I Can’t Believe How Much I Paid For This…
Summary
TLDRIn this nostalgic exploration, the Vidam Magic FP60 CRT projector from Sony is showcased, a relic from the 1980s with a hefty price tag and a unique design. It's portable, has a built-in Betamax player, and a microphone input. Despite its dimness and outdated technology, the FP60 was a game-changer for its time, offering a single tube for color projection and a long-lasting, durable display. The video delves into the projector's technical aspects, its use in gaming, and its eventual obsolescence as lighter, brighter models took over the market.
Takeaways
- 📽️ The Sony Vidam Magic FP60 is a portable CRT projector with a built-in Betamax player.
- 💰 Introduced in 1984 at a price of $3,000, its value would be approximately $9,000 today.
- 🎒 It came with a carrying bag and a microphone input for projecting voice, but was more luggable than portable.
- 📺 The FP60 had advantages over other mid-80s presentation options, offering larger screen size and durability.
- 🎮 It was used for gaming, showing minimal latency due to its CRT nature.
- 🔍 The projector's brightness was around 2.2 nits, which is dim compared to modern standards.
- 🌟 CRT projectors were known for their long tube life, often rated for around 10,000 hours.
- 🔧 The FP60 used a single electron gun with a beam index tube, which was innovative for its time.
- 📹 Despite its drawbacks, CRT projectors had benefits like better black levels and flesh tones compared to LCD and DLP options.
- 🚀 The last CRT projector, the Zenith Pro 1200 X, was released in 2001, marking the end of CRT projectors' era.
- 🌐 Modern projectors have significantly improved in brightness and weight compared to CRT projectors.
Q & A
What is the Vidam Magic FP60 from Sony?
-The Vidam Magic FP60 is a portable CRT projector from Sony that includes a carrying bag, microphone input, and a built-in Betamax player. It uses a single tube to produce a color image, unlike most other CRT projectors that use three tubes.
How much did the Vidam Magic FP60 cost when it was first introduced?
-The introductory price for the Vidam Magic FP60 was $3,000 in 1984, which would be approximately $9,000 in today's currency.
Who was a notable co-brander and user of the FP60?
-Avon, the cosmetics giant, co-branded the FP60 and deployed it to company representatives across the United States.
What are the advantages of the FP60 over other mid-80s presentation options?
-The FP60 had major advantages in terms of screen size, durability, and convenience compared to other options like CRTs on AV carts or larger projectors.
What is the latency like when playing games on the FP60?
-The latency is minimal, as it's a CRT projector. The only additional latency compared to looking directly into a CRT is the speed of light to the screen.
What is the brightness level of the FP60?
-The FP60 gets about 2.2 nits, which is relatively dim compared to modern standards, but it's the brightest CRT the reviewer has ever seen.
How does the FP60's single electron gun with a beam index tube work?
-The FP60 uses a single electron gun that modulates the beam strength, has a fourth phosphor stripe, and a photo multiplier tube captures the result. A decoder circuit checks and adjusts the colors on the fly.
What are the drawbacks of the FP60's design?
-The design has drawbacks like inferior contrast, but it offers benefits like brighter images, no convergence problems, and lower sensitivity to magnetic interference.
Why did CRT projectors eventually fall out of fashion?
-CRT projectors were replaced by lighter, brighter models, even if it meant sacrificing a little bit of image quality. The last CRT projector came out in 2001.
What are the benefits of using a CRT projector over LCD and DLP options that started hitting the market?
-CRT projectors offered better black levels, better flesh tones, no pixelation, and exceptionally long tube life, with most rated for around 10,000 hours compared to 1 or 2,000 hours for LCD and DLP projectors.
How does the FP60 perform when watching movies?
-The FP60 is not great for watching movies due to its dimness and poor contrast, but it does offer better black levels and flesh tones compared to LCD and DLP projectors.
Outlines
📺 Introducing the Vidam Magic FP60 CRT Projector
The script begins with an introduction to the Vidam Magic FP60, a portable CRT projector from Sony. It highlights its features, such as a carrying bag, microphone input, and a built-in Betamax player. The video's host, dressed as a 1980s traveling salesman, discusses the high price of the projector in 1984, which would be equivalent to around $9,000 today. The script also mentions Avon's co-branding of the FP60 for business presentations and compares it to other mid-80s presentation options, emphasizing its advantages in screen size, durability, and convenience.
