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they suck or do it what they're terrible

they are why are you booing me I'm

right okay we have to be okay start over

Okay professionals professionals all

right wait can we do a breaking new

SpongeBob fish is that breaking new I

feel like that would be that' be fun you

have to say it like the fish that

sideways

[Laughter]

and it's hard to do I say let's be

professional Marquez goes wait can we do

a breaking news

Bunch that's professional he's got like

a I'm sure he's got a suit on or

something all right what is up people of

the internet welcome back to another

episode of the waveform podcast where

your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and

I'm David and this week we've got let's

see Mr Beast starting a show on Amazon

Prime I have some thoughts on that

that's kind of interesting idea that's

happening uh huge Apex Legends hacking

Scandal pixel 8A leaks and apple POS

using a Google product in the iPhone and

we're going to end with a fun game that

I triggered my Google when I said that

we're going to end with a fun game that

Adam is calling wish list it's really

good you're not going to want to miss it

oh and also we have a correction from

last

week I just saw that uh last week last

week we were con someone convinced me

that the ozone layer was close the hole

was it way we're working CL it seems

like there's not even one hole like

there's several holes and they're all in

varying degree we we really got like

every single part of the ozone layer not

every most of them not every single the

correction is the hole is not closed

yeah please stop using aerosols if you

if you heard that last episode and went

outside with spray cans I started

spraying them all over the place that

was probably not the move so but we are

we're are we are working on closing it

and approximately by 2045 based on our

sources it should be

closed keep working

everyone more than that statement that

was just based on information we found

I'm just I'm staying out of the whole

ozone debate we're working towards it

there's a hole trying we don't want to

possibly holes my favorite thing is that

we use that and I put that as like the

intro for the clip last month and

immediately the comments were all you

lovely people informing us apologize

which was great I love that yall have

our back like that I don't mean to

misinform

so information other news now know yeah

congrats to Marquez for making the

ultimate frisbee USA worlds

team wa so is that the actual Olympics

team so there's no Olympics team this is

like a this is a young sport that wishes

they we were in the Olympics they have

skateboarding wtim fris I we have break

dancing we have what we have all kind

hey let's not on other sports yeah I

don't want to start that honestly I'd

rather on Ultimate for and ultimate

ultimate has been like a final tender

with the Olympic Committee for the past

two or three Olympics now very confusing

aspect of that there's many committees

yes to to put it simply this is the team

the teams that the United States is

putting together to represent the

country in an international competition

where every other country also puts

together a team to represent their

country and then we all go to Australia

in in September and try to beat every

other team whoa whoa wo September

September no Marquez brutal wait what

nothing Tech happens in September I

didn't know that part yeah it's the

first week of September um hopefully

nothing Apple if you're listening right

now people say that I sound enough like

you that we could probably have me can

we deep fake me do the reviews and just

deep fake you actually you know the

iPhone comes out first in Australia yeah

that's true maybe we just stay there

this is really funny I was looking for a

reason to go to Australia many many

times a long time ago and at one point

the team crispy crew which was like me

judner Austin John and Lou all thought

it would be probably kind of a cool idea

to go to the earliest possible time zone

Apple Store in the world and be the

first ones to unbox a retail iPhone

which I think would have been like one

of the coasts of Australia would have

been the first one and so we almost

started to plan that and then said never

mind then realize everything there can

kill you well and also now embargos

exists

other plans are made but you know I've

never been to Australia I'm looking

forward to it and the team is really

sick is it your Sydney that you're going

to do you know it's Gold Coast oh yeah

is that on the Eastern side let me just

Google that real quick gold well since

we have definitely talked about Marquez

playing for USA teams you played for and

world games you've played USA Beach

worlds where you represented USA for

beach tournament and you played

something called WG correct which is the

world games w

that is the world games and you

represented a US team but it's based on

the club team that won the US

Championship so it's this is actual just

picking people from the US and creating

a team yeah this one had a specific try

out process and then a selection

committee to select the Team USA teams

how do you try out do they just watch

you play and they're like that guy has

some nice vertical hide yeah you you

have to get invited to a tryy out okay

so there's 200 invite

um and it's a long story because I

initially was not invited to try out and

then I was a late added invite when

other people couldn't make it weight

listed yeah so Mar I got weight listed

for college but then they didn't

actually end up selecting me after I got

we listed yeah do you guys not get

Marquez brownley frisbee highlight

compilation shorts on your YouTube feed

I get a lot of them I don't I've

probably seen all of them already I get

them sometimes but it's usually from the

ADL and they're just they make them for

all the players I get them for like all

sorts of things and they always have the

