Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump Wildwood Rally & Ann Coulter's Controversial Comments | PBD Podcast | Ep. 410
Summary
TLDRThe transcript appears to be a detailed discussion on a variety of political topics, featuring conversations around the potential future roles of a prominent political figure, the importance of trust and conviction in leadership, and the challenges of navigating political and social landscapes. It touches on the themes of nationalism, the impact of certain policies on future elections, and the influence of media and public opinion on political strategy. The discussion also extends to the importance of free speech, the role of the United States in global conflicts, and the necessity for political leaders to make tough decisions in the interest of the nation. Throughout the conversation, there is a strong emphasis on the need for honesty, accountability, and the courage to make decisions that may not always be politically convenient but are deemed necessary for the greater good.
Takeaways
- 🎙️ The host expresses his admiration for V, considering him a top contender for the 2028 presidential election due to his intelligence, policy knowledge, and charismatic personality.
- 🤔 V discusses the challenges he faced during his campaign, including issues related to his ethnicity and religious background, which impacted his ability to connect with certain voter demographics.
- 🇺🇸 V emphasizes the importance of the U.S. Constitution regarding the qualifications for the presidency and counters arguments that question his American identity based on his immigrant parents.
- 👥 The conversation touches on the potential roles V might take on if asked by President Trump, reflecting V's willingness to serve in various capacities for the betterment of the country.
- 💡 V highlights the need for immediate action in certain areas such as immigration and border security, expressing his commitment to these issues and his intent to stay engaged in national affairs.
- 🔥 The host and V criticize the politicization of the legal system in relation to Trump's trial, arguing that the charges are baseless and represent a misuse of prosecutorial power.
- 👮♂️ Discussion about the importance of holding public officials accountable, with V stating that he would not shy away from making tough decisions and would prioritize the country's needs over political considerations.
- 🤝 V speaks positively about Ben Carson and Tulsi Gabbard, appreciating their backgrounds outside of politics and their potential contributions to public service.
- 🏛 The topic of draining the swamp in Washington is addressed, with V advocating for decisive action to reduce the size of the federal bureaucracy and protect American interests.
- 🚫 V opposes the passing of the anti-Semitism awareness act in Congress, arguing that it infringes on free speech and is a misguided attempt to police opinions.
- 📉 The conversation concludes with a reflection on the current state of political discourse, with a call for more open and honest debate, and a critique of the tendency to avoid difficult conversations.
Q & A
What was the main topic of discussion regarding the podcast guest?
-The main topic of discussion was the guest's perspective on nationalism, national identity, and the future direction of the conservative movement in the United States.
How did the podcast host describe the guest's opening monologue?
-The host described the guest's opening monologue as fantastic and appreciated the thoughtful perspectives shared by the guest.
What was the guest's position on the criteria for being the US president?
-The guest believed that to be a US president, one has to be more American, implying that the more generations a family has been in the United States, the more qualified they are for the presidency.
What was the host's reaction to the guest's view on the presidency criteria?
-The host disagreed with the guest's view, arguing that being American is not solely defined by the number of generations a family has been in the United States.
What issue did the host bring up regarding the Republican primary?
-The host brought up the issue of racism and xenophobia within the Republican primary, mentioning personal experiences and challenges faced during the campaign due to his ethnicity and religion.
What was the host's stance on the potential for a non-white candidate to win the Republican nomination?
-The host believed that a non-white candidate could win the Republican nomination, emphasizing that it would depend on the individual's qualifications and alignment with the party's values.
What was the host's view on the importance of the vice presidential pick in the 2028 election?
-The host viewed the vice presidential pick as very important, stating that the VP selection could potentially be the leading candidate for the presidency in 2028.
How did the host feel about the potential of being asked to serve as Vice President?
-The host expressed that anyone who cares about the country and is aligned with the Republican party's vision would have a responsibility to accept the position if asked.
What was the guest's opinion on the role of conviction in politics?
-The guest valued conviction in politics, respecting individuals who stand by their deeply held beliefs even if they are part of a fringe minority.
