Turley: You have to wonder if the judge is having second thoughts

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13 May 202409:50

Summary

TLDRThe transcript revolves around a legal analysis of President Trump's court case, where he has proclaimed his innocence and labeled the proceedings as a 'political witch hunt.' The discussion involves the potential for the appellate division to intervene, the likelihood of which is deemed low. Legal experts debate the strategy of the trial judge, the lack of clarity on the actual crimes, and the reliance on Michael Cohen's testimony. They also touch upon the prosecution's tactics, the possibility of a directed verdict due to insufficient evidence, and the political implications of the case. The conversation suggests that the case may be more about political posturing than legal substance, with Trump describing it as rigged and a disgrace to the country.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“œ The transcript discusses a pre-election event from 2016 and legal analysis related to President Trump's court case where he declares his innocence.
  • 🚨 President Trump claims the case against him is a political witch hunt and calls for the appellate division to intervene, though it's unlikely.
  • πŸ€” The strategy of the trial judge seems to be to push through the trial despite numerous mistakes and problems, aiming for a verdict.
  • πŸ” The failure to find any legal crimes committed and the inability to connect the events with the actual charges are highlighted issues.
  • πŸ˜• There is criticism of the prosecution's tactics, including the introduction of an agreement to imply evidence that can't be presented.
  • πŸ“‰ The prosecution's case is seen as weak, with a potential motion for a directed verdict due to insufficient evidence to support a crime.
  • πŸ’­ Speculation that the prosecution's strategy relies on Michael Cohen's testimony to establish a credibility question for the jury.
  • 🀨 Doubts are expressed about the credibility of Michael Cohen, and it's suggested that prosecutors may not find him believable.
  • πŸ‘¨β€βš–οΈ The integrity of the prosecution's office is questioned, with suggestions that the case is politically motivated.
  • πŸ“° Headlines from 'Newsweek' are mentioned, indicating that the prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, has not proven his allegations.
  • πŸ‘₯ Testimonies from individuals who worked for President Trump and the Trump Organization are consistent in describing their experiences as positive.

Q & A

  • What does President Trump claim about the ongoing legal proceedings against him?

    -President Trump claims that he is innocent and that the legal proceedings are a political witch hunt.

  • What is the general sentiment expressed by the participants in the conversation regarding the likelihood of the appellate division stepping in?

    -The participants find it unlikely for the appellate division to step in, as it is highly unusual, but not totally out of the question.

  • What is the strategy that the trial judge is suggested to be employing?

    -The trial judge is suggested to be employing a strategy to steamroll through the problems, including the failure to find any legal crimes committed and the ambiguity of the indictment.

  • What is the potential outcome if the prosecution fails to prove the case beyond reasonable doubt?

    -If the prosecution fails to prove the case, the defense may make a motion for a directed verdict, arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a crime, which could lead to an acquittal.

  • What is the prosecution's apparent strategy regarding Michael Cohen's testimony?

    -The prosecution's strategy is to use Michael Cohen's testimony to suggest that he intentionally committed fraud and tried to conceal campaign violations, leaving the credibility question and the fact-finding to the jury.

  • What does Jonathan Turley suggest about the prosecution's tactics and the judge's potential response?

    -Jonathan Turley suggests that the prosecution is proving things not in evidence and leaving suggestions of things that are, which is improper. He also implies that the judge might be having second thoughts about the case due to the antics and the political nature of the case.

  • What does President Trump describe the trial as, and why does he say it is interfering with his campaign?

    -President Trump describes the trial as rigged, dishonest, and a disgrace to both New York and the country. He claims it is election interference and likens it to something that would happen in a third-world country, not the USA, stating he should be campaigning instead of being in court.

  • What is the concern raised about the integrity of the prosecution's office?

    -The concern raised is that the prosecution's office, led by Alvin Bragg, has not come close to proving what it alleged, and the case is seen as completely political.

  • What is the role of the agreement with the accountant in the trial?

    -The agreement with the accountant is introduced by the prosecution to suggest to the jury that they have more substantial evidence than what is presented, even though this is not the case.

  • What is the significance of the judge's instruction to Michael Cohen to stop his public antics?

    -The judge's instruction indicates a concern about the impact of Cohen's public behavior on the trial's proceedings and suggests a potential discomfort with how the case is being conducted.

