In Defense of BluRay (RedEye Responds)

fugativeredeye
15 Feb 202012:28

Summary

TLDRIn this episode of Redeye, the host responds to a video by YouTuber James Rolfe, also known as the Angry Video Game Nerd, who argues that Blu-ray has failed to impress despite its technical advantages over DVDs. The discussion covers various points such as physical media versus streaming, the convenience and drawbacks of both formats, and the future of home entertainment. The host disagrees with Rolfe's stance, defending Blu-ray's qualities and expressing a preference for physical media over streaming services.

Takeaways

  • ๐ŸŽฎ James Rolfe, aka the Angry Video Game Nerd, is a favorite YouTuber of the speaker, but a recent video of his sparked disagreement.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฆ The video in question lists the creator's top 10 reasons why Blu-ray sucks, often comparing it unfavorably to DVDs and suggesting streaming is superior.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฝ The speaker takes issue with Rolfe's stance on physical media, arguing that Blu-ray has its own merits and that streaming isn't without flaws.
  • ๐ŸŽž๏ธ Rolfe criticizes Blu-ray for not offering significant improvements over DVDs, aside from better image quality and more capacity.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The speaker counters that Blu-ray often has better bonus features than DVDs and that not all Blu-rays have stripped-down menus.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฆ Rolfe complains about the size of Blu-ray cases, but the speaker points out that collector's editions and large cases were also a thing for DVDs.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The speaker argues that Blu-ray disc holders are not as problematic as Rolfe suggests and that issues may stem from specific devices like the PS3.
  • ๐Ÿ”‘ Rolfe's mention of needing to renew encryption keys for Blu-ray playback is seen as a negative, but the speaker believes this is a misunderstanding specific to the PS3.
  • ๐Ÿข The ownership of the Blu-ray format by a single company is criticized by Rolfe, but the speaker notes that other formats like VHS and Betamax were similarly owned.
  • ๐Ÿ“บ Rolfe finds Blu-ray names nonsensical; the speaker explains the tech reason behind the name, relating to the blue laser used for reading the discs.
  • ๐ŸŽฅ The speaker criticizes the lack of integration among streaming services and the inconvenience of having to switch between them, calling it a modern format war.
  • ๐ŸŒ The speaker concludes by defending physical media, emphasizing the permanence and reliability of owning a physical copy, as opposed to the limitations of streaming.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video by James Rolfe discussed in the transcript?

    -The main topic of the video is a critique of Blu-ray technology, where James Rolfe lists his top 10 reasons why he believes DVD is better than Blu-ray.

  • What is the narrator's stance on streaming services in comparison to physical media?

    -The narrator disagrees with James Rolfe's preference for streaming, arguing that physical media, such as Blu-ray and DVD, offers more permanent ownership and better quality, despite the convenience of streaming.

  • What are some of the advantages the narrator lists for Blu-ray over DVD?

    -The narrator lists several advantages for Blu-ray including: less susceptibility to scratches, greater storage capacity, and higher definition picture quality.

  • How does the narrator address the issue of streaming services not having desired content?

    -The narrator acknowledges that while streaming services offer convenience, they often lack certain content, and can remove it at any time, leading to a need for multiple subscriptions across different platforms.

  • What is the narrator's response to James Rolfe's complaint about Blu-ray menus?

    -The narrator counters by saying that while some DVD menus were interactive and interesting, others were annoying and complex. They also mention that Blu-ray discs can have interactive menus, but they are less common due to reduced interest in this feature.

  • What does the narrator say about the bonus features on Blu-ray versus DVD?

    -The narrator argues that Blu-ray discs typically have more bonus features than DVDs, especially when comparing editions released in both formats.

  • How does the narrator address the issue of Blu-ray cases and storage?

    -The narrator argues that the size of Blu-ray cases is not a universal problem, as many special editions still fit in standard cases, and that some DVDs also had large cases in the past.

  • What is the narrator's take on the complexity of Blu-ray disc holders compared to DVD holders?

    -The narrator believes that most Blu-rays have similar holders to DVDs, and that the issue raised is specific to the PS3, not a common problem across all Blu-ray players.

  • How does the narrator respond to the argument about Blu-ray needing an encryption key renewal?

    -The narrator disputes this point, stating that it seems to be an issue specific to the PS3, as they have not encountered this problem with other Blu-ray players or consoles.

  • What is the narrator's opinion on the ownership of video formats?

    -The narrator disagrees with the notion that one company owning a format is unique to Blu-ray, pointing out that other formats like VHS and Betamax were also owned by single companies.

