Can You Beat Pokémon FireRed with NO New Moves?
Summary
TLDRIn this challenge, the player attempts to conquer Pokémon Fire Red without teaching any Pokémon new moves or using items during battles. The journey begins with Bulbasaur as the starter, and the player strategically captures and utilizes Pokémon with strong innate moves. Key battles include defeating Gym Leaders and challenging the Elite Four, with Alakazam and Thunderbolt Raichu emerging as standout performers. The playthrough showcases clever strategy, highlighting the importance of each Pokémon's unique abilities and the player's resourcefulness in overcoming obstacles without relying on new moves or items.
Takeaways
- 🌟 Bulbasaur is chosen as the best starter for this challenge due to its type advantage against early gym leaders and its useful starting move, Leech Seed.
- 🏆 The strategy involves strict rules about learning new moves: a Pokémon with less than four moves can only learn level-up moves, and a Pokémon with four moves keeps them forever.
- 🥇 Pikachu's Thunderbolt move is crucial for the later stages of the game, making it a valuable addition to the team.
- 🔥 The player opts not to use the powerful Pokémon Zapdos due to its lack of electric-type moves and instead focuses on evolving Pikachu into Raichu with Thunderbolt.
- 🧊 Articuno is caught and used for its Ice Beam move, which proves effective against Lance's Dragon-type Pokémon.
- 🐍 The hunt for a suitable water-type Pokémon leads to the choice of Tentacruel with Bubble Beam, despite the limitations of water-type moves in this game generation.
- 🛡️ Alakazam's role is highlighted as a strong psychic-type Pokémon, especially with its ability to use Psybeam effectively in the Pokémon League.
- 🏋️♂️ Machamp is considered for its strength and the potential upgrade from its pre-evolution, Machoke.
- 🎣 The use of HMs (Hidden Machines) is optimized by designating specific Pokémon to learn them, such as Diglett for Dig.
- 🥊 The gym battles are approached with careful consideration of type advantages and the strategic use of status moves and abilities.
- 🏆 The final victory is achieved without using any new moves or items during the Pokémon League battles, emphasizing strategic team composition and move selection.
Q & A
What is the main challenge in this Pokémon Fire Red playthrough?
-The main challenge is to beat the game without teaching any Pokémon new moves, and adhering to specific rules about move sets when obtaining Pokémon.
Why is Bulbasaur considered the best starter choice for this challenge?
-Bulbasaur is considered the best starter because it prevents the rival from having it, avoiding the annoyance of Sleep Powder, and it has Leech Seed as one of its first four moves, which is very useful on fully evolved Pokémon.
What is the significance of the rule that if a Pokémon knows four moves when obtained, those are its moves forever?
-This rule adds difficulty to the challenge by limiting the strategic use of TMs and HMs to expand a Pokémon's move set, forcing the player to rely on the Pokémon's natural level-up moves and strategic team composition.
How does the player plan to handle the lack of Surf in their Pokémon's move set?
-The player plans to handle the lack of Surf by having designated Pokémon with specific HMs, such as Diglett with Dig, to navigate the game's water-based routes and challenges.
What is the role of Pikachu in this challenge?
-Pikachu plays a crucial role in the early game, with its Thunder Shock and Thunder Wave moves being very helpful. Later, the player evolves Pikachu into Raichu and uses it for its powerful Thunderbolt move, which is essential for battles in the Pokémon League.
Why does the player choose to sell Technical Machines (TMs)?
-The player sells TMs because they have no use for them in this challenge, as they cannot teach their Pokémon new moves beyond their naturally learned ones.
How does the player deal with the challenge of facing Psychic-type trainers without super effective damage options?
-The player relies on physical moves like Headbutt from Alakazam and Bubble Beam from Tentacruel to deal with Psychic-type trainers, as well as strategic use of status moves and other tactics to overcome the type disadvantage.
What is the strategy for obtaining a strong water-type Pokémon?
-The player aims to catch a Tentacruel with Bubble Beam, as it is one of the few water-type Pokémon that can learn a strong water-type move without the use of HMs or TMs.
How does the player handle the Rocket Hideout and the Pokémon Tower challenges?
-The player uses Alakazam's Psychic move and other strategic moves to defeat the Rocket Grunts and the Ghost-type Pokémon in the Pokémon Tower, relying on the Pokémon's naturally learned moves and their effects.
What is the final team composition used to defeat the Pokémon League?
-The final team consists of Articuno, Snorlax, Alakazam, Raichu, and Tentacruel, with Machamp being considered for the last two Gym battles. The player also uses a Thunderbolt Raichu for its powerful Electric-type move.
