Brooks and Capehart on Trump's guilty verdict and what's next for American politics

Political analysis with David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart
31 May 202412:35

Summary

TLDRIn a historic and solemn moment, former U.S. President Donald Trump was found guilty on all felony counts, marking the first time a former president has faced such a conviction. The unanimous jury verdict has significant implications for American politics and the Republican Party, which currently supports Trump as their presumptive nominee. The swift response from Trump's campaign, raising $34.8 million within 24 hours of the verdict, indicates his strategy to rally supporters by portraying himself as a political martyr. The discussion also highlights concerns about the integrity of American institutions and the potential impact on the upcoming election, with some Republicans calling for the Supreme Court to intervene, while others defend the justice system against accusations of bias.

Takeaways

  • 🗳️ Donald Trump has become the first former American president to be convicted of a felony, marking a significant moment in U.S. history.
  • 🎥 The news was initially expected to be delayed but was delivered swiftly, leading to a solemn day reflecting on the state of the country.
  • 🏛️ Despite personal opinions, the unanimous guilty verdict by a jury of peers on all counts highlights the importance of the rule of law and the accountability of political figures.
  • 🤔 There is a concern about the implications for the Republican Party and the potential for a more 'upright' candidate to reflect the party and the country's values.
  • 💰 Trump's campaign claims to have raised $34.8 million within 24 hours of the verdict, indicating that the incident might rally his supporters and could influence independent voters.
  • 🕊️ Nixon's resignation due to a sense of shame contrasts with Trump's situation, who has been impeached twice and now faces a felony conviction.
  • 🔍 The discussion suggests that the political impact of the conviction might be marginal, with core supporters remaining loyal and others unlikely to change their stance.
  • 📢 Biden's response to the verdict emphasizes the importance of the justice system and the right to appeal, while cautioning against undermining the system based on personal disagreement with the outcome.
  • 👥 There is a debate among Republicans about the legitimacy of the case against Trump, with some suggesting the Supreme Court should intervene, which has been criticized as dangerous and unprecedented.
  • 📈 The script suggests that substance and policy, rather than personal attacks, are more effective strategies against populist figures, as seen in global consensus.
  • 🔊 The reaction among Republicans to the verdict has been strong, with some expressing concern that it undermines faith in the justice system and equality under the law.

Q & A

  • What significant event occurred involving Donald Trump as mentioned in the transcript?

    -Donald Trump became the first former American president to be convicted of a felony.

  • What was the unanimous decision made by the jury regarding Donald Trump?

    -The jury found Donald Trump guilty on all counts.

  • How did the guests on the show feel about the verdict?

    -The guests had mixed feelings; some felt elated because Trump was being held accountable, while others felt crestfallen about what it says about the current state of the country.

  • What did the discussion suggest about the Republican party's view on moral character?

    -The discussion suggested that moral character, which was once a pillar of conservatism, is being questioned due to the situation involving a former president paying hush money.

  • What was the significance of the jury's behavior during the trial as described in the transcript?

    -The jury's behavior, including their serious demeanor and reverence towards the judge, highlighted the importance of institutions and the rule of law.

  • How did the discussion frame the potential impact of the verdict on Donald Trump's supporters?

    -The discussion suggested that the verdict might rally his supporters by portraying him as a political martyr, which is a central theme of his campaign.

  • What was the reported fundraising amount for Trump's campaign after the verdict?

    -The campaign reported raising $34.8 million in less than 24 hours since the verdict came down.

  • What comparison was made between Donald Trump and Richard Nixon in the context of their responses to legal challenges?

    -Richard Nixon was said to have a sense of shame, resigning from office to avoid impeachment, whereas Donald Trump has been impeached twice and continues to fight the legal challenges.

  • What was the general sentiment among the Republican party regarding the case against Donald Trump?

    -Some Republicans, including Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell, suggested that the case should not have been brought and that the Supreme Court should step in, indicating a strong defense of Trump.

  • What strategy was suggested as effective against populist leaders like Donald Trump?

    -The strategy suggested was to offer substance and programs that are in the interests of the people, rather than resorting to name-calling or replicating the populist's style.

  • What was the panel's view on the role of the Supreme Court in the case involving Donald Trump?

    -The panel found the suggestion for the Supreme Court to step in as reprehensible and dangerous, emphasizing the importance of respecting the jury system and the rule of law.

