Ex-Trump official predicts Melania's behavior amid Trump criminal trial
Summary
TLDRتتناول النقاشات القانونية الجارية حول الجهود المتكررة والفاشلة لفريق الدفاع عن الرئيس السابق ترامب لتأجيل محاكمته، بما في ذلك محاولات اللجوء إلى محكمة الاستئناف والمحكمة العليا لطلب تعليق القضية بناءً على حصانة الرئيس. يشير الخبراء إلى أن هذه الجهود قليلة الفرص للنجاح نظرًا للإشارات الواضحة من محاكم نيويورك والتوقيت غير المناسب لتقديم الطلبات. تتطرق النقاشات أيضًا إلى دوافع ترامب الشخصية والعواقب المحتملة لانتهاكاته المتكررة لأوامر الصمت، مع التركيز على التأثير الشخصي والعام لهذه الأفعال.
Takeaways
- 📚 القضية تدور حول مدفوعات ال封口费 التي تمت لتأثير في الانتخابات.
- 👨⚖️ المحكمة في نيويورك تشير إلى أن القضية ستستمر وwon't stop.
- 🏛️ الCour of Appeals في نيويورك ستصدر قرارًا بسرعة بشأن الدعوات وال上訴.
- 💭 الSupreme Court هو البطاقة الغير متوقعة في هذه القضية.
- 🤔 القضية المتعلقة بالحصانة الرئاسية ليست نفس القضية التي ينظر فيها الSupreme Court.
- 🚫 القضية لا تهم بالضرورة ما إذا كان ترامب كان يمارس علاقة مع ستورمي دانيلز.
- 🧐 ترامب قد يواجه صعوبات كبيرة إذا اتخذ القرار الشخصي لل出庭.
- 🗣️ ترامب يشير إلى التهميش والكذب في النشرات على وسائل التواصل الاجتماعي.
- 👥 ترامب يعلم أن الجمهور يدرك أن القضية الشخصية له وأنه يحاول تجنبه.
- 💔 ترامب يتوقع أن يواجه العداء بسبب النشرات التي ينشرها، وأنه لا يريد العداء.
- 👩💼 ملانيا ترامب هي الشخص الشخص الذي تؤثر عليه القضية والrittmost لل她.
Q & A
What is the main legal issue being discussed in the transcript?
-The main legal issue discussed is the possibility of further appeals by Trump's legal team in the case involving hush payments and potential immunity concerns.
What is Ryan Goodman's view on the likelihood of success in the New York courts?
-Ryan Goodman believes that the New York courts will not stop the trial and that they are signaling a full steam ahead approach, indicating that the trial date is set in stone.
How does the Supreme Court factor into this case?
-The Supreme Court is considered a wildcard, with the possibility that Trump's lawyers could bring the case before it, although the specific immunity question raised is not the same as federal immunity and might not be the kind of case the Supreme Court would typically take up.
What was the reason behind the judge's ruling on the untimeliness of the motion?
-The judge ruled the motion was untimely because the Trump team had ample time to submit it but waited until the last minute, leading the judge to suspect other motives.
Why is Trump trying to delay the case despite its potential being the least damaging against him?
-The case is very personal and embarrassing for Trump, especially in front of his family and his wife, Melania, which is why he is trying to delay it.
What impact could Trump's social media posts have on the trial and the safety of witnesses?
-Trump's social media posts, which label the witnesses as liars, could potentially put Stormy Daniels in danger and are considered a stark violation of the gag order.
How has Trump's behavior been in previous legal situations when under pressure?
-In previous legal situations, such as the Jean Carroll deposition, Trump has not fared well under pressure, often hurting his case with his testimony.
What is the main focus of the hush payments case?
-The hush payments case is primarily about whether the payments were made to influence the election, not about the actual affair between Trump and Stormy Daniels.
What is the role of the jury in this case?
-The jury's role is to judge the witnesses based on their testimony in court and the instructions provided by the judge, which is a crucial part of maintaining the integrity of the trial.
Is there a concern that Trump's actions could lead to increased threats against witnesses?
-Yes, there is a concern that his actions, such as calling witnesses liars, could lead to increased threats against them, potentially jeopardizing the integrity of the trial.
What is the potential consequence for Trump if he continues to defy the gag order?
