Sparks Fly When Dan Goldman Grills Ex-Hunter Biden Partner Tony Bobulinski About 'Big Guy' Email
Summary
TLDRIn a hearing, Mr. Goldman questions a witness about the involvement of Joe Biden in a business venture related to Onida Holdings and Hunter Biden. The witness clarifies the business structure of coh hawk Holdings, LLC, and the 50% ownership on the American side attributed to the Bidens. Despite the witness's claim of having substantial evidence, the discussion around a text message and an email suggesting a 'big guy' reference does not conclusively link Joe Biden's involvement. The witness's account contrasts with public statements made by James Giller, who denies the former vice president's involvement in the business discussions.
Takeaways
- 🕒 The questioning is time-sensitive, with only 5 minutes allocated for Mr. Goldman's inquiry.
- 🧐 Mr. Balinsky's testimony involves Joe Biden's alleged involvement in a business venture related to Onida Holdings and Hunter Biden.
- 💼 Onida Holdings is a business venture in which Mr. Balinsky and the Bidens are implicated, with Onida Holdings LLC and Coh Hawk Holdings LLC owning 50% stakes.
- 🤝 The partnership was documented and involved five partners, including Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, Rob Walker, James Gilear, and Mr. Balinsky, each with a 20% stake.
- 📜 The final signed documents confirm that the LLCs of the five partners owned the shares, not the individuals directly.
- 🕵️♂️ There is uncertainty regarding whether Joe Biden or an LLC related to him was involved in the ownership structure.
- 📅 The agreement in question was signed on May 22, 2017, when Mike Pence was Vice President and Donald Trump was President.
- 🗣️ Mr. Balinsky first met Hunter Biden in early 2017, with significant interactions occurring in May of that year, around the same time as meetings with Joe Biden.
- 📱 A text message from James Gilear to Mr. Balinsky on May 11, 2017, suggests involving Joe Biden in the business deal.
- 📧 An email sent by James Gilear proposed a division of the company, including a 10% share for 'the big guy,' an ambiguous reference.
- 🔍 Hunter Biden's claim that he did not respond to the 'big guy' email is contested, as there were responses to the email.
- 🚫 Despite the claims of involvement, James Gilear has stated that former Vice President Joe Biden was not involved in the 2017 discussions or the business structure.
Q & A
What is the business venture that Mr. Balinsky is referring to involving the Bidens?
-The business venture referred to is related to the company Onida Holdings and coh hawk Holdings, LLC, where Onida Holdings and Hunter Biden are involved.
How many partners were there in Onida Holdings, and what percentage of ownership did each partner have?
-There were five partners in Onida Holdings, with each partner owning 20% of the company.
Is it correct that Onida Holdings and coh hawk Holdings, LLC own 50% of the business venture?
-Yes, that is correct. Onida Holdings was the 50% on the American side of the coh hawk deal.
Who were the five partners in Onida Holdings?
-The five partners were Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, Rob Walker, James Gilear, and Mr. Balinsky.
Did any of the partners own their LLCs individually, or were they owned collectively?
-The partners' LLCs owned the shares, not the individuals themselves.
Is there any direct evidence that Joe Biden was involved in the business venture?
-Mr. Balinsky stated that he doesn't know if Joe Biden owned any of the LLCs related to Jim or Hunter Biden, leaving the involvement of Joe Biden uncertain.
When was the agreement involving Onida Holdings and coh hawk Holdings, LLC signed?
-The agreement was signed on May 22nd, 2017.
Who was the Vice President and the President of the United States on May 22nd, 2017?
-Mike Pence was the Vice President, and Donald Trump was the President.
When did Mr. Balinsky first meet Hunter Biden?
-Mr. Balinsky first met Hunter Biden in early 2017, with an extensive meeting in early May 2017.
What was the content of the text message between James Gillard and Mr. Balinsky dated May 11th, 2017?
-The text message discussed setting up the company and getting Joe involved, implying Joe Biden's involvement in the business venture.
What was the response to the email that suggested a division of the company, including a 10% share for 'the big guy'?
-Hunter Biden responded to the email, contradicting his previous claim that he didn't respond to it.
What did James Gilear say to the Wall Street Journal regarding Joe Biden's involvement?
-James Gilear stated that he would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Joe Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about their potential business structure, and that he was unaware of any involvement at any time.
Outlines
🕵️♂️ Inquiry into Business Ventures and Biden Involvement
The first paragraph involves a questioning session where Mr. Goldman is pressed for details about his business venture with the Bidens, specifically focusing on Onida Holdings and coh hawk Holdings LLC. The questioning delves into the structure of the partnership, the involvement of Joe Biden, and the equity distribution among five partners, including Hunter Biden. It also touches on the timing of the agreement, which was signed on May 22, 2017, and the claim of 'mountains of irrefutable evidence' regarding Joe Biden's involvement. The paragraph highlights a text message and an email suggesting a division of the company with a 'big guy' reference, implying Joe Biden's involvement.
🗣️ Public Denial of Biden's Involvement in Business
The second paragraph features a statement aimed at clarifying speculations about the former vice president's involvement in the 2017 business discussions. It emphasizes that there is no evidence of Joe Biden's participation, and the project in question never materialized. The statement also mentions that the agreement was eventually signed without Joe Biden's involvement, suggesting that the desire for his involvement led to a fallout with Hunter Biden. The paragraph concludes with a reference to Mr. Know Better Chairman's time expiring and the recognition of Mr. Higgins for further questioning.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Onida Holdings
💡Joe Biden
💡Hunter Biden
💡James Giller
💡LLC
💡Business Venture
💡Text Message
💡Big Guy
💡May 22nd, 2017
💡Bar 45 Minutes
💡Wall Street Journal
Highlights
The discussion revolves around a business venture involving Onida Holdings and the Bidens.
