ASUS... Why are you the way that you are?!

okay so Intel has been kind of like

putting the on the motherboard

manufacturer saying hey all you guys get

your together problem is they

they're not really getting their

together cable Mod's new stealth Sense

Technology effectively eliminates the

need for sense wires for your 40 series

GPU Ste sense features a hidden Bridge

which signals the GPU that a full 600

WTS is available all without the need

for fragile sense wires that can easily

be dislodged leading to a black screen

and 100% fans to see the full spec list

and Power suppli supported follow the

link in the description below okay so

this story's been kind of like ongoing

now for a while um just a little back

story if you haven't watched already

I've well I've personally been

complaining about 13th and 14th gen

since they launched but the complaints

about motherboard manufacturers pushing

limits and making CPUs perform higher

than the real outof the boox like Intel

specs would be has been going on since

like 8th gen like 8th gen 8000 series

like 8700k CPU was the first time we saw

in reviews that there was really massive

varying scores between reviewers because

we a lot of us weren't catching the fact

that board manufacturers like Asus were

pushing limits and pushing values and

and multi-core enhancement out of the

box giving a very different out of the

box experience and up until now it's

kind of been a complaint but it hasn't

been a problem until now where CPUs are

now starting to actually be physically

damaged by the Liberties that

motherboard manufacturers are taken now

I'm using an Asus z690 Maximus formula

on a 13900 K now the issue between like

the I9 CPUs for 13th and 14th gen which

are essentially just the same CPU

they're the exact same die process so

that's why they're really kind of lumped

together in these particular discussions

when it comes to the I9 stuff um there's

confusion even amongst like Intel's

explanations of the different profiles

and stuff because there are multiple

profiles so there is an Intel Baseline

we'll talk about that in a second cuz

that's sort of a ghost number if you

will then there's Intel performance and

then there's Intel extreme now that's

just the Intel side then you take the

motherboard manufacturers kind of

putting their own secret sauce into it

then you never know what the you're

getting when you put in a CPU into a

motherboard and turn it on and now that

we've had plenty of CPUs fail either no

longer stable at stock speeds or dying

all together Intel finally had to like

rein in the motherboard manufacturers to

say hey you need to start enforcing our

limits which are on this table right

here we'll talk about these these limits

in a second the problem is like Asus on

their Prime board and I don't know if

it's going to exist on the the formula

board we're going to figure this out

together went like so far the other

direction it's almost like they did as

spite it's almost like Asus was like

fine you me tell us what you then we're

going to go ahead and your

performance well okay let's talk about

that first and foremost one of the

biggest complaints I've talked about a

million times and I'll go ahead and do

it right now is that when you load

optimize

defaults and then we go ahead ahe and

restart you'll notice optimized defaults

is nothing more than enabling multicore

enhancement now those multicore

enhancements have numbers built into

them that depending on your BIOS version

by the way and based on the motherboard

manufacturer they all kind of like live

in the auto overclocking realm of

whatever the hell they decide they want

it to be so it's going to be different

between board manufacturer and board

manufacturer and different between board

and board because this is an

overclocking board so of course it's

going to and push those limits even

higher but the point is as a consumer

this is this is remember this is a recap

of the problem so if you've already seen

the video and you're like why are you

repeating yourself as for those that

haven't is auto let bios optimize is

multicore enhancement on so autolet bios

optimize is on they we have disabled

enforce all limits so really what you're

disabling is the multicore enhancement

right so by turning that off you should

be enforcing all limits that's where we

get the 400 amps and the 253 long

duration 253 short duration but if I was

to enfor uh enabled Auto let bios

optimize for multicore enhancement it

sets that to 511 amps it sets the the

short duration to

4,096 which is then just unlimited so

what we're going to do today I've now

downloaded their latest bios the latest

bios dated April 24th 2024 so

42424 it's a p

drone so this is actually a new message

this is the first time I've seen this it

just got done flashing our bio so I'm

going to remove the drive um it says

press F1 to continue and take advantage

of Asus optimized

performance if you wish to follow Intel

guidelines and apply it stock power

limits please disable the esus multicore

enhancement MCE in the bio settings next

you will enter the U you know I feel

like if that setting if that message was

always there on first boot I kind of

would have been okay but that was never

there until now this is from 8th gen

until now so no matter what it's going

to apply it you have to go into the buy

