Joe Rogan RIPS Israel 'Genocide', Candace Owens Firing

Breaking Points
28 Mar 202414:33

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the evolving public opinion on the conflict between Israel and Gaza, highlighting the shift in perspectives among various political figures and the general public. It emphasizes the impact of recent events and drone footage on people's views, leading to a growing disapproval of the military actions. The conversation also touches on the historical context and the irony of a nation founded in the aftermath of the Holocaust engaging in actions that some compare to genocide. The summary underscores the significance of these changing opinions and their potential implications for political discourse and policy.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“’ The podcast host discusses the evolving perceptions of the conflict, noting that views range from extreme to mainstream.
  • 🌍 There is a reference to the international response, including the International Criminal Court and a UN report, suggesting plausible grounds for genocide.
  • πŸ—£οΈ Several influential figures, including Joe Rogan, AOC, and Alex Jones, have expressed strong opinions on the situation.
  • πŸ”₯ Joe Rogan's comments on his podcast suggest a critical view of the conflict, drawing parallels to historical events such as the Holocaust.
  • 🚨 The podcast highlights the impact of drone footage showing civilian casualties, which has influenced public opinion and notable figures' commentary.
  • πŸ’‘ The discussion touches on the irony of a nation founded in the aftermath of the Holocaust engaging in actions that some compare to genocide.
  • πŸ€” The podcast host questions the preparedness of global leaders for the public's reaction to the conflict, particularly in the context of new forms of warfare.
  • πŸ“ˆ Polling data indicates a shift in American public opinion, with a majority now disapproving of Israeli military action in Gaza.
  • πŸ”„ The partisan breakdown of the polling data shows a significant change in approval rates among Republicans, Independents, and Democrats.
  • πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ The script mentions a pushback against speech policing, with some conservatives objecting to the banning of certain types of speech on university campuses.
  • 🌐 The conflict and its coverage are presented as a potential blind spot for the public, with the current reaction being different from previous conflicts involving Gaza and Israel.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of discussion in the transcript?

    -The main topic of discussion in the transcript is the conflict involving Gaza, the varying perspectives on it, and the public's reaction to the recent events, including drone strikes on unarmed civilians.

  • Who are some of the individuals mentioned in the transcript as having commented on the conflict?

    -Some of the individuals mentioned include Joe Rogan, Candace Owens, AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), Ben Shapiro, and Alex Jones.

  • What does the transcript suggest about the public's changing perception of the conflict?

    -The transcript suggests that the public's perception of the conflict is shifting, with a growing number of people disapproving of the military actions in Gaza, as evidenced by the change in polling numbers.

  • What is the significance of the drone footage mentioned in the transcript?

    -The drone footage is significant because it shows the striking and killing of unarmed civilians, which has contributed to the shift in public opinion and the perception of the conflict as a potential genocide.

  • How does the transcript address the issue of genocide in relation to the conflict?

    -The transcript discusses the term 'genocide' in relation to the conflict by referencing various opinions, international reports, and legal definitions, and by drawing parallels with historical events such as the Holocaust.

  • What is the historical context provided in the transcript regarding the founding of Israel?

    -The transcript mentions that modern Israel was founded in 1948, following the aftermath of World War II and the Holocaust, with the intention of establishing a Jewish state as a response to the persecution Jews faced.

  • What is the 'Dresden' reference in the transcript, and how does it relate to the conflict?

    -The reference to 'Dresden' is a comparison made to the bombing of the city during World War II, highlighting the devastation seen in Gaza and the asymmetry of the conflict, where high-tech weaponry is used against unarmed civilians.

  • What is the significance of the shift in Republican, Independent, and Democratic views as presented in the transcript?

    -The shift in views across different political affiliations indicates a broader and more bipartisan disapproval of the military actions in Gaza, suggesting a significant change in public sentiment towards the conflict.

  • How does the transcript discuss the role of social media and influential figures in shaping public opinion?

    -The transcript discusses the role of social media and influential figures like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones in shaping public opinion by highlighting their comments and the impact of their platforms on the discourse surrounding the conflict.

  • What is the connection made between historical events and current actions in the transcript?

    -The transcript draws a connection between the Holocaust, the founding of Israel, and current actions in the conflict, discussing the irony and tragedy of a state born out of persecution engaging in actions that mirror the horrors it sought to escape.

  • What is the overall message conveyed by the transcript regarding the conflict and public reaction?