What did the host and guest discuss regarding the situation in Israel?
-They discussed the right of Israel to defend itself, the importance of not micromanaging Israel's defense strategies, and the need for a rational and cool-headed approach to foreign policy.
What was the host's view on the use of the term 'Elites' in political discourse?
-The host suggested that the term 'Elites' could be misleading, as it does not accurately describe all individuals in positions of power or influence, and proposed a more nuanced understanding of societal structures.
Outlines
🎙️ Podcast Introduction and Upcoming Topics
The speaker introduces the podcast and outlines various topics for discussion, including a recent exchange on a podcast related to racial remarks, potential political appointments, reactions to Trump's support for Israel, and a protest at Duke University involving Jerry Seinfeld.
🤔 Reflections on Political Candidacy and National Identity
The speaker reflects on their experience as a political candidate, addressing comments about their race and religion, and discusses the concept of nationalism and national identity within the context of American politics.
🏦 Entrepreneurship, American Dream, and Political Vision
The speaker talks about their background as an entrepreneur, their alignment with Trump's America First policy, and the unique opportunity presented by the incumbent president's track record as action versus promises.
👥 Trust in Leadership and the Republican Base
The conversation delves into trust in political leadership, the Republican base's preference for Trump, and the challenges faced by new or less-known candidates in building trust with the electorate.
💡 Future Political Aspirations and Commitment to Country
The speaker expresses their commitment to the country over personal ambition, stating they would only run for president if they believed it was essential for the country's future. They also discuss the importance of immediate action for the country's benefit.
🤝 Willingness to Serve in Any Capacity for the Country
The speaker asserts that they would accept any role offered by President Trump if it would benefit the country, emphasizing their 'America First' mentality and commitment to public service.
🕵️♂️ Accountability and Political Strategy
The speaker discusses the importance of accountability in political roles, their approach to removing unsuitable candidates, and their views on the use of political tactics and strategies in achieving goals.
🌎 Foreign Policy and National Sovereignty
The speaker shares their views on foreign policy, emphasizing the importance of national sovereignty and non-interference in the affairs of other nations, while also discussing specific geopolitical situations.
🗣️ Free Speech and the First Amendment
The speaker passionately defends the First Amendment and the right to free speech, criticizing legislation that would limit expression of opinions, even those considered extreme or hateful.
🤔 Self-Criticism and Engagement in Political Discourse
The speaker calls for self-criticism within the Republican party and emphasizes the need for open debate and engagement with opposing views, suggesting a more proactive approach in various forums.
📺 Media Commentary on Immigration Policy
The speaker comments on media discussions surrounding immigration policy, suggesting a shift towards more secure policies as seen under the previous administration, and the political implications of such changes.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Entrepreneurship
💡American Dream
💡Nationalism
💡Immigration Policy
💡Globalism
💡Populism
💡Border Security
💡Political Prosecution
💡First Principles
💡Free Speech
💡Diplomatic Relations
Highlights
The conversation begins with a discussion on the value of David over Goliath in the context of entrepreneurship and the underdog's potential for success.
A recent podcast exchange is mentioned where the guest suggested being 'too Brown' to become president, prompting a debate on racism and representation in politics.
Speculation about a high-profile individual's potential role in government, including positions like Homeland Security, Secretary of Commerce, VP, or AG, is addressed.
The incident at Duke University where Jerry Seinfeld faced a walkout during his commencement speech due to his support for Israel is discussed.
Michael Cohen's situation with Stormy Daniels and his potential aspirations for a Nike sponsorship are humorously examined.
Comments on CNN's Fareed Zakaria suggesting a return to Trump's immigration policies are critiqued, highlighting a shift in mainstream media discourse.
A Wall Street Journal statistic on the global concern of not having enough babies being born is noted, signaling a potential demographic crisis.
The issue of discrimination potentially causing people to age faster is debated, with a critique of the Forbes article's angle and implications.
A discussion on the future direction of the conservative movement and the role of nationalism and national identity in politics is explored.
The concept of 'Americanness' is questioned, with a debate on whether being born in the U.S. or having a long family history in the country makes one a 'true American'.