Outlines
🌟 The Challenge: Pokémon Fire Red No New Moves
The video script begins with the challenge of beating Pokémon Fire Red without teaching any Pokémon new moves. The player discusses the rules, which include limitations on move learning based on the number of moves a Pokémon knows when obtained. The player also shares their strategy for choosing Bulbasaur as the starter Pokémon and the importance of preventing the rival from having it. The script continues with the player's experiences in the early game, including catching a Ratata and finding a Pikachu, and the strategy for battling the first gym leader, Brock.
🥾 Diglett's Cave and the Hunt for a Diglett
In this paragraph, the player focuses on exploring Diglett's Cave in search of a Diglett to learn the move Dig. The player discusses the importance of having a reliable digging Pokémon and the strategy for evolving it to learn more powerful moves. The narrative includes the player's encounters with other trainers and their efforts to prepare for upcoming gym battles, including the acquisition of a powerful Diglett and the anticipation of facing Lieutenant Surge.
🌪️ Facing Koga and the Poison Type Gym
The player recounts the battle against Koga, the Poison type gym leader, emphasizing the challenges of fighting with a team not optimized for this type. The player discusses the strategy used, including the reliance on Alakazam and the decision to swap Pokémon during the battle. The paragraph also covers the player's victory over Koga and the acquisition of Snorlax, which is seen as an upgrade to the player's team.
💡 The Power Plant and the Hunt for Pikachu
In this section, the player describes the visit to the power plant, where Pikachu can be found at level 26, the perfect level to learn Thunderbolt. The player explains the decision to evolve Pikachu into Raichu for its powerful Electric-type moves and the strategy for catching Articuno using the newly acquired Thunderbolt Raichu. The paragraph also includes the player's encounter with Giovanni and the preparation for the upcoming gym battles.
🌊 Choosing a Water Type for the Team
The player deliberates on the choice of a water type Pokémon for the team, considering various options and their move sets. The player expresses frustration with the limited options and the lack of powerful water type moves available for certain Pokémon. The decision to catch a Tentacruel with Bubble Beam is made, and the player shares the process of finding and catching the desired Pokémon.
🏋️♂️ Preparing for the Psychic Type Gym Battle
The player discusses the strategy for facing the Psychic type gym, expressing concern about the lack of super effective moves against Psychic Pokémon. The player details the team's preparation, including the use of Alakazam and the anticipation of facing the gym leader, Sabrina. The paragraph also covers the player's thoughts on the potential difficulty of the upcoming battle and the reliance on physical attacks.
🏆 The Pokémon League and the Final Battle
The player recounts the journey through the Pokémon League, detailing each battle and the strategies employed against the Elite Four. The player highlights the importance of Alakazam and Raichu, particularly for their powerful Psychic and Electric moves, respectively. The narrative culminates in the final battle against the Pokémon Champion, where the player reflects on the challenge and the satisfaction of completing the game without teaching any Pokémon new moves or using items in battle.
🎉 Victory and Reflection on the Journey
In the final paragraph, the player celebrates the victory in Pokémon Fire Red without using new moves or items in battle. The player expresses happiness over the strategic decision to evolve Pikachu into Raichu for its powerful Thunderbolt move. The paragraph serves as a conclusion to the player's unique challenge and the successful completion of the game.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Pokémon Fire Red
💡Bulbasaur
💡HMs (Hidden Machines)
💡Leech Seed
💡Raticate
💡Pikachu
💡Abra
💡Diglett's Cave
💡Thunderbolt
💡Victory Road
💡Pokémon League
Highlights
The challenge of beating Pokémon Fire Red without teaching any Pokémon new moves, including not using Surf.
Bulbasaur is chosen as the best starter for this challenge due to its advantages against early gym leaders.
The importance of having a Pokémon with Leech Seed for its utility in fully evolved Pokémon.
The strategy of catching a Ratata for its powerful Hyper Fang move.
The decision to sell Technical Machines (TMs) as they are not needed for this challenge.
The process of obtaining a Pikachu with Thunderbolt, a powerful move for this challenge.
The strategy for battling Misty using a limited move set.
The hunt for a Diglett with Dig, and the impact of having a reliable move like Dig.
The challenge of facing Lieutenant Surge with a team not optimized for Electric types.
The discovery and use of a high-level Diglett for its Dig move.
The strategy for battling Koga with Alakazam, despite its limited move set.
The decision to catch Snorlax for its potential as an upgrade to other Pokémon.
The process of evolving a Pikachu into Raichu with Thunderbolt as its primary move.
