Brooks and Capehart on Nikki Haley announcing her support for Trump

Political analysis with David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart
24 May 202412:12

Summary

TLDRIn this political discussion, panelists analyze Nikki Haley's recent endorsement of former President Trump despite her previous criticisms. They debate the implications of her decision on her political future and whether moral character should influence policy discussions. The conversation also touches on the potential impact of Trump's criminal trial on public opinion and the election, as well as the outreach efforts by both President Biden and Trump to voters of color, with a focus on their contrasting messaging strategies.

Takeaways

  • 🗳️ Nikki Haley, a former presidential candidate, has announced that she will be voting for Trump despite her previous criticisms.
  • 🤔 David Brooks suggests that Haley's endorsement might be a strategic move to continue her political career within the Republican party.
  • 🏆 Jonathan Capehart criticizes Haley's decision as 'soulless', arguing that she has abandoned her values for political expediency.
  • 📊 A significant portion of the American public is closely following Trump's criminal hush money trial, with potential implications for the upcoming election.
  • 🤨 Brooks expresses skepticism about the impact of the trial on the election, suggesting that the central issue may be broader economic and social concerns rather than the trial itself.
  • 🌎 Brooks notes a global trend of right-wing parties doing well, hinting that this could influence the election outcome.
  • 🗣️ President Biden and former President Trump are both making efforts to reach out to voters of color, with different messaging strategies.
  • 📈 The discussion highlights the importance of working-class voters and the potential shifts in their voting patterns.
  • 👥 There is debate over the actual level of support Trump has among Black and Latino voters, with skepticism about certain polls and their methodologies.
  • 🔍 The conversation emphasizes the need to look beyond surface-level polling numbers to understand the deeper motivations and identities of voters.
  • 🌐 The script touches on the influence of global political trends on the U.S. election and the importance of considering international contexts.

Q & A

  • What did Nikki Haley announce regarding her political future?

    -Nikki Haley announced that she will be back in her former position this fall, implying a return to political prominence.

  • What is the significance of Nikki Haley's endorsement of Trump?

    -Nikki Haley's endorsement of Trump is significant as it shows her alignment with the Republican party despite her previous criticisms, suggesting a strategic move for her political career.

  • What options does David Brooks suggest for a Republican politician regarding Trump?

    -David Brooks suggests two options: the Liz Cheney option, which involves taking a principled stand and potentially becoming a former politician, or the Marco Rubio option, which involves going along with Trump and not challenging his character.

  • What does Jonathan Capehart consider the 'soulless option'?

    -Jonathan Capehart refers to the 'soulless option' as the Marco Rubio approach, where one abandons their values and principles for political expediency.

  • What is the potential impact of Trump's criminal hush money trial on the upcoming election?

    -The trial's impact on the election is uncertain, but with 70% of people closely following the trial, a conviction or acquittal could influence public opinion and potentially affect voter behavior.

  • How does Jonathan Capehart view the importance of moral character in politics?

    -Jonathan Capehart believes that moral character is crucial in politics and should not be overlooked for political convenience or expediency.

  • What is the current public attention to Trump's criminal hush money trial according to the Quinnipiac poll?

    -According to the Quinnipiac poll, 70% of those surveyed are closely or somewhat closely following Trump's criminal hush money trial.

  • What does David Brooks believe about the central question of the upcoming election?

    -David Brooks suggests that if the central question of the election is whether Donald Trump is a threat to democracy, then the trial's outcome could have an effect on the election.

  • How might President Biden respond to the outcome of Trump's trial?

    -It is expected that President Biden will make a statement once the judicial process is complete, especially if there is a conviction, as it would raise questions about having a criminally convicted president.

  • What outreach efforts are President Biden and former President Trump making to voters of color?

    -Both President Biden and former President Trump are making efforts to reach out to voters of color, particularly Black and Hispanic voters, with different messaging strategies aimed at appealing to their concerns and interests.

  • What narrative does Jonathan Capehart refute regarding Trump's support among Black voters?

    -Jonathan Capehart refutes the narrative that Trump has made significant inroads with Black voters, citing a New York Times poll with a small sample size as misleading and not representative of the broader community.

  • What is the role of working-class voters in the upcoming election according to David Brooks?

    -David Brooks suggests that working-class voters are voting more like working-class voters, regardless of other identities they may have, indicating a shift that could have a significant impact on the election.