same caption that kind of rubs me the

wrong way no offense Marquez but it's

always like Marquez brownley better at

frisbee than YouTube and I'm like yeah

watch it it's my boss you're talking

about here you also don't have to

compare them like that they're very

different things yeah they're extremely

different my favorite actually couldn't

be any further ofart than marquez's

vertical height does not matter when

he's on camera there was a very funny

arttic there's a an ultimate frisbee

like blog website called ulti world and

I remember back when we played with each

other on Hammerhead so like 2013 there

was at the same time a very good

ultimate player who started a YouTube

channel based on Ultimate and like

amassed a pretty solid following his

name was Brody Smith and then ultiworld

made an article that's like the biggest

frisbee YouTuber isn't who you think it

is and then it was about Marquez talking

about nothing about ultimate but Tech

but how much bigger he was than Brody

back then was very weird article a

very read that like yeah I guess

Honestly though fire title it that's I'm

clicking that I want to read the biggest

ultimate YouTuber isn't who I think it

is because I don't think anything about

that I have no idea I I've never had

that fun well if you're if you're

reading ultiworld decom you're probably

thinking if you're in that specific

audience yeah no that'll be hopefully uh

not too crazy of a Time speaking of um

being a beast on the field here we go

Segway I was trying to do the segue

you're trying to what do the segue to

the first I'm interested where this is

going though cuz I'm confused Mr Beast

oh that was I'm an idiot pretty good I

thought it was pretty good I thought

that was

smart uh apparently is launching an

Amazon Prime TV series that is supposed

to be the biggest game show in the world

biggest single cash prize I think okay

from any in the history of TV and

streaming I guess it's one of those

things where you say biggest in the

world you don't know what you're compar

big biggest you like a LeBron stat they

were trying to just have the biggest

cash prize the biggest single cash priz

which is I think $5 million right M

pretty sick which I'm surprised that

that's the biggest cash prize me too

kind of I thought it would be bigger it

is weird that they say single cash prize

so Wants To Be A Millionaire so what is

like $1 million today or $5 million

today is probably about $1 million when

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire came out

like adjusted for inflation do you

remember the first guy who ever won Who

Wants To Be A Millionaire he went

through the entire thing and didn't use

a single Lifeline until the last

question where he used phone a friend

called his dad and said I'm going to win

a million dollars and then won the

million dollar it was the most baller

move in like game show history wait uh I

have up here uh James huser holh Hower

the Jeopardy Legend won $4.5 million but

that's not a single cash prize cuz it

was over the course of is insane wind

yeah that guy is insane that does make

sense yeah um anyway yeah it's it's

going to be very interesting it's it's

kind of crazy to see a YouTuber moving

onto traditional media now and it's kind

of weird to think about that because in

my opinion I think traditional media

needs to move more towards YouTube style

media and not the other way around so

that's an interesting way of phrasing it

cuz I think and I started to watch the

Colin and Samir interview that they just

did with him in which he starts to talk

about this a little bit I didn't finish

yet so I will say that but go watch that

but I think he might not consider it

traditional media quite all the way on

the other side of the spectrum obviously

YouTube we know what that is and we know

what Jimmy does on YouTube and then

there's traditional media which is like

movies films TV and then somewhere in

the middle there's like web shows and I

think what they're giving Jimmy the

opportunity to do is unlimited budget

crazy eest possible Concepts and takes

the restrictions of this has to fit in a

YouTube title and thumbnail off of it so

you can do even crazier things that

don't necessarily have to perform for a

title and thumbnail and yeah Beast games

sounds really cool I just think that's

it's kind of somewhere in the middle of

not quite YouTube not quite traditional

but still works with I feel like I would

almost argue it's more towards

traditional I know it's like streaming

but I I think we're at the point now

where traditional media is on streaming

and like Prime is certainly trying to be

more like that but I just think they're

actually picking a good basis of the

show that is closer to what he normally

does so it doesn't feel that out of the

blue like we've seen YouTubers go to

traditional media it was who started a

talk show there's been tons of there was

you're probably thinking of ly saying L

yeah a talk show and I like that didn't

do quite as well I mean I'm sure it's

still did fine but we don't hear about

it quite as much anymore this is like

completely taking what Mr Beast does

which is like pit people against each

other for a ton of money and it makes

sense as a game show and it fits well in

this category but I think Prime would

not be happy if you you called them a

web show they definitely want to be

considered closer to Legacy Media and

like watching on your TV on the prime

app or something like that I think this

was uh I don't care if you make Amazon M

but just saying I think uh format wise

this was like several hours per

competition

instead of one like a Mr Beast video

might be 15 minutes long and it's over

and the whole character Arc is in 15

minutes I think this would be like

several EP series I think that sounds

really cool kind of like a Love is Blind

love Island kind of thing except not

romantic yeah like they do a bunch of

like series I think are cool and that's

why it feels more towards Legacy Media