  • What is the implication of Michael Cohen's positive remarks about his time working for President Trump?

    -Cohen's positive remarks are consistent with other testimonies from people who have worked for Trump, suggesting that despite the legal issues, the experience of working for Trump and his organization was generally enjoyed.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ“š Legal Analysis and Trump's Innocence Declaration

The first paragraph discusses ongoing legal analysis and President Trump's declaration of innocence in a court case. Trump labels the situation a 'political witch hunt' and calls for the appellate division to intervene, which is considered unlikely. The conversation suggests the trial judge's strategy is to push through the trial despite numerous issues, including a failure to find any legal crimes committed and the ambiguity of the indictment. The discussion also touches on the potential for appellate review and the possibility of Trump's acquittal.

05:03

🎭 Cohen's Testimony and the Strategy of the Prosecution

The second paragraph focuses on Michael Cohen's testimony and the prosecution's strategy. It is suggested that the case hinges on Cohen's word against others and that the prosecution may not find him entirely believable. The strategy is to have Cohen check a box, implying his involvement, and then present it to the jury as a credibility question. The paragraph also includes criticism of the prosecution's handling of the case and the judge's potential second thoughts about the proceedings. It concludes with President Trump's comments on the trial being rigged and a disgrace, and a discussion on the integrity of the prosecution's office.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Pre-election

Pre-election refers to the period leading up to an election. In the context of the video, it suggests that certain events or allegations were made before an election took place, potentially influencing its outcome. The script mentions 'PRE-ELECTION, THOUSAND 16', indicating events that occurred before the 2016 election.

πŸ’‘Innocence

Innocence implies the state of being not guilty of a crime or offense. President Trump is quoted in the script as declaring his innocence, which is central to the video's theme of a legal trial and the political implications surrounding it.

πŸ’‘Political Witch Hunt

A political witch hunt is a campaign or investigation that is perceived as an unjustified or excessive pursuit of individuals for political reasons. In the script, President Trump claims that the legal proceedings against him are a 'political witch hunt', suggesting his belief that the case is motivated by politics rather than legal merit.

πŸ’‘Appellate Division

The appellate division is a section of a court system that hears appeals from lower court decisions. The script discusses the possibility of the appellate division stepping in, which relates to the legal process and the potential for higher courts to review and correct lower court decisions.

πŸ’‘Legal Crimes

Legal crimes are acts that are prohibited by law and are punishable by the state. The script mentions the failure to find any legal crimes committed, which is a critical aspect of the legal debate and the basis for the charges being discussed.

πŸ’‘Indictment

An indictment is a formal charge or accusation of a serious crime, made by a prosecutor after a grand jury has voted to bring it. The script refers to the ambiguity of the indictment, which is significant as it pertains to the clarity and specificity of the charges against the accused.

πŸ’‘Directed Verdict

A directed verdict is a court's decision to rule in favor of one party in a case, due to insufficient evidence being presented by the opposing side. In the script, there is a discussion about the defense possibly making a motion for a directed verdict, which would be a pivotal moment in the trial's outcome.

πŸ’‘Credibility

Credibility refers to the quality of being believable or trustworthy. The script discusses the issue of Michael Cohen's credibility as a witness, which is a key factor in determining the weight of his testimony in court.

πŸ’‘Prosecution

Prosecution refers to the legal team that represents the state or federal government in a criminal case and has the responsibility to prove the defendant's guilt. The integrity and strategy of the prosecution's office is questioned in the script, highlighting the scrutiny they are under in this case.

πŸ’‘Election Interference

Election interference is the act of disrupting or influencing the outcome of an election, often through illicit means. President Trump alleges that the trial is a form of 'election interference', suggesting that it is an attempt to affect the political process.

πŸ’‘Third World Country

A term historically used to describe a nation with an economy that's less developed and a lower standard of living compared to other countries. President Trump uses this term in the script to criticize the conduct of the trial, implying that the situation is not befitting of a developed nation like the USA.

πŸ’‘Campaign Violations

Campaign violations refer to actions that go against the rules and regulations governing political campaigns. The script alludes to the concealment of campaign violations, which is a significant aspect of the charges being discussed in the context of the trial.

