“They’re Calling Him The DIDDLER!” DJ Vlad Discusses Diddy Allegations

he's rap royalty what's up New

York and the king of a seemingly

bulletproof Billion Dollar Empire the

Sha Diddy Coons faces losing it all of

the series of lawsuits accusing of

sexual

misconduct police this week red two of

his properties as part of a federal

investigation into sex

trafficking the rapper's lawyers called

an

ambush and a gross use of military level

Force now

still did he says he'll fight the pro

his Innocent but many are speculating

that he's the thin end of a big wedge

even foreshadowing a me too moment for

rra was he a misogynist in a way he's

selfish he's a very selfish individual

he wants to Spotlight on him it's very

much a shot it's something that I I have

a hard time believing did he zo surround

himself uh with young people

uh that basically go out and do whatever

uh he asked them to do abusive

relationships go both ways but of course

when you're a man you're always seen as

the villain even if a woman attacks you

first they did not need to come in guns

blazing remember even though he may be a

billionaire he also deserves a

presumption of innocent he's facing very

serious

allegations We join me now to discuss

all this of the DJ and digital media

Mogul DJ Vlad and Mark Curry the former

bad boy records artist who W work

closely with sha Diddy Kum so welcome to

both of you DJ Vlad a lot of people have

have wondered for a while since the me2

uh Scandal first erupted with Harvey

Weinstein and enveloped various

Industries Why rap and hip hop are

pretty well emerged unscathed do you

think that what's going on now with with

Diddy is indicative of a sea change

moment for rap

hip

hop well I don't think Hip-hop has gone

unscathed I mean R Kelly is essentially

hip-hop I mean although he sings but he

is overlapping with hip-hop so this has

been happening in hip-hop for a while uh

you're seeing it happening happening

with Russell Simmons uh so yeah hip-hop

has not been free and clear of this uh

something that everyone's had to deal

with what do you make of what's

happening with didd

he I mean it's hard to say he hasn't

been charged with anything I mean it

looks is bad I mean social media is

having a f day they're calling him the

diddler and uh they're saying no Diddy

whenever they say something questionable

but at the end of the day it's not

really up to social media or the public

it's really up to the authorities and

unlike an R Kelly puffy has hundreds of

millions of dollars and he's going to be

able to get the absolute best defense

and you know ultimately we'll see what

happens in the courtroom Mark Curry you

worked a Bad Boy Records you know Diddy

well uh worked with him for him are you

surprised by the Revelations by the FBI

involvement to me it took me by shock

because um it's it's almost like Karma

it's almost like what what what he's

been doing a lot of people accuse him of

putting him through in life is actually

he is his time to um honestly have to go

through the same things so during those

tribulations what we had to learn was to

just stay and fight and just do what you

got to do and so if he has the fight in

him like vas says then you know we we're

gonna say that he's guilty until he's

proven guilt I mean he's innocent until

proven guilty and we let the justice

system do what they have to do because

it's people that's in place that to get

paid to actually investigate these

things so um it's a it was a shock but

it's a very it's very much a shock it's

something that I I have a hard time

believing in what was he like to be

around when you were working with

him you know his we the highway you know

very controlling is um he's Aon headed

person um you know it's cool working

with him but it's it's it's doesn't

create it doesn't create you know like

working with him and being famous with

him and not having everything to go to

along with the show is just the thing so

um he's he's selfish he's a very selfish

individual he wants to Spotlight on him

he wants to be a rapper so really he's a

rapper and not a business he want B bad

boy is a business it's a label so he's a

rapper on the label so he's not just a

label he's a rapper so it's it's Russell

Simmons is not a rapper or you don't um

um so you know it's just one of those

kind of situations there you know was he

from your experience was he a

misogynist in a

way and before we let me ask you this

can we break that word down right fast

one time so I want everybody to

understand what that word

is you ask a question a massin is it

misogynist yeah okay explain that word

for me please well misogyny is where a

man would uh be instinctively inherently

hateful towards a woman because she's a

woman uh and a lot of people feel a lot

of uh lyrics in rap music and rappers

over the years have been brazenly

misogynist because actually a lot of

their fan base like them to

be uh yes you you know when you can say

something like that um when you think

about being famous and then you think

about a female sometimes a female can

get the same energy that you get from

being famous just by having her her

sexual organs so yes you you have men

that come in competition with women over

their souls

so yes getting into a women's soul is

definitely an accomplishment for a lot

of people they say hey the females like

me I'm famous and I'm handsome whatever

and then you get to enjoy those things

with females so yes it's just something

that comes with being a male I think and

pursuing females but I guess my point

about uh Diddy was from your experience

did he treat women with respect or with

disrespect no one gets really the

respect it's hard to get respect from

someone who's is on that level such as

the level that he's on um is to get

respect is something that they call you