-While it is unclear, there is a possibility that Trump could face jail time for violating the gag order, especially if he continues to do so defiantly.
Outlines
📚 Legal Analysis on Trump's Court Cases
The paragraph discusses the legal challenges faced by former President Trump, with legal analyst Ryan Goodman and former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham providing insights. The conversation revolves around the likelihood of Trump's attempts to appeal cases in New York courts and the possibility of taking the matter to the Supreme Court. Goodman suggests that the New York courts are unlikely to halt the proceedings, while Grisham shares her perspective on the personal implications of the case for Trump and his family, particularly his wife Melania. The discussion also touches on the potential consequences of Trump's social media posts and their violation of gag orders.
💬 Trump's Social Media and Gag Order Violations
This paragraph focuses on the impact of Trump's social media activity on the ongoing legal proceedings, especially in relation to the gag order. The panelists discuss the potential danger posed to witnesses like Stormy Daniels due to Trump's public comments. They also debate whether Trump's actions are intentionally defying the judge's orders and the potential legal consequences he might face. Grisham shares her knowledge of Trump's past interactions with gag orders and suggests that he may not face any significant consequences for his actions, based on past experiences.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Appeals Court
💡Supreme Court
💡Immunity
💡Trial Date
💡Hail Mary
💡Gag Order
💡Witness Intimidation
💡Public Attention
💡Social Media Posts
💡Consequences
Highlights
Discussion on the possibility of appeals in the case involving former President Trump.
Legal analyst's view that New York courts are unlikely to halt the trial进程.
The Supreme Court considered as a wildcard in the case.
Concerns about the use of evidence in the trial due to claims of presidential immunity.
The untimeliness of Trump's motion and the judge's suspicion of other motives.
Stephanie Grisham's insight into Melania Trump's perspective on the case and her influence on Trump.
The potential embarrassment and humiliation for Melania Trump regarding the case.
The likelihood of Trump taking the stand despite the risks involved.
The focus on whether hush payments were made to influence the election.
The impact of Trump's social media posts on the gag order and potential threats to witnesses.
The judge's specific gag order regarding comments on witnesses.
The process of selecting jurors and the importance of their impartiality.
The potential consequences of violating the gag order.
Grisham's view on Trump's defiance against gag orders and his perception of not facing consequences.
The discussion on the likelihood of Trump facing jail time for contempt of court.
The analysis of Trump's legal strategy and its effectiveness.
The examination of the potential impact of the trial on Trump's public image and future campaigns.
Transcripts
APPEALS THIS WEEK OR BEFORE
MONDAY.
>> ALL RIGHT, PAULA, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ROCHA IS WITH ME NOW,
THE FORMER SDNY DIVISION CHIEF
RYAN GOODMAN ARE LEGAL ANALYST
AND STEPHANIE GRISHAM, THE
FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE PRESS
SECRETARY SO MANY THREE DAYS,
THREE EFFORTS, THREE FAILURES,
AS PAULA SAID, UNCLEAR WHAT
ELSE THEY COULD TRY TO DO, BUT
SHE LAID OUT ONE POSSIBILITY
THAT WE COULD TRY TO GO TO THE
APPEALS COURT, FAIL, TRY TO GO
TO THE SUPREME COURT, TRIED TO
GET A STAY THERE ON THIS CASE
WHILE IMMUNITY IS DECIDED, IS
ANY OF THIS REALISTIC?
>> I THINK THERE'S NOTHING
THAT THEY CAN DO IN THE NEW
YORK COURTS THAT WILL STOP THIS
I THINK THE NEW YORK COURTS ARE
REPEATEDLY SIGNALLING BOTH THE
JUDGE, THE TRIAL JUDGE, THE
APPELLATE DIVISION HAS ALREADY
DONE THIS AND I BELIEVE THE
COURT OF APPEALS WILL ALSO
RULING VERY QUICKLY ON THESE
REPEATED MOTIONS AND APPEALS.
THEY ARE SEEMED TO BE A FULL
STEAM AHEAD THAT THIS IS A REAL
TRIAL DATE AND IT'S STICKING.
I THINK THE SUPREME COURT IS
ALWAYS A WILDCARD HERE. I MEAN,
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE
IMMUNITY IN THE FEDERAL CASE.