Highlights

President Trump declares his innocence and labels the situation a 'political witch hunt'.

The possibility of the appellate division stepping in is considered, though it is deemed unlikely.

Concerns are raised about the trial judge's strategy and the failure to find any legal crimes committed.

The indictment is criticized for its ambiguity and not specifying the actual crimes.

The potential for appellate review to address issues in the trial is discussed.

The reliance on Michael Cohen's testimony, despite doubts about his credibility, is highlighted.

The prosecution's tactics are questioned, including their handling of evidence and the introduction of an agreement to imply guilt.

The expectation of a motion for a directed verdict due to insufficient evidence is mentioned.

President Trump's criticism of the trial as rigged, dishonest, and a disgrace is noted.

The integrity of the prosecution's office is questioned, with suggestions of political motivations.

Alvin Bragg's competence as a prosecutor is acknowledged, despite the controversy surrounding the case.

Speculation about the judge's potential second thoughts about the case and its implications for his legacy.

Concerns about the judge's family connections to progressive activism and their influence on the case.

The mention of Michael Cohen's positive remarks about his time working for the Trump Organization.

The consistency of testimonies from individuals who worked with Trump, indicating a generally positive experience.

Transcripts

00:00

CONFIRMS THAT WAS PRE-ELECTION

00:07

THOUSAND 16.

00:08

>> Dana: WE HAVE OUR LEGAL

00:10

ANALYSIS CONTINUING.

00:12

WE ADD JOHN YU TO THE

00:15

CONVERSATION.

00:16

PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE COURT

00:17

TODAY DECLARING HIS INNOCENCE.

00:19

>> I'M INNOCENT.

00:22

THIS IS A POLITICAL WITCH HUNT.

00:23

NOBODY HAS SEEN ANYTHING LIKE

00:25

IT.

00:25

I TELL YOU WHAT, THE APPELLATE

00:29

DIVISION, THE JUDGES SHOULD STEP

00:30

IN.

00:30

WHAT THIS JUDGE IS GETTING AWAY

00:32

WITH IS DISGRACEFUL, INCLUDING

00:35

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 100,000

00:38

PEOPLE IN NEW JERSEY.

00:39

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THEIR

00:41

SUPPORT.

00:42

>> Dana: IS IT POSSIBLE THE

00:44

APPELLATE DIVISION WOULD STEP IN

00:47

HERE?

00:48

IT IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL BUT NOT

00:49

TOTALLY OUT OF THE QUESTION.

00:50

>> I THINK IT IS UNLIKELY.

00:53

I THINK WHAT THE COURT WILL DO

00:57

IS LET MERCHAN FINISH THE TRIAL,

01:00

GET A VERDICT AND HIS CASE IS SO

01:04

RIDDLED WITH MISTAKES AND

01:06

PROBLEMS THE APPELLATE COURT

01:08

WOULD HAVE TO PING-PONG THIS

01:09

CASE BACK AND FORTH REPEATEDLY

01:11

TO TRY TO FIX ALL THE ERRORS AS

01:13

THEY WENT ON.

01:14

PART OF THAT IS THE TRIAL

01:16

JUDGE'S STRATEGY HERE IS TO

01:18

STEAM ROLL THROUGH THE PROBLEMS,

01:20

THE ONES WE'VE BEEN HEARING

01:21

ABOUT ON YOUR PANEL THIS

01:23

MORNING.

01:23

THE FAILURE TO FIND ANY KIND OF

01:25

LEGAL CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN

01:27

COMMITTED.

01:27

FAILURE TO CONNECT WHAT HAPPENED

01:29

LAST WEEK WITH THE EXPLOSIVE

01:33

STORMY DANIELS YESTERDAY WITH

01:35

THE ACTUAL CHARGES . THE

01:38

AMBIGUITY OF THE INDICTMENT.

01:39

NOT TELLING TRUMP WHAT THE REAL

01:40

CRIMES ARE.

01:41

THIS WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR

01:43

APPELLATE REVIEW.

01:46

MAYBE MERCHAN WILL COME TO HIS

01:48

SENSES AND ACQUIT TRUMP.

01:50

>> Dana: I JUST HAD TO ASK.

01:53

I LIKE TO ASK A SMART PERSON

01:54

ABOUT IT.

