Trump Gets VERY BAD NEWS in DC Civil Lawsuit

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20 Apr 202417:24

Summary

TLDRIn this legal analysis, Michael Popac discusses the ongoing legal challenges involving former President Donald Trump. The focus is on the civil lawsuit brought by the Metro and Capitol Police against Trump and others for alleged civil rights violations and injuries sustained on January 6th. Judge MAA has denied Trump's request to delay the civil case, asserting that the issue of official acts and immunity can be addressed without infringing on Trump's Fifth Amendment rights. The case is closely tied to a U.S. Supreme Court decision on whether Trump has immunity for official acts while in office, with an oral argument scheduled for April 25th. The summary also highlights upcoming significant dates in Trump's legal battles, including hearings on financial fraud allegations and potential criminal contempt charges.

Takeaways

  • 📝 Donald Trump's tweets and actions during his presidency are being scrutinized for potential civil rights violations related to the events of January 6th.
  • 🚨 The Metro and Capitol Police have brought civil suits against Trump and others, including Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys, for injuries and deaths sustained during the January 6th incident.
  • 🤔 Judge MAA in the DC Circuit Court has denied Trump's request to delay the civil lawsuits, focusing on the distinction between official and unofficial acts.
  • 🏛 The United States Supreme Court is set to decide on the issue of immunity for official acts by a former president, which could impact the civil cases against Trump.
  • 🔍 Discovery in the case, including the exchange of information and depositions, is allowed by Judge MAA to determine the nature of Trump's actions and potential immunity.
  • 📅 Judge MAA has set deadlines for Trump to provide details on his immunity defense and for the submission of a proposed protective order.
  • 🚫 Trump's request for an indefinite stay on the civil case was denied, with the judge arguing that the delay proposed by Trump was immoderate and oppressive.
  • 🎓 The judge emphasized that the Discovery process would not implicate Trump's Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
  • 📆 Significant dates in April 2024, including oral arguments at the Supreme Court and hearings in various cases involving Trump, highlight a busy period in the legal landscape surrounding the former president.
  • 🌎 The outcome of these legal proceedings could set precedents for future cases involving immunity and official acts of the president, with broader implications for the balance of power and accountability in the U.S. legal system.

Q & A

  • What is the primary issue in the civil lawsuit brought by the metro and Capitol Police against Donald Trump?

    -The primary issue is whether Donald Trump's tweets and actions on January 6th, which allegedly led to injuries and deaths, were official acts during his presidency. This would determine if he has immunity from the civil suit.

  • What is the significance of the United States Supreme Court's April 25th oral argument in relation to this case?

    -The Supreme Court's argument is focused on the question of whether a former president has immunity for official acts while in office. This directly impacts the civil cases against Donald Trump, as it will clarify the scope of immunity for his actions.

  • Why did Judge MAA deny Donald Trump's request to delay the civil lawsuits?

    -Judge MAA applied the appropriate factors and determined that the request for an indefinite stay was not justified. The judge found that the relationship between the civil and criminal cases did not overlap significantly, and that the burden and hardship would fall on the plaintiffs if the case were delayed.

  • What is the position of Donald Trump regarding his tweets made from his personal account?

    -Donald Trump has taken the position that his tweets, even from a personal account, were official acts. This is significant as it could potentially provide him with immunity for those acts.

  • What is the role of the DC Circuit Court of Appeals in this case?

    -The DC Circuit Court of Appeals had to determine whether immunity applied to Donald Trump's actions and what information or record was needed from the trial court level to make that determination. It provided instructions for Judge MAA to continue with the case.

  • What is the deadline set by Judge MAA for Donald Trump to provide a detailed description of the basis for his immunity defense?

    -By May 1, 2024, Donald Trump is required to provide plaintiffs with a detailed description of the basis for his immunity defense, identifying witnesses and documents.

  • What is the significance of the April 26, 2024 deadline in the context of this case?

    -On April 26, 2024, the parties are to submit a proposed protective order ensuring that any discovery responses from defendant Trump are kept under seal, and they must submit a joint status report about a proposed schedule for completing discovery related to the immunity inquiry.

  • Why did Judge MAA deny the request for an indefinite stay, citing it as a 'new trick' of Donald Trump?

    -Judge MAA denied the request because it essentially represented an indefinite extension of time without a valid reason. The judge pointed out that Trump could manage multiple legal matters simultaneously and that the requested delay was immoderate and oppressive.