Outlines

00:00

🏛 Trump's Conviction and Its Impact on American Politics

The first paragraph discusses the unprecedented event of former U.S. President Donald Trump being convicted of a felony. It highlights the solemnity of the moment, the potential implications for Trump's political future, and the broader impact on American institutions. The discussion includes the reactions of various political figures and the public's perception of the justice system. It also touches on the significant amount of money raised by Trump's campaign following the verdict, suggesting that the conviction might rally his supporters and possibly influence independent voters.

05:02

🗳️ The Reaction to Trump's Conviction Among Republicans and the Public

In the second paragraph, the focus shifts to the reactions within the Republican Party and the general public to Trump's conviction. It presents the views of those who believe the justice system was used for a political attack, and those who support Trump's narrative of being persecuted by the system. The paragraph also includes commentary on how this event might affect the upcoming elections, with some suggesting that the verdict could energize Trump's base while others argue it may have a marginal political effect. The discussion also includes President Biden's response, emphasizing the importance of respecting the justice system and not dismissing the verdict as rigged.

10:03

👥 Top Republicans' Response to Trump's Conviction

The third paragraph delves into the responses from top Republicans regarding Trump's conviction. It presents the controversial opinions of Mike Johnson, who suggests that the U.S. Supreme Court should intervene, and Mitch McConnell, who believes the case should never have been brought. The paragraph discusses the potential danger of undermining the jury system and the core principles of justice in the United States. It also addresses the concern that such reactions could diminish public faith in the legal system and the importance of maintaining the integrity of American institutions.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Convicted Felon

A convicted felon is a person who has been found guilty of a felony, which is a serious crime in the legal system. In the context of the video, it refers to Donald Trump, a former American president, who was found guilty on all counts, making him a convicted felon. This is significant as it is the first time a former U.S. president has faced such a conviction.

💡Republican Party

The Republican Party is one of the two major political parties in the United States, often associated with conservative policies. In the video, it is mentioned that Trump is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party for the presidency, indicating his current standing within the party despite the conviction.

💡Accountability

Accountability refers to the obligation to report, explain, and be responsible for one's actions. In the video, the concept is highlighted by the fact that Trump is being held accountable for his actions through the legal process, which is seen by some as a positive development for the rule of law.

💡Hush Money

Hush money is a term used to describe payments made to silence someone, often to prevent them from revealing damaging information. In the script, it is mentioned that the case against Trump involved paying hush money to a porn star, which is a key element of the charges against him.

💡Institutions

Institutions refer to established organizations or systems, such as the judiciary, that are part of the societal framework. The video discusses the power of institutions to safeguard society and the potential attack on these institutions by Trump's actions and the reactions to his conviction.

💡Political Martyr

A political martyr is someone who is perceived to have suffered or been punished for their political beliefs or actions. In the video, Trump is described as portraying himself as a political martyr, using his conviction as a way to rally his supporters and frame himself as a victim of a political attack.

💡Fundraising

Fundraising in the political context refers to the process of collecting financial support for a campaign or cause. The video mentions that Trump's campaign raised a significant amount of money following the verdict, suggesting that his conviction may have galvanized his base.

💡Sense of Shame

A sense of shame is an awareness of wrongdoing and the feeling of humiliation or disgrace that accompanies it. The video contrasts Trump with Richard Nixon, who resigned due to a sense of shame, whereas Trump has been impeached twice and convicted without resigning.

💡Populism

Populism is a political approach that seeks to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups. The video discusses how Trump is not the only populist in the world and how global consensus suggests that substance over style is a more effective strategy against populist leaders.

💡Justice System

The justice system encompasses the institutions and processes involved in administering justice, including law enforcement, courts, and corrections. The video emphasizes the importance of the justice system in handling the case against Trump and the need for it to be seen as fair and impartial.

💡Supreme Court

The Supreme Court is the highest court in the United States and has the final say on matters of law and constitutional interpretation. The video mentions a suggestion by a Republican figure that the Supreme Court should step in, reflecting concerns about the case's impact on the justice system.

Highlights

Donald Trump becomes the first former American president to be convicted of a felony.

The significance of a former and potentially future president being found guilty.

The verdict was unanimous by the jury on all counts.

Trump's conviction could impact his candidacy for the Republican Party's nomination.

The case revolves around Trump paying hush money to a porn star.

The power of institutions to safeguard society is highlighted.

Jurors are described as taking their responsibilities very seriously.

Concerns about an attack on American institutions, including the Defense Department and Attorney General's Office.