have to earn the respect so you in order

to get that respect you have to stand

down on it and you have to earn that

respect he doesn't give respect not to

females not to a lot of men not to

producers um friends um you can just

tell by the way that everyone that's

around him and what's going on in their

lives you have all of the artists that's

been in prison and a lot of artists that

are dead so it's like what what has he

done to help those people's families and

then when you look at that that's what I

would call respect DJ Vlad DJ Vlad I

want to talk about sort of bigger

picture here you know sha kums is one of

the most successful music artist

business people uh in the music business

we've ever seen I mean's he's a

billionaire uh from a variety of

different strands uh coming off his

music uh he's you know for many people

think he's a genius when it comes to

both making music and for the business

of of of Music um and we we live in an

era where because of social media it

it's very hard when you get into the eye

of a storm like this it's very hard for

him a man we've just heard uh so

compellingly from Mark Curry there likes

to be in control uh you you suddenly

feel like you're losing control and it's

quite hard to control any narrative and

it's quite hard to keep that narrative

fair you know we all want to believe in

innocent till proven guilty but it's

almost impossible isn't it with social

media yeah I mean absolutely uh you're

going to get judged one way or another

but then again uh there's always just

the new cycle of it all if you look at

last year Kanye was getting canceled by

everybody uh he had lost a billion

dollar deal with Adidas uh every major

corporation from Universal to

even the hardware company he was working

with to release his music dropped him uh

and now look he has a number one song in

the country right I mean that's just

undeniable the number one song in the

country is Kanye West featuring Tai

dollar sign Carnival so and that was put

out independently so it just kind of

shows that people have a short memory

and if you put out something that people

enjoy they'll forget and forgive and

just enjoy whatever art that you have

just like for example Travis Scott you

know when the whole uh you know uh

concert happened and the kids died his

album was put on hold Nike delayed a

sneaker everything else like that A year

later he put out his album once again it

went number one huge concert huge merch

uh everything else like that people have

a short memory so it's really going to

be what ultimately happens and the only

way he could really get cancelled is if

he gets put in prison like R

Kelly Mark where does he rank Shan

P purely on Talent where does he rank on

Purely on talent I think he comes in

probably around a six on scale from one

to 10 he's not talented because he's

he's not much of a great Creator you

know um he's a great spokesperson or a

person that just be in the place of a

thing but not great uh as far as Talent

is concerned and you know I wanted to

reiterate one thing that you just was

talking about and we talking about this

system that's called the black ball

system where what happens is if you

don't agree with someone like Puff

you're up against a big system that

won't like for an example when I first

released a book in 2009 it was very

difficult for me to get a interview on

my own radio stations here in Atlanta

because they said that he was spending

so much money on marketing promoting

sarak and his Liquors and his Brands so

they was like it would be um we would we

we it would be a conflict of interests

so it's a lot of people who are in

position such as vad vad I'm glad to be

on this platform with you today but I've

always been waiting waiting for you to

reach out to me to say Mark Let's do an

interview I've done one with Sean pres

but I was waiting on you and those kind

of things that we put in place that

prevent from us spreading this

information we have to know how to not

do that so a lot of the things that I

see in that system I see within you and

I as well or you and other platforms as

well and that's just something that we

need to change we should also stand by

puff during these times we're not going

to hold them accountable or guilty or

say he's guilty until he's been proven

guilty and I think that social media has

a very powerful play on the outcome of

the situation and if the situation comes

out wrong and it's on the behalf of the

social media's um fault then how do we

address that because we we should not

let him go down just for what we think

well yeah that's just no no I think

that's an opinion many people share it's

an ongoing problem we see it time and

again Mark Curry thank you very much

indeed for joining us we're going to be

joined Now by someone who might be to

answer some of the the more legal

questions mark gagos he's joining us in

a moment vad just a reaction to to what

Mark was saying there it comes back

again to the innocent till proven guilty

being so hard in the modern era that

we're in if you were advising sha kums

what would you advise him to be doing

right

now uh I think the best thing to do is

just stay quiet and let the lawyers do

their job I think trying to interject

and and defend yourself in any type of

way uh usually just backfires so let the

lawyers do their job he has the budget

for the best lawyers in the country and

they're going to fight vehemently uh on

his behalf so ultimately if he just

stays quiet and lets things happen the

Uproar will start to die down I remember

the Uproar over the whole Cassie lawsuit

when he uh settled right away it was

just insane but then you know over time

people kind of started to forget about a

little bit and then this happened again

But ultimately it's GNA be up to him uh

he's still gonna be rich he still has a

