Donald Trump Found GUILTY in Hush Money Trial | EMERGENCY PODCAST | PBD Podcast | Ep. 417
Summary
TLDRIn an emergency podcast, the hosts discuss the recent guilty verdict on 34 counts of falsifying business records against former President Trump, related to hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. They analyze reactions from both sides of the political spectrum, highlighting the use of the term 'convicted felon' as a rallying cry. The conversation also delves into potential implications for the upcoming election, the impact on Trump's legal challenges, and the emotional response from the public. The hosts express their concerns about the deepening divide in the country and the potential for increased political violence, while also emphasizing their belief in the resilience and common sense of the American people.
Takeaways
- 📢 Former President Trump has been found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records, related to a $13,000 payment to Stormy Daniels made before the 2016 election.
- 🎙️ The verdict has sparked a media frenzy with the term 'convicted felon' being widely used to describe Trump, indicating a potential new narrative against him in political discourse.
- 🔍 The potential jail sentence per count is up to four years, but it is likely that any sentences would be served concurrently rather than consecutively, reducing the total time.
- 🚨 Trump's sentencing hearing is set for July 11th, just days before the Republican National Convention (RNC), which could have significant implications for the event's atmosphere and messaging.
- 🏛️ Trump is also facing additional criminal cases related to his post-election conduct and retention of classified records, as well as civil judgments.
- 🗣️ Trump has publicly declared his innocence and criticized the trial as 'rigged' and 'disgraceful,' blaming political motivations for the charges against him.
- 🤔 There is speculation about the impact of the verdict on the upcoming election, with some suggesting that it could energize Trump's base or potentially sway undecided voters.
- 🛑 The discussion highlights a deep divide in the American public's reaction to the verdict, with some celebrating and others expressing anger or disbelief at the outcome.
- 📉 Concerns are raised about the potential for increased business departures from New York due to the perception of biased justice against conservatives and billionaires.
- 🔗 The podcast hosts express a range of views, from seeing the verdict as part of a politically motivated 'witch hunt' against Trump to concerns about the implications for the rule of law and the upcoming election.
- 🌐 The transcript underscores the power of social media and independent platforms in shaping public opinion and providing alternative narratives to mainstream media coverage.
Q & A
What was the emergency podcast about?
-The emergency podcast was about the announcement that Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, related to the $13,000 payment to Stormy Daniels.
Who testified during the trial that Trump directed the payment to Stormy Daniels?
-Trump's then personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified during the trial that Trump directed him to make the payment to Stormy Daniels in 2016.
What is significant about Trump being charged with a crime?
-Trump is the first former US president to be charged with a crime, marking a significant event in American legal and political history.
What phrase did people on social media repeatedly use in response to the verdict?
-People on social media repeatedly used the phrase 'convicted felon' in response to the verdict.
What is the potential jail sentence for each count Trump was found guilty of?
-The potential jail sentence for each count is four years, though it is possible to serve the sentences concurrently rather than consecutively.
When is the sentencing hearing scheduled for Trump?
-The sentencing hearing for Trump is scheduled for July 11th at 10:00 a.m.
How did Trump respond to the verdict outside of the court?
-Trump called the trial a disgrace, a rigged trial by a conflicted and corrupt judge, and stated that he is a very innocent man who is fighting for the country and its constitution.
What other criminal cases is Trump facing?
-Trump is facing three more pending criminal cases, two related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and one in Florida related to his retention of classified government records after leaving the White House.
What was the general sentiment among the people discussing the verdict in the podcast?
-The general sentiment among the people in the podcast was a mix of concern for the implications of the verdict on the country, the political divide, and the fairness of the justice system, as well as a belief in the resilience and judgment of the American people.
What was the discussion about the impact of the verdict on the upcoming election?
-The discussion suggested that the verdict could potentially sway the election, with some believing it might energize Trump supporters and others fearing it could further divide the country and intensify political tensions.
Outlines
📢 Trump Found Guilty: Podcast Emergency Broadcast
The podcast begins with a dramatic announcement that former President Trump has been found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records. This verdict is related to a $13,000 payment made to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 election, orchestrated by Trump's then personal lawyer, Michael Cohen. The hosts discuss the implications of the verdict, the public's reaction, and its potential impact on the political landscape. They also mention Trump's first response to the verdict, claiming it to be a 'rigged trial' and a 'disgrace.'