The selection of Tentacruel as the water type Pokémon for its Bubble Beam move.
The strategy for battling the Elite Four with a team that has no new moves and limited move sets.
The final team composition and strategy for facing the Pokémon League.
The victory against the Pokémon League without using any new moves or items in battle.
Transcripts
can you beat Pokémon Fire Red without
teaching any Pokémon any new moves
technically no uh no Pokemon learns surf
by level up but if you have separate hm
designated Pokémon how tough is it to do
there are two rules for this challenge
rule number one if a Pokemon knows less
than four moves when I obtain it the
only moves it can learn are the ones it
learns by leveling up and Rule Number
Two If a Pokemon knows four moves when I
obtain it those are its moves forever
now for the starter choice and Bulbasaur
is by far the best one Bulbasaur is
normally the best starter in Kanto cuz
it's good against Brock and Misty but
it's extra good for this challenge for
two reasons the first reason is that it
prevents my rival from having it which
is uh great because sleep powder is
super annoying and the second is that
one of its first four moves is leech
seed which is amazing on fully evolved
Pokémon and is vastly superior to
Charmander smoke screen or Squirtle
withdraw first rival battle's going to
go however it would have gone in a
regular playthrough okay well uh no
Rival Battle experience for me subscribe
yeah am I greater what subscribing is
great you should consider doing so if
you have yet to do so I just lost to a
random Pidgey this is this is off to a
great start I believe level seven is
leech seed I just got pokeballs I
definitely want to catch a ratata its
first four moves are tackle tail whip
quick attack and Hyper Fang hyper Fang
has base 80 power please work
immediately all right all right I should
say thank you another potentially very
useful one it gets low kick and karate
chop and Lear which is not useless o I
got a jolly one let's go and low kick
immediately very good for the big rocks
if I could find Pikachu that would be
great growl and tail whip are not
helpful but Thunders shck and Thunder
Wave are I found a Pikachu dang it I'm
an idiot all right I found another one
it's going to leech seed it's only level
three really need this to work all right
now I got something for Birds oh me it's
modest and I just got Vine whip on
Bulbasaur it's final move this may be a
little bold but I'm going to fight Brock
I'm pretty sure A Couple Vine whips can
just win me the battle there was one
crit but didn't need it okay I don't
really care about the bind and the vine
whip destroys it okay that is one gym
badge down and probably going to be the
easiest for the entire game cuz I knew
the moves I was supposed to a technical
machine I have no use for this Brock can
I sell them I can sell them that's
awesome sweet running shoes finally and
the first occurrence of many Pikachu
wants to learn quick attack but can't
learn more than four moves delete a move
to make room for quick attack never just
got hyper Fang on ratata and it does it
does a lot that's why it's here oh dang
it I forgot about this battle I meant to
switch to Pikachu cuz I know he leads
with Pidgeotto 17 okay he's not going to
take damage but that's going to be
annoying Jesus yeah I hit the
thundershock at least oh my God that
does not enough enough but the paralysis
helps me here and it doesn't matter cuz
I missed okay well hyper Fang all righty
thank you for saving the day my tiny rat
his own ratat but I have monkey karate
chop nice all right easy peasy but next
is the spooky one oh my gosh level 18 I
am going to go ahead and tail whip it
cuz it can't get rid of any stat drops
that's a little annoying but I'll take
it and let's just switch so I can get my
attack back which does the Ember do less
than half okay I should get one karate
chop oh I'm faster oh nice we've got
this and Mankey lives fantastic okay
started rough but we were fine Abra is
great I believe I used one for a good
chunk of time when I did this in Emerald
several years ago cuz right now of
course it only knows teleport but it
learns confusion when it evolves a good
solid psychic attack and I caught it
first try let's go my first evolution
this makes Vine whip better okay
actually I looked it up and I had an
alexam on my team when I beat the
freaking Pokémon League so clearly it's
good okay that didn't take too long I am
Confucian all right it's time for Misty
maybe I could have grinded my team more
before this fight but I didn't feel like
it I don't care about that that was a
wonderful wasted turn but of course the
star me is always way more threatening
oh my God amazing Leach seed oh Swift
does a lot Vine whip does a good chunk
but not all of it however if I can live
this next
Swift or she might potion but if she
doesn't if I live this Swift I think I
win okay and I live it it's over okay
this is going smoothly harshly because I
am using the best starter for K selling
TMS selling TMS it feels really weird
but I'm selling TMS Vermilion City so
the next gym is Lieutenant surge but it
also gives me access to diglett's Cave
now if I can find a Diglett that's at
least level 17 it will know dig all of