Outlines

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🗳️ Nikki Haley's Trump Endorsement and Political Strategy

In this paragraph, the discussion revolves around Nikki Haley's decision to endorse former President Trump despite her previous criticisms during her campaign suspension speech. The analysis explores the implications of her choice, comparing it to the paths taken by other Republican politicians like Liz Cheney and Marco Rubio. It questions whether Haley's endorsement is driven by a desire to continue her political career or if there are other motivations at play, such as a potential vice-presidential run. The conversation also touches on the importance of moral character in politics and the potential impact of Trump's criminal trial on public opinion and the upcoming election.

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📺 Public Engagement with Trump's Criminal Trial and its Political Implications

This section of the script discusses the public's engagement with the criminal trial of former President Trump, particularly the hush money allegations. It highlights the significant number of Americans who are closely following the trial, as indicated by a Quinnipiac poll. The conversation speculates on how a conviction or acquittal might influence the election and the potential reactions of the public. The discussion also delves into President Biden's approach to commenting on the trial and the contrasting messaging strategies employed by Biden and Trump in their outreach to voters of color, including African American and Hispanic communities.

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📈 Analyzing Shifts in Voter Demographics and Political Messaging

The final paragraph of the script focuses on the shifts in voter demographics, particularly the working-class vote, and the political messaging aimed at different groups. It addresses the narratives surrounding Trump's alleged inroads with Black and Latino voters, critiquing the validity of certain polls and emphasizing the importance of economic policies in political messaging. The conversation also touches on the gender gap in voting patterns and the potential for working-class voters to sway elections, regardless of other identities. The paragraph concludes with a reminder that polls are snapshots and not predictive, highlighting the complexity of voter behavior and the challenges in interpreting polling data.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Nikki Haley

Nikki Haley is an American politician who served as the Governor of South Carolina and later as the United States Ambassador to the United Nations. In the video, she is discussed in the context of her political future and her decision to endorse former President Trump despite previously criticizing him. This decision is analyzed in terms of her political strategy and potential ambitions.

💡Endorsement

An endorsement in politics refers to a public declaration of support for a person, cause, or organization. In the script, Nikki Haley's endorsement of Trump is a key point of discussion, highlighting her statement that she will be voting for him despite previous criticisms, which raises questions about political expediency versus principled stances.

💡Political Expediency

Political expediency refers to actions taken by politicians to further their own interests, often at the expense of principles or long-term goals. The video discusses whether Haley's endorsement of Trump is driven by political expediency, suggesting that she may be aligning herself with a popular figure within her party to secure her future political career.

💡Character

In the context of the video, 'character' refers to the moral qualities or principles of an individual, particularly a political figure. The discussion revolves around the importance of moral character in leadership and whether it should be overlooked for political gains, as seen in the analysis of Nikki Haley's actions and potential motivations.

💡Populist Party

A populist party is one that seeks to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups. The video mentions a 'working-class populist party,' referring to the Republican party's current alignment with Trump's populist rhetoric and the expectation for politicians to align with his program to ensure their political future.

💡Trial

The term 'trial' in the script refers to the criminal trial involving former President Trump on charges related to hush money payments. The discussion centers on the potential impact of the trial's outcome on public opinion and the upcoming election, with speculation on how a conviction or acquittal might influence voter behavior.

💡Acquittal

Acquittal is a legal term indicating that a person has been found not guilty of a crime. In the video, the potential acquittal of Trump is considered in terms of its possible effects on public perception and the political landscape, with the suggestion that it could embolden his supporters or influence undecided voters.

💡Conviction

A conviction refers to the verdict in a criminal trial where the defendant is found guilty. The video script explores the implications of a possible conviction of Trump, hypothesizing how it might affect the political race and the public's view of his candidacy.

💡Voter Outreach

Voter outreach is a political strategy aimed at engaging with potential voters to garner support. The script discusses efforts by both President Biden and former President Trump to reach out to voters of color, particularly Black and Hispanic voters, highlighting the different messaging strategies each has employed to appeal to these demographics.

💡Moral Argument

A moral argument is a line of reasoning based on ethical principles or values. In the video, President Biden's speech at Morehouse College is mentioned, where he made a moral argument about democracy and masculinity, aiming to resonate with values of responsibility and integrity.

💡Working-Class Voters

Working-class voters are individuals who belong to the socioeconomic group engaged in manual labor or low-wage jobs. The video discusses the shift in political preferences among working-class voters, noting that they are increasingly voting based on their economic class rather than other identities, which could have significant implications for election outcomes.