🔥 Political Fallout: Market Reactions and Sentiments
This section delves into the reactions from various political figures and the public following Trump's conviction. The hosts highlight tweets and comments from both sides of the political spectrum, with some calling for Trump to face the consequences of his actions and others decrying the verdict as politically motivated. The conversation also touches on the potential impact on voter behavior and the upcoming election, with a focus on the use of the term 'convicted felon' as a rallying cry.
🤔 Analyzing the Aftermath: Legal and Political Implications
The hosts analyze the potential legal and political implications of Trump's conviction. They discuss the possibility of businesses leaving New York due to the perceived political bias in the justice system and speculate on how public opinion might shift in response to the verdict. There's also a conversation about the timing of the sentencing hearing and its proximity to the Republican National Convention, suggesting a strategic move to influence the political climate.
🎙️ Media Coverage and Public Discourse
The paragraph focuses on the media's role in shaping public opinion following Trump's conviction. It discusses the potential for the media to influence the narrative around the trial and its outcome, as well as the public's reaction to the coverage. The hosts express concern about the polarization of the media and its effect on the unity of the country.
👥 Perspectives on Justice: A Deep Dive into Reactions
This section presents a range of perspectives on the justice system in light of Trump's conviction. The hosts explore the idea that the justice system may be perceived as biased or politicized, and they discuss the potential long-term effects on the country's legal and political institutions. They also consider the possibility of a constitutional crisis and the implications for the upcoming elections.
🔍 Dissecting the Debate: Strategies and Predictions
The hosts anticipate the upcoming presidential debate and predict the strategies that both sides might employ. They speculate on how often the term 'convicted felon' might be used and discuss the potential impact on the election. The conversation also touches on the sequencing of political events and their significance in the broader political landscape.
🚨 Contemplating Extremes: The 'What If' Scenarios
In this segment, the hosts contemplate various 'what if' scenarios, including the potential for Trump's assassination and its aftermath. They discuss the implications for the Republican National Convention and the potential chaos that could ensue. The conversation also includes the possibility of a floor vote at the convention and the nomination process in the event of an unexpected vacancy.
💥 The Spark Ignites: Anticipating the Aftermath
The hosts anticipate the aftermath of Trump's conviction, likening it to a spark that ignites a larger fire. They predict increased polarization and division among Americans, with the potential for social unrest and conflict. The conversation also touches on the role of the media in amplifying these divisions and the challenges ahead for the country.
🌐 The Shift in Power: The Rise of Independent Voices
This section discusses the shift in power from mainstream media to independent voices. The hosts express optimism about the future and highlight the importance of hope in overcoming adversity. They encourage viewers to embrace the idea that 'the future looks bright' and to find common ground with others who share their values and aspirations.
📈 Looking Ahead: The Future of American Politics
The final paragraph focuses on the future of American politics in the wake of Trump's conviction. The hosts express confidence in the American people's ability to make informed decisions and to navigate the challenges ahead. They also discuss the importance of staying informed and engaged in the political process, and they invite viewers to join them in shaping the future.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Guilt
💡Convicted Felon
💡Sentencing
💡Trump
💡Pardons
💡Marketplace
💡Overturn
💡Concurrent Sentence
💡Rigged Trial
💡Political Opponent
💡Civil Judgment
💡Election Overturn
💡Classified Records
💡Constitution
💡Deep State
💡Mainstream Media
💡Optimism
Highlights
Trump found guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, related to a $13,000 payment to Stormy Daniels.
This marks the first time a former US president has been charged with a crime.
The sentence could range from four to 136 years in jail, although served concurrently.
Judge Merchin denied Trump's move for an acquittal and set a sentencing hearing for July 11th.
Trump's sentencing hearing is scheduled 4 days before the RNC in Milwaukee.
Trump faces three more pending criminal cases related to election overturn efforts and classified records.
Trump's response to the verdict claims a rigged trial and corruption, vowing to fight for the constitution.