  • What is the connection between the civil case brought by the metro and Capitol Police and the criminal case involving Donald Trump?

    -The connection lies in the issue of official acts and immunity. Both cases involve determining whether Donald Trump's actions were official acts during his presidency, which would grant him immunity from civil and criminal suits.

  • What is the relevance of the United States Supreme Court's decision on immunity to the civil case before Judge MAA?

    -The Supreme Court's decision on immunity will help clarify whether there is such a thing as official act immunity and if Donald Trump's actions fall under this category. This will directly impact the civil case as it may determine the outcome and the scope of discovery allowed.

  • What is the significance of the promotional content for Lomi in the script?

    -The promotional content for Lomi, which transforms food scraps into nutrient-rich food for gardens, is a sponsored message within the script. It is not directly related to the legal discussion but serves as a commercial break or advertisement.

Outlines

00:00

📜 Civil Lawsuits and Presidential Immunity

The first paragraph discusses the legal challenges surrounding Donald Trump's tweets and actions during his presidency, particularly in relation to the January 6th Capitol riots. It covers the ongoing civil lawsuits brought by the Metro and Capitol Police, seeking damages for injuries and deaths, and the question of whether Trump has immunity from such suits. The paragraph also touches on the role of the Supreme Court in determining the scope of presidential immunity and how Judge MAA has denied Trump's request to delay the civil cases, allowing for the discovery process to begin and addressing the issue of official acts.

05:01

🚫 Denying Indefinite Stay in Civil Cases

The second paragraph delves into the legal strategy of seeking an indefinite stay in civil cases, a tactic employed by Donald Trump. It discusses Judge MAA's decision not to grant such a stay, emphasizing the need to resolve the matter without infringing on Trump's Fifth Amendment rights. The judge's order is highlighted, which outlines the process for determining what constitutes an official act and its implications for immunity. The paragraph also mentions an advertising segment for Lomi, a kitchen appliance that transforms food scraps into plant food, and its promotion through a discount code for listeners.

10:04

🤔 Evaluating the Factors for a Stay

The third paragraph outlines the four factors Judge MAA considered when evaluating the request for a stay in the civil case: the relationship between the civil and criminal cases, the burden on the court, the hardships on the parties, and the duration of the requested stay. The judge concluded that the civil case's focus on official acts would not unduly burden the court or Trump's rights, and that the plaintiffs have already waited a considerable amount of time for justice. It also sets new dates for the submission of discovery and status reports, indicating a move forward in the case.

15:05

🗓 Upcoming Legal Milestones for Trump

The fourth and final paragraph provides a timeline of significant upcoming legal events in Donald Trump's cases. It mentions a hearing regarding the legitimacy of Trump's alleged $175 million Post-it bond, a hearing in the New York election interference criminal case, the Supreme Court's oral argument on presidential immunity, and the deadlines set by Judge MAA for discovery and reporting in the civil case brought by the Metro and Capitol Police. The paragraph concludes with an invitation to follow the legal AF podcast for further insights and analysis on these matters.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Donald Trump

Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States, is a central figure in the video's discussion. The video revolves around legal issues concerning his tweets and actions during his presidency, particularly in relation to the January 6th Capitol riots and subsequent civil lawsuits.

💡Civil Suit

A civil suit is a type of legal action between two or more parties, typically seeking monetary compensation or specific performance rather than criminal sanctions. In the context of the video, it refers to the lawsuits brought by the metro and Capitol Police against Donald Trump and others for injuries and deaths sustained during the January 6th incident.

💡Immunity

Immunity in a legal context refers to exemption from certain liabilities or consequences. The video discusses whether Donald Trump has immunity from civil suits for his official acts while he was president, a matter that is being deliberated upon by the Supreme Court.

💡January 6th

January 6th refers to the date of the attack on the U.S. Capitol in 2021, which is a pivotal event in the civil suits discussed in the video. The injuries and deaths of police officers during this event are the basis for the civil actions against Donald Trump and others.

💡Supreme Court

The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest court in the federal judiciary and is mentioned in the video as it will be making a decision on the issue of immunity for official acts by a former president. This decision could impact the civil cases against Donald Trump.