  • How does the narrator view the use of bookmarks on Blu-ray players?

    -The narrator sees bookmarks as a positive feature, allowing for multiple pause points in a movie, which they believe is an improvement over the single bookmark option on DVDs.

Outlines

00:00

๐ŸŽฎ Debating the Merits of Blu-ray vs. DVD

The paragraph begins with an introduction to a discussion about the pros and cons of Blu-ray, initiated by a video by James Rolfe, also known as the Angry Video Game Nerd. The speaker expresses surprise at the video's stance, given Rolfe's preference for physical media like VHS, and outlines a disagreement with Rolfe's argument that Blu-ray is inferior to DVD. The speaker acknowledges the convenience of streaming but criticizes the limitations of streaming services and the potential for content to be removed. The paragraph focuses on the debate around physical media, highlighting the speaker's preference for Blu-ray due to its durability, capacity, and higher definition compared to DVDs.

05:00

๐Ÿ“ฑ The Evolution and Issues with Blu-ray Controls

This paragraph discusses the evolution of Blu-ray and the issues that arose with its controls, particularly in relation to the PlayStation 3 (PS3). The speaker argues that the PS3's control scheme for Blu-ray is not intuitive, with the middle button no longer serving as a universal play/pause function. The speaker also addresses the need to renew encryption keys for playing Blu-ray discs, which they find unnecessary. However, they note that these issues may be specific to the PS3, as other devices like the Xbox One and standalone players do not present the same problems. The paragraph concludes with a defense of Blu-ray against Rolfe's criticisms, emphasizing the speaker's continued support for physical media over streaming services.

10:02

๐Ÿฟ Streaming Services and the Future of Media Consumption

The final paragraph of the script shifts the focus to streaming services and their impact on media consumption. The speaker critiques the fragmented nature of streaming, with different services requiring separate subscriptions and the inconvenience of searching across platforms. They also express concern about the transient nature of content on these platforms, with movies and shows being frequently removed. Despite these issues, the speaker acknowledges the convenience of streaming but maintains a strong preference for physical media. They argue that owning a physical copy provides a level of certainty and access that streaming cannot guarantee. The paragraph ends with a reaffirmation of the speaker's admiration for James Rolfe and a closing statement on the ongoing debate between physical and digital media.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กPhysical Media

Physical media refers to tangible storage devices such as DVDs, Blu-rays, and VHS tapes that are used to store and play digital content. In the video, the speaker discusses their preference for physical media over streaming services, citing reasons like ownership, potential for better quality, and the absence of internet connectivity issues.

๐Ÿ’กStreaming Services

Streaming services are online platforms that provide content, such as movies and TV shows, delivered in a continuous flow of data over the internet without the need for physical media. The video discusses the convenience of streaming but also highlights its drawbacks, including the potential for content to be removed and the need for multiple subscriptions to access all desired content.

๐Ÿ’กBlu-ray

Blu-ray is a high-definition optical disc format used for storing high-resolution video and audio. It is often compared to DVDs in terms of quality and features. In this video, the speaker argues in favor of Blu-ray, citing its advantages such as resistance to scratching, increased storage capacity, and higher definition quality.

๐Ÿ’กDVD

DVD, or Digital Versatile Disc, is a digital optical disc data storage format that was widely used before the advent of Blu-ray. DVDs are typically smaller in storage capacity and lower in video quality compared to Blu-ray discs. The video contrasts DVDs with Blu-rays, discussing the nostalgia for DVD menus and extras, but also the limitations of DVDs in terms of storage and image quality.

๐Ÿ’กFormat War

A format war refers to a competition between different technological formats for the same product or service, often leading to consumer confusion and market fragmentation. In the context of the video, the speaker mentions the format war between Blu-ray and HD DVD, highlighting the historical precedent of competing formats.

๐Ÿ’กEncryption Key

An encryption key is a piece of data that is used to encrypt and decrypt digital content, ensuring that only authorized users can access the content. In the video, the speaker criticizes the need to renew the encryption key for Blu-ray discs, viewing it as an unnecessary complication.

๐Ÿ’กMenu Design

Menu design refers to the layout and navigation structure of the user interface for media content, such as DVDs and Blu-rays. The video discusses the evolution of menu design from interactive and feature-rich DVDs to simpler Blu-ray menus, with the speaker expressing a preference for the more elaborate DVD menus.

๐Ÿ’กBonus Features

Bonus features are additional content included with a movie or TV show, such as behind-the-scenes footage, director's commentary, deleted scenes, and trailers. The speaker argues that Blu-ray often provides more bonus features than DVDs, enhancing the overall viewing experience.