Highlights

Nikki Haley announces she will be voting for Trump despite her previous criticisms.

David Brooks suggests that Haley's endorsement could be due to her desire to continue her political career within the Republican Party.

Jonathan Capehart criticizes the 'Marco Rubio option' where politicians align with Trump for political expediency, calling it 'soulless'.

Polls show 70% of Americans are closely following Trump's criminal hush money trial.

The potential impact of a conviction or acquittal in Trump's trial on the upcoming election is discussed.

Capehart expresses skepticism about the significance of polls and their predictive value for the election.

The importance of moral character in politics is debated, with Brooks arguing it should not be overlooked for political convenience.

The discussion suggests that the election may hinge on whether voters perceive Trump as a threat to democracy.

President Biden's outreach to voters of color, particularly Black and Hispanic voters, is highlighted.

Former President Trump's messaging to voters of color and his perceived inroads among these demographics are analyzed.

Capehart disputes the narrative of Trump gaining significant Black support, citing a New York Times poll with a small sample size.

The role of economic messaging combined with moral arguments in political speeches is discussed, with reference to President Biden's speech.

David Brooks points out the shift in working-class voters' behavior, suggesting a real trend across multiple elections and polls.

The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the central question of the election and its impact on voters' decisions.

The potential influence of international trends on the upcoming election is mentioned, with a comparison to other right-wing parties worldwide.

Transcripts

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G

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FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE

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CAMPAIGN TRAIL, NIKKI HALEY

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ANNOUNCES SHE WILL BE BACK IN

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HER FORMER ARRIVAL THIS FALL.

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WE WILL TURN OUT TO THE ANALYSIS

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OF BROOKS AND CAPEHART WITH

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DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN

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CAPEHART, ASSOCIATE EDITOR FOR

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THE WASHINGTON POST.

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GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH HERE

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IN PERSON TOGETHER.

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LET'S START WITH NIKKI HALEY.

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SINCE SHE ENDED HER CAMPAIGN,

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THE BIG QUESTION WAS IF SHE

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WOULD ENDORSE TRUMP THIS WEEK.

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SHE ANSWERED THAT.

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TAKE A LISTEN.

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>> I WILL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP.

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HAVING SAID THAT, I STAND BY

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WHAT I SAID IN MY SUSPENSION

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SPEECH, TRUMP WOULD BE SMART TO

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REACH OUT TO THE MILLIONS OF WHO

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VOTED FOR ME AND CONTINUE

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TO SUPPORT ME, AND NOT ASSUME

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THAT THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE

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WITH HIM.

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AND I GENUINELY HOPE HE DOES

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THAT.

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>> DAVID, SHE DID NOT HAVE TO DO

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THIS, RIGHT?

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CHRIS CHRISTIE RAN AGAINST HIM

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AND HAS NOT ENDORSED HIM, ASA

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HUTCHINSON, THE SAME.

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WHY DO THIS AND WHY NOW?

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>> IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN

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POLITICIAN, YOU HAVE TWO

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OPTIONS, THE LIZ CHENEY OPTION,

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WHERE YOU TAKE A PRINCIPLED

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STANDING AND YOU BECOME A FORMER

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POLITICIAN, OR THE SECOND, THE

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MARCO RUBIO OPTION, WHICH AS YOU

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GET ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM AND

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DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND JUST GET

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ALONG WITH TRUMP WORLD.

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I ASSUME NIKKI HALEY WANTS TO

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CONTINUE HER CAREER AS A

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POLITICIAN AND BELIEVES

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FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY AND SHE HAS GONE FOR THE

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MARCO RUBIO OPTION.

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THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK HER IS,

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IN MOST LINES OF WORK, IF YOU

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THINK SOMEONE IS A MORAL

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DEGENERATE, YOU DON'T GET TO THE

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SECOND QUESTION OF, WHAT DO YOU

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THINK ABOUT TAX POLICY?

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[LAUGHTER]

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YOU SORT OF STOP THERE.

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SHE REALLY HAS SERIOUS NOT ONLY

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DOUBTS BUT IS TOTALLY CONDEMNING

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OF HIS CHARACTER.

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WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT MARGINAL

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TAX RATES?

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IF HE'S A BAD GUY, HE'S GOING TO

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BE -- SHE CARES ABOUT AMERICA'S

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ALLIANCES ABROAD AND I AGREE

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WITH HER ON MOST ISSUES ON THAT

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FRONT BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE

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GOOD FOR ALLIES IF HE'S GOING TO

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BETRAY ALLIES, AS HE BETRAYS ALL

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HIS FRIENDS.