01:55

>> Bill: COHEN IS DESCRIBING HOW

01:58

THEY COMMUNE INDICATED WITH EACH

02:02

OTHER.

02:04

TRUMP MADE -- USING EMAILS,

02:08

PROSECUTORS CAN FOLLOW THE PAPER

02:10

TRAIL.

02:11

>> Dana: NOT WRONG.

02:12

>> Bill: AS WE HAVE SEEN TIME

02:13

AND TIME AGAIN.

02:14

JONATHAN TURLEY, JUMP BACK IN

02:17

HERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS PRETTY

02:18

STRAIGHT FORWARD NOW LIKE THE

02:21

TRIAL HAS BEEN CLARIFIED AND

02:24

IT'S BEEN CLARIFIED TO THIS

02:26

POINT, IT IS COHEN'S WORD

02:28

AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE.

02:29

DO YOU SEE IT THAT WAY?

02:31

>> WELL, WE'VE ALREADY LEARNED A

02:33

COUPLE OF THINGS.

02:34

ONE IS THAT A VORTEX DID NOT

02:37

OPEN UP THE MINUTE COHEN TOOK

02:39

THE OATH AND HAVE THE ENTIRE

02:43

COURTROOM DISAPPEAR INTO THE

02:46

NETHERWORLD.

02:46

WE CAN CHECK THAT OFF.

02:47

THE FACT THAT COHEN IS TAKING

02:49

ANOTHER OATH ITSELF WAS QUITE AN

02:52

ATTRACTION.

02:54

AND OBVIOUSLY HE WILL GET -- IT

03:00

WAS INTERESTING BEFORE HIS

03:02

TESTIMONY TO WATCH THIS EFFORT

03:04

TO GET IN THE AGREEMENT OF THE

03:06

ACCOUNTANT.

03:06

THAT WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS AND

03:09

DISHONEST MOVE BY THE

03:11

PROSECUTORS.

03:12

YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHETHER THIS

03:14

JUDGE IS HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS

03:16

ABOUT HIS FAILURE TO STOP THIS

03:20

CASE OR AT LEAST FORCE THE

03:21

PROSECUTION TO BE CLEAR ABOUT

03:23

IT.

03:23

THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING THE

03:26

PROSECUTOR FROM CALLING THAT

03:27

ACCOUNTANT.

03:29

THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT

03:30

AGREEMENT WAS CLEARLY INTENDED

03:32

TO SUGGEST TO THE JURY THAT THEY

03:35

HAVE SOME SMOKE THAN GUN

03:37

EVIDENCE.

03:37

BUT BECAUSE OF THIS AGREEMENT

03:38

THEY CAN'T PRESENT IT.

03:39

THAT'S ENTIRELY UNTRUE.

03:41

AND SO MERCHAN WAS RIGHT TO SAY

03:43

I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO

03:47

THAT.

03:47

IT GOES TO HOW THIS IS A -- THEY

03:52

ARE PROVING STUFF NOT IN

03:53

EVIDENCE WHILE LEAVING

03:54

SUGGESTIONS OF STUFF THAT IS IN

03:57

EVIDENCE WITH THE JURY.

03:59

SO THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS

04:02

WHEN THE PROSECUTION WRAPS UP

04:04

ITS CASE, THE DEFENSE WILL STAND

04:06

UP AND MAKE A STANDARD MOTION

04:08

FOR A DIRECTED VERDICT TO SAY

04:10

THERE IS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE

04:11

TO SUPPORT A CRIME IN THIS CASE.

04:13

THAT'S AN EXTREMELY POWERFUL

04:15

ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN

04:16

WE'RE STILL DEBATING WHAT THE

04:18

CRIME IS.

04:20

EVEN ON THIS NETWORK YOU HAVE

04:21

PEOPLE DISAGREEING AS TO WHAT

04:23

THE THEORY OF THIS CASE IS.

04:26

THE PROSECUTION IS ABOUT TO

04:27

WRAP.

04:29

WHAT THE PROSECUTION IS WORRIED

04:32

ABOUT EVEN THE JUDGE MUST SAY I

04:34

GAVE YOU A SHOT AND YOU DIDN'T

04:36

SINK IT SO I WILL DIRECT THIS

04:38

VERDICT.