๐Ÿ’กCase Size

Case size refers to the physical dimensions of the packaging for media like DVDs and Blu-rays. The video discusses the evolution of case sizes, with the speaker noting that Blu-ray cases can sometimes be too small or too large, but also that this issue is not exclusive to Blu-ray as DVD cases also varied in size.

๐Ÿ’กRemote Control

A remote control is a device used to operate a television or media player from a distance. The video touches on the changes in remote control design, particularly with the introduction of Blu-ray, where some functions like pause and play were moved from a central button to dedicated buttons.

๐Ÿ’กBookmarks

Bookmarks are a feature that allows users to save their progress in a movie or video, enabling them to resume watching from the same point at a later time. The speaker discusses the bookmarks feature on Blu-ray, which can be variable depending on the movie and studio, and contrasts it with the lack of such a feature on DVDs.

Highlights

James Rolfe, also known as the Angry Video Game Nerd, is discussed as a favorite YouTuber.

The main topic is a critique of Rolfe's video on 'Top 10 Reasons Why Blu-ray Sucks'.

The speaker agrees with streaming services on convenience but criticizes the lack of desired content and the subscription costs.

Physical media fatigue is expressed, questioning the preference for VHS tapes.

The argument that Blu-ray should have offered more than just better image quality is presented.

Blu-ray's durability and resistance to scratching is highlighted as an advantage.

The capacity advantage of Blu-ray over DVDs is mentioned.

The speaker refutes the claim that Blu-ray menus are less interesting, citing interactive menus still exist.

The complaint about Blu-ray cases is addressed, noting that DVD cases also had issues.

The speaker defends Blu-ray's bonus features, stating they often exceed DVDs'.

The issue with the PS3's Blu-ray controls is identified as a specific problem, not a general one.

The requirement to renew the encryption key for Blu-ray playback is criticized.

The ownership of video formats by single companies is discussed, with VHS and Betamax as examples.

The name 'Blu-ray' is defended, explaining the technology behind the blue laser.

The bookmark feature of Blu-ray players is explained, countering the claim of its absence.

The presence of commercials and trailers on all video formats is pointed out.

The preference for streaming's instant access is contrasted with the inconvenience of physical media.

The idea of a single marketplace for all streaming services is proposed.

The issue of content removal from streaming services is highlighted as a significant problem.

The value of owning physical media is defended against the reliance on digital streaming.

Despite disagreements, the speaker expresses continued support for James Rolfe.

Transcripts

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you're watching fugitive redeye and

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welcome to another episode of redeye

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responds now the person I'm responding

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to today is someone I never would have

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seen myself responding to because it's

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one of my favorite youtubers of all time

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that being james rolfe cinemassacre

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better known as the angry video game

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nerd and keep in mind he is still one of

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my all-time favorite youtubers in fact

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he's probably my favorite youtuber if I

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were to have one but his most recent

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video made absolutely no sense to me and

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had a lot of glaring issues and I

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disagreed with many of the points he

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made so that's what we're gonna talk

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about today

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so we'll be responding to his video top

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10 reasons why blu-ray sucks also known

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within the video itself as top 10

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reasons why DVD is better than blu-ray

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although I'd say that that second title

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is less accurate than the first one

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because he does start by talking why

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dear but he kind of ends on the

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conclusion that streaming is better in

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general which I disagree with personally

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but we'll get to that here in a moment

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so let's just jump right into it it's

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kind of a strange thing to say for

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somebody who surrounds himself with VHS

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tapes but I'm kind of tired of physical

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media I'm tired of physical media that

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is really strange you're right who who

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are you and what the hell have you done

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with the real James no no I'm not gonna

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be that you know dramatic but yeah it is

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definitely strange for him to say but

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when it comes to watching stuff

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streaming wins for convenience

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I'd agree streaming does win for

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convenience for the most part but the

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problem is is a lot of streaming

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services don't have what you're looking

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for even though they have a lot on top

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of that they can just take stuff down at

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a moment's notice

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and there's all these different

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companies that have their own streaming

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services and they're not you know

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inclusive they're very different from

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each other and everyone has to have

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their own to the point where you're

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spending all sorts of money every month

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just to have all the [ย __ย ] services

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you want my complaint with blu-ray is

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that it came after DVD and should have

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been a whole lot better

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and aside from better image quality and

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probably a whole checklist of technical

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advantages it offered nothing new to

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impress me and there's several things

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that I personally think make blu-ray

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better number one they don't scratch as

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easily number two they have more

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capacity so you can put more on them