🎮 Gaming with the FP60 and CRT Latency
The host explores the latency of the FP60 when playing games like the NES, noting the minimal delay compared to a direct CRT screen. The conversation includes humorous banter about the game's performance and the challenges of setting up the projector in a dark environment. The script also delves into the technical aspects of the FP60's CRT, explaining how it uses a single electron gun with a beam index tube and a photomultiplier tube to produce color images, which was an innovation at the time.
🎬 Watching Movies and the Decline of CRT Projectors
The script discusses the limitations of the FP60 when watching movies, comparing the quality to that of a Betamax tape and the degradation of the tape itself. It contrasts the FP60's performance with a DVD, noting improvements in aspect ratio and image quality. The host reflects on the advantages of CRT projectors, such as better black levels, flesh tones, and long tube life, despite their decline in popularity due to the rise of LCD and DLP projectors. The script concludes with a mention of the last CRT projector produced in 2001 and a comparison to modern projectors, highlighting the advancements in technology.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Portable CRT Projector
💡Vidam Magic FP60
💡CRT (Cathode Ray Tube)
💡Betamax Player
💡Indextron Tube
💡Latency
💡Brightness
💡Convergence
💡Phosphors
💡Squarespace
💡Zenith Pro 1200 X
Highlights
The Vidam Magic FP60 from Sony is a portable CRT projector with a built-in Betamax player.
The FP60 was priced at $3,000 in 1984, which would be around $9,000 in today's currency.
Avon co-branded the FP60 and deployed it to company representatives across the United States.
The FP60 offers advantages in screen size, durability, and convenience compared to other mid-80s boardroom presentation options.
The FP60 uses a single tube to produce a color image, unlike most CRT projectors that use three tubes.
The FP60's CRT technology provides better black levels and flesh tones, and longer tube life compared to LCD and DLP projectors.
The FP60's design includes a single electron gun with a beam index tube, which simplifies the setup and reduces convergence issues.
The FP60's brightness is limited, with a measured brightness of 2.2 nits.
The FP60's promotional video showed it being usable in a sunlit room, but in reality, it would require pitch darkness.
The FP60's CRT projector technology was replaced by lighter, brighter models like DLP projectors, with the last CRT projector released in 2001.
The FP60's CRT technology had benefits like no convergence problems and lower sensitivity to magnetic interference.
The FP60's CRT projector could be used for gaming with minimal latency, providing a similar experience to playing on a CRT TV.
The FP60's built-in Betamax player and microphone input allowed for versatile presentation capabilities.
The FP60's design included water cooling, which was innovative for its time.
The FP60's service manual and a second projector are available for those interested in repairing or restoring the device.
The FP60's weight and size made it more luggable than truly portable, but it was still a significant advancement in projector technology.