04:38

I WILL ISSUE AN ACQUITTAL.

04:40

THE WAY THEY GET AROUND THAT IS

04:43

JUST GET COHEN TO SAY THIS

04:45

HAPPENED.

04:45

THAT HE INTENTIONALLY WANTED ME

04:48

TO PUT -- WANTED THIS TO BE A

04:50

LEGAL EXPENSE AND INTENTIONALLY

04:53

COMMITTING FRAUD AND TRYING TO

04:54

CONCEAL CAMPAIGN VIOLATIONS,

04:56

EVEN THOUGH VERY FEW PEOPLE ON

04:58

EARTH WOULD BELIEVE MICHAEL

04:59

COHEN, THE PROSECUTORS WILL

05:02

ARGUE TO THE JUDGE THAT IS A

05:05

CREDIBILITY QUESTION, JUDGE AND

05:06

YOU NEED TO LET THIS GO TO THE

05:08

JURY WHETHER YOU BELIEVE HIM OR

05:10

NOT, THAT IS A FACT QUESTION FOR

05:12

THE JURY.

05:13

THAT'S THEIR ENTIRE STRATEGY.

05:15

AS UNBELIEVABLE AS COHEN MAY BE,

05:17

I DON'T THINK THE PROSECUTORS

05:19

THINK HE WILL BE BELIEVABLE.

05:21

THEY WANT HIM TO CHECK A BOX.

05:23

>> Bill: WOW.

05:24

JUST TO QUICK FOLLOW ON THAT.

05:26

YOU ARE ARGUING THAT THE JUDGE

05:28

IS HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT

05:29

PREVIOUS DECISIONS THAT HAVE

05:30

BEEN MADE IN THIS CASE AND I

05:33

WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT,

05:35

JONATHAN, IT CAME FROM THE BENCH

05:38

ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHEN THE

05:39

JUDGE TOLD THE STATE TO TELL

05:41

MICHAEL COHEN TO STOP TALKING

05:43

AFTER ALL THE TikTokS AND TWEETS

05:45

CAME OUT.

05:46

YOU ARE MAKING A CASE NOW THAT

05:50

THE JUDGE THINKS THEY MAY HAVE

05:51

GONE TOO FAR?

05:53

>> I'M NOT SAYING THE JUDGE IS

05:55

HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS.

05:56

HE MIGHT BE.

05:57

I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY COMPETENT

05:59

LAWYER AT THIS POINT WOULD NOT

06:03

BE EMBARRASSED BY WHAT HAS

06:04

HAPPENED IN THE COURTROOM.

06:06

IT IS A DISGRACE THIS CASE HAS

06:08

GOTTEN THIS FAR.

06:09

I WOULD HOPE HE WOULD HAVE

06:12

SECOND THOUGHTS.

06:14

KEEP IN MIND WHEN HE TOLD THE

06:18

PROSECUTORS TO TELCO HEN TO STOP

06:22

THE ANTICS.

06:23

WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO THAT AT THE

06:25

BEGINNING OF THE TRIAL?

06:26

YOU WERE DOING IT THE WEEKEND

06:27

BEFORE HE TESTIFIED.

06:29

THIS GUY HAS BEEN OUT THERE WITH

06:31

A THREE-RING CIRCUS GOING ON AND

06:33

YOU HAVEN'T SAID A THING.

06:34

THEN SUDDENLY IT WOULD BE NICE

06:36

TO GO THROUGH THE WEEKEND

06:38

WITHOUT HIM TROLLING FOR DOLLARS

06:39

ON TikTok.

06:40

>> Dana: I WANT TO CALL FOR THIS

06:42

OTHER SOUND BITE FROM PRESIDENT

06:44

TRUMP AND CALL FOR NUMBER TWO ON

06:47

THAT SHEET WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT

06:49

SOMETHING JONATHAN SAID AND GET

06:52

ANDY'S TAKE.

06:53

WATCH HERE.

06:54

DO WE HAVE THAT?

06:56

THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING IT.

06:59

I'LL SET IT UP.

07:02

HE TALKS THE INNOCENCE AND RULE

07:03

OF LAW.

