
around but he was on his own I had three
great mates I'm well enough of it here
and but you mentioned earlier you had a
god-given gift yeah time how much of it
is a god-given gift and how much of it
is all those hours you spent practicing
I
didn't I hate
practicing I hate sitting there I tried
it when I first got the kit upstairs in
the back room you know all those movies
that were made and it was the most
boring thing ever I did all my learning
with other musicians other bands I was
lucky cuz there were a lot of us around
and we weren't
all great players we were all learning
so I learned everything with everyone
else at that time this is in Liverpool
when in Liverpool yeah but I was looking
in the factory the guy who lived next
door to me in the street worked in the
fact he was Eddie miles a great
guitarist uh he just one of those guys
picked it off can play anything you know
and my best friend Roy had to made a TS
base and I had a SN bed and brushes and
we used to play to the men at lunchtime
in the basement and that's how I started
and now I'm talking to you you mentioned
U taking risks that we take risk in life
there's no good looking back and seeing
might have could or should have taken
this road or there but you took a big
risk you were playing with the
Hurricanes I was and you got a chance to
go with this Beatles group yeah I know
but the Hurricanes were bigger at the
moment they were and but I loved from
Germany where we met really we were
playing Roar in hurricanes and the
Beatles were playing the different clubs
than the guy Kau me to own both of them
put us on the same club and I loved John
Paul and George I just loved that front
line and you know we would do at the
weekend 12 hours between us and I'd be
there for the last gig you know uh just
sitting there watching the front line
requesting
songs uh yeah so then they asked and I
had no hesitation but people did say you
going to leave Rory and I said yeah yeah
I'm going to leave you know just make a
step up I'm interested to know why that
was you you like the group I did you
like the music yeah they were great
players they were the where uh you know
Rory was a showman and we were players
and we had a guitarist called Johnny
Guitar who was great but that was about
it really uh but we
you know we were big in Liverpool and uh
I just loved them so you know the thing
Brian called it was a wedding day he
said would you join the vend I said sure
I said when he said oh tonight I said no
I have to I can come Saturday cuz
they've got to get another
drummer cuz you know we're all playing
the same songs well let's go back for
for a minute even before the Hurricanes
you heard lightning Hopkins you heard
tub you heard Hank Williams Hank
Williams all of those did you hear other
the Dr drummers for example Jean kupo
was a big drummer I went to see uh I
think it was The Glenn Miller Story Glen
uh Jean kroer was actually in it yeah
but people always ask me oh what about
those drummers and those records I never
listened to the drummer I listened to
the whole thing you know there was an Al
Green track called I'm a ram and the guy
hit the high boom boom boom
it's like magic to me and I remember sit
you know I remember those moments we
sitting with clous Borman in this
apartment we have in London and
uh so that did but Al Jackson yes I know
the names and they played on great
records but it wasn't like I was
listening for the drums well looking
back over your career you've had it all
you've had a great solo career still
touring with your own man in which you
put the band
forward uh I was there last night when
you performed and frankly a little
surprising but very impressive you don't
put yourself forward you put the band
forward the whole band I love to be in a
band I'm a band guy you're a band guy
now and a drummer now help me remember
I'm not a musician but do you think of
yourself as a
sidan or is the drummer in a special
category you have the star the
centerpiece well because of the Beatles
and that you know
I'm I am the guy it's Ringo and the all
stars right but I play with all these
other guys they play for me and uh it
sort of worked out since 198 now be 30
years I've been doing this part of my
life
um next year uh when I put the first
Ringo on the All Stars band together
which came about how crazy some guy
promoter Pepsi had got to him and say
you know we'd like Ringo to do a tour
that will'll support him who got to my
lawyer who uh called
me out of the
blue and I
thought yeah okay and I founded you know
it was quite a big band cuz I just don't
in those days the phone
book and called all these Dr John Joe
Walsh Billy Preston Clarence I thought
that'd be good i' big Clarence to bump
up against and Nils and leave on I was
so insecure though I said yes I there
were three drummers I was in the middle
Jim kler my hero from La drummer was on
this side and leeon Helm was on this
side and we were just all boogieing away
it's very good but you said you were
insecure but I was I never put a band
together together I've always been in
bands joined bands the only time I put a
band together was like
19 make life easy 58 and uh I was trying
to put this band together I heard about
this trumpet player and uh said oh man
come down we'll have a rehearsal and the
trumpet player did play trumpet but the
only thing he could play was When the
Saints Go Marching In
I said uh that band fell apart really
quick so you know it's good life is good
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