Trump portrays himself as a political martyr, which is a central theme of his campaign.

Trump's campaign raised $34.8 million in less than 24 hours following the verdict.

The impact of the verdict on Trump's base and independent voters.

Comparison between Trump and Nixon, with Nixon having a sense of shame leading to his resignation.

Trump's narrative that the system is broken and out to get people.

Biden's comments on the verdict, emphasizing the American system of justice.

Democratic operative suggests litigating the case against Trump in the election campaign.

Biden's restrained approach to the situation, focusing on justice system versus Trump.

Global consensus on dealing with populist leaders, emphasizing substance over name-calling.

Top Republicans' reactions, with some suggesting the Supreme Court should step in.

Concerns about the erosion of faith in the American justice system and the need for equal justice under the law.

Republican reactions described as reprehensible and dangerous to the legal system.

Transcripts

00:07

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00:07

DONALD TRUMP BECOME THE FIRST

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FORMER AMERICAN PRESIDENT TO BE

00:10

CONVICTED OF A FELONY.

00:16

WE TURNED TO THE ANALYSIS OF OUR

00:17

GUESTS.

00:20

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

00:20

HERE.

00:22

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REFLECT ON

00:24

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS MOMENT.

00:27

A FORMER AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE

00:28

PRESIDENT FOUND GUILTY.

00:34

UPON HIS SENTENCING HE WILL

00:36

BECOME A CONVICTED FELON.

00:38

YOU HAVE THE FIRST WORD TONIGHT.

00:43

>> YESTERDAY WAS A SURPRISING

00:44

DAY JUST BECAUSE AT ONE MOMENT

00:46

WE WERE TOLD THAT THE JUDGE WILL

00:47

LIVE THE JURY GO.

00:49

AND THEN THE NEXT MINUTE WE HAVE

00:51

A VERDICT.

00:53

YESTERDAY WAS A VERY SOLEMN DAY.

00:56

WHETHER YOU LIKE THE GUY OR NOT,

00:59

THE FACT THAT A FORMER PRESIDENT

01:00

OF THE U.S. WAS FOUND GUILTY ON

01:04

ALL COUNTS UNANIMOUSLY BY A JURY

01:05

OF HIS PEERS AND THAT SAME

01:10

PERSON IS THE PRESUMPTIVE

01:11

NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE

01:13

REPUBLICAN PARTY, FOR THE

01:19

OFFICE, IT WAS SOLEMN.

01:21

R WHERE WE ARE AS A COUNTRY,

01:23

IT WAS A SOLEMN DAY.

01:26

IN THE BEFORE TIMES, HE WOULD NO

01:30

LONGER BE THE CANDIDATE.

01:32

ANOTHER MORE UPRIGHT PERSON

01:37

REFLECTIVE OF THE PARTY AND

01:39

COUNTRY WOULD BECOME THE

01:39

NOMINEE.

01:41

I KNOW HE IS PERFECTLY

01:42

REFLECTIVE OF THE PARTY AS IT IS

01:43

NOW.

01:45

BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE

01:46

BEFORE TIME.

01:50

I WAS ELATED BECAUSE HE IS BEING

01:51

HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

01:53

BUT AT THE SAME TIME I AM A

01:55

LITTLE CRESTFALLEN BECAUSE OF

01:57

WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT WHERE THE

01:59

COUNTRY IS RIGHT NOW.

02:01

>> HOW DOES IT STRIKE YOU?

02:04

>> I WILL GO BACK TO THE BEFORE

02:05

TIMES.

02:12

THERE WERE PILLARS OF

02:13

CONSERVATISM.

02:15

THE FIRST WAS MORAL CHARACTER.

02:17

CHARACTER IS DESTINY.

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WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THE FACT

02:24

THAT THIS CASE WAS ABOUT A

02:29

FORMER PRESIDENT PAYING HUSH

02:30

MONEY TO ACORN STAR.

02:32

-- A PORN STAR.

02:38

THE SECOND IS ABOUT THE POWER OF

02:39

INSTITUTIONS TO SAFEGUARD

02:40

SOCIETY.

02:41

THERE WAS A MOMENT THAT SOME IN

02:42

THE COURTROOM DESCRIBED WHEN THE

02:46

JURY ASKED THE JUDGE TO READ

02:47

BACK SOME OF THE TECHNICAL

02:49

BINARIES OF THE INDICTMENT AND

02:51

THE LAW, APPARENTLY WAS VERY DRY

02:55

AND TECHNOCRATIC LANGUAGE.