right um and who says it can't be

romantic there's nothing against the

Romantic there are thousand people there

chances that people are attracted to

each other are quite I'm trying to

figure out what makes it Legacy is it

just because of the platform per on I

think a series based game show like

feels more Legacy than no you disagree

with me no sorry I'm stuck on the idea

of like going to a nice dinner party and

like someone serves you like a you know

roast chicken and then you're like how'd

you guys meet you're like oh we were

contestants on Beast games I mean not

say I'm pretty sure Mr Beast already did

a thing where two people were locked in

a room and I don't they kept talking

afterwards I don't want to start but

jimm Mr Beast locked us in our room 100

days I think it was a funny sentence he

said he was on the show he's like you're

probably wondering why I'm wearing a

hazmat suit it's because I have two

people trapped in something for like 100

days and I was like that's a casual

sentence that only you could say in this

exact situation sometimes he sounds like

the guy from Saw or Mr Burns yeah

gots I I think that this deal makes a

ton of sense for Amazon though because

they they now can have all of the kids

on the planet be like Mom Mom I want to

watch this but we need Amazon Prime we

need Prime video this is what Spotify

thought they were doing with Joe Rogan

right yeah ex it worked it's exclusive

content yeah on a platform with a talent

that is really really in high demand

yeah and so people are going to be

attracted to go find that content and

the only way to do it is to join

Amazon's service yeah well that's what

they want I think one other interesting

thing in there is at first one you said

that I was like a lot of us have Amazon

Prime already but didn't we just talk a

few weeks ago about how they're going do

the like either put ads in it or it's

another like $3 a month so now they make

a lot more money from the ad release

that Banger in there and then there's a

new way of making money recently great a

great great point because yeah I would

actually you would think that the Target

demographic for the show is probably

going to be younger kids and if they're

younger kids they probably have parents

and if they have parents they probably

have Amazon Prime there's a lot of

people in the US that have Amazon Prime

yeah yeah but now that they put ads in

the content they get to milk all that ad

money oh is there mid rolls They just

added ads to Amazon Prime content this

is a trivia question question it's 3

minutes per half an hour of content I

believe I don't remember what um yeah

they added ads for Prime video now so

you can not pay any more and now you get

about 3 minutes per half an hour of ads

during watching streaming content on

Prime video or you can pay $3 more a

month and then you get no ads which is

wild cuz Amazon Prime already cost a

quite a bit they've been slow is Amazon

Prime right it's like 15 how much

hundred something a year I thought it

was like close well let's just look it

up before I guess 30 times $140 up

before we guess what the ozone is around

around 10 12 bucks a month which is like

around the same as YouTube premium maybe

within a couple dollars of each other a

month it is and you get the like

shipping benefits but I would argue

Prime vide library is listen there's

some good stuff on Prime video but it's

nowhere near as good as Netflix or or

music which is really good actually I

don't use it but it's really good really

really I don't trying to remember what

makes it good there was something that

they did recently it's either the

catalog or the app and I don't think

there's any other options it's something

about the catalog okay go ahead Ellis oh

I was just thinking you know in the

current streaming space there's now like

so many players that it's actually like

a reasonably hard like uh field of

competitors to like differentiate

yourself from so I think it's might be

actually in Amazon's favor for people to

think of this more as a web show because

now all of a sudden Amazon is the

platform that has the stuff that

everyone else has like movies and TV and

they have this other tier that was

previously like solely occupied by

YouTube I think that's a really good

point the differentiate whether you

think it's a web show or Legacy or

anything is totally what they're going

for because a lot of other streaming

platforms are more after than Prime

despite most people having prime already

Okay the reason Prime music is good yeah

is because it is part of prime and it

basically has all of the same features

as

Spotify and it doesn't have ads so it's

basically like having Spotify Premium

built into built into your Prime

subscription just like no one really

knows about it and because it's Amazon

I'm guessing the ux is dog water

and and if you want to like send a song

to your friend they have to be like what

oh wait I have Amazon Prime I can listen

to this I ain't buying this song yeah

but they have podcast stations and songs

at no extra cost so I think my biggest

question is because they said Jimmy will

be the executive producer of this I'm is

is he gonna be the host did he mention

that in the cons don't I didn't get that

far but I imagine he'd be hosting I

would imagine the host and then I wonder

how much more he'll have to do with it

because he clearly loves his own channel

and I think that's his first priority so

I'm I just when we work with Legacy

Media or like more normal production

Crews it's very different for us and a

very slow process and as a YouTuber

that's so much different and kind of

frustrating sometimes frustrating so

like I'm assuming I'm wondering how much

he's going to have to do with it because

that feels like he'll take a significant

chunk out of his time I think that's

going to be the most annoying thing to

Jimmy specifically knowing Jimmy is how

quickly and efficiently he is able to