The impact of faith and religion on political campaigns is examined, with personal anecdotes from the guest about his experiences as a Hindu candidate.
The potential for a non-white candidate to secure the Republican nomination in the future is debated, with opinions on the current political climate.
The importance of action over words in political leadership is emphasized, with a nod to Trump's track record as a unique opportunity for voters.
The guest's stance on being open to various roles in government if they align with his skills and the needs of the country is shared.
The topic of illegal immigration and border security as a key issue for the next administration is highlighted, with the guest's views on necessary reforms.
The guest's commitment to the 'America First' policy and his vision for its continuation beyond the Trump presidency is discussed.
The potential risks and rewards of taking a hard stance on cutting federal bureaucracy and the 'draining the swamp' agenda are debated.
Transcripts
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one all right we're about to go live
here with the one and only V while I'm
taking a picture with them by the way
uh we got a lot to cover I I don't know
how many times we've done this three
four five times but every time we talk
to VI the the conversation is always
Lively we talk about a bunch of
different issues let me kind of give you
some things we want to talk about today
uh one is uh uh you know a exchange that
he had with a recent podcast that he is
too Brown to become a president we got
to get a reaction on that which we will
you know uh and then the other part is
the uh a position job is he going to be
getting the homeland security job that
freaked a lot of people out is he going
to get the Secretary of Commerce is it
VP is it AG is it nothing is what what
is the conversation going to be but
we'll talk about that the trial in New
York jersey with Trump did Jerry
Seinfeld who's a speaker at Duke
graduation and all of a sudden a bunch
of people walk out you got to see this
aside from that there's the Michael
Cohen thing going on right now with
stormmy Daniel and Michael Cohen I think
may have wanted to get sponsored by Nike
when you hear what what he talked about
based on a quote that Trump told him
back in the days scaramucci said some
stuff about Trump saying he's a very
very dangerous man and should be nowhere
near the White
House cers for Palestine Pro Palestine
protesters stop traffic at Walt Disney
World in Florida you'll see what that's
all about and then we got a couple other
stories here let me still continue with
this North Dakota governor former
presidential candidate Doug B beram
front and center at Jersey Rally with
Trump what's he doing there that's a
conversation that's being brought up
lately RFK says he will qualify for
presidential debates as the issue's
challenge to Trump coint testifies and
you'll see what he'll say here Pelosi
rebuked to her face during Oxford debate
about 2016 election very weird what she
said and then what the student and the
person that was you know rebuking her
you just have to see what happens in
this situation very interesting and then
a couple other things Trump just
recently said I support Israel's right
to win its war on terror then CNN
Zakaria by which is by the way he's he's
he's he has an owner and the owner is on
our panel here because without him
nobody would I mean without Adam you
know Vinnie nobody would have ever known
about zakari without Adam because it's
all yeah CNN Zakaria Biden should go
back to Trump's immigration policies
then numbers just showed up a
record-breaking number for the number of
people with full-time jobs and part time
jobs will see this couple things here in
the economy we'll talk about there's a
stat that just came out from Wall Street
Journal I want to get VI's take on this
suddenly there aren't enough babies the
whole world is alarmed with not enough
babies being born
Christine um there's a restraining order
on her and all the dogs in South Dakota
which is kind of deeply concerning we're
going to see we're going to see what our
friend here has to say and last but not
least I thought this was kind of
interesting story by Forbes I don't know
who wrote it I'm just curious with this
title discrimination may cause people to
age faster and affects white people most
who the hell would write Wonder this is
a Forbes article guys that we're talking
about Forbes article so but I have to
start off with this can I say one word
on that do you think if the article's
findings were that discrimination would
cause people to age slower would they
have published it I don't think so no
this is a great opportunity for them to
write something like
can can you pull this up so an cter who
we've had on the podcast before an
couter I think you and her are you know
on a show together you're doing
something together and she asked this
question I just want to get your
reaction on Rob go and play this clip
that's why I brought on today somebody
who I think has some thoughtful
perspectives on the future direction of
our country of our conservative movement
and on this question of nationalism and
national identity somebody whove been
fascinated for by for a long time fast
forward to when she say intera with on