💡Official Acts

Official acts refer to actions taken by a public official in their capacity as a representative of the government. The video discusses whether Donald Trump's tweets and other actions were considered official acts during his presidency, which is a key factor in determining his immunity from civil suits.

💡Discovery

Discovery is a pre-trial phase in a lawsuit where parties exchange information, including documents, witness statements, and depositions. In the context of the video, it is mentioned as a process that will be allowed by Judge MAA to determine the nature of Donald Trump's actions and whether they were official.

💡Fifth Amendment

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals from self-incrimination. The video discusses how Judge MAA has structured the discovery process to not implicate Donald Trump's Fifth Amendment rights, focusing solely on the issue of official acts.

💡Stay

A stay is a court-ordered temporary halt or delay of a legal proceeding. In the video, it is mentioned that Donald Trump requested an indefinite stay of the civil case until other legal matters are resolved, a request that was denied by Judge MAA.

💡Proud Boys

The Proud Boys is a far-right organization mentioned in the video as one of the groups involved in the civil suits against Donald Trump. Enrique Tarrio, the former chairman of the Proud Boys, is also mentioned in relation to the civil rights violations alleged in the suits.

💡KKK Act

The Ku Klux Klan Act, or KKK Act, is a U.S. federal law that provides for the enforcement of the Fourteenth Amendment. The video mentions it in the context of a civil suit seeking monetary relief and damages for alleged civil rights violations committed by Donald Trump and others.

Highlights

Donald Trump's tweets during his presidency are being considered as official acts, which could grant him immunity from civil suits related to the January 6th Capitol riots.

The Metro and Capitol Police have brought a civil suit against Donald Trump for injuries and deaths suffered during the January 6th incident.

Judge MAA in the DC Circuit Court denied Donald Trump's attempts to delay civil lawsuits, allowing the case to proceed.

The case involves a request for monetary relief and damages under the KKK Act for alleged civil rights violations by Trump and others, including Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys.

The United States Supreme Court is set to decide on the question of immunity for official acts by a former president, which could impact the civil cases against Trump.

Judge MAA applied appropriate factors and decided to allow discovery in the case to determine if Trump's actions were official acts and if he is immune from those acts.

Trump's argument that his tweets, even from a personal account, were official acts is a key point in determining immunity.

The DC Circuit Court of Appeals has instructed Judge MAA to continue with the case and develop a record on the issue of official acts.

Judge MAA's order allows for discovery without implicating Trump's Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

The judge set new dates for Trump to provide a detailed description of his immunity defense and identify witnesses and documents.

Trump is facing multiple legal challenges, including a hearing on the legitimacy of a $175 million Post-it bond and a potential criminal contempt charge in New York.

The United States Supreme Court's April 25th oral argument will focus solely on the issue of official act immunity for former presidents.

Judge MAA emphasized that the relationship between the civil and criminal actions does not overlap significantly, allowing the civil case to move forward.

The judge rejected Trump's request for an indefinite stay, citing it as an unreasonable delay and hardship to the plaintiffs.

The case will proceed with discovery and depositions focused on determining the nature of Trump's actions as official or non-official acts.

Judge MAA's decision is consistent with the DC Court of Appeals' direction and takes into account the Supreme Court's upcoming ruling on immunity.

The final page of Judge MAA's order outlines new deadlines for the parties to submit a proposed protective order and a joint status report regarding the schedule for completing discovery.