The term 'convicted felon' is emphasized in reactions, indicating a strategy for upcoming debates and discussions.
Market reactions show a division, with some calling for justice and others claiming political motivation.
Concerns are raised about the impact on New York businesses and the potential for owners to leave.
The Lincoln Project releases an ad emphasizing Trump's conviction and the public's reaction.
There is speculation about the potential for violence or unrest following the verdict.
Some political commentators suggest the verdict could energize Trump's base and impact the upcoming election.
Discussions about the potential for Trump's conviction to sway undecided or independent voters.
Concerns about the integrity of the justice system and the influence of political agendas on legal processes.
Predictions and speculations about the immediate and long-term effects of the verdict on Trump's political future.
Calls for unity and a return to fairness and integrity in the political and legal systems.
Transcripts
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one all right so if you're tuning in
it's because it's an emergency podcast
Trump found guilt on all 34 counts uh
we're going to go through a few
different things on what others are
saying uh what the market is talking
about what is this going to look like
we'll share some of our thoughts and
then we'll wrap up as well as give you
some other people that you may use to
ask questions of let me go through some
of these things that just came in so
less than an hour ago or about an hour
ago Trump found guilty on 34 counts of
falsifying business records in the first
degree he uh uh this is related to the
$13,000 payment to porn stormmy Daniels
by his then personal lawyer Michael
Cohen before the 2016 election Cohen
testified during the trial uh that Trump
directed him to pay Daniels in 2016
obviously we know what happened with
Cohen Trump's the first former US
president to be charged with a crime if
you notice in a Marketplace what is very
consistent with what everybody is
tweeting they're using the same exact
phrase by everybody convicted felon
convicted felon convicted felon
convicted felon remember Russia
collusion remember convicted felon
remember you know Russian racist
remember all this stuff this is the new
two w so we're learning English with
these guys on how they're handling it at
least maybe for me as efl guy English as
a fifth language the next two words
that's going to be popular in the next
five months will be convicted felon at
the debate everywhere watch this
potential jail sentence four years per
each count however Trump could serve the
sentence concurrently rather than
consecutively so he could be looking at
four or 136 years in jail according to
CNN judge merchin denied Trump's move
for an acquittal and set a sentencing
hearing for July 11th at 10:
a.m. 4 days before the RNC in Milwaukee
Trump remains free without trial the 12
members jury deliberated less than 10
hours over two days before sending out a
note to judge Merchant saying they've
had they've reached a verdict before the
announcement Trump's lawyers prosecutors
reported exp expected the jury to be
dismissed for the dayby at 4:30 uh Trump
faces three more pending criminal cases
in two of these day cases Trump is
charged with criminal related to his
efforts to overturn his 2020 election
that's one one of these cases in federal
court in DC the others in Georgia and
Atlanta Trump is charged with federal
court in Florida with crimes related to
his retention of classified government
records after he left the White House in
January 2021 he also faces a civil
judgment in Manhattan Court which we
know that about $450 million also o a
couple other for Ean Carroll and he's
obviously appealing the verdicts in the
three civil cases let me share with you
what he said when he got out of uh Court
Rob if you can play that clip this is
him right after he leave the uh the
court go
forward you about to
jail this was a disgrace this was a
rigged trial by a conflicted judge who
was
corrupt it's a Rigg trial a disgrace
they wouldn't give us a venue change we
were at 5% or
6% in this District in this area this
was a rigged disgraceful trial the real
verdict is going to be November 5th by
the people yes and they know what
happened here and everybody knows what
happened here you have a Sor respect
back da and the whole thing we didn't do
a thing wrong I'm a very innocent
man and it's okay I'm fighting for our
country I'm fighting for our
constitution our whole country is being
rigged right now this was done by the
Biden
Administration in order to wound or hurt
an opponent a political opponent and I
think it's a just a disgrace and we'll
keep fighting we'll fight till the end
and we'll win because
our we don't have the same country
anymore we have a divided mess we're
nation in Decline serious decline
millions and millions of people pouring
into our country right now from prisons
and from mental institutions terrorists
and they're taking over our country we
have a country that's in big trouble but
this was a rigged decision right from
day one with a conflicted judge who