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MORAL CHARACTER REALLY DOES

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MATTER.

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IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUMP

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OVER FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE.

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>> IS IT ABOUT POLITICAL

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SURVIVOR, IS IT A VP PLAY,

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POTENTIALLY?

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>> WHO KNOWS?

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QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T CARE.

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AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE FOR

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ALL THE THINGS DAVID JUST SAID,

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THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION, GET WITH

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THE PROGRAM, YOU THROW ALL THE

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VALUES -- ALL YOUR VALUES, ALL

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YOUR POSITIONS, ALL YOUR

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CHARACTER OUT THE WINDOW FOR

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POLITICAL PURPOSES?

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THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION

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IS A SOULLESS OPTION.

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SHE CALLED TRUMP EVERYTHING BUT

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A CHILD OF GOD IN THE CLOSING

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WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND NOW

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SHE IS SAYING I'M GOING TO VOTE

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FOR HIM -- BUT?

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THE DAVID'S POINT, THERE IS NO

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BUT HERE.

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WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC POLICY

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OR FOREIGN POLICY.

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I WISH NIKKI HALEY HAD STOOD BY

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THE CONVICTION SHE SHOWED IN THE

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FINAL WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND

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GONE THE LIZ CHENEY ROUTE AND

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NOT BLOW UP HER CAREER BUT TO

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SOMETHING BIGGER THAN CRAVEN

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POLITICAL AMBITION SOMEWHERE

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DOWN THE ROAD.

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>> YOU SAY SHE DID IT FOR

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POLITICAL SURVIVOR, IS THAT

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POLITICAL FUTURE UNDERMINED BY

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SOMEONE WHO COMPLETELY 180'ED ON

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HER STANCE?

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NOW SHE ENDORSES HIM?

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>> NOT IN MY LIFETIME, HOPEFULLY

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A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.

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[LAUGHTER]

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FOR THE NEXT DECADE.

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THIS IS A WORKING-CLASS

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POPULIST PARTY AND YOU BETTER

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GET WITH A TRUMP PROGRAM OR I

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REALLY DON'T SEE A FUTURE FOR

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YOU.

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>> SPEAKING OF FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP, BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK,

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WE COULD HAVE A VERDICT IN HIS

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CRIMINAL HUSH MONEY TRIAL IN NEW

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YORK WHICH THE LATEST POLLS SHOW

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A LOT OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN

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PAYING ATTENTION TO IN SOME

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FORM.

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THE LATEST NUMBERS FROM

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QUINNIPIAC SHOW A 70% OF THOSE

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POLLED SAY THEY ARE VERY CLOSELY

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OR SOMEWHAT CLOSELY FOLLOWING

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THE TRIAL.

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DO YOU THINK A CONVICTION OR

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ACQUITTAL CHANGES THE RACE AT

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ALL?

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>> YES, HOW COULD IT NOT WHEN

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YOU HAVE 70% OF THE PEOPLE WHO

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ARE PAYING ATTENTION?

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IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,

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I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

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THE PEOPLE REACT.

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IF IT IS A CONVICTION,

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I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

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PEOPLE REACT.

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THAT IS A GREAT SIGN.

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I AM GLAD THE MAJORITY OF

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE

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PAYING ATTENTION TO A TRIAL

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THAT IS NOT EVEN BEING

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TELEVISED.

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BEFORE THE TRIAL STARTED,

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I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?

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MAYBE THIS YEAR WILL BE

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LIKE THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE

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HEARINGS.

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NOT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY

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WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT BUT THEY

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DID.

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BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A SLOW

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TRICKLE.

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PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION.

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THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TOLD PEOPLE

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THEY WERE PAYING ATTENTION.

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BUT HOW CAN YOU SIT THROUGH

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10 EPISODES OF COMPELLING

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TESTIMONY AND NOT HAVE IT IMPACT

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YOU?

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WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS --

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THIS CHILD IS NOT EVEN BEING

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TELEVISED.

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ON CABLE TELEVISION,

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THEY ARE GETTING LIVE

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READOUTS FROM REPORTERS

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INSIDE THE COURTROOM YET PEOPLE

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ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

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THAT IS A GREAT SIGN

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FOR THE REPUBLIC.

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>> I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.