Transcripts

00:00

Michael popac with a legal AF hotake are

00:02

Donald Trump's tweets when he was

00:04

president official acts does he have

00:07

immunity from civil suit brought by the

00:10

metro and Capitol Police for the

00:13

injuries and deaths that they suffered

00:14

during Jan 6th will the United States

00:17

Supreme Court in its decision about

00:20

immunity impact the civil cases that's

00:23

something that judge MAA in the DC uh

00:27

circuit court has resolved at least for

00:30

today in denying Donald Trump's attempts

00:33

to delay further the civil lawsuits the

00:36

one seeking monetary relief and damages

00:39

under the KKK act for civil rights

00:42

violations committed as alleged by

00:45

Donald Trump and others including

00:47

Enrique tario the proud boys we got a we

00:50

got a beautiful coupling there of

00:51

Enrique tario and the former president

00:54

of the United States both asking judge

00:56

MAA to stay the civil case don't let it

01:00

go forward any further for an indefinite

01:03

stay until we figure out what's going on

01:05

down in the DC election interference

01:07

case which hasn't even been set for

01:09

trial in other words uh don't ever call

01:11

us judge we're not going to we don't

01:13

want to participate in this civil case

01:15

at all judge has applying the factors

01:17

that are appropriate which I'll go over

01:19

in this hot take has denied that request

01:22

let me first back up and tell you what

01:24

this case is about or refresh your

01:26

memory about it and then I'll dive into

01:28

the connection between this case and and

01:30

the United States Supreme Court and its

01:32

April 25th oral argument and ultimate

01:35

decision about whether Donald Trump has

01:37

immunity for official acts while he was

01:39

in

01:41

office this is a case brought by the

01:43

metro and Capitol Police it's two

01:45

different cases have that have sort of

01:47

been joined together in front of Judge

01:48

MAA both are seeking civil damages

01:52

monetary damages from Donald Trump and

01:55

others like the proud boys and the

01:56

oathkeepers and that type of thing that

01:59

case had been sort of held up in a

02:02

Twilight area while the U Circuit Court

02:07

um of appeals in the DC Circuit Court

02:09

was determining whether immunity applied

02:13

to Donald Trump's actions and what

02:15

information or record they needed

02:17

created in from the trial court level in

02:19

order to make that determination it

02:21

eventually well I say about six or eight

02:23

months ago got returned to judge MAA

02:26

with instructions that he was to

02:28

continue with the case develop the

02:30

record about and and again you're going

02:33

to you're going to get a deja vu all

02:34

over again moment here about whether

02:36

Donald Trump's actions that day on Jan 6

02:39

that caused the injury bodily and

02:42

sometimes Grievous bodily injury to the

02:44

police officers and others was the

02:46

result of official acts while he was

02:49

then president of the United States this

02:51

is exactly the only and sole issue on

02:54

appeal with the United States Supreme

02:56

Court because the United States Supreme

02:58

Court is considering with oral AR

02:59

argument on the 25th of April right here

03:01

on the mightest touch Network whether

03:04

the the following question whether a

03:06

former president somebody now can uh has

03:11

immunity for official acts while he was

03:14

President that's all the United States

03:16

Supreme Court cares about all the other

03:18

arguments Donald Trump raised uh about

03:21

uh oh I needed to be impeached and

03:22

convicted by the Senate first before I

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could be uh a criminal case could be

03:26

brought against me I have absolute

03:28

immunity about everything it's all out

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the window the only thing they want to