should have never been allowed to try
this case never and we will fight for
our constitution this is long from over
thank you very much why should voters go
for
tell listen back up back up it's
important because this is this is
telling you what their game plan is
going to be listen very carefully folks
go ahead this is long from over thank
you very much
why are
you okay pause it why should voters vote
for a convicted felon just remember that
was the first question whoever she
represented that voice that's what
they're going to be going with the next
four and a half five months okay so
brace impact that's what we're hearing
now go to the market let's see what some
people are
saying rob start off with the people on
the left and go to some people on the
right whoever you have so okay Keith
obman Bingo obviously he's a sweetheart
yeah uh uh next Jeff tedrick uh Trump is
guilty as F haa Oops I meant how
terrible as guilty as F Donald Trump now
go to his profile so people know who he
is and what his profile says yeah look
at his face it says don't blame me I
voted for the email lady okay you know
who he's talking about you know where he
stands yeah uh next Brian cenin the
verdict is in guilt on all accounts
Trump is officially convicted felon
you're either now planning to vote for
convicted felon for president or you not
stop pretending that the side that is
not voting for the Felon is a crazy one
if I ask any American 2016 whether they
would vote for convicted felon 99.9%
would have said heck no you change not
the American justice system go to the
next one Rob um Brian Tyler Cohen uh
guilty guilty guilty go ahead let's see
what Don Don Lemon has creative uh
what's Don lemon's got Robb uh W news
guilty on 24 34 counts he is now a
convicted felon notice the key words
convicted felon that's the marketing
Lincoln project they have a clip if you
want to play this clip um is this the
same clip rob you just had the clip yeah
watch this clip from Lincoln project
obviously these guys are amazing yeah
Donald Trump found guilty on all 34
counts of falsifying business records in
the first you're criminal
Donald this brand is coming pay
attention not the Deep State not the Dem
rats not the Biden
Administration a jury regular people who
saw the evidence yeah and felt sick Oh
no you're a criminal and you did it to
yourself nobody's ever seen anything
like this it's a it's a shame your
defense was weak because you were weak
they had no argument because there is no
argument you were too scared to testify
because you knew
Donald you
know you're
guilty guilty is sin there you go so
that's Lin project has
charged well yeah the L the Lincoln
project how many of them were pedophiles
or pedophile one of them registered for
a Russian agent uh and the other ones
were cheating on his tax your friend
Steve Schmid United States of America
has entered a constitutional crisis
there is no question that there about
this or consequence of the Fidelity
we're about to see from the Republican
elected officials to the convicted felon
go to the next one loser uh Biden
immediately there's only one way to keep
Donald Trump out of Oval Office at The
Ballot Box donate to our campaign today
go to the next one um no one in this
country is above the law this is the
same guy that robs had pulled the uh
fire alarm and then he got away with it
so being convicted for falsifying
business records with hush money go to
the next one you need to see all this
stuff guys now go to what Tucker and
some of the people on the right are
saying rob um
important the third world became become
the third import the third world become
the third world that's what we just saw
this won't stop Trump he'll win the
election if he's not killed first but it
does Mark the end of the fairest justice
system in the world anyone who defends
this verdict is a danger to you and your
family go to the next one Megan Kelly
guilty on all counts the country is
disgrace Alam BR should be the sparred
this uh they will Ru the day they
unleash this lawfare to corrupt
presidential election go to the next one
what an fing scam F all these commies go
to the next one this is a dark day for
America go to the next one uh who is
this Rona santis I'll read this one to
you because it's Ron today's verdict
represents the culmination of a legal
process that has been uh bent to the
political will of the actors involved a
leftist prosecutor a partisan judge and
a jury reflective of one of the most
liberal in uh enclaves in America in all
effort to get Trump this case involving
alleged misdemeanor business records
violations from nearly a decade ago was
even brought in a as a testament to the
political debasement of the justice
system in places like New York City this
is especially true considering the same
district attorney routinely excuses
criminal conducts in a way that has been
endangered law-abiding citizens and
jurisdiction it is often said that no
one is above the law but is also true
that no one is below the law if the
defendant were not Donald Trump this
case would never have been brought the
judge would have never issued similar
rulers LS and the jury would have never