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[LAUGHTER]

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U.S. PEOPLE, ARE YOU PLAYING --

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YOU ASK PEOPLE, ARE YOU PAYING

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CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE ENTIRE

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ELECTION?

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IS LIKE 45%, 50%.

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I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.

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[LAUGHTER]

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WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?

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I AM UNSURE ABOUT IT.

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A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT SAY IT

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WILL.

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BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,

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WHAT IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT?

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ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID EVERY

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ELECTION IS ABOUT AN ESSENTIAL

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QUESTION, IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT

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--

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DONALD TRUMP IS A THREAT TO

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DEMOCRACY, IF THAT IS WHAT IS

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AT THE CENTER OF PEOPLE'S MINDS,

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THEN THE TRIAL WILL HAVE AN

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EFFECT.

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BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,

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THE ELITES ARE

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SCREWING US AND CRUSHING THIS

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COUNTRY AND IF NOT, PEOPLE WILL

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NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE CHILD

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BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BIGGER

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THINGS ON THEIR MINDS.

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MY REVELATION IS, IT IS A

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MISTAKE TO LOOK AT THIS ELECTION

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IN AMERICA ONLY TERMS.

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IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD,

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WHO WAS DOING WELL, IT'S PEOPLE

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LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHETHER IT IS

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IN MODI IN INDIA, IN INDONESIA,

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IN THE NETHERLANDS, ALL AROUND

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THE WORLD, RIGHT WING PARTIES,

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PORTUGAL, THEY ARE DOING

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PHENOMENAL.

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THIS MAY BE JUST THAT KIND OF

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YEAR.

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BUT I AM UNCERTAIN.

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WHICH WILL BE THE CENTRAL

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QUESTION?

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>> IF THE TRIAL MATTERS, AND

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IF THERE IS A CONVICTION,

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SO FAR WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT

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BIDEN KEEPING IT AT ARMS LENGTH,

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DO YOU THINK WE WILL HEAR MORE

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FROM HIM IF THERE'S A

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CONVICTION?

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WILL HE LEAN INTO IT?

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>> WE WILL HEAR MORE FROM HIM

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ONCE OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS HAS

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PLAYED ITSELF OUT.

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NO MATTER WHAT THE VERDICT IS.

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IF IT'S A CONVICTION,

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YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE WILL SAY

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SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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YOU WANT IT CRIMINALLY --

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A CRIMINALLY CONVICTED PRESIDENT

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OF THE UNITED STATES?

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IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,

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I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT

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THE MESSAGE IS.

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JUST AS PRESIDENT BIDEN

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DID NOT TALK ABOUT TRUMP

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BY NAME UNTIL HE WAS THE

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PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE, I DON'T

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EXPECT THEM TO SAY ANYTHING

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UNTIL THE CASE IS DONE.

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>> WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN

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AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING

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A LOT OF OUTREACH TO VOTERS OF

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COLOR IN PARTICULAR, BLACK

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VOTERS AND HISPANIC VOTERS, A

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GROUP THAT WENT HEAVILY FOR MR.

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BIDEN AND 2020 -- IN 2020.

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HERE IS PART OF WHAT HE HAD TO

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SAY TO THE GRADUATING CLASS AT

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MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.

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>> WE KNOW BLACK MEN ARE GOING

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TO HELP LEAD US IN THE FUTURE,

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FROM THIS CLASS AND THIS

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UNIVERSITY.

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[APPLAUSE]

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GRADUATES, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE

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UP AGAINST, EXTREMIST FORCES.

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THEY PEDDLE FICTION, A

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CARICATURE.

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BUT BEING A MAN IS ABOUT

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TOUGH TALK.

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ABUSING POWER, BIGOTRY,

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THEIR IDEA IS TOXIC.

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>> HERE IS HOW FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP ADDRESSED A CROWD IN THE

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BRONX LAST NIGHT.

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>> THESE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS

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OF THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR

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COUNTRY -- THE'S BIGGEST IMPACT

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ON THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE IMPACT

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IS AGAINST OUR BLACK POPULATION

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WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS,

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LOSING THEIR HOUSING, LOSING

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EVERYTHING THEY CAN LOSE.

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>> THOSE ARE TWO VERY

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DIFFERENT KINDS OF MESSAGING YET

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TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS WITH SOME

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OF THESE VOTERS OF COLOR.

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WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

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>> OK, BUCKLE UP.