03:31

know is is there such a thing as

03:33

official act immunity and was anything

03:36

that he did an official act or was it

03:37

outside of it this is an issue this

03:39

official act issue that all of the

03:41

courts have been struggling with even

03:43

judge MAA as instructed by his bosses at

03:46

the intermediary appell court has had to

03:48

struggle with were there official acts

03:51

by Donald Trump and is there immunity

03:53

for those official acts it sort of

03:54

dovetails fits together with the United

03:56

States Supreme Court argument and what

03:58

judge maida said in his in his order

04:00

which I'm going to read to you in a

04:01

minute is that I I'm going I'm going to

04:05

allow as directed by my bosses at the DC

04:08

court of appeals I'm going to allow

04:10

Discovery in this case which is the

04:12

exchange of of information depositions

04:15

request to produce documents I'm going

04:17

to allow that on the issue to get to the

04:20

bottom of official acts of Donald Trump

04:23

and whether there is immunity and on the

04:26

official acts particularly Donald Trump

04:28

is worried about his tweets no surprise

04:31

he's worried that his he's taken the

04:33

position that his tweets even though

04:35

from a personal account were official

04:38

acts it's the same position as the judge

04:40

noted in his order that he's taking in

04:42

the criminal case he's saying everything

04:44

he did was an official act no matter how

04:47

he did it what platform he used private

04:49

or public everything campaigning or not

04:52

campaigning everything he did as long as

04:54

he was drawn a paycheck from occupying

04:57

the Oval Office was official act all

05:00

right so the judge said I can resolve

05:04

all of that without implicating your

05:07

Donald Trump's Fifth Amendment right

05:09

against self-incrimination you're not

05:10

going to have to give a deposition about

05:12

the merits of the case we're only trying

05:15

to get to the bottom of what was an

05:17

official act maybe you have immunity for

05:19

that maybe you don't what wasn't an

05:21

official act because everybody agrees if

05:23

it's not an official act there's no way

05:25

there's immunity for it even the United

05:27

States Supreme Court ultimately will

05:28

will concur with the DC court of appeals

05:31

in their decision led by judge pan that

05:34

found exactly that what they're

05:35

struggling with where the rubber meets

05:38

the Constitutional road is

05:40

over what what is or what is not an

05:43

official act so judge MAA said we can

05:46

sort all of that out about your tweets

05:49

and the impact on the on the attacks on

05:52

Jan 6 on these plaintiffs um and their

05:54

surviving relatives we can sort all that

05:57

out it doesn't implicate your criminal

05:59

case

06:00

and you've asked for an indefinite stay

06:02

this is a new trick of Donald Trump's in

06:04

every Court he wants an indefinite stay

06:07

pointing to another of his criminal

06:09

cases so in moral Lago he tells judge

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Canon I can't get around to

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participating in the classified

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information procedures act uh process

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the sea

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process at the heart of the maral Lago

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Espionage and obstruction of justice um

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case until I don't know eight or nine

06:29

months or sometime after I'm done in New

06:32

York with the stormmy Daniels election

06:35

interference case I mean of course uh

06:38

Jack Smith said that's ridiculous and

06:40

that is basically an indefinite

06:42

extension of time for no reason he's got

06:44

different Council he can do things

06:46

simultaneously he can walk chew gum and

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this episode here he's making a similar

08:37

argument he's saying wait until some

08:40

indefinite period after a trial that

08:42

hasn't even yet been set by judge chuin

08:46

which is currently stayed by the Supreme

08:48

Court whenever we get around to that

08:50

case your honor we'll come back to you

08:52

on the civil case and judge made us said

08:53

no way that is such an basically an

08:57

indefinite extension and under the

09:00

factor analysis of whether I'm going to

09:02

Grant or stay or not or stay or not I'm

09:04

not going to grant that but it's just

09:06

another example of you know these

09:08

overlapping vend diagram issues coming

09:11

back over and over again at different

09:13

courts so here we have the Twitter

09:14

account and whether that was official or

09:16

not official we've got immunity in this

09:19

case the case of the capital and Metro

09:20

Police against Donald Trump and others

09:22

we've got Donald Trump requesting

09:24

another stay trying to play one case off

09:26

the other you know we've got all the

09:28

elements all the makings right here let

09:29

me read to you why judge MAA uh denied

09:34

it and particularly he said on the

09:35

immunity issue I am not going to get to

09:38

resolve the immunity issue about whether

09:40

Donald Trump had immunity for any of

09:42

these things until after the United

09:44

States Supreme Court which is his boss

09:46

makes their ultimate ruling about

09:47

immunity so I will have the benefit of

09:49

that because Donald Trump was saying

09:50

well you'll be tied up because you'll be

09:52

making decisions you know we're still

09:54

waiting for guidance from the Supreme

09:56

Court he says yeah I'm not making my

09:58

decision before the United States

09:59

Supreme Court my bosses make their

10:00

decision so let's let me read to you

10:03

from the uh Salient portions it's a

10:05

relatively short order it's um judge Ma

10:09

has been presiding over lots of cases he

10:10

presided over the um oathkeepers case

10:13

both of them that led to the convictions

10:15

of the leaders of the oathkeepers so

10:17

he's got a vast experience about Jan 6

10:19

in his memorandum and

10:21

Order he says there's four factors in

10:24

evaluating a stay the relationship

10:26

between the civil case which is this

10:27

case and the criminal case which is the

10:29

DC election interference case with Jack

10:31

Smith the burden on the court the

10:34

hardships or inequalities the parties

10:36

would face if a stay was granted right

10:39

it's harder on the plaintiffs because

10:40

they've been waiting a long time for

10:42

justice and the duration of the

10:43

requested stay you can see where these

10:46

factors cut right as to the first one

10:49

the judge said the relationship between

10:50

the civil and criminal actions does not

10:52

overlap as much as Donald Trump says

10:54

because he's only going to be giving

10:56

Discovery and deposition testimony about

10:58

official versus non-official acts and

11:01

that doesn't implicate the Fifth

11:03

Amendment privilege and it's consistent

11:05

with what he's doing in the in the

11:07

prosecution the burden on the court the

11:09

judge says I'm not burdened by any of

11:11

this this is what I get paid to do uh I

11:14

I resolve constitutional issues every

11:16

day and I'm willing to take it on three

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the hardship on the parties obviously