social media but for the first time
we're having
in the offline sense of it it's an cter
so an thanks for coming on and I'm
looking forward to our conversation
today me too thanks for having me that
was a fantastic opening monologue uh I
too am a fan of yours I'm going to make
a point of disagreeing with you so that
it will be fun um you are so bright and
articulate and I guess I can call you
articulate since you're not an American
black um can't can't say that about them
that's that's derogatory
um and that was a great opening segment
lots of things to talk about there oh
and I agreed with many many things you
said during in fact probably more than
than most other candidates um when you
were running for president but I still
would not have voted for you um because
you're an Indian we'll get back to that
um just skip over the
racism how well first of all what was
did you know she was because it seems
like when you guys are starting there's
a little bit of tension I don't know if
there was like pre getting started with
there was tension or not oh you're
pretty good at picking that up man so so
actually so so give you the context here
so I ran this podcast during the
presidential campaign it was called
Truth yeah I took some time off after
the campaign and now you know getting
back in the swing of things so we
relaunched the truth podcast just La
relaunched it officially last week so
you know get that up on the ground you
would have good conversations and I
wanted to I wanted to pick on some
people who had poked me a little bit on
social media or in other ways to be able
to you know it's kind of boring to just
talk about everybody who agrees with the
same thing right right but let's get a
little bit of tension from the left from
the right so I'll bring Anne ctron
because during the campaign I don't
remember what exactly she said but on
numerous instances would comment on
different ways in which I might not be
quite qualified to be president right so
so let's get it on and have a
conversation and both of us are interest
interested in the theme of nationalism I
did not expect she would just kick it
off right there get right into the
business and I think it actually made
for really good conversation Believe It
or Not of course I disagree with hell
like her on that being a criteria to be
the US president is her description of
whether or not you're an Indian I'm born
in the United States I'm as American as
they come but I thought it actually
formed a really strong basis for an
honest conversation that we otherwise
don't have because her view is that in
order to actually be a US president you
got to be even more American right so
you're not fully American if your
parents weren't from the United States
of America and in order to trust
somebody the more Generations they've
been here let's say you've been here six
or seven generations you have more of
what she would call I think she did call
during the podcast a security policy
it's like an insurance policy that you
know that if you're going to put
somebody in that high office at least
you know that they've really really
soaked up what it means to be American
now I disagree with that I disagree with
that because you have people in the
Seventh Generation Americans who are the
kids of some I've been to I've known
many of these people grow up in the
Upper East Side some daughter who lives
in Brooklyn thinks she's a hippie talks
about hating this country well I don't
think that that person's any more
American than I am just because my
parents happen to have been legal
immigrants to this country I got two
questions for you but it made for a good
conversation I got two questions for you
with this okay on one end how many
people you think are like if you were to
say of the voter's block what percentage
of the voter block agrees with her so
say in in the Republican primary in the
Republican primary to say you know what
I'm not going to even if it's 1% 2% 3%
what do you think it is so I will tell
you this with
confidence it is a lot higher than I
believed it was a year ago interesting
yeah it's a lot higher than I believe
you would think it is too which is why
and I said this on social media and some
people hit me on the left from it I said
I respect her for saying it even though
I disagree right because at least she
has the spine to say in public what many
other people not a majority not even
close to a majority but a lot of people
she's not alone she is voicing a view
that I think is widespread and you know
actually I what the hell we're here
we're just gonna gonna let loose a
little bit I had I had somebody textt me
who had run for position you you guys
might know her harit Dylan you know har
Dyan har meit's super cool so I hope
she's fine with me saying this because I
think it's important that the public
know we we can't just have these
conversations by closed doors not have
them in the open said that when she ran
for her position of being the chairwoman
of the RNC she had many people tell her
the same thing too which is interesting
to me because most of the Grassroots was
you know a lot of the Grassroots were
with me a lot of Grassroots were with
people like carmit but there are people
who believe that if you're electing
people to positions of leadership how