Transcripts
you've seen a portable projector you've
seen a CRT but have you seen a portable
CRT
projector okay portable might be a
little generous but the vidam magic fp60
from Sony came with its own carrying bag
has a microphone input for projecting
your voice and did I mention there's a
built betamax player no how about the
fact that it uses a single tube to
produce a color image rather than three
tubes like most other CRT
projectors in this episode of lonus
overpays for ancient Hardware that
you've probably never heard of we'll be
cosplaying as a traveling salesman from
the 1980s I can't wait to play with this
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the introductory price for the viam
magic fp60 was
$3,000 that's not that bad for a
portable
projector except that was in 1984
meaning it would be closer to
$9,000 today that's high enough that
just about nobody was going to be buying
these for home theater use but
businesses well that's another story and
cosmetics giant Avon even went as far as
to co-brand the fp60 and deploy it to
company Representatives across the
United States hence my uh world's
largest makeup bag here at 35 lbs she's
more luggable than really portable but
when you compare it to other mid 80s
options for boardroom presentations for
example like what a CRT on an AV cart or
a real toore projector the fp60 had
major advantages in terms of screen size
and in terms of durability and
convenience so we're going to get to
that whole presentation use case but
first I have a burning question kenet
game oh
yeah fun fact by the way the NES
wouldn't come out in America for another
year we just felt like being Gamers it
would be a great choice for us to
evaluate the latency not going to lie
brother I can see it's on but
uh wow barely I mean is that supposed to
be curtains at the top or is that
just this reason everyone had blacked
out media rooms right okay we're going
to have to lose some lights yeah get the
lamp there we go oh my God yeah the lamp
doesn't do much no we need that one hold
on I got you I got you it's still
horrible get this okay hold on I got
this one I got this one what that's the
only light we have left and that's all
we got turn it off dude this is terrible
well you know it's a crd yeah but it
didn't get very bright to begin with
okay hold on hold
on that's that's markedly better okay
we're getting somewhere I mean that's
about as far as we're going to get but
that's that's not bad okay that lamp's
got to go that lamp was throwing so much
more light than the CRT
projector with that said looking into
this thing that's about the brightest
CRT I've ever seen right that indextron
wow there's like hairs in there oh yeah
you can probably it'd probably be fun to
try to play with the focus if you want
to basically that's the cross oh it's
probably slightly out of focus there's
also a uh manual focus on the very front
that you can use okay but you shouldn't
don't touch them together or you can
break the whole Focus system yeah it's
definitely still got some blurry spots
do you have any idea what that is no
Elijah tried cleaning the lens so like
it's been wiped down so basically Elijah
touched it yeah Elijah tou said that it
was bad before he touched it I'm not
blaming him in this scenario
maybe some of the phosphors are worn out
or something or like some of the co CU
you can see it looks like burnning when
you've got it on a single um like color
here oh my God what this is perfect
right there's no latency there's none
cuz it's a CRT it's a projector but it's
a CRT a CRT wow it's like so easy this
is like freaking Easy Street and it
looks pretty good hey like those blacks
actually look pretty black it's pretty
colorful too like this is not bad no
it's not bad at all I mean it's not good
no but in a in a dark environment though
this is like totally
fine oh no wow you're diding so well
let's see you do better I probably won't
another thing that's not included with
ours is a working speaker unfortunately
yeah it's just not working and
theoretically we could use our uh
technical manual service manual to
repair it or we could just not do that
oh my God you're wasting the pow there's
no pow we don't need it I thought you
were too good you don't need the pow did
you die yeah again I hit a blue shell
while it was flipped over we've already
realized that when it comes to old games
you'll usually win new games I don't
know okay well that was you dying on
purpose I actually did not
okay all right this is it for all the
marbles here we
go um they kill me yeah yeah yeah they
kill you if they're um moving yeah yeah
yeah this feels too good I know right
like it feels like you're playing on a
CRT yeah because the only additional
latency compared to looking directly
into a CRT is the speed of light to the
screen that's it so just the slightly
increased like distance the light has to
travel like this is awesome
but blue we're getting about 2.2 nits
2.2
nits the point two
matters let's stop it for now cuz I want
to talk about brightness In fairness
most projectors don't get that bright
compared to direct view displays but
this is clearly way behind the
experience that Sony showed off in this
by the way amazing promotional video
that was recently re-uploaded by retro
TV film and video and if we look
closely yep
composited got him now it was probably
brighter when it was new CRTs do Decay
over time but they show this thing being
usable in a literally sunlit room when
realistically it would have needed pitch
Darkness even then with that said how
cool would a land party have been if
someone showed up with one of these bad
boys oh it'd be sick with like a GI even
not even 180 50 60 in that would be