AND SO THAT ONE IS A LITTLE BIT
HARDER TO SAY THAT CAN'T
POSSIBLY HAPPEN IF TRUMP BRINGS
IT TO THE SUPREME COURT. IF HIS
LAWYERS DO
>> BUT
>> I REALLY TRIED TO STAY AWAY
FROM PROTECTIONS WHEN IT COMES
TO ANYTHING REGARDING FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT I THINK
THE TRIALS GOING ON MONDAY.
YEAH. RYAN, DO YOU THINK THAT
THERE'S SUPREME COURT WILDCARD
IS MAINLY DESCRIBES IT. IS
THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THAT
THAT COMES IN IS THAT IS THAT
THE FINAL HAIR MARRY?
>> I THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S A
REAL HAIL MARY THAT'S ALMOST
DURING THE BALL OUTSIDE THE
STADIUM.
>> I LIKE IT. WE'RE USING ALL
THE RELIGIOUS AND SPORTS
ANALOGIES
>> EVERYTHING WOULD GO AHEAD.
>> AND PARTLY BECAUSE THE
IMMUNITY QUESTION THAT HE'S IS
RAISING IS NOT THE SAME AS THE
SUPREME COURT IS CURRENTLY
DECIDING THAT HE IS IMMUNE FROM
ACTUALLY BEING TRIED FROM
PROSECUTION. HE'S REALLY
TRYING TO SAY BECAUSE OF
PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, SOME
EVIDENCE CAN'T BE USED AGAINST
ME SO NOT THE KIND OF CASE THAT
THE COURT WOULD TAKE UP SO TO
HAVE TO BE SOME THINGS SO
BIZARRE FOR THEM TO DRESS IT.
AND IT'S NOT EVEN A RULING ON
THE MERITS. THE JUDGE ACTUALLY
JUST SAID YOUR MOTION IS
COMPLETELY UNTIMELY. YOU HAD A
TIME TO DO IT, AND THEN YOU
WAITED UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE,
EVEN FOR ME TO SUSPECT YOU HAVE
OTHER MOTIVES FOR DOING IT. SO
THEN ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE
APPEALING LIKE, OH, WE SHOULD
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUBMIT THE
MOTION, NOT THE QUESTION. I'M
IMMUNITY ITSELF. SO THAT JUST
SEEMS HE SHOULD THROW THE BALL,
BUT IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT IT
LANDS. ALL RIGHT,
>> SO SO STEPHANIE, THE CONTEXT
OF THIS OBVIOUSLY TRUMP'S LEGAL
TEAM KNOWS THESE, THESE DON'T,
THESE AREN'T SERIOUS LEGAL
MOVES. THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE
DOING IT, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE HE
WANTS THEM TO DO IT. SO EPIS
LAST MOMENT, THERE'S THIS
FRENETIC DESIRE TO HAVE THIS
CASE DELAYED SO WHY IS TRUMP
DOING THAT? STEPHANIE SO THIS
CASE, MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS
PROBABLY THE LEAST DAMAGING
AGAINST HIM. I DON'T DISAGREE
WITH THAT, HOWEVER, THIS IS
VERY PERSONAL TO HIM. THIS IS
AN EMBARRASSMENT TO HIM FOUR
WITH HIS FAMILY AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY, WITH HIS WIFE
MELANIA. AND I SPENT A TON OF
TIME WITH HER WHEN THE NEWS WAS
BREAKING ABOUT STORMY DANIELS
WHEN WE WERE IN THE WHITE
HOUSE. AND THEN OF COURSE WITH
KAREN MCDOUGAL, WHO WAS THE
FORMER PLAYBOY PLAYMATE. WHEN
THOSE CAME OUT THAT HE
ALLEGEDLY HAD THESE AFFAIRS AND
SHE DIDN'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY AT
ALL. WE WENT TO THE STATE OF
THE UNION SEPARATELY. SHE
REFUSED TO WALK OUT TO MARINE
ONE WITH HIM BECAUSE SHE DID
NOT WANT TO BE LIKE HILLARY
CLINTON AND STANDING BY HER
MAN. SHE'S A VERY INDEPENDENT
AND STRONG WOMAN AND I MIGHT