huge catalog um I actually disagree with

Mark Curry I think that puffy uh is

extremely talented uh to be able to take

someone like a biggie who is just an

underground rapper is overweight and has

a lazy eye and to turn him into a

superstar and to be able to do this with

artist after artist decade after decade

that's a huge Talent uh just like a

Quincy Jones uh Quincy may not have

played all the instruments on Michael

Jackson's Thriller but look what he

helped put together right so yeah that's

my disagreement with Mark well I agree

with you and actually I've I've met

Diddy a few times I got to say he was

always extremely courteous and

respectful when I met him and I was

quite surprised about how uh critical

Mark Curry was really about him as a

person basically implying he's

disrespectful to everybody he's a

control freak um Etc I mean that's was

quite a critical picture he painted

there let me bring in Mark gagos who's

one of the top criminal defense lawyers

in Hollywood uh Mark great to see you

again um where are we with with this

case FBI now made a move on Sha Diddy

kums how significant is that why do you

think they' chosen now well I think that

they they're using if you will the civil

lawsuits and when I say they I'm talking

about the Department of Justice and

specifically the southern district of

New York they're using those as kind of

a road map and this was frankly a a very

uh daring move by them and a very quick

move normally with the feds it's they

move at a glacial Pace this has been at

warp speed and I think this is sending a

message to potential witnesses that they

better cooperate now or it's going to

get dangerous I I would believe that

there are a number of people who are in

the crosshairs and that's the way the

feds operate so this is serious business

and for those who've not been following

the detail of his case what what are we

talking about here what is the Crux of

the case against him and what is the

potential Jeopardy for Diddy in this

well by reverse engineering it you've

got the Department of Homeland Security

as apparently the lead agency here if

that's the case then the allegations

that are in the civil lawsuits that talk

about trafficking and things of that

nature are are probably front and center

and I say that because it looks to me at

least based on and I'm piecing it

together uh based on what I've seen it

looks like that's what they're running

to ground to make sure that that if

that's what's happening that they've

explored it and at least have given

witnesses an opportunity to respond it

really is a somewhat over the toop in

some sense because I don't think that at

any point he was going to flee or do

anything else they did not need to come

in guns blazing so to speak I know that

there's allegations of guns and drugs

and things like that but to give you a

perfect example yesterday they were

reporting that they had arrested

somebody at the airport he was fleeing

in a private jet all of that stuff that

was coming out my understanding is is

that he was planning on going on spring

break with his daughters and so that's

why the airplane was uh there and that

the gentleman who was arrested and

variously described as a mule so to

speak it was nothing more than allegedly

personal use so before we get all

overheated let's try and put it in

context and remember even though he may

be a billionaire he also deserves a

presumption of innocence yeah and in

fact just before you joined us we were

talking about the problem of social

media and how difficult it is to to

control stories like this when

conspiracy theories run wild whether

it's to do with Diddy now or whether

last week it was uh the Princess of

Wales and what was wrong with her and so

on um and that brings me to an odd part

of his story uh Mark which is Prince

Harry being named in the

lawsuit um because apparently kums is

said to a drawn guest it says to his

Infamous parties through VIP

associations with celebrities like

famous athletes political figures

artists musicians and international dig

dignitaries like British royal Prince

Harry uh that's got a lot of attention

of headlines uh what's the purpose of

them including Prince Harry in that way

do you think I think it was clearly

because they wanted to try to titilate I

mean look anybody who knows Sean knows

he's been throwing a white party for as

long as I can remember I've actually

attended the white party and met a

number of people there there was nothing

untour going on at the parties

themselves um he's done them in La he's

done them in the Hamptons uh there's you

know the part of what is hard to

reconcile here is some of these wild and

frankly outlandish allegations with what

you actually have as evidence or no and

I've been around and and in full

disclosure I've represented him on

multiple occasions and I haven't seen

anything that would suggest kind of the

titilation or the um outlandish kinds of

allegations that I've seen floating

around but pce you make a great point a

10 days ago we were seeing some of the

most outrageous things about the the

princess being floated around on social

media and it turns out all of those were

dead wrong I can't tell you how often I

see that with clients and situations I'm

involved in I mean Prince Harry's front

page of a few newspapers over here in

the UK uh if you were him how would you

be feeling about being dragged into this

on such what appears to be such a

spirous context well when you see the

one of the lawsuits that was filed where

they compare one of Diddy's employees to

the version of galain Maxwell so they're

they're trying to draw that and then if

you throw in Prince Harry then you get

the reminiscent of Andrew with Epstein

so I understand what's being done it's a

very creative use of the uh the legal