returned a guilty verdict in America the
rule of law should be applied to this uh
this this passionate evenhanded manner
not become captive to the political
agenda of some kangaroo court go to the
next one uh Biden guilty of abuse of
power Biden guilty of turning our
country into a Banana Republic where
those abuse of power law to go after
political opponents guilty of
undermining our Constitution and the
freedoms guaranteed therein Biden has
proven he is UN for the office of
presidency anyways we can say a bunch of
different things by a bunch of different
people uh Trump's website is down right
now if you can go to put people wanting
to donate so you're seeing how people
are
reacting if you can refresh his website
so we can just see it Rob uh uh refresh
it uhoh it's down go to the next one uh
under maintenance okay now it's back
Never Surrender can you now give money
or no if you can go lower complete my
yeah you can okay so this one's back up
which means what does this tell you so
you could traffic is going so much to
the website where people are reacting in
a way Rob can you go to my last tweet
just to kind of give my thoughts and
then I'm going to come to you guys to
get some thoughts here here's what I
think this is exactly what my position
is with this it's two things okay number
one is expect two things number one more
businesses leaving New York just guess
guess what if you're a business owner in
New York here's the decision you have to
make for the rest of your life you can
never have
conservative political
aspirations and you can't be a
billionaire you can't be aspirational
you can't be too loud or else they're
going to destroy they're going to try to
destroy your life New York's about to
have more business owners leave there a
lot of people I'm talking to who have
stayed there asking there's even people
saying I'm waiting to see what's going
to happen here because if it's just a
you know a show circus show I'm staying
it's not a big deal but if they go here
I have to leave because I may may be
rised 5 10 15 20 years from now number
two poll's reacting positively towards
djt's favor Americans are not dumb what
the left hopes this will do will
shockingly surprise them future looks
bright but at the same time stay
extremely paranoid Tom your thoughts on
what happened today and what was
announced well this all started with
Alvin Bragg who's a political tool and
he took those misdemeanor counts we
covered it on the podcast and actually
we covered it a day before it was
unfolded in other forums talking about
how he had uh contrived it into uh a set
of things technically calling it a
felony um and so that's a complete tool
the jury instructions I could go on in
this and there are very learned uh legal
experts and Scholars are saying listen
this is for election year because under
appeal and where this is going to go um
this this is weak this is weak like
Colorado Supreme Court was weak and was
ultimately overturned by the Supreme
Court but look they're also trying to
put the sentencing right there 4 days
before uh the RNC in milwauke so I I
think what they have done and and I I'll
quote the Japanese emperor I fear we
have um awakened a sleeping giant
actually I don't know if emper that said
that or it was the the head of the U
Japanese Armed Forces but um after World
PE harur says I fear we have awakened a
sleeping giant and I honestly fear um
for for the country because it shows
that now in elections in the greatest um
democracy in the
world at least one side is so unafraid
to do whatever it takes an election even
walking across lines like this and so
that makes me sad for the future even as
I'm very confident on how this is going
to appeal but they don't give a crap
about appeal what they want is this D
disruption right now and they want the
word convict and the script is out and
it's used the word convicted felon beat
him to death with that Adam um I'm I'm
probably
not it's very weird where I'm at with
Trump right now um we know I wasn't a
fan but now I'm 100% out on Biden and
I've been subtly rooting for Trump like
meaning like come on man like let's
let's let's get this thing together I am
I'm so non-emotional about this that I'm
actually just being completely logical
about this I have zero emotion you might
people are GNA be like well [ __ ] you how
can you not people are gonna be like how
can you not hate Trump zero emotion
which is crazy right now I get it and
I'm just looking at the
facts you know last week we did a
podcast we talked about James Comey we
talked about his interview and um do you
remember what he said in the story he
said James Comey this is the story that
was in the media James Comey predicted
that Trump would be convicted in a hush
money trial and defends Vin brag um
bringing the case I said wow this is a
pretty big this is the former director
of the FBI yes he's biased but to come
out publicly and say this I was like
what do he know something we don't know
he said the following uh he predicted an
interview with Dan Abrams at the former
president Donald Trump would be
convicted in his hush money trial this
was a week ago is this a clip this is it