ADD, THERE HAVE BEEN ARTICLES
JUST RECENTLY THAT SHE'S HIS
SECRET WEAPON FOR THIS FOR THIS
UPCOMING CAMPAIGN. AND SO I
WOULD IMAGINE THAT SHE IS
PUSHING HIM TO MAKE THIS STOP.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT SHE WILL
PUSH HIM TO GO ON THE STAND AND
DEFEND HIMSELF BECAUSE THIS IS
THIS IS VERY, VERY EMBARRASSING
FOR HER. IT'S HUMILIATING FOR
HER. AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU
THAT SHE'S NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW
AND THAT HE'S QUITE WORRIED
ABOUT THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO HIM GOING ON
THE STAND, RIGHT
>> IN THIS
>> CASE, OBVIOUSLY, HE TRIES TO
MAKE IT ABOUT WHETHER HE DID OR
DID NOT SLEEP WITH STORMY
DANIELS THIS CASE IS ACTUALLY
ABOUT HUSH BUDDING PAYMENTS
WHICH WERE PAID AS TO WHETHER
THEY WERE DONE TO INFLUENCE THE
ELECTION, RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT
SOMETHING ELSE, BUT
NONETHELESS, HE, BECAUSE OF
WHAT STEPHANIE SAID, IS GOING
TO MAKE IT ABOUT THAT OTHER
THING, WHETHER HE DID OR
DIDN'T
>> DOES HE GO ON A STAND?
>> I THINK IT'D BE IN DEEP
TROUBLE AT ONE LEVEL. IT
ACTUALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER
OR NOT THEY HAD AN AFFAIR
BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT THEY WERE TRYING TO
SILENCE HER WRITING.
>> IT'S ALMOST YEAH THE DECIR
DIDN'T DID THEY WRITE AND THEN
WE'VE SEEN HIM OPERATE KIND OF
ON THE STAND UNDER PRESSURE IN
A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS IN WHICH
IT DIDN'T GO WELL FOR HIM. SO
THE E JEAN CARROLL DEPOSITION
DOES NOT GO WELL FOR HIM. YOU
ACTUALLY A THE WOMEN LAWYER
WHO'S REPRESENTING E. JEAN
CARROLL AND HE REPEATS THE
HOLLYWOOD ACCESS TAPE IN FRONT
OF HER IN A WAY THAT'S JUST
VERY BAD. RAMAN VERY DAMAGING
FOR HIM. AND THEN IN THE CIVIL
FRAUD CASE, THE JUDGE ACTUALLY
SAYS THAT WHEN TRUMP WAS ON THE
STAND, HE ENDED UP BEING NON
CREDIBLE. HE HURT HIS CASE. SO
I THINK IT'D BE VERY BAD AND
FOR HIM FOR THAT REASON, BUT
FOR PERSONAL REASONS, HAVING TO
DO WITH HIS WIFE TRYING TO TRY
TO WIN PUBLIC ATTENTION OR THE
PUBLIC STORY OR NARRATIVE
THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER. BUT
FOR LEGAL MATTER HAD BEEN DEEP
IN DEEP TROUBLE AND THAT IS
ULTIMATELY WHAT I MEAN, WHAT
ULTIMATELY MATTERS WN IT
COMES TO THE OUTCOME? THERE'S
ALSO THE ISSUE OF THOSE, THOSE
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND I
MENTIONED ONE OF THEM WERE
TRUMP IN COMPLIMENTING JUST
STORMY DANIELS, FORMER LAWYER
MICHAEL AVANADE, WHO HAS NOW
GONE FULL BORE ON TEAM TRUMP
SLAMS A STORMY DANIELS AND
MICHAEL COHEN AS WHAT WERE THE
WORD SLEAZE BAGS AND LIARS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S A
LITTLE BIT MORE THAT HAPPENED
HERE WHEN I SPOKE TO THE
DIRECTOR OF THE NEW DOCUMENT OR
WE JUST SAW STORMY DANIELS
SPEAKING IN THAT NEW DOCUMENT
OR I WANT TO PLAY MORE FROM IT
IN TERMS OF WHAT STORMY DANIELS
DESCRIBED AS TO WHAT HAPPENED
TO HER AFTER TRUMP WAS INDICTED
IN THIS CASE AND SHE WAS THE
NAME AT THE CENTER OF IT.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED.