process in order to draw the attention

and to some extent it has worked so far

because you now have the fence going

full bore in his

Direction DJ Vlad talking about Diddy's

Circle the people around him he's

obviously very rich very successful um

what kind of team does he has to to your

knowledge um I mean did he's always

surround himself uh with young people uh

that basically go out and do whatever uh

he asked the to do I remember when I was

on drink Champs uh recently I talked

about an incident uh years and years ago

where we were at a club and Diddy was

there as well as me and a guy that was

working with Diddy approached me and

said that Diddy really like my jacket

and asked if he could buy it off me I

said no thank you but but that was the

typ of things that he has people do

you're wearing it

now no I'm not wearing it now I don't

have the Jacket anymore I do like that

jacket so I'm just asking if it's

available thanks you yeah thank you

thank you I dressed nice but yeah no

Diddy offered it he said hey you know

Diddy loves the jacket he's asking if

you want to sell it to him right now and

I remember it was like winter outside

and I said ah no thank you man no you

probably could have got a good price in

that

moment maybe maybe but I think just

taking off my jacket and selling it to

another man right then and there just

felt a little too weird for me what is

your sense about what kind of person he

is now did he now he's made his money

made his wealth made his Fame made his

fortune has he changed from what you

hear is he still the same guy you know

again I come back to what Mark Curry was

was saying painting quite a critical

picture of this guy you know control

freak disrespectful treated everybody

pretty much as lesser individuals is

that your sense of Diddy and is that

what you hear about

him well I don't really know Diddy I

interviewed him 10 years ago when he was

first launching Revolt uh I ran into him

here and there um you know ultimately uh

people are going to be people I remember

I had a conversation with Roger bonds

who used to be his security guy and we

were talking about the whole allegations

of abuse with Cassie and what he said

what he personally saw was that he'd be

in the car with both of them and

suddenly Cassie would punch Diddy in the

face and then Diddy would jump back

there and they would start scuffling and

everything else like that so you know I

mean he's going to have messed up

relationships just like the rest of us

uh Abus abusive relationships go both

ways but of course when you're a man

you're always seen as the villain even

if a woman attacks you first uh you know

you see what's you know 15 years later

Chris Brown still can't perform at NBA

Celebrity games because the whole

Rihanna story so it's one of those

things uh I think ultimately he has

calmed down quite a bit and he has

mellowed out and so forth but I think

men are going to be men and people are

going to be people and if pushed to a

certain direction people are going to

react how they're going to react well

gagos you you've acted for him um what

kind of person did you find him to be

look he is intense and he is uh hard

driving but you can say that Pierce in

fact I was watching a little bit about

uh one of the other people that you've

talked about I mean that that goes with

the territory I mean you know people who

are uh successful share a lot of the

common traits one of the things that you

the picture that is being painted is not

something that I have seen uh or

experienced and I've spent hours and

hours over years years um representing

him on various things and just haven't

seen it I mean it it's almost a

caricature also and to your question uh

the people that he surrounds himself

with i' I've known met and uh and

consider many of the people around him

um uh quality High the highest quality

uh people I I I I won't mention their

names for fear of having them get into

the crosshairs but I can think of two or

three off the top of my head who I just

think the world of so I'm not so sure

that the picture that is being painted

has any relationship whatsoever to the

reality here I understand that we live

in an era where it is you know you

mentioned Chris Brown and I represented

Chris Brown in that in that incident

with Rihanna and Rihanna quickly for

those who don't remember actually came

to court to support Chris during those

proceedings was there she was at my

office we went to court and you know

there's there's a forgiveness in the

personal relationships that somehow

doesn't seem to kind of spill over into

other situations in in Diddy's case the

some of the things that I've heard are

just so over the toop and bear no

connection to the things that I've seen

personally that it's hard to it's hard

to reconcile if he is convicted of these

kind of offenses sex trafficking and so

on they're obviously very serious what

kind of jail time could he be looking at

look the the I always hesitate to

speculate on things like that my I I

remember a client once I when my father

was alive he was my partner and the

client asked him how much time could I

do and he told her and she came running

into my office your daddy scare me and

you know I don't want to answer honestly

he hasn't been filed on I fully expect

based on what I've heard so far that

we're that we aren't U close to any kind

of a filing so I'm not going to

speculate because generally in these

kinds of cases the prosecutor holds all

the cards I mean that's one of the the I

guess the Beauties and the detriments of

the Criminal Justice System federally in

America is that the prosecutor can stack

charges in such a way that you could be

you can go away for the rest of your

life it's a daunting amount of

responsibility that a prosecutor has and

you always hope that they're going to