    -The overall message conveyed is that the conflict, particularly the use of drone strikes on unarmed civilians, has led to a significant shift in public opinion, with many viewing the actions as excessive and akin to genocide, and that this reaction was perhaps underestimated by political leaders.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ€” Public Opinion on the Conflict

This paragraph discusses the varying perspectives on the ongoing conflict, highlighting the views of college students, Joe Biden voters, the international criminal court of justice, and UN reports. It also mentions the opinions of influential figures like Alex Jones, Candace Owens, AOC, and Joe Rogan. The focus is on the evolving narrative around the conflict, with a particular emphasis on the term 'genocide' and the reactions it has garnered. The paragraph delves into the complexity of the situation, with references to historical events like the Holocaust and the founding of Israel, and the implications of these on current attitudes and reactions.

05:02

πŸ“š Historical Context and Irony

The second paragraph provides a historical context to the conflict, referencing the Holocaust and the establishment of modern Israel in 1948. It discusses the international consensus on the definition of genocide post-WWII and the implications of these definitions on the current conflict. The paragraph also touches on the reactions of Israeli leaders and the public to perceived threats, and the resulting actions in Gaza. It highlights the irony of a nation born out of the ashes of the Holocaust potentially repeating some of the same patterns of behavior, and the psychological and political complexities this entails.

10:03

πŸ“ˆ Shifts in Public Approval and Partisan Divide

This paragraph presents polling data that illustrates shifts in public opinion regarding the conflict, particularly in the aftermath of October 7th. It shows a decline in approval for Israeli military action in Gaza and an increase in disapproval. The paragraph also discusses the partisan breakdown of these opinions, noting significant changes among Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. It reflects on the public's reaction to the conflict compared to previous instances and suggests that the current situation is being perceived and reacted to differently by the public, indicating a potential blind spot in the understanding of these dynamics.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘genocide

The term 'genocide' refers to the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular ethnic or national group. In the context of the video, it is used to describe the views of various individuals and entities regarding the conflict, with some accusing certain actions of constituting genocide. The keyword is central to the video's theme as it underscores the severity of the situation and the differing perspectives on the conflict.

πŸ’‘international criminal court of justice

The 'International Criminal Court of Justice' is an intergovernmental organization and tribunal that sits in The Hague in the Netherlands. It is intended to prosecute individuals for international crimes of genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. In the video, the court's potential involvement indicates the gravity of the situation and the international community's interest in the conflict.

πŸ’‘UN report

A 'UN report' refers to an official document prepared by the United Nations on a specific issue, often containing findings, recommendations, and data. In the video, the UN report is significant as it provides an official stance and evidence that supports the argument of the existence of 'reasonable grounds to believe' in the context of the conflict.

πŸ’‘Alex Jones

Alex Jones is a well-known American radio show host and conspiracy theorist. In the context of the video, his comments on the situation contribute to the diverse range of opinions being expressed. His use of the term 'robotic mass genocide' illustrates the extreme views held by some commentators.

πŸ’‘Candace Owens

Candace Owens is an American conservative commentator and political analyst. In the video, her views on the conflict are mentioned alongside other prominent figures, showing that the issue has garnered attention from various political commentators and influencers.

πŸ’‘AOC

AOC, or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party. Her comments in the video underscore the political dimension of the conflict and how it is being debated within the U.S. political sphere.

πŸ’‘Hamas

Hamas is a Palestinian Islamist political organization and militant group that has significant influence in the Gaza Strip. In the video, the mention of Hamas is relevant as it is one of the parties involved in the conflict, and the discussion around it highlights the complexity of the situation and the differing views on who is responsible for the violence.

πŸ’‘Drone strikes

Drone strikes refer to the use of unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones, to carry out attacks. In the video, the drone strikes are a central point of discussion, with the emphasis on their impact on unarmed civilians and the ethical implications of such warfare tactics.

πŸ’‘Holocaust

The Holocaust was a systematic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jews and others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II. In the video, the Holocaust is invoked as a historical reference point to highlight the gravity of the situation and the potential for repeating past atrocities.

πŸ’‘public opinion

Public opinion refers to the collective views of the population on a particular issue or set of issues. In the video, shifts in public opinion are discussed to demonstrate how the perception of the conflict is changing over time and in response to new information.

πŸ’‘Israeli military action

The term 'Israeli military action' refers to the operations conducted by the Israel Defense Forces. In the video, the discussion around these actions is central to the narrative, as it explores the international response and the ethical considerations of the conflict.

πŸ’‘Zionism

Zionism is a political movement that supports the establishment and development of a Jewish state in the historic land of Israel. In the video, the mention of Zionism is relevant as it provides historical context for the conflict and the motivations behind certain actions and policies.

Highlights

Discussion on the evolving views of college students and mainstream society on the current conflict, with various public figures and institutions expressing their opinions.