them know magnitude but having the
reliability of dig would be great and
look at that first one although if I
could just find a wild Doug Trio that'd
be better okay but I do have a Diglett
oh might just sweep my team
though this is going badly this is my
third to
last let's go oh my God level 29
eradicate good to see you oh my gosh I
just learned cbeam okay I got confused
because Kinesis is a zero level move and
I just like saw that in the list and
thought that was going to be one of its
moves but instead it gets sbeam which is
stronger than confusion it literally
cannot harm dark types but that doesn't
matter there aren't any in this region
my radicate just got burned in this
battle against this random trainer and I
kind of think I'm not going to heal it
before I fight my rival cuz my rat is
gutsy hello subscrib really wish the
character limit was a little higher I
remembered to have Pikachu lead this
time okay to hit ko. there's that static
man what are the chances for that that
should deal with Pidgeotto it's time for
a rat battle Cuts boosted hyper Fang
delicious I'm not even going to change I
see no reason to this one I need the
quick attack but it's a freaking cadabra
now do I quick attack to guarantee I go
first or do I go for hyper Fay I think
I'm going new hyper Fang I am faster and
it hits okay this is definitely a one
shot it's not what I'm enraged well
overall I still kicked his butt so and
now I'm rubbing an old man's back and
now the first hm designated Pokémon very
annoying that I have to have that in my
party to get into a gym but I can't
complain that much I have a level 29
duck Trio this Lieutenant surge battle
should be so easy I should just need to
dig three times that's one okay maybe
maybe I'm not going to dig three times
I'm worried about static so I'm just
going to muds slap this one huzzah and
the Raichu oh God just hit it just hit
it duck Trio don't make this hard for me
let's go all righty man I didn't realize
you could get a super overlevel Doug
Trio like that early that makes this gym
easy mode here we go you're probably
eventually getting replaced with a mod
champ but for now this is helpful
seladon City I can get free Eevee right
I don't know if it's good though cuz if
it knows four moves already it's garbage
it does already know for moves yep that
is uh super useless well oddly enough I
might be going into the grass type gym
with nothing that's good against Grass
for like the first time ever he this gym
is greatest full of women these were the
golden days of Pokémon nowadays it's
censored with this gym is great as full
of strong trainers lame all right let
there be women time for the fourth gym
battle I uh handily swept all of the gym
trainers with Kadabra so now it's over
level 30 I'm not anticipating this being
that hard step one's done I mean this is
just proving how good psychic types are
especially Alakazam in the Kanto region
there's no dark types and like almost
every grass type is also poison type
this might do it oh it was close all
right missed the stun sport which would
have paralyzed it cuz I have
synchronized and that'll do it for gyms
no new moves and I'm feeling good all
right let's do the rocket Hideout was I
supposed to fight blue in the Pokémon
Tower okay I was able to come down here
ibody tell grunty boy that I was in here
hello Giovani I am here to defeat you
using an Ivysaur that still knows Vine
whip which is so amazingly terrible it's
only 30 5 power and only has 10 PP
ridiculous I do need a water type I am
not sure what the best one is my options
go way up once I can surf do I think
you're heavy enough for low kick I don't
think you are nice to hit ko. ouchie o
all right please KO here cool thank you
here's that Rival Battle I forgot to
do hello subscribe don't forget you know
I got to say waiting to do this until
after you do all the Celadon stuff makes
it significantly easier like this
thing's level 25 like just upon arrival
here can that KO hit no okay I have a
plan for Pikachu the more time goes
along the uh the worse it gets but I
have a plan and right now that plan is
stay in on a Gyarados and I missed
because of sand attack brilliant oh but
wait a second disable it missed disable
can miss disable what I should have just
attacked it I I'm an idiot I'm 12 levels
higher what am I doing oh crap I thought
that would one shot all right I got
lucky there what is disables accuracy
clearly not 100% which means it's 50% oh
my God it's only 55% accurate in gen 1
through 3 I made the joke that it had to
be 50% and it actually almost is that
sucks I'm never using that again Kadabra
is going to be a going to be a sbeam and
confusion machine and nothing else dig a
tunnel dig dig a tunnel this is only
going to work while it's still a
charmeleon did work though okay that got
stickier than I would have chosen beone
Intruders it's just a
mwak wow I remember playing this in the
car for the first time having never
played the original games and being like
what do you mean it's a ghost why won't
it let me fight it I'm enraged hello Mr
Fuji please provideth me the poke flute
to toot toot all right Snorlax get up I
definitely want to catch this thing it's
a pretty straightforward upgrade to
radicate
Fantastic all righty let's get Snorlax