02:55

BUT THE MEMBERS OF THE JURY

02:57

LOOKED AT THE JUDGE WITH

02:59

REVERENCE.

03:00

I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND THAT JURIES

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TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES VERY

03:05

SERIOUSLY.

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THIS IS CHARACTER AND

03:09

INSTITUTIONS.

03:10

HE IS A TRANSGRESSOR.

03:14

THE ATTACK ON THE INSTITUTIONS

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WILL BE TO THE DEFENSE

03:17

DEPARTMENT AND THE ATTORNEY

03:18

GENERAL'S OFFICE.

03:20

IT WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE

03:21

ASSAULT ON AMERICAN

03:22

INSTITUTIONS.

03:23

THAT IS WHAT IS AT STAKE.

03:25

CAN THE INSTITUTIONS HOLD?

03:27

>> AS WE REPORTED EARLIER THE

03:31

BROADCAST, DONALD TRUMP SPOKE

03:32

FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES TO

03:34

REPORTERS, FIRING OFF

03:35

GRIEVANCES.

03:38

HE REALLY TRIED TO PORTRAY

03:40

HIMSELF AS A POLITICAL MARTYR.

03:42

THIS IS BEEN A THEME CENTRAL TO

03:43

HIS CAMPAIGN.

03:45

IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS IS AN

03:47

EFFECTIVE WAY TO RALLY HIS

03:48

SUPPORTERS BECAUSE THE CAMPAIGN

03:50

SAYS IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS SINCE

03:52

THE VERDICT CAME DOWN, THEY HAVE

03:56

RAISED $34.8 MILLION.

04:00

HOW WILL THIS PLATE NOT JUST

04:02

WITH HIS BASE BUT WITH

04:04

INDEPENDENT VOTERS AND SOFT FROM

04:05

SUPPORTERS WHO COULD DECIDE THE

04:10

ELECTION.

04:13

>> THIS IS A TIME WILL TELL

04:15

MOMENT.

04:16

WE ARE JUST 24-HOUR'S FROM

04:17

HAVING THIS GUILTY VERDICT.

04:20

WE DON'T KNOW HOW CERTAIN PEOPLE

04:22

ARE GOING TO RESPOND.

04:25

THOSE FOLKS ON THE PERIPHERY OF

04:28

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DON'T LIKE

04:29

HIM AND WHAT HE STANDS FOR.

04:34

WHAT WILL HE SPEND THAT MONEY

04:35

ON?

04:37

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HE'S GETTING

04:38

THE MONEY FROM?

04:41

THE OTHER THING THAT IS MOST

04:48

FASCINATING, PRESIDENT NIXON HAD

04:52

SOMETHING THAT DONALD TRUMP DOES

04:53

NOT HAVE AND THAT IS A SENSE OF

04:55

SHAME.

04:57

RICHARD NIXON HAD ENOUGH OF A

04:58

SENSE OF SHAME THAT HE RESIGNED

05:01

THE OFFICE RATHER THAN BE

05:03

IMPEACHED BECAUSE HE DID NOT

05:06

WANT THE STAIN OF IMPEACHMENT.

05:09

AND YET DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN

05:10

IMPEACHED TWICE.

05:25

>> WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS REVEAL

05:28

ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND THE SPACE

05:29

HE OCCUPIES IN AMERICAN LIFE AND

05:31

THE DEGREE WHICH SHE HAS SHIFTED

05:32

THE CENTER OF OUR POLITICS?

05:34

>> HE TELLS A STORY THAT HE IS

05:37

OUT TO GET YOU.

05:38

THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.

05:40

THAT IS A STORY A LOT OF PEOPLE

05:42

AGREE WITH AND THEY THINK

05:43

YESTERDAY.

05:46

I WAS STRUCK BY MY FRIENDS IN

05:47

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SOME WERE

05:50

TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND SOME WERE

05:51

NOT.

05:52

I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW

05:53

VOCIFEROUS THE RESPONSE WAS.

05:57

THEY SAID THIS WAS TODAY THE

05:58

JUSTICE SYSTEM WAS PERVERTED TO

06:01

LAUNCH A POLITICAL ATTACK.

06:04

THE FUNDAMENTAL INSTITUTIONS OF

06:05

SOCIETY ARE AT A THREAT.

