Biden Special Counsel Robert Hur Speaks Out, Reveals New Details, with Dave Aronberg and Mike Davis

Robert Herr goes before Hur you know how

it bothers me goes before the uh house

Judiciary Committee and gets questioned

about this report that we know Joe Biden

did not much like here's a little bit

from his opening statement defending

himself because of course the president

was unhappy about the characterization

uh characterizations on his memory in

that report It's s one the evidence and

the president himself put his memory

squarely at issue we interviewed the

president and asked him about his

recorded statement I just found all the

classified stuff downstairs end quot he

told us that he didn't remember saying

that to his Ghost Rider he also said he

didn't remember finding any classified

material in his home after his vice

presidency and he didn't remember

anything about how classified documents

about Afghanistan made their way into

his

garage my assessment in the report about

the relevance of the president's memory

was necessary

and accurate and fair most importantly

what I wrote is what I believe the

evidence shows and what I expect jurors

would perceive and believe I did not

sanitize my explanation nor did I

disparage the president

unfairly so um what do you make of that

Mike because it did seem pretty

uncontroversial to me that in

Prosecuting a case in which he had to

prove willfulness or at least that's the

standard he was going going with put

holding himself to the most difficult

standard possible there's been some

criticism that he didn't need to do that

it was a lower bar but in any event he

said my task was to determine whether

the president retained or disclosed

National Defense information willfully

meaning knowingly with the attempt to do

something the law forbids I couldn't

make that determination without

assessing his state of

mind yeah so Robert her's investigative

team they found six stashes of Biden's

stolen classified records

uh from his time as vice president and

even as his from his time as a senator I

don't know how you explain that because

that means you'd have to take the

classified records out of the Senate

skiff these records were moved several

times they were

unguarded for years they were accessible

to a Chinese National employed by the

bidens and as Miranda divine reported in

the New York Post they look like some of

these classified records were used by

Hunter Biden to draft a

23o memo uh to secure barisma funding

for the bidens but then Robert her so

we've established it looks like that

President Trump willfully took and kept

so he willfully retains these National

Security documents these classified

records but Robert Herr declined to

bring charges against uh Biden because

Robert H says he can't prove there

there's doubt whether he can prove

willfulness because of Biden's faulty

memory I think that Robert her to put it

legally save Biden's ass here and the

Democrats are Furious because Robert

Herr stated what everyone already knows

which is Biden has a declining mental

States Dave what did you make of it

going be back with you make in Mike you

know I was expecting that the Democrats

would go after Robert her and I was

surprised that the Republicans went

after him more than the Democrats this

is why we live in different Bubbles and

as a Democrat people on my side have

been outraged by the fact that her

included what seemed to be gratuitous

comments about Joe Biden's memory and it

looks like according to the latest

reports with the transcript that has

come out that Biden did know the exact

date that his son died so uh her seemed

to he didn't know the year not well knew

the day he knew the exact dates and then

as far as the year he said when the date

requires a year when they say Dave when

were you what is the date on which you

were born you don't just get to say May

first well then when her said 2015 I

said wow was it 2015 that could be taken

different ways that could be taken as

man I SP a time I'm telling

you but but here's the thing I I was

surprised that the Republicans are going

after him more because Democrats are

displeased with him which shows you that

we're so divided that you can try to

please everyone you'll please no one

meric Garland that's a lesson for you

but so far I just the key thing here is

that Robert her has ex has emphasized

that it's not the possession of the

documents that'll get you charged it's

the refusal give him back and that's

what separates Biden from Donald Trump

all right you're going to make me go

through the transcript aren't you

because the transcript we haven't

actually seen it of Robert her and Joe

Biden but apparently it's 250 Pages the

New York Times revie vied what they

described as a lightly redacted copy of

it so we're getting excerpts from them

um they published this section Biden

well um I I I I don't know this is what

2017 2018 that area where's the the

preceding question I had this written

down someplace um where they're getting

into it and the question to him from

Robert her I'll find it but in any event

he was asking Joe Biden oh here it is

her press Joe Biden where he kept papers

related to work he did after leaving the

vice presidency in January 2017 okay so

that makes sense Biden leaves the U the

vice presidency of course Obama left the

presidency and in January 17 Trump was

sworn in um so her is asking him where'd

you keep your papers relating to the

work you did after you left the vice

presidency and Biden's response is well

um I I I I I don't know this is what

2017 2018 that area her yes sir Biden