Mention of the international criminal court of justice considering the situation as plausible for genocide.

The new UN report stating there are reasonable grounds to believe in the occurrence of genocide.

Alex Jones, Candace Owens, and AOC expressing their views on the situation, adding to the growing list of voices.

Joe Rogan's podcast comments on the conflict, highlighting his perspective on the tragedy of war.

Rogan's critique of the drone strikes on unarmed civilians and the implications of such actions.

The irony of a country founded in 1948, after the Holocaust, potentially repeating some of the same ideologies.

The public reaction to the drone footage and the shift in perception regarding the conflict.

The comparison of the current conflict to historical events like Dresden and the introduction of new types of warfare.

Rogan's commentary on the founding of Israel and its response to threats, including the destruction of Gaza.

The mention of polling data showing a shift in American public opinion on Israeli military action in Gaza.

The partisan breakdown of the polling data, indicating a significant change in Republican, Independent, and Democratic views.

The increase in the number of people who are unsure or disengaging from the discourse on the conflict.

The discussion on the public's reaction to conflicts, particularly how this conflict is being perceived differently.

The mention of Chris Rufo's reaction to Greg Abbott's instruction on banning anti-semitic speech in Texas universities.

The exploration of the psychological pattern of victims of abuse becoming abusers, as related to the conflict.

Joe Rogan's acknowledgment of Hamas and Islamic extremism as genocidal towards Jews, showing his balanced view.

The call for an independent media organization as a replacement for mainstream media, emphasizing the importance of public opinion and discourse.

Transcripts

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Let's uh transition into uh what Mr

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Rogan is thinking about this conflict

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because you know to the point of whether

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the views of these college students are

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extreme or mainstream at this point when

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you have a majority of Joe Biden voters

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saying this is a genocide when you have

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the international criminal uh court of

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justice uh saying that's plausible when

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you have a new UN report saying there's

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reasonable grounds to believe and now

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you can add oh you have Alex Jones

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saying it's a genes I believe Candace

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Owens has said similar things AOC has

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now come out and said the same you can

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add to that uh growing list of voices

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Joe Rogan who made some very interesting

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comments on his podcast let's take a

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listen even in the right like look

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what's going on with Candace Owens and

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Ben

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Shapiro like what did she say I want to

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know what was what she was fired for CU

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was it criticism of Israel was it I mean

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did she show that Edward Snowden video

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that he put up on Twitter that shows

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them maybe drone bombing those kids that

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are those men I should say unarmed

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people that were walking toward W the

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rubble that clearly weren't causing any

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danger to anybody just bomb them yeah no

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it's your duty it's just like for Biden

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or whoever you like you're supposed to

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cover up for them because the whole

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thing is like they're always saying

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they're only targeting Hamas and

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everybody else is a casualty well if

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those guys are just unarmed civilians

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and they're walking alone that's what

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they appear to be dresen and you just

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blast them from the sky with robots this

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is the tragedy of War yeah this is

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insane and no no one knows what to think

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now because if you can't talk about that

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if you can't say that's real then you're

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saying that genocide is okay as long as

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we're doing it and that is what we're

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saying and if you're saying that from a

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perspective of someone who literally

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went through the Holocaust or your your

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people your tribe went through the

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[Β __Β ] Holocaust and now you're willing

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to do it I hope the irony is not lost on

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you it's so nuts it's so hard to imagine

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that someone where a c a culture like a

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country was like officially founded in

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what 47 48 48 okay officially founded so

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that's so

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recent and you and you guys are willing

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to do what was done to you that led you

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to believe that you needed to start your

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own country you're willing to do that at

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least in a small scale in Gaza like

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there's nothing left if you see the

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videos let's let's see some recent

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footage of Gaza so some really pointed

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uh the Atlantic would say those comments

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extremist um GRE Greg Abbott would say

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anti-semitic there you go many and

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apparently Matt Miller would as well

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talk about that also in my uh in my

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monologue but I mean he really he really

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goes in apparently that video that aler

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obtained the Drone footage of them

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striking and killing these four unarmed

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civilians who were just walking along in

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conun I mean it's it's horrible to watch

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we played just a little bit of it um but

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if you do watch the whole thing you know

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you see the initial drone strike you see

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one of them at least like

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crawling after being hit initially

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wounded and then hit again and all of

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them killed and you know you can't but

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Hamas that you can't oh human shield

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that it's just so naked and I think one

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of the things that people have reacted

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to so strongly because I've been

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wrapping trying to wrap my head Emily

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around why this video this seems to have

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been the thing for Alex Jones that's

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what he quote tweeted it seems to have