06:06

THEY ARE WAY MORE FIRED UP THAN

06:12

I ANTICIPATED.

06:16

THE POLITICAL EFFECT OF THIS IS

06:18

I SUSPECT IT WILL BE MARGINAL.

06:21

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING

06:22

HIM WILL SUPPORT HIM.

06:25

THEY BUY THAT THE SYSTEM IS OUT

06:26

TO GET THEM.

06:28

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MARGINAL,

06:36

THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO PAY A

06:38

LOT OF ATTENTION TO POLITICS.

06:40

THEY TEND TO BE PEOPLE WHO

06:41

SUPPORTED BIDEN.

06:45

THEY ARE LOW INFORMATION FOR

06:46

COLD VOTERS.

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I DON'T SUSPECT THEY WILL GO

06:50

VERY FAR.

06:52

THE BASIC QUESTION OF THE

06:54

SELECTION IS THE SYSTEM IS

06:56

BROKEN, WE NEED THIS KIND OF

06:59

MATTER HOW BIG OF A JERK HE IS.

07:02

WE NEED THEM TO TAKE IT TO THE

07:03

MAN.

07:06

>> AFTER HIS APPEARANCES

07:06

MORNING, PRESIDENT TRUMP

07:09

DELIVERED -- PRESIDENT BIDEN

07:11

DELIVERED COMMENTS.

07:12

HE HAD THIS TO SAY.

07:14

>> THEY FOUND HIM GUILTY ON ALL

07:19

34 FELONY COUNTS.

07:25

NOW HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

07:27

APPEAL THAT DECISION.

07:28

THAT IS HOW THE AMERICAN SYSTEM

07:29

OF JUSTICE WORKS.

07:32

IT IS RECKLESS AND DANGEROUS AND

07:36

IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO SAY

07:38

THIS WAS RIGGED JUST BECAUSE

07:39

THEY DON'T LIKE THE VERDICT.

07:42

>> I WAS TALKING TO A DEMOCRATIC

07:45

OPERATIVE TODAY WHO SAID THIS IS

07:46

THE TIME THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN

07:49

SHOULD LITIGATE THE CASE AGAINST

07:51

DONALD TRUMP TO SAY YOU MAY HAVE

07:52

CONCERNS ABOUT INFLATION BUT

07:55

WILL YOU REALLY VOTE FOR A

07:56

CONVICTED FELON?

07:59

DO YOU THINK THE CAMPAIGN IS

08:00

DOING ENOUGH?

08:04

>> THE VERDICT HAS ONLY BEEN OUT

08:06

FOR 24 HOURS.

08:07

I AM NOT YELLING AT YOU, I'M

08:09

YELLING AT THE DEMOCRATIC

08:11

OPERATIVE THAT YOU SPOKE TO.

08:14

AND WHO HE REPRESENTS.

08:16

THIS IS SOMETHING DEMOCRATS DO.

08:18

THE STATE OF THE UNION,

08:20

EVERYBODY WAS ELATED.

08:22

NOW WE ARE BACK TO, WHAT IS

08:24

EVERYBODY DOING?

08:27

DID IT SOMETIME.

08:28

I THOUGHT HIS TONE AND WHAT HE

08:29

HAD TO SAY WAS PERFECT BECAUSE

08:34

HE WAS BEING THE GROWN UP IN THE

08:36

ROOM.

08:36

ADD IN THE NATION.

08:39

DEFENDING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND

08:41

SAYING WHAT IS PROPER, RIGHT,

08:44

AND FAIR.

08:44

THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME TO

08:48

LITIGATE THE CASE AGAINST DONALD

08:49

TRUMP.

08:52

HE WILL GIVE THE CAMPAIGN A LOT

08:53

OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

08:56

DEMOCRATS JUST NEED TO CALM

08:57

DOWN.

08:57

[LAUGHTER]

09:01

>> WE REPORTED YESTERDAY THAT

09:02

THE CAMPAIGN, THE ULTIMATE

09:07

DECISION WILL BE MADE BY THE

09:08

VOTERS.

09:12

VOTERS WILL BE VOTING ON THE

09:13

ISSUES.

09:14

HOW DO YOU SEE THAT?

09:17

?

09:18

>> I LIKE THE FACT THAT BIDEN

09:22

HAS BEEN RESTRAINED.

09:24

THIS SHOULD BE THE JUSTICE

09:26

SYSTEM VERSUS DONALD TRUMP.