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[LAUGHTER]

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THIS INROADS, THIS NOTION

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TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS AS A

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RESULT OF A NEW YORK TIMES POLL

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THAT CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY, WHERE

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SHOCKINGLY IT SAID TRUMP WAS

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GETTING 23% OF BLACK SUPPORT --

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NOW, WHEN I WAS CONFRONTED WITH

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THIS, I WAS LIKE, DO YOU EVEN

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KNOW THE SAMPLE SIZE?

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BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT --

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AS ANY BLACK POLLSTER, THEY ARE

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LIKE, IT'S NOT THERE.

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THE SAMPLE SIZE ON THAT POLL WAS

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119 RESPONDENTS FOR A NATIONAL

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POLL.

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>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.

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>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.

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WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY FOUR

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YEARS.

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WILL BLACK VOTERS SHOW UP?

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THE SUPPORT IS SOFTENING --

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MY GOD, IT FEELS LIKE, TO LOTS

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OF US THAT THESE NARRATIVES ARE

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PERPETUATED SO THAT IF THE

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DEMOCRAT LOSES, NO MATTER WHAT

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RACE, OH, THE AFRICAN AMERICANS

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DID NOT SHOW UP SO IT IS THEIR

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FAULT.

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WITH THE PRESIDENT'S'S SPEECH,

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HE MADE THE MORAL ARGUMENT ABOUT

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DEMOCRACY AND MASCULINITY IN

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EVERYTHING BUT HE ALSO TALKED

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SPECIFICS.

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$16 BILLION INVESTED IN HBCUS.

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CUTTING BLACK CHILD POVERTY.

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WHAT GOT THE BIGGEST APPLAUSE

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LINE WAS STUDENT DEBT RELIEF.

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HE IS COMBINING AN ECONOMIC

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MESSAGE WITH THE MORAL MESSAGE.

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AND KNOWING WHO HIS AUDIENCE IS,

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DONALD TRUMP, THIS IS NOT ABOUT

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GETTING BLACK VOTERS TO VOTE FOR

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HIM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT GETTING

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LATINO VOTERS TO VOTE FOR HIM,

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BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW

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HISPANIC AMERICANS THERE, AT

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THAT RALLY IN THE BRONX, BUT

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT COURTING THEM,

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THIS IS ABOUT A PERMISSION

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STRUCTURE FOR WHITE VOTERS ON

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THE PERIPHERY WHO LOOK AND HEAR

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LANGUAGE LIKE THAT AND THINK, I

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DON'T LIKE THAT, I DON'T LIKE

10:39

HIM, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT

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SOUNDS, BUT WAIT, HE IS IN THE

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SOUTH BRONX, TALKING TO THOSE

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PEOPLE, MAYBE HE'S NOT THAT BAD.

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THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.

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>> DAVID, A FINAL WORD HERE.

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WE'VE GOT A MINUTE LEFT.

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>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS ABOUT

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ONE POLL.

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[LAUGHTER]

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OBAMA WON THE WHITE WORKING

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CLASS BY 76%, BIDEN IS UP BY 6%.

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THE RESULTS IN TEXAS AND

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CALIFORNIA, LATINO VOTERS IN

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2020, THOSE WERE ACTUAL RESULTS.

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THOSE WERE RESULTS SHOWING A

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SHIFT.

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THE WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL

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SHOWING AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN,

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30% FOR TRUMP, THESE ARE A WHOLE

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BUNCH OF BOWLING RESULTS --

11:19

THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE

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RESULTS LEAD TO VOTING RESULTS?

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A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO

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DISAFFECTED THAT THEY MAY NOT

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VOTE.

11:26

IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE THAT

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WORKING-CLASS VOTERS ARE VOTING

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MORE LIKE WORKING-CLASS VOTERS

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NO MATTER WHAT OTHER IDENTITIES

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THEY MAY HAVE.

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I THINK THERE'S A GENDER GAP

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WHERE GUYS ARE MOVING.

11:36

HOW BIG THAT IS?

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A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE MAY

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REGISTER A PROTEST WITH THE

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POSTER BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET

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WITH THINGS BUT THAT DOES NOT

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MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE THIS

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WAY.

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I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO --

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I THINK THE TREND TOWARD WORKING

11:50

CLASS PEOPLE VOTING, THAT

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IS A REAL THING THAT IS ACROSS A

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LOT OF ELECTIONS AND A LOT OF

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POLLS.

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>> POLLS OUR A MOMENT IN TIME,

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THEY ARE NOT PREDICTIVE.

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IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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