so there should be an F2 to just load

Intel def why why aren't they doing that

it's literally F1 to go to setup but

when you go to setup it's also going to

automatically turn on optimized

performance so it should give you an

option on the boot right now to F1 for

optimized performance or F2 for Intel

Bas baselines we'll talk about that now

because that that's the next part of

this so

F1 okay optimized defaults are on we're

now on 3501 41924 build date and uh

there we go so there's a bunch of stuff

we need to check right now so Auto let

optimize is now enabled 51.75 amps cuz

it's as high as you could possibly go

before 512 there's our 4,95 Watts it is

56 seconds and 495

Watts okay so what kind of profiles do

we get now if we look

under okay so all we get is auto let

bios optimized disable enforce all

limits enabled remove all limits so the

exactly the same settings there's

nothing there listed as Intel

defaults which is kind of crazy okay so

okay disabled enforce all limits there

we go let's do that okay 280

amp which is below the 307 performance

already so that's kind of weird long

package duration 253 short package 25356

those numbers are good that's what we'd

expect right here that's what we have

we're going to be looking for C current

Excursion protection needs to be enabled

oh they're

disabled I thought you were following

Intel's chart Asus can't wait for the

17-page email about how I'm dumb on this

one okay uh C Excursion protection

enable enable well they're off for

whatever reason so let's enable those

okay so unlimited ICC Mac should be set

to

disable well again I don't know what

it's doing cuz it's not telling me what

it's doing so we'll disable that

[Music]

one okay

wait so I just went through all that and

I

noticed there's Intel Baseline profile

up

here I guess I I guess that makes sense

cuz it's not a part of multicore

enhancement okay you know what fine

let's just undo everything they just did

let's enable that so AC multicore

enhancement autolet bias optimize is

going to disabled enforce all limits

svid Behavior auto Intel's failsafe okay

IIA C and sa C to enabled I a TDC

current limit Auto to Intel's default if

you remember that message if we go and

pop it back up on the screen it says if

you want to use Intel's Baseline

settings to go into BIOS and disable

multicore enhancement which is that

disabled enable all limits but as you

saw there's that whole separate section

that you have to actually select and hit

enter and reboot to truly get the

baselines and then on top of it it's

still not even accurate based on Intel's

chart because it should be 400 amps but

it's 280 so this is why Intel is also

saying don't use Baseline but if you

don't use Baseline then you have to use

their multicore enhancement which means

as a PC user now you have to go in and

go in and manually turn on this sh this

is why it's so

infuriating here 67c so it probably Maxs

out 75 once the coolant fully hot our

clocks though immediately are at 4.7 GHz

all core it's only pulling 208 Watts

right now under load I guarantee it's

because of the amps that are set too low

33701 that is not what you paid for do

you know why because again Asus is

incapable of following a simple chart so

I'm going to set this to 400 right now

and make sure that 400 applied we're

going to run it again okay so this is

now the Intel extreme profile 253 253

and 400 amps so we still don't have as

much clock speed as we really would like

to see but we are getting the Intel

numbers and 5 gigs makes sense it's

probably going to be like a 35,000 score

36,0

220 so do you see how one setting that

Asus was too stupid to actually be able

to put into a profile cost you 3,000

points in tend bench the biggest problem

here is absolutely no endend user should

ever have to go in and man ually enter a

value into their motherboard bio

settings to get the

CPUs default parameters to run if if you

recall in the Bios we had to go to two

two spots to get the wrong thing to

apply we had to disable the multicore

and then we had to click on

Intel Baseline say yes reboot it and

then go in and manipulate the amps to

even get to the score where we are right

now which is actually believe it or not

still scoring a little bit low it should

be more like 37 38,000

that's where it should be even gigabyte

a brand that I have complained about in

the past hardcore about having some of

the worst bios on the planet even has a

drop down where you can select different

Intel profiles why is Asus not able to

do that they band-aided these bios

together to add that button to appease

Intel because Intel finally had to get

involved and say WTF bro and then they

still

up anyway if I see mad at Asus they

deserve it Asus has drank their own

Kool-Aid for so long they don't think

they ever can possibly do anything wrong

but I'm here to tell you right now Asus

has no problems killing your CPU they

don't they don't have any problem with

it at all do you know why because Intel

let them get away with it long enough

now so now the Intel is trying to you

know bring a stray dog back in the house

it's no longer house broken so it's

going to take some time and I'm now I'm

dealing with this on Skunk Works too

because the Maximus board on that one is

all borked with settings too so it's

spoonfed