09:27

THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

09:31

HE IS NOT THE ONLY POPULIST IN

09:33

THE WORLD.

09:34

WE HAVE HAD 20 YEARS OF THIS

09:35

NOW.

09:37

PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD HAVE

09:38

TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DID WE

09:39

BEAT THESE GUYS?

09:42

IF YOU LOOK AT THE GLOBAL

09:45

CONSENSUS, GOING LOW AND CALLING

09:46

HIM NAMES DOES NOT WORK.

09:49

REPLICATING HIS STYLE DOES NOT

09:50

WORK.

09:51

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO

09:54

HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEATEN BACK

09:59

STRONG MEN, THEY GO WITH

10:00

SUBSTANCE.

10:03

I AM NOT FIGHTING ABOUT HIS

10:05

LITTLE GAMES.

10:05

I AM OFFERING YOU A BUNCH OF

10:08

PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN YOUR

10:09

INTERESTS.

10:10

THAT SEEMS TO BE A SMARTER

10:11

STRATEGY.

10:14

>> LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT HOW TOP

10:15

REPUBLICANS ARE VIEWING ALL OF

10:16

THIS.

10:17

MIKE JOHNSON WAS ON FOX

10:20

YESTERDAY AND SUGGESTED THAT THE

10:21

U.S. SUPREME COURT SHOULD STEP

10:22

IN.

10:22

HERE'S WHAT HE SAID.

10:25

>> I DO BELIEVE THE SUPREME

10:28

COURT SHOULD STEP IN.

10:29

THIS IS TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED

10:30

AND IT IS DANGEROUS TO OUR

10:32

SYSTEM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS

10:32

BEFORE.

10:34

THIS IS DIMINISHING THE AMERICAN

10:36

PEOPLE'S FAITH IN OUR SYSTEM OF

10:37

JUSTICE.

10:40

TO MAINTAIN A REPUBLIC, YOU HAVE

10:42

TO BELIEVE THAT JUSTICE IS FAIR.

10:43

THAT THERE IS EQUAL JUSTICE

10:45

UNDER THE LAW.

10:47

THEY DO NOT SEE THAT RIGHT NOW.

10:50

I KNOW THE JUSTICES ON THE COURT

10:51

ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

10:54

>> IT IS NOT JUST HIM, MITCH

11:00

MCCONNELL, WHO HAD A FROSTY

11:02

RELATIONSHIP WITH DONALD TRUMP,

11:03

SAID IN HIS VIEW THIS CASE NEVER

11:05

SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT.

11:07

HOW DO YOU VIEW THE WAYS

11:09

REPUBLICANS ARE CIRCLING THE

11:11

WAGON.

11:14

>> I FIND IT REPREHENSIBLE.

11:18

WHAT SPEAKER JOHNSON SAYS IS AS

11:20

DANGEROUS AS WHAT DONALD TRUMP

11:21

SAID TODAY DURING THE PRESS

11:22

CONFERENCE.

11:26

SPEAKER JOHNSON IS THE SECOND IN

11:27

LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY.

11:29

HE SHOULD BE IF NOT SILENT ON

11:34

THIS AS RESPONSIBLE AND MEASURED

11:36

WHILE DISAGREEING AS THE

11:37

PRESIDENT WAS.

11:40

IN TALKING ABOUT THE CASE.

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IF ANYTHING GIVES ME PAUSE, IT

11:45

IS THE VOCIFEROUS REACTION OF

11:48

REPUBLICANS, ESPECIALLY

11:49

REPUBLICANS WHO IN THE BEFORE

11:51

TIMES WOULD BE SAYING THE EXACT

11:53

OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING

11:53

NO.

11:56

>> I THINK IT IS CRAZY.

12:00

I HAD SOME DOUBTS ABOUT AN

12:03

ELECTED DEMOCRAT PROSECUTOR

12:05

GOING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP IN

12:05

NEW YORK.

12:06

BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE JURY

12:08

SYSTEM SERIOUSLY.

12:11

TRUMP WAS CONVICTED ON 34 COUNTS

12:13

BY A JURY.

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THAT IS THE CORE OF OUR LEGAL

12:15

SYSTEM.

12:17

FOR JOHNSON TO WAIVE THAT ASIDE

12:19

AND SAY BETTER, THAT SOUNDS LIKE

12:22

POLITICS TO ME.

12:24

>> THANK YOU BOTH.

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