unheard of as a kid unheard of a regular
CRT tube TV works by coating the front
glass with a phosphor material that
lights up when it gets Zapped by one of
three electron guns one for red one for
green and one for blue with our CRT
projector we're not looking at a lit up
phosphor screen
so what are what is going on here it
turns out it's surprisingly simple
they're still using a cathode ray tube
to generate the image and we can see
that if we look directly down the barrel
but it's upside down and backwards so
that once it goes through the lens which
is basically functioning as a giant
magnifying glass it'll be the right way
around now I alluded to this before but
one of the big Innovations for the vid
magic was that most CRT projectors in
those days were using three separate
tubes and lenses for RG and B kind of
like this they were reliable but they
were extremely heavy and and
inconvenient to set up supposedly it
took quite some time to get them all
lined up correctly and something as
small as a swift kick to the table it
was resting on could put the whole thing
out of whack again another major hurdle
they faced was well you can probably
guess from what we've seen so far
brightness CRTs by modern standards are
pretty dim to begin with and projecting
that light across a much larger area
exacerbates the issue how do you fix all
of that
okay the fp60 is no regular CRT it uses
a single electron gun with a beam index
tube so to get the right colors from a
single gun they would modulate the beam
strength then there was a fourth
phosphor stripe and when that lit up the
result was captured by a photo
multiplier tube and that signal was then
Amplified and sent to a decoder circuit
which would basically check if the
colors were correct and then adjust the
modulation of the beam on the fly if you
open this thing up the number of boards
involved to properly index and decode
the signals is pretty wild by the way
shout out to 12volt vids for this
amazing footage from his repair video a
few years ago that gives us a great look
by the way at the water cooling that was
built into this projector now this
design did have drawbacks like inferior
contrast but the benefits were Brighter
Images no convergence problems and lower
sensitivity to magnetic interference
which is why they saw some military use
Sony commercialized a couple of versions
of this technology including the
indextron tube which was used in our
fp60 as well as in the highly sought
after kvx 370 watch cube a super cute
4in bedside TV that came out in
1989 realistically nobody was buying
this thing for gaming so why don't we
try a movie this definitely makes these
1980 special effects not look out of
place yeah I mean they look pretty good
um at this resolution yeah at this
brightness got to love those four
textures not 4K just
four this looks about how I remember
watching TV in the 9s no we had more
color than that the contrast is terrible
fine yeah terrible so I guess what we
want to know is how much of what we're
looking at is limitations of the betamax
format and or degradation of the tape
versus how much of it is limitations of
the performance of our projector so do
we want to throw our DVD on yeah let's
put our DVD in I think it's already in
the player okay I love how delightfully
easy to operate this thing is yeah it's
pretty simple switches for different
modes y this looks better I think that
other than getting 16 by9 M which we can
actually kind of take advantage of with
this projector because the image isn't
so small that you are basically just
like well I gave up 30% of my whole
screen I don't think this is a whole ton
better though like a little bit I think
it's a little better a little bit
looking into the lens this is as bright
a CRT as I have ever seen how small does
it get to be CRT bright off the
projection screen I'm going to move it
okay moving forward careful this is like
60 80 lbs worth of I got I got you oh
yeah I got hang on yeah um wow that's
still really dim okay
more I think that's his oh that is as
much as it goes boy so we can't go any
smaller than this yeah all right so it's
not great for watching movies either but
there were advantages to using a CRT
projector even when LCD and DLP option
options started hitting the market
better black levels and better flesh
tones no pixelation and exceptionally
long tube life most CRT projectors were
rated for around 10,000 hours while the
bulbs in LCD and DLP projectors were
only good for 1 or 2,000 they'd also
gotten pretty cheap on the used Market
by then so you could go with the used
CRT projector and still have money left
over to spend on the new noock to a
screwdriver from LTD store.com to take
it apart when you need to change the
tube by the way guys we got a full
service manual for this thing and a
second projector let us know in the
comments if you want to see Dan try to
fix it with all of that said these
benefits were not enough to keep CRT
projectors in fashion like their TV set
Brethren they were replaced by lighter
brighter models even if it meant
sacrificing a little bit of image
quality for actually years to come and
the last CRT projector came out in 2001
the pro 1200 X from Zenith it retailed
for about $30,000 and weighed around 155
lb by contrast the high-end Christy
Mirage 200000 DLP projector launched in
the same year for 55 grand but weighed
almost half of what the Zenus did and
was roughly seven times brighter modern
projectors have obviously gotten a lot
better by the way and we'll have some
decent options linked down below back to
our fp60 though the only thing we
haven't done yet is give a presentation
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