07:04

THE OTHER THING IS, ANDY, THE

07:07

PROSECUTION SAID SOMETHING LAST

07:08

WEEK THAT WAS MUSIC TO MY EARS

07:10

WHICH IS THAT THEY THINK THAT

07:12

THEIR CASE -- THEY MIGHT BE ABLE

07:13

TO REST THEIR CASE THIS WEEK,

07:16

OKAY?

07:16

THEN WE COULD ALL MOVE ON AND

07:18

GET WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.

07:20

HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

07:23

SAID ABOUT DECLARING HIS

07:24

INNOCENCE AND IT IS A SHAM

07:27

TRIAL.

07:28

WATCH.

07:28

>> THIS TRIAL IS RIGGED.

07:30

IT IS DISHONEST.

07:31

IT IS A DISGRACE TO NEW YORK.

07:33

IT IS A DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.

07:35

I SHOULD BE CAMPAIGNING NOW

07:37

INSTEAD OF SITTING IN A VERY

07:38

COLD COURTHOUSE ALL DAY LONG.

07:42

THIS IS A BIDEN PROSECUTION.

07:44

IT IS ELECTION INTERFERENCE AT A

07:47

LEVEL THAT NOBODY IN THIS

07:49

COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN BEFORE.

07:52

THIS IS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, NOT

07:54

THE USA.

07:55

>> Dana: YOUR THOUGHTS IN TERMS

07:58

OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE

08:00

PROSECUTION'S OFFICE.

08:00

IN QUESTION CERTAINLY.

08:01

I WAS READING THE HEADLINE IN

08:07

"NEWSWEEK" SAYING ALVIN BRAGG

08:10

HASN'T COME CLOSE TO PROVING

08:11

WHAT HE' LIDGEED.

08:12

>> PART OF WHY HE WASN'T CLEAR

08:14

ABOUT ALLEGING IT.

08:16

WHAT'S INSIDIOUS ABOUT THIS, I

08:18

WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, BRAGG

08:20

IS A VERY SMART GUY.

08:21

HE IS NOT INCOMPETENT.

08:23

IT IS NOT THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW

08:24

WHAT HE WAS DOING.

08:26

HE WAS A TOP PROSECUTOR IN NEW

08:28

YORK STATE.

08:29

HE WAS A PROSECUTOR IN MY OLD

08:32

OFFICE, THE U.S. ATTORNEYS

08:34

OFFICE IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT

08:35

OF NEW YORK.

08:36

HE KNOWS THE STUFF HE IS DOING

08:37

HERE IS IMPROPER.

08:39

IT IS A COMPLETELY POLITICAL

08:42

CASE AND HE HIT THE JACKPOT WITH

08:44

JUDGE MERCHAN.

08:46

I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE, AS

08:48

JONATHAN WAS SUGGESTING, THAT

08:50

MAYBE HE IS HAVING SECOND

08:51

THOUGHTS.

08:52

BUT EVERY TIME I START TO GIVE

08:54

IN TO THAT IDEA, A LITTLE BIRDIE

08:58

ON MY SHOULDER SAYS IF HIS

09:01

DAUGHTER IS MAKING TONS OF MONEY

09:03

AS A PROGRESSIVE ACTIVIST WHO

09:05

DOES CAMPAIGN WORK FOR TOP

09:08

DEMOCRATS WHO DEFINE THEMSELVES

09:10

BY THEIR LOATHING OF DONALD

09:11

TRUMP, DOES HE WANTS TO BE THE

09:13

JUDGE WHO THROWS OUT THE CASE

09:15

AGAINST TRUMP?

09:16

I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

09:18

>> Bill: OKAY, GUYS, STAND BY.

09:21

GUYS AND GALS, STAND BY.

09:22

WE'LL GO ON HOLD FOR A MOMENT.

09:25

>> Dana: ONE OF THE THINGS --

09:26

MICHAEL COHEN SAID HIS TIME

09:28

WORKING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

09:30

THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION WAS

09:32

FANTASTIC.

09:32

THAT'S JUST CONSISTENT WITH

09:34

EVERYONE WHO HAS TESTIFIED SO

09:36

FAR THAT EVER WORKED THERE.

09:37

THEY SEEM TO HAVE ENJOYED THE

09:39

EXPERIENCE A

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