The witness, Mr. Balinsky, is questioned about Joe Biden's involvement in the business venture.
Onida Holdings and coh hawk Holdings, LLC were part of a 50-50 partnership.
The American side of the coh Hawk deal was represented by Onida Holdings.
James Giller, Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, Rob Walker, and the witness each owned 20% of Onida Holdings through their LLCs.
The final signed documents showed equal 20% shares among the five partners.
The agreement was signed on May 22nd, 2017, when Mike Pence was Vice President and Donald Trump was President.
The witness first met Hunter Biden in early 2017, with extensive interaction in May 2017.
The witness had two meetings with Joe Biden around the same time he met Hunter Biden.
The witness claims to have mountains of irrefutable evidence supporting Joe Biden's involvement.
A text message from May 11th, 2017, suggests getting Joe involved in the business.
An email from James Giller proposed a division of the company, including 10% for 'the big guy'.
Hunter Biden responded to the email, contrary to his claim of not responding.
The 'big guy' reference in the email was not directly responded to, implying everyone knew it referred to Joe Biden.
James Giller later clarified to the Wall Street Journal that Joe Biden was not involved in the 2017 discussions.
The agreement was eventually signed without Joe Biden's involvement.
Hunter Biden allegedly ended his association with the witness after the disagreement over Joe Biden's involvement.
The witness's claims of Joe Biden's involvement are contested, with evidence presented from both sides.
Transcripts
gentlemen time's expired chair now
recognize Mr Goldman for 5
minutes thank you Mr chairman um we only
I only have five minutes Mr balinsky so
I'm going to try to move quickly and I'd
appreciate if you just answer the
questions you testified that uh Joe
Biden was involved in your business
venture related to uh Onida Holdings and
Hunter Biden so I want to drill down on
the Crux of what your testimony is Onida
Holdings is the business venture that
you are referring to
correct when I'm referring to what can
you any business you did with the bidens
uh my reference is the coh hawk Holdings
uh LLC and onid Holdings LLC own 50% of
that right and Onida Holdings was the
50% uh that was on the American side of
that coh Hawk deal
right it was the 50% that was the Biden
side of it some of the you know James
Giller year is not an American so sorry
fair enough um and it was a a joint
partnership memorialized in a
incorporating document correct and it
had equal shares divided among five
Partners is that right well I can't are
you asking me about what you're holding
up because you're you're sir was it an
equal were there equal 20% shares among
five Partners in in what onid Holdings
in the final signed documents yes is
that what you're asking me yes it is not
complicated well it is cuz um you're
just filibustering now the answer is
you're filibustering I get it that there
were five Partners Hunter Biden Jim
Biden Rob Walker James gilear and you
each owned
20% do you well they didn't each own
their llc's owned it which is a material
do you see uh Joe Biden or an LLC
related to Joe Biden on this I don't
know if Joe Biden owned any of Jim Biden
zel C or Hunter Biden LLC I'll leave
that up to the committee okay and do you
know when this agreement was entered
into um the poster board that you're
holding up or the actual legal document
that was signed the agreement
sir we the agreement the agreement was
signed May 22nd
2017 who was the vice president then
uh May 22nd you said I think it was Mike
Pence and who was the president uh
Donald Trump okay and when did you first
meet Hunter Biden I first met Hunter
Biden in early 2017
when when in 2017 a day or month uh I
believe I briefly met him in New York
but I spent the the first meeting I had
extensive time with him was in uh early
May 2017 and that was around the same
time that you had those two meetings
with Joe Biden right it was but prior to
that I had numerous
discuss I had lawyers
can I please reclaim my time sir as I
said we have to move quickly here um
unfortunately you in your testimony
earlier today one of my colleagues asked
you about that meeting at the bar 45
minutes to 60 Minutes um and you were
also asked about that in your
transcribed interview and in neither of
your answers did you mention any
discussion that you had at that meeting
with Joe Biden about the Chinese
business venture yet in grandiose terms
here today you have declared that Joe
Biden was involved and that you have
mountains of irrefutable evidence to
support it so let's look at the
mountains of irrefutable evidence you
provided the committee with a screenshot
of a text message that uh is between
James Gillard and you dated May 11th
2017 you see this I don't know if you
can see it's if you can't see it's a
just you and James gilear though right
you remember this text message I'm sure
uh generally yes all right and in it our
rights man you are right let's get the
company set up then tell hent family the
high stakes and get Joe involved and two
days later Mr gilear sent an email to
you C seeing Rob Walker and Hunter Biden
in which he suggested a division of the
company and included a proposal of quote
10% held by H for the big guy question
mark you remember that right the
infamous email with the big guy yes I do
um did anyone ever respond to that email
yes they did numerous times Hunter
himself excuse me you're right well
that's important because Hunter B has
claim that he didn't respond to it and
he responded to it you're just going to
filibuster I reclaim my time that's
running out but I will say no one
responded to the big guy reference for1
thank you for making my point they
didn't have to respond because they all
knew the big guy was Jo iclaim my time
Mr chairman please control the witness I
would like to say I would like to uh get
a little extra time Mr chairman because
I want to read what Mr gilear said to
the Wall Street Journal quote I would
like to clear up any speculation that
former vice president was involved with
the 2017 discussions about our potential
business structure I am unaware of any
involvement at any time of the former
vice president the activity in question
never delivered and project Revenue N9
days later the agreement without Joe
Biden was signed you and James gilear
Wanted Joe Biden involved and that is
why Hunter Biden dumped you and did the
business BL Li Mr Know Better Chairman's
times
expired chair now recognizes Mr Higgins
from Louisiana for five minutes thank
you Mr chairman Mr Bob Alinsky
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