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been you know the thing for for Joe

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Rogan and just judging by the the tenor

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of the commentary and the Shi you know

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AOC then comes out shortly thereafter

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also caus it a genocide I've been trying

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to wrap my head around what it was about

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this video because we've seen so many

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Horrors play out in front of our eyes

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and I think it's the fact that all the

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typical justifications are null you

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can't like I said you can't but Hamas it

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you can't there's a tunnel there you

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can't um you know it's anti-semitic to

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say this all the normal justifications

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are they're not human Shields are kind

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of null and void and then there

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something so nightmarish and terrifying

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um Alex Jones called a robotic Mass

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genocide I believe about the fact that

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they're walking along totally unawares

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and then out of the sky boom it's over

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and also the the David and Goliath

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nature of that I mean they're unarmed

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they have nothing right and everything

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around them in the video too is complete

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Rubble as as Rogan is saying right there

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look at Goda there's nothing left um his

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guest there says it's like Dresden

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they're completely unarm armed they're

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completely vulnerable and meanwhile

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Israel has this you know incredibly

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Hightech killing technology and that's

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what they're up against and there's

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something about that video that marked a

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real turning point for the way a lot of

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people were viewing this conflict so Al

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Jones apparently has also been calling

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Rabbi schie the butt plug Rabbi they had

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a

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debate he did yes he did okay good uh

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interesting enough well the Rogan clip

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to me is is fascinating because he he

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goes back and says listen this is really

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recent history like the Holocaust is is

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really recent history in the living

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memory of many people and the founding

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of modern Israel comes in uh 1948 and

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what also happens there is and R I

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talked about this a little bit yesterday

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but the uh the the new definitions or

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the formal uh International agreement on

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what the definition of genocide is

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because basically the UN comes together

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after World War II and says we need to

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prevent you know Dresden we need to

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prevent the Holocaust we need to you

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know all of that and that living memory

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is also why uh you know you see

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Netanyahu and other leaders in Israel

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and even by the way some

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well-intentioned

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liberal Israelis um feel the need to

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turn Gaza into a quote parking lot

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because those threats remain you know so

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ingrained in the minds and that's what

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is reacting to it and saying it's

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strange it's a it's a strange like

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dissonance between you know saying we

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want to prevent another Holocaust and

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then seeing uh the the destruction of

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Gaza and calling for the destruction of

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Gaza calling for it in the name of

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stopping another Holocaust to be turned

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into a parking lot and I understand you

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know why that's why that hits home with

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people like Joe Rogan I completely

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understand the perspective of uh being

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grossed out by the Drone attacks and

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sort of like it it is this is a

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different kind like since we have since

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World War II this is a a new kind of

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conflict um and and I don't think the

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netanyahu's and the Joe bidens of the

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world were prepared for how the public

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was going to react to it it's similar to

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other conflicts like high like Urban

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Warfare um but Syria other places but

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it's it's different uh it's it's

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completely different and I think they

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underestimated where the public would be

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uh when watching this because I mean

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yeah it's it's just these videos are are

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tough yeah um you know it is sort of um

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there are quotes from the the early

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Zionist and I think it's very much

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Illustrated in not just the Israeli

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response here but in you know Wars since

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their founding basically this notion of

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because of the horrors that they were

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subjected to and this idea that they're

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quote unquote in a tough neighborhood

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part of why they go in with

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such overwhelming you know force and

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commit these Horrors and war crimes and

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you know totally annihilate all of Gaza

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is this idea of oh we have to

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demonstrate that actually we're the

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biggest [Β __Β ] that we are just as

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tough tougher and batter than anyone

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else and they'll they talk openly about

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you know restoring deterrence and that's

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code for basically what I said we need

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to put on display that we can be the

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brutal barbarians just as much as anyone

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else and so you know it is a deep horror

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and deep irony that the the people who

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you know suffered through the Holocaust

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and you know the state that is founded

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out of you know the ashes of World War

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II and the Holocaust that then would

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turn around and repeat some of the same

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ideology some of you know Jo Rogan calls

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it like on a small scale and obviously

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the death count isn't approaching and

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what the Holocaust is but it is there is

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a similar like uh Quest towards

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Annihilation there is a similar uh I

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mean there's a Jewish supremacist

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ideology here so I think his comments

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are entirely appropriate in another way

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it's not it shouldn't be surprising

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because you see this on a human level

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too people who were victims of abuse and

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then they turn around and become the

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abusers I mean that is a common pattern

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that plays out psychologically right in

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uh in human life so obviously you know

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know for for Rogan who's kind of like

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you know litus test from Normie opinion