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typically and number three as you so

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rightfully mentioned they do have higher

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definition well here's my top 10

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reasons blu-ray is worse than DVD

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remember when DVDs had awesome menus

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this goes to show what can get done when

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somebody thinks hey we have this new

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technology we can make interactive menus

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okay yeah sure blu-ray menus are nowhere

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near as interesting as some DVD menus

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were but the thing is some DVD menus

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were annoying cuz it's like just let me

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get to the [ย __ย ] movie not to mention

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I'm pretty sure James did a you know

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what's [ย __ย ] about DVDs and one of

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his complaints were that the menus were

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too complicated so this is like directly

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contradicting that

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in addition there are actually some

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blu-rays that have interactive menus

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they're just not as common as they used

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to be because it's a niche thing that

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nobody really cares about anymore

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remember when DVDs were loaded with

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extras like documentaries trailers TV

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promos commentaries deleted scenes and

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bloopers short blu-rays had them too but

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not as often I don't know I've come

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across most blu-rays have the extras I

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don't know exactly what you're getting

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at here I mean yes there are some

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bare-bones blu-rays out there but there

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was a lot of bare-bones DVDs too in fact

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whenever something is released on both

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formats the blu-ray almost always has

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more bonus features than the DVD does

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for size cases they overcompensated for

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sure with blu-rays it's always too

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little or too much if you want that

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special edition with all the bonus

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features you'd better be prepared

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because it ain't gonna fit on your shelf

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that's only like specific like

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collector's editions a lot of special

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editions just have regular steel books

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and there was quite a few big DVD cases

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back in the day - sure not as much but

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hell there were big as repeat VHS cases

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remember those big-ass VHS cases they

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used to have the big sleeves the simple

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invention that existed since the

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beginning of compact discs CDs DVDs they

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all had the same thing it was a circle

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that holds the discs you push it it

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releases done what's so hard about that

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but then blu-ray came along and said hey

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let's complicate this let's make it a

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big pain in the ass so they came up with

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all kinds of new ways to reinvent the

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wheel like sleeves most blu-rays have

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that too in fact a lot of DVDs have

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these sleeve problems that you talk

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about - as you'll see here that I'm

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showing you so I'd say that it goes both

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ways I'd say that it goes both ways in

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fact I'm not entirely sure what you're

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on about because most blu-rays have the

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same kind of holders as DVDs I have a

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ps3 which I strictly use for watching

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movies keep in mind that ps3 comment

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because that's where a lot of his issues

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are gonna stem from so let's continue

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with this argument push the middle for

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pause and play push the left

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rewind and the right for fast-forward

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it's very intuitive and I love it but

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then blu-ray came along and messed it

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all up

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now for most blu-rays not all them but

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for most of them the middle circle does

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nothing now if I want to pause I have to

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press the dedicated pause button and

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then to play again I have to press the

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play button okay so first off blu-ray

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already existed when the ps3 came out

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that was a big selling point for into

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launches that had a [ย __ย ] blu-ray

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player number two

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that's a ps3 issue most definitely

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because on my Xbox one when I'm watching

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blu-rays on that they're the same

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controls as they are with the DVDs same

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thing with my standalone player it

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treats them exactly the same I really

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not sure why you think that that's a

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common thing across everything again

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that's just with your ps3 to play this

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BD which is a great abbreviation for

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blu-ray discs by the way you must renew

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the encryption key what the hell is an

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encryption key I need to unlock a movie

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that I bought perform a system software

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update to renew the encryption key no no

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thanks okay three problem as far as I

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can tell because both my Xbox one and my

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standalone player which keep in mind my

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standalone player has not been online

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once since I've owned it and it has

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never had this issue with any blu-ray

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I've ever popped into it so again this

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sounds like it's just a ps3 problem how

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do we get so casual about the idea of

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one company owning an entire format stop

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and think nobody owned VHS absolutely

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wrong VHS was owned by JVC and if I'm

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not mistaken Betamax was actually owned

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by Sony so you're wrong many formats are

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owned by you know one company and

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blu-rays are no different than that I

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think this argument is a moot point that

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does not work that's why we had the

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competitor HD DVD which lost but it was

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the first time in my life being aware

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that a format war was going on which was

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basically just one big pissing contest

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I think that's every single format war

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ever dude like Xbox versus PlayStation

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in every generation Sega versus Nintendo

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all just one big pissing contest I

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really don't see how you think that's

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the only format war that is blu-rays

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kind of a dumb name look at it's not

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even blue what's next red gray

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it's called blu-ray because the rave a