shoot the reality is like it's

unscripted content and it's just an idea

and once it's going you're just shooting

everything trying to do that with Amazon

with a crew that's not his I imagine and

with big ideas that this crew is not

used to shooting the lawyers the latency

is going to be so so frustrating but

hopefully worth it because I think he's

got a bag and he's got a lot of ideas

that he wants to do cool things with

this so I'm sure it's going to be worth

it in the end but that's going to be the

thing that's probably one thing I keep

thinking about with Mr Beast in

particular is he's mentioned multiple

times how he's gotten to the point now

with his channel where he can't find

sponsors big enough willing to like pay

for his videos which is one of the

reasons why febles is like so important

to him who got the better end of this

deal Jimmy I agree Amazon or Jimmy

Amazon loves throwing money at things

that don't fully work just spoke about

how no one really cares about Amazon

Prime like streaming you know so like

now they have Mr Beast they're trying a

win for Amazon is probably converting

some number of people to being new Prime

subscribers for a long time and I when I

when you ask that question I go back to

like who won The Joe Rogan Spotify deal

I'd say Joe Rogan I mean it's 100

million dollar yeah to a company that

can afford that yeah so I think it

really worked out for Spotify too I was

cuz that deal just expired I think just

like a few weeks ago just got renewed

right yeah it got renewed but I think

that he's available on other platforms

now it's not exclusive anymore yeah so

now it's like they're still paying him

to be on the platform and it's almost

like the rest of the the ation around

that was also earned media attention for

Spotify oh definitely and maybe some of

that is the same for Jimmy like Jimmy is

now talking about Amazon Prime right and

who knows how much that would have cost

them so for Joe Rogan it's like $100

million is a $100 million but yeah you

know for Spotify I think it was a really

big thing too because it a lot of the

time when I ask people like oh do you

listen to podcast they're like yeah and

I send them a pocketcast link and

they're like what is this I use Spotify

it seems like a lot of people use

Spotify for podcast Spotify for all my

podcast is pretty crazy I also want to

make a quick Amendment on that Amazon

Prime music the free one that comes with

your Prime subscription okay you can't

select songs it's like Shuffle only

playlist just like spotif it's just

Pandora no that's Spotify free does that

you literally can't like play through

are you kidding me it's one of the most

pointless products I personally don't I

couldn't do that okay so it's basically

Spotify free except it doesn't have ads

which is nice okay but that is crazy

I've wow I've never had Spotify free

except when it first came out yeah

that's nuts yeah me a

rich I paid $2 a month for it yeah one

of the one of these2 one of these

Twitter threads came up of like here's a

list of the best money I ever spent and

I was thinking about that like what's

the best money I ever spent and the two

things at the top of my list are one

expensive thing and one not expensive

thing yeah lasic is the best money I've

ever spent for sure and YouTube premium

is the best which is expensive in

comparison to every other like streaming

service it's very expensive however time

is money the number of ads I don't have

to skip is crazy cuz I log into the

autofocus account to upload and I'll be

like uploading while browsing in the

background and there's there's just so

many ads well occasionally I will go on

YouTube in incognito mode because I

don't want it to affect my algorithm

when I'm like doing research and stuff

and the experience of not having YouTube

premium is insane I cannot believe that

people do that every day and I imagine

that has just gotten worse and worse and

worse over time yeah I can vouch for

that being my top two yeah it's

expensive but it's like probably the

best quality of life purchase you can

make yeah yeah no I agree so actually

the thing I'm going to talk about later

is similar it's way too expensive and I

could never not use it anymore but we'll

get to that at the end of the episode

okay cool um one more quick story before

our first ad break no you no no no no

you need a segue right that was my seg

that's no come on I feel like we we're

reaching the Apex of this episode

yeah well that's you asked for it man I

don't I'm just hacking around here

we don't know where we're getting

hacking around I I'm not I'm no Legend

of Segways but I see what you um that

was three segs I know and now I just

don't even want to talk about it

trivia um so there's kind of an an

interesting story that I just want to

touch on quickly um you guys all know

the game Apex Legends mhm it like really

popular a few years ago it still is very

popular but maybe not quite as much it

was in the whole Battle Royale crazy

it's like it's fortnite with more

running it's it's over it's OverWatch

it's Titanfall running it's Titanfall

Battle Royale is what it all of these

mean nothing to me well one of them's

right and it's me it's kind of OverWatch

right and it's also kind of DOTA I could

see it it's not do I mean you're they

all have skills they all have skills

which yes I'll give you that one um it

anyway so it's it's a battle royale game

everyone knows of a battle royale game

right is like x amount of people drop

last one wins fortnite corre um so they

were having the North American reg or

finals I believe and in the middle of

the finals a bunch of people who were

streaming their games just started

hacking out of nowhere so like a things

were going on their screens where they

can all of a sudden see everybody on the

map they were having Aimbot so their gun

just like was automatically shooting and

shooting people perfectly in the head

every time and like at first when it