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you know is not a particular idog in any

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direction to have come to this

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conclusion and again like that it was

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this video that seems to have led him

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there I just I found that very

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interesting very know worthy and

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obviously he's very influential very

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impactful so in and of itself it matters

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a lot but I was going to say just

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another kind of wakeup call probably for

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Biden n Yahoo and you people like Ted

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Cruz who sat and respectfully talked to

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us about this would be that Joe Rogan

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also isn't going to deny that Hamas and

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uh like actual Islamic extremism isn't

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genocidal towards Jews it of course is

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and he's not going to he's he's not the

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kind of person that's going to like make

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the Judith Butler argument about Hamas

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being a resistance organ a part of the

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global resistance whatever he's not that

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kind of person he's he's nor like you

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said CHR he's has Normy opinion on all

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of this uh and so that's where this

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becomes uh and even I'm going to mention

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this Chris rufo reacted to I I made a

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little joke about Greg Abbott earlier in

10:04

this segment that's because Greg Abbott

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instructed universities in Texas to

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update their speech policies to ban

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anti-semitic speech and Chris rufo uh

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obviously a conservative obviously

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pro-israel and other kind of

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conservatives on the new right like

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Sager and people like myself uh who have

10:22

objected to the new speech policing

10:24

since October 7th and on the grounds

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that it's it's sort of hypocritical from

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people like both wrong and hypocritical

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from people like Greg Abbott Chris ruo

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reacted and said what's the difference

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between you know this and banning quote

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anti-black speech or anti-white speech

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um it's it's not how we do things in

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this country and that has been again

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wildly underestimated by people like

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Greg Abbott who probably had no idea or

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had no nobody in his circles was like

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you're going to you're going to upset

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people uh like a Chris rufo um or like

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others in those circles that take issue

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with this they just they don't have

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awareness that it really wrangles people

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because it's a bubble yeah that it is a

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bubble all the way around and we have

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some polling that shows you also the the

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public shift that I think speaks to some

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of the points that you're making here so

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these are the overall numbers and you

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can see the difference between November

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2023 so we're talking about shortly

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after October 7th versus now in November

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a majority 50% of Americans approved of

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Israeli military action in Gaza versus

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45 % who disapprove so it's pretty

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closely split but you got a majority in

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favor now totally different only 36%

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approve

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55% disapprove it's interesting to me in

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these polls um the no opinion number

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actually goes up in all of these polls

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I'm about to show you just kind of that

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as the conflict has gone on there are

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more people who are moving from that

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approval to just like I don't know I

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don't have an opinion I don't want to

11:54

talk about this anymore which you see

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some in the discourse online where

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people who were previously like staunch

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Defenders have just kind of gone quiet

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um I think we have additional polling we

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can put up don't we guys that has the uh

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the partisan breakdown here because the

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way that Democrats have uh have moved

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has been interesting so here we've got

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an indication of how closely people have

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been paying to the conflict and um what

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their views are based on whether they

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say they're following very closely or

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not those who are following very closely

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55% disapprove those who are following

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somewhat closely 56% disapprove those

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who are not following closely

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54% um disapprove the numbers in terms

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of approve are highest among those who

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are following very closely so there's a

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bit of an indication here it's not like

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a huge shift depending on uh the biggest

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difference you see is just the number of

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people who are offering no opinion and

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then put the next one up on the screen

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guys the this is the the partisan

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breakdown that I was mentioning so we'll

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start with the Republicans relevant to

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the Chris rufo and Texas discussion so

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back in November 71% of Republicans say

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yes I approve of this military action

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only 23% say no I do not now both of

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those numbers have shifted 64% say they

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approve that's still a large number but

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30% is a significant minority who now

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say they disapprove yes um Independence

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big movement here so it was split

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basically 50/50 47 approved 48

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disapproved now you only have 29% of

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Independents who approve 60% disapprove

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and and the Democratic numbers are just

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overwhelming so you've always had a

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majority of Democrats who disapproved

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now that number has shot up to

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75% and only

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18% say that they approve and once again

13:42

you have an increase in the number who

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are like no opinion count me out I don't

13:46

want to talk about this let's just move

13:48

on which I did find noteworthy given

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that you would think that as the

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conflict goes on more people form an

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opinion but it actually has been the

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opposite here I I read into that people

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who previously were on the approved side

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that are not like I don't know I'm just

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going to say no opinion yeah I think

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that's right um but this is a huge blind

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spot this isn't the same the public is

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not reacting to this in the same way

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that the public has reacted to other

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conflicts frankly in Gaza and in Israel

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it's is just completely different this

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time around and people were unprepared

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