11:21

that tips well in favor of the

11:23

plaintiffs it's a tremendous hardship

11:25

for them to have their Justice delayed

11:27

and for the duration of the requested

11:28

stay it's it's unlimited it's not like

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he's asking for 990 days he's asking for

11:33

I'll get back to you whenever I get

11:34

tried in the other case maybe and the

11:36

other case hasn't as I said even been

11:38

set for trial so the judge said um that

11:43

his Fifth Amendment privileges are not

11:44

being implicated because the only thing

11:46

this limited Discovery in the case is

11:48

over based on the directions of the

11:51

appell court is on immunity and official

11:54

versus unofficial acts basically one

11:56

major element at the United States

11:58

Supreme Court level for the the April

12:00

25th argument uh I talked to you about

12:02

burden on the court let's talk about

12:04

duration of the stay because this keeps

12:05

coming up over and over again with

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Donald

12:08

Trump here that he says on uh judge ma

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says on page seven defendant contends

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that an indefinite stay is warranted

12:15

because he is the quote the first former

12:18

president and major party nominee in

12:20

history to be criminally charged for

12:21

conduct that occurred while in

12:23

presidential office well that's true the

12:25

special council's case he says

12:27

constitutes an extraordinary public

12:29

moment and that he relies on language

12:32

from a case involving Bill Clinton

12:34

versus Paula Jones in which the court

12:36

said the Supreme Court said especially

12:38

in cases of extraordinary public moment

12:40

a plaintiff may be required to submit to

12:42

delay not immoderate in extent and not

12:46

oppressive in its consequences if the

12:48

public welfare or convenience will there

12:50

thereby be promoted and that's what the

12:52

judge took issue with he said right if

12:54

you can suggest a delay that's not

12:57

immoderate um in EXT

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and not oppressive in its consequences

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and he says you but you've proposed a

13:05

delay that is is immoderate in its

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extent in other words it's it's unduly

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long and it's

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oppressive in its consequences to the

13:15

public welfare and doing

13:16

Justice um and so he of course he uses

13:19

their own case against them in that uh

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he talks about the criminal immunity

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case Donald Trump up at the United

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States Supreme Court and on page eight

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uh judge ma says defendant believes that

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a resolution of that issue before the

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United States Supreme Court May inform

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the scope of Discovery or may dispose of

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this case altogether uh but judge ma

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says there is no reason to wait on the

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Supreme Court's decision this court is

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unlikely to make an immunity

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determination by the end of the Supreme

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Court's term which ends in June thus if

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the Court's ruling on criminal immunity

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is relevant to the outcome here it can

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easily be applied and then finally um

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he's ordering them to move this case

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forward as a starting point of Discovery

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here's the new dates set by judge ma as

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of as of this week by May 1 2024 while

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he'll still be on trial up in New York

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defendant Trump shall provide plaintiffs

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with a detailed description of the basis

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for his immunity defense identifying

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Witnesses and documents this is all on

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the final page uh page nine uh uh

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identifying uh uh Witnesses and

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documents presently known to his Council

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and what limited Discovery he will

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require uh by April 26 2024 that's a

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busy week I'll talk to you about that in

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a minute the party shall submit a

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proposed protective order that at a

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minimum ensures that any Discovery

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responses from defendant Trump shall

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mean under seal further order of the

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court and submit a joint status report

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about a proposed schedule for completing

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Discovery uh relating to the immunity

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inquiry standard stuff but let me just

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talk about that April 26 date for a

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minute minute because it's going to be a

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very busy time on the mest touch Network

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on un legal AF and more importantly for

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Donald Trump uh April the 20 if you're

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playing at home take these dates down

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April the

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22nd is going to be the hearing in front

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of Judge engoron about whether Donald

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Trump's alleged $175 million Post-it

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bond is legitimate or not and is

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sufficient or not to stop the

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enforcement of the $465 million civil

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fraud judgment against him and his

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companies that's on the 22nd on April

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the

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23rd uh judge Maran in the New York

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election interference criminal case is

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holding a hearing that Donald Trump

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needs to attend on whether he should be

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held in criminal contempt and

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potentially jailed in the New York uh

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