remember in this time frame my son is

either been deployed or is dying and so

it was and by the way there were still a

lot of people at the time when I got out

of the Senate that were encouraging me

to run in this period except the

president I'm not not a mean thing to

say he just thought she had a better

shot of winning the presidency than I

did and so I hadn't I hadn't at this

point even though I'm at Penn I hadn't

walked away from the idea that I may run

for office again but if I ran again I'd

be running for president and and so what

was happening though what month what

month did Bo die oh God May 30th

interrupting here may uh R Rachel cotton

a White House lawyer 2015 unidentified

male speaker 2015 Biden was it 2015 he

had died unidentified male speaker it

was May of 2015 Biden it was 2015 Robert

Bower Biden's personal lawyer I'm not

sure of the month sir but I think that

was the year mark crical uh hers Deputy

that's right Mr President it Biden and

what's happened in the meantime is that

as and As Trump gets elected in 20 in

November 2017 this is a question from

Joe Biden Trump gets elected in November

of 2017 unidentified male speaker 2016

unidentified male speaker 16 Biden 16

2016 all right so why do I have 2017

here that's when you left office says Ed

csll his White House counsil January of

2017 Biden yeah okay but that's when

Trump gets sworn in January cisal right

bow right Biden okay yeah and in 2017 Bo

had passed okay

Dave I there is nothing in that that

suggests Biden is recalling anything I

mean you could see you what month first

he doesn't know what month did B

then he remembers May 30th then two

people have to remind him 2015 then he

says was it 2015 then he was told yeah

it was May of 15 then Biden says okay it

was 2015 then they're still trying to

help him I'm not sure the month but I

think it was that year yes that's right

what happened in the meantime Trump gets

elected in November of 20 he doesn't

know when Trump got elected November of

2017 hello no it wasn't November of 2017

the whole world knows it was November of

16

Dave

oh well is that a question that's my

question that's my question Dave come

on well like as I said when you he knew

May 30th he got that date and then he as

far as wasn't sure about the year and

then he was surprised a little bit about

the Year yes so you you can get for that

but you know when we continue to harp on

Joe Biden being seen out and all that

stuff what that does is lower the

expectations so much so that when he

gives a really strong State of the Union

speech all of a sudden he meets and

exceeds those low expect

so you got to be careful what you ask

for here and as far as what Robert herd

did yeah I I just think as a prosecutor

you focus on the issue of did Joe Biden

commit a crime he said no he did not and

then you move on and instead he came out

with this hundreds of pages of stuff

that was now being used politically and

I think that oversteps his

bounds okay I I understand your feeling

but I I don't think that's what happened

at all I think he he did need to explain

why he wasn't charging him I understand

Republicans are mad about the standard

they said you know you held him to to

high a standard the burden of proof was

lower but her is saying I had in my mind

I my understanding was I had to prove

willfulness and I can't do it with a

daughtering man who has a poor memory

and it doesn't mean that you always

forget everything it's just there's oh

look there's a doggy visiting Dave um

who's that you see Getty oh sorry sweet

sweet dog see there you

go let's talk about we need to guest our

appearance today um okay so anyway

here's the here's the real shocker to me

Mike we'd heard something about this but

to see it actually you know come out Joe

Biden came out there and misled us all

he misled us all the day the her report

hit Joe Biden came out and said this is

you know offensive remember because he

was on his heels it said he was this

like you know well-meaning elderly man

with a poor memory so he held that

impromptu press conference tried to

prove to us all that he still had it

together and then he confused Ali as the

president of Mexico and so on and uh in

that press conference he feigned

indignation that's my characterization

based on the news we've seen here about

how it was allegedly Robert her who

brought up the death of his son that's

what he said and the transcript I just

read to you proves he Joe Biden brought

up his son Robert her didn't ask

anything about him that's not what

happened here's Joe Biden um on February

8th the day this report came out and he

had impromptu press conference listen s

7 I know there's some attention paid to

some language in a report about my

recollection of events there's even

reference that I don't

remember when my son

died how in the hell dare he raise

that frankly when I was asked the

question I thought to myself wasn't any

of their damn

business when I was asked the question

and once again just taking you back to

the beginning of that transcript hers

pressing him where he kept papers

related to work he did after he left the

vice presidency in January 17 Biden well

um I I I I don't know this is what 17 18

that area her yes sir Biden remember in

this time frame my son is either been

deployed or is dying and so blah blah

blah blah blah and finishes it with what

month did Bo die oh God May 30th and

then it goes from there not a single

question here uh from Robert her about

Bo Biden it was Joe Joe Biden who

brought that up

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