>> BACK IN 2018. THAT WAS STUFF
LIKE LIAR GOLD DIGGER
>> THIS TIME AROUND IS VERY
DIFFERENT.
>> IT
>> IS DIRECT THREATS IT IS.
I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR
HOUSE AND SLIT YOUR THROAT.
YOUR DAUGHTER SHOULD BE
EUTHANIZED THEY'RE NOT EVEN
USING ACCOUNTS THEY'RE USING
THEIR REAL ACCOUNTS
>> SO IN THAT CONTEXT, TODAY,
TRUMP COMES OUT AND SAYS WHAT
HE SAYS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IS
THAT A VIOLATION OF THE GAG
ORDER? AND HE PUTTING STORMY
DANIELS, WHO IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA
BE THE WITNESS AT THE CENTER AT
ONE OF THE WITNESSES AT THE
CENTER OF THIS IN REAL DANGER?
>> SO I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER
IS YES IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN
JUDGES MAKE ORDERS. SO SPECIFIC
AS THE JUDGE DID IN THIS CASE,
RIGHT? I MEAN, IT WASN'T JUST A
YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT
ANYONE WHICH WOULD BE TOO
BROAD. IT WAS ABOUT THE
SPECIFIC WITNESSES IN THE CASE
AND THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THEY
THINGS THAT WILL CAUSE
INTIMIDATION AND THAT WILL
PREJUDICE THE JURY. I MEAN,
THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THIS.
YES.
>> THIS CAN LEAD TO
>> INCREASED THREATS WHICH ARE
HORRIBLE. THE THREAT SHE'S
DESCRIBING THERE AGAINST HER,
ALTHOUGH I THINK THOSE ARE
GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS, BUT
I'M SURE THERE IS A LIKELY
UPTICK IN THESE AFTER A POST
LIKE THIS. BUT IT ALSO, I MEAN,
WE ARE NOW DAYS AWAY FROM A
TRIAL STARTING. THE JUDGE IS
TRYING TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY
OF THE TRIAL WITH THE ORDER.
>> RIGHT. THE WITNESSES NEED TO
BE JUDGED BY THE JURY. THAT IS
STARTING TO BE CHOSEN ALREADY
BECAUSE THE QUESTIONNAIRES HAVE
FANOUT. THE JURORS NEED TO
JUDGE THE WITNESSES BY THEIR
TESTIMONY IN COURT WITH
INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE JUDGE. I
MEAN, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR A
REASON. AND SO TRUMP COMING OUT
AND CALLING THEM LIARS IS ABOUT
AS STARK A VIOLATION AS YOU CAN
GET.
>> AND SO STEPHANIE TRUMP.
KNOWS THAT. IS HE TAUNTING THE
JUDGE ME? DOES HE WANT TO FACE
POSSIBLE JAIL AND SEE IF THE
JUDGE WILL ACTUALLY DO IT FOR
VIOLATING THESE GAG ORDERS
>> HE DEFINITELY DOES NOT WANT
TO FACE JAIL. I CAN GUARANTEE
YOU THAT, BUT AS HE TALKED TO
THE JUDGE, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN,
HE'S HAD HOW MANY GAG ORDERS
ALREADY. I KNOW WE GOT FINED
LIKE $10,000 FOR VIOLATING IT.
ONE TIME, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE
SOME OF THESE JUDGES ARE
BENDING OVER BACKWARDS SO THAT
HE'S NOT LOOKING PERSECUTED
WHERE I BELIEVE I COULD BE
WRONG. THE LEGAL EXPERTS MIGHT
KNOW BETTER, BUT OTHER PEOPLE
WOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN IN JAIL
BY NOW FOR SO DEFIANTLY GOING
AGAINST THESE ORDERS FROM A
JUDGE. SO HE THINKS HE'S NOT
GONNA GET ANY CONSEQUENCES
BECAUSE HE HASN'T SO FAR,
WHICH IS HOW TRUMP LIVES. THINK
ABOUT HIS WHOLE LIFE. HE
HASN'T HAD ANY CONSEQUENCES SO
FAR. SO HE'S GOING TO KEEP
DOING IT ABSOLUTELY. UNTIL
THERE IS AN ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES
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