American you are is a spectrum when you
were out there campaigning did anybody
face you confront you and say I would
totally support you but you're too Brown
for me did anyone say so I had many of
those for religion so I didn't have
anybody come up and say that because of
well there were people on social media
who would make an argument it wasn't on
ethnicity and this is part of Ann's
Point too it's the point that your
parents were immigrants to this country
and so you are truly not at the highest
level of being American to be president
of the United States right so we had a
number of people that would say that
occasionally a much more common one
though for people to my face was I would
love to vote for you it's difficult for
me to vote for somebody else because I
agree with you more but I can't do that
because you are Hindu that came up a lot
especially in Iowa even the town hall
when we did somebody asked you one of
the ladies got up you remember that I
remember ask you a question but I
thought your answer was fantastic but
she I remember her she was she was I was
standing on stage she was standing right
there very thoughtful yes I don't think
she was in the category of saying I
can't vote for no she didn't say she
asked a very legitimate question is said
tell me about your faith right because
if you're running for president I got to
know who you are and if your faith is
important to you then in order to know
who you are I got to know your faith
that's different from I'm telling you
though I will face people in Iowa
there's Pastor in Iowa who wrote an
extensive Facebook post I spent two
hours with him on the back of a bus
talking it through and he still came out
on the other side as he said if it is
God's will for you to be the US
president I will accept it respect but I
can't vote for you myself myself because
I can't vote for somebody who doesn't
share my let me stay on this year so
first of all if strategically I don't
know if an cter wants to sell you some
product that Samy Sosa used I don't know
if you're familiar with Samy SAA Sammy
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know that
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interested this is real real real story
he got his skin to be lighter so you can
go couple shade you know lighter Rob I
don't know why you're laughing I'm
trying to make a solution here to make
an happy I'm not I'm not going to be a
customer I'm sorry but he was so by the
way this guy hit 66 home runs and he
saved MLB in 1998 let me go back to the
question here with this one here okay
what do you think's more extreme what do
you think is more extreme and tell me
how your argument is on the other side
so one side you know what I don't think
America because you know back in the
days what was JFK was Tom you said Roman
Catholic it was a Roman Catholic where
America those are the headlines when
Nixon was running it's a Roman Catholic
not ready for Roman Catholic President
okay and then America said nah we're
okay with it right actually cool with
that okay we're we actually cool with
that do you think give me which of these
are more extreme so do you think an
coulter's position of saying no not only
do I want you to be a c natural-born
citizen but I also want you to be white
to be a true nationalist to be a
president here how about the opposite
side what about somebody that wasn't
born here but has lived here for 35
years yeah should this person have the
right to run for office one day in
America if they paid their taxes they'
paid their dues they've lived in America
for 35 years should they have the chance
to run for office should they have the
chance to run for US president pres no
you want to know why cuz the
Constitution says so so if you want to
change change the Constitution and would
you have two-thirds of this country and
two3 of the state ratify that that's a
separate conversation but what the
Constitution says now is you have to be
a natural born citizen sure and a
natural born citizen as it's ever been
read by courts as it's ever been read
through American history for the last
century and a half is you're born in the
United States of America and so I think
the Constitution is a beautiful thing we
don't have to relitigate these questions
every generation go with what the
Constitution actually says and if an
cter is watching maybe an cter wants to
amend the Constitution and say naturally
born white citizen right with a skin
tone that is you know maybe be put tears
in the skin tone to to please anter what
do you think I'm just trying to get some
creative ideas here I mean Biden's
father's father's father's father are
all born in America I would much rather
vote for somebody like this than
somebody that's families families
families been here and ain't doing
well my opinion is this when it comes on
to VI and I I told you this last week I
think in you know how we were going to
the GOP debate we went to all the
debates and we'd watch VI and we're like
did this guy should crush it tomorrow on
the you know what do you call it the the
polls right and you'd go you're like 6
and a half% s and a half per. like how
this guy's not jumping up to 22% 18% and
you realize
because there's a guy in the way of that
not in the way he is what majority of
Republicans want to run at this year