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laser that scans it is blue and DVDs

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were technically red ray so yeah there's

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already red ray it's just not called

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that sitting down and watching an entire

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movie from start to finish without

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having a stop is a luxury when you got

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the time it's great but when you can't

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you just gotta stop and come back to it

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later on DVD

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I rarely had a problem I'd and I've

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never had a problem with it on any of my

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blu-ray players as a new feature called

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bookmarks this feature varies depending

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on what movie it is and what studio

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released it so you have these obnoxious

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colored buttons that in theory you're

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supposed to hit during the movie to

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leave a bookmark marking until there's a

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video I've seen those buttons on my

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blu-ray player a remote but I had no

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idea what the [ย __ย ] they were supposed to

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be for so if anything it sounds like it

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lets you set multiple bookmarks which

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actually sounds better to me instead of

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just the one when you turn the player up

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back on so this sounds like a positive

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to me like you say you have issues with

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it like you know not working but again

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that sounds like it's a problem with

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your ps3 because I've never run into

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that issue on any of my players or

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consoles number one commercials and

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trailers wow this is nothing new every

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video format has had commercials and

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trailers in the beginning yes yes they

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have and I don't feel like blu-ray has

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an inordinately more amount I think that

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you're just picking and choosing here

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because literally every DVD I've ever

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popped in have commercials trailers FBI

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disclosures [ย __ย ] like that

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any MTV DVD I put in will not let me

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skip the MTV Home Video thing which I've

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seen millions of times because it's on

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every set they have and plays every time

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you started up and again those are DVDs

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not blu-rays that's a big win for

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streaming because on streaming you click

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on it and it just starts yeah but

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streaming doesn't have bonus features so

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it doesn't have one of the one of your

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complaints it doesn't have menus at all

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so again another one of your points just

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just thrown out the window there when

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you're praising streaming here I'm not

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even gonna bother with

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4k Ultra blu-ray discs at least not yet

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no me either I think that that's a waste

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of time

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dreaming is so convenient sometimes I'll

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even rent a movie on Amazon that I

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already own on DVD or blu-ray just so I

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don't have to go find it put it in and

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wait through all the commercials FBI

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warnings and trailers that sounds so

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ass-backwards to me but I mean I guess

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if you have the money for it certain

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things that could be better

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first of all browsing through Netflix

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Hulu Amazon Disney Plus for one movie or

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program like it could be searchable in

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an easier way see that's the thing

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you're getting at here all these

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different streaming services you don't

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seem to have a problem with the fact

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that you're paying all this money per

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month for all these different services

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that when you could just have one or

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just have a marketplace or something to

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have to pay for all these [ย __ย ]

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services which are constantly switching

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back and forth with rights on stuff is

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[ย __ย ] like depending on the device

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I'd like to see better integration so

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you can search across all your different

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streaming services and the reason

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they're not searchable and integrated is

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because they're owned by different

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companies they're all competing for each

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other because it's also a great big

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pissing contest so this is in a way a

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format war even though it's all for the

10:47

same format but it seems more often they

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keep taking movies and programs off of

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streaming services exactly that's a huge

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problem with streaming services my hopes

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would be that more streaming services

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include that type of bonus content too

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yeah that would be really cool so

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streaming is not perfect but I think

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it's better than physical media it's

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that comment where you say it's better

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than physical media that made me want to

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make this video in the first place

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because I wholeheartedly disagree

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physical media you buy it you pop it in

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it plays again all these issues you're

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having is because you're using a ps3 um

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with the trailers I'm pretty sure you're

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exaggerating a little bit yes I'm

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trailers some of them can be pretty

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unbearable but DVDs were pretty much in

11:29

the same league but I do agree trailers

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can be annoying so I'm not gonna

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completely dismiss that point but

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there's all these reasons why physical

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is still better and I in my opinion will

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always be better because we own

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something digitally you usually have to

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be connected to the Internet there's

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some things that'll let you down

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but again that's not streaming either

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that's you know when you buy something

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on like Xbox video or Amazon or

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something unless you want to buy the

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angry nerd blu-rays that's a nice plug

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I'm sure that you did that

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I'm sure that's intentional that you put

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a plug for your blu-ray at the end of a

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video shooting on blu-rays I do think

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that's mildly funny but I also think

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it's kind of dumb but yeah ultimately I

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love you james rolfe you're probably my

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favorite youtuber you're a big

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inspiration and I will still continue to

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support everything you do but I disagree

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with you fundamentally on a lot of this

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videos so I just thought I'd get that

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out there anyway it's been fugitive red

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I have a great day

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