on the squad oh my goodness and impish
nature is fantastic radicate thank you
for your work this far enjoy your rest
obviously this isn't the best move set
cuz like my only damaging move is
headbutt but yaong is amazing and then
rest snore Strat it's pretty fun well um
I did the thing where I changed
impossible evos and didn't know the
level that this was going to happen at
and it just
happened at 37 my second highest level
Pokemon is 31 all right Koga time I feel
pretty confident because Alakazam is
amazing like this is going to one shot
yep his wheezing is the scariest one do
I want to change for Muk it's got good
special defense actually I'm going to
try swapping here this thing can
minimize so let's get some chip going
acid armor is that defense or special
defense ooh well don't love that dig
does so little all right let's go back
to Alakazam physical attack was maybe
better until that happened dang it I was
hoping that would miss Jesus oh that
sucks well I might have misplayed uh
around the muck well I know I can kill
the coughing quickly now how do I handle
this wheezing I got one more sbeam in me
I think you know what yeah let's let's
swap here reset the poison counter I
could I think I can leech seed it I
maybe I should have leveled up before
this this is neutral though oh boy well
I hit the Lee seed all right Alakazam
how much can you do here
sbeam does ha victory is mine I was so
underleveled with every Pokemon except
Alakazam but now that I have that I can
surf outside of battle which means I
need to go get surf I made it please
take me to Waterland that was a weird
way of of saying that I caught a neino
I'm going to make it aido King for hm's
surf cut strength rock smash pretty nice
here we are in the power plant where I
will be catching not Zapdos now that may
surprise you considering Zapdos is one
of if not the best Pokemon you can use
on a playthrough team in a Kanto
playthrough however that doesn't apply
for this one Zapdos is move set when you
catch it in this game is drill peack
which is good but then thunderwave
detect and Agility that's no electric
type attacks however another Pokémon you
can find here in the power plant is
Pikachu and that matters because you can
find it at exactly level 26 which is the
level it learns Thunderbolt which is one
of the best moves available to me in
this Challenge and since I can't change
its move set so I don't care about any
moves it learns beyond that I can
immediately Thunderstone it and get a
thunderbolt Raichu there we go okay hey
now I just have to catch it aha success
check it out
Thunderbolt and with this newly acquired
Thunderstone there's my Thunderbolt
Raichu wait a second can I use strength
outside of battle I got to give this guy
his teeth I can you strength which means
I can go get Articuno cuz while Zapdos
doesn't have any good electric attacks
Articuno has ice beam and I know from
experience it is very helpful against
Lance I found you oh God I uh will admit
I forgot this thing was level 50 thought
it was like 45 one pathetic sub story
later what is wrong with you you chicken
from the freezer section should not be
giving me this much difficulty I know
you had a catch rate of three but like
come on oh thank you wow I just had to
insult it don't tell team Sky well this
is the first time that I can remember
that I've had a Pokemon level 30 and a
Pokémon level 50 on the same team I will
say though I think Ivysaur might be uh
might be past its usefulness so now that
I have the good rod and I'm about to get
surf in the super rod my water type
options are really opening up so I
decided to finally do some research
figure out what I want my water type to
be and I assembled a list of good
options that list number one is
Tentacruel number two doesn't exist some
of them are solid options but just I
can't obtain them with a good water type
move like Lapras doesn't know any at the
level you get it and freaking Golduck
freaking Golduck did you know that
Psyduck and Golduck in these games don't
learn a single water type attack until
hydropump in the ' 50s cler only gets
freaking clamp by level up and Dong Dong
has no water type moves in its level up
move set it has signal beam and not a
water type move and then other ones just
suck always in this generation like Sea
King and Kingler High physical attack
all water moves are special they're just
completely garbage until the physical
special split some of them are okay
options like sedra like I could get one
with water gun but like water gun's kind
of weak and also so is sedra that's why
they created KRA and then of course
Gyarados its special attack is only 60
in this gen and I can't get one that has
both hydr pump and thrash star me would
have been a pretty solid option pretty
fast good special attack can get one
with bubble beam which is 65 and it's a
freaking leaf green exclusive both slow
bro and sty are in Leaf Green why did
they put both water psychic types in one
game and why didn't I do a bit of
research before starting this so my best
option is Tentacruel if I get a tentac
or tentacule that's at least level 25 it
knows bubble beam which is 65 base power
best option I have it doesn't hit as
hard as I would like but it's decently
bulky you know it could be worse well