Joe Rogan RIPS Israel 'Genocide', Candace Owens Firing

Let's uh transition into uh what Mr

Rogan is thinking about this conflict

because you know to the point of whether

the views of these college students are

extreme or mainstream at this point when

you have a majority of Joe Biden voters

saying this is a genocide when you have

the international criminal uh court of

justice uh saying that's plausible when

you have a new UN report saying there's

reasonable grounds to believe and now

you can add oh you have Alex Jones

saying it's a genes I believe Candace

Owens has said similar things AOC has

now come out and said the same you can

add to that uh growing list of voices

Joe Rogan who made some very interesting

comments on his podcast let's take a

listen even in the right like look

what's going on with Candace Owens and

Ben

Shapiro like what did she say I want to

know what was what she was fired for CU

was it criticism of Israel was it I mean

did she show that Edward Snowden video

that he put up on Twitter that shows

them maybe drone bombing those kids that

are those men I should say unarmed

people that were walking toward W the

rubble that clearly weren't causing any

danger to anybody just bomb them yeah no

it's your duty it's just like for Biden

or whoever you like you're supposed to

cover up for them because the whole

thing is like they're always saying

they're only targeting Hamas and

everybody else is a casualty well if

those guys are just unarmed civilians

and they're walking alone that's what

they appear to be dresen and you just

blast them from the sky with robots this

is the tragedy of War yeah this is

insane and no no one knows what to think

now because if you can't talk about that

if you can't say that's real then you're

saying that genocide is okay as long as

we're doing it and that is what we're

saying and if you're saying that from a

perspective of someone who literally

went through the Holocaust or your your

people your tribe went through the

[ __ ] Holocaust and now you're willing

to do it I hope the irony is not lost on

you it's so nuts it's so hard to imagine

that someone where a c a culture like a

country was like officially founded in

what 47 48 48 okay officially founded so

that's so

recent and you and you guys are willing

to do what was done to you that led you

to believe that you needed to start your

own country you're willing to do that at

least in a small scale in Gaza like

there's nothing left if you see the

videos let's let's see some recent

footage of Gaza so some really pointed

uh the Atlantic would say those comments

extremist um GRE Greg Abbott would say

anti-semitic there you go many and

apparently Matt Miller would as well

talk about that also in my uh in my

monologue but I mean he really he really

goes in apparently that video that aler

obtained the Drone footage of them

striking and killing these four unarmed

civilians who were just walking along in

conun I mean it's it's horrible to watch

we played just a little bit of it um but

if you do watch the whole thing you know

you see the initial drone strike you see

one of them at least like

crawling after being hit initially

wounded and then hit again and all of

them killed and you know you can't but

Hamas that you can't oh human shield

that it's just so naked and I think one

of the things that people have reacted

to so strongly because I've been

wrapping trying to wrap my head Emily

around why this video this seems to have

been the thing for Alex Jones that's

what he quote tweeted it seems to have

been you know the thing for for Joe

Rogan and just judging by the the tenor

of the commentary and the Shi you know

AOC then comes out shortly thereafter

also caus it a genocide I've been trying

to wrap my head around what it was about

this video because we've seen so many

Horrors play out in front of our eyes

and I think it's the fact that all the

typical justifications are null you

can't like I said you can't but Hamas it

you can't there's a tunnel there you

can't um you know it's anti-semitic to

say this all the normal justifications

are they're not human Shields are kind

of null and void and then there

something so nightmarish and terrifying

um Alex Jones called a robotic Mass

genocide I believe about the fact that

they're walking along totally unawares

and then out of the sky boom it's over

and also the the David and Goliath

nature of that I mean they're unarmed

they have nothing right and everything

around them in the video too is complete

Rubble as as Rogan is saying right there

look at Goda there's nothing left um his

guest there says it's like Dresden

they're completely unarm armed they're

completely vulnerable and meanwhile

Israel has this you know incredibly

Hightech killing technology and that's

what they're up against and there's

something about that video that marked a

real turning point for the way a lot of

people were viewing this conflict so Al

Jones apparently has also been calling

Rabbi schie the butt plug Rabbi they had

a

debate he did yes he did okay good uh

interesting enough well the Rogan clip

to me is is fascinating because he he

goes back and says listen this is really

recent history like the Holocaust is is

really recent history in the living

memory of many people and the founding

of modern Israel comes in uh 1948 and

what also happens there is and R I

talked about this a little bit yesterday

but the uh the the new definitions or

the formal uh International agreement on

what the definition of genocide is

because basically the UN comes together

after World War II and says we need to

prevent you know Dresden we need to

prevent the Holocaust we need to you

know all of that and that living memory

is also why uh you know you see

Netanyahu and other leaders in Israel

and even by the way some

well-intentioned

liberal Israelis um feel the need to

turn Gaza into a quote parking lot

because those threats remain you know so

ingrained in the minds and that's what

is reacting to it and saying it's

strange it's a it's a strange like

dissonance between you know saying we

want to prevent another Holocaust and

then seeing uh the the destruction of

Gaza and calling for the destruction of

Gaza calling for it in the name of

stopping another Holocaust to be turned

into a parking lot and I understand you

know why that's why that hits home with

people like Joe Rogan I completely

understand the perspective of uh being

grossed out by the Drone attacks and

sort of like it it is this is a

different kind like since we have since

World War II this is a a new kind of

conflict um and and I don't think the

netanyahu's and the Joe bidens of the

world were prepared for how the public

was going to react to it it's similar to

other conflicts like high like Urban

Warfare um but Syria other places but

it's it's different uh it's it's

completely different and I think they

underestimated where the public would be

uh when watching this because I mean

yeah it's it's just these videos are are

tough yeah um you know it is sort of um

there are quotes from the the early

Zionist and I think it's very much

Illustrated in not just the Israeli

response here but in you know Wars since

their founding basically this notion of

because of the horrors that they were

subjected to and this idea that they're

quote unquote in a tough neighborhood

part of why they go in with

such overwhelming you know force and

commit these Horrors and war crimes and

you know totally annihilate all of Gaza

is this idea of oh we have to

demonstrate that actually we're the

biggest [ __ ] that we are just as

tough tougher and batter than anyone

else and they'll they talk openly about

you know restoring deterrence and that's

code for basically what I said we need

to put on display that we can be the

brutal barbarians just as much as anyone

else and so you know it is a deep horror

and deep irony that the the people who

you know suffered through the Holocaust

and you know the state that is founded

out of you know the ashes of World War

II and the Holocaust that then would

turn around and repeat some of the same

ideology some of you know Jo Rogan calls

it like on a small scale and obviously

the death count isn't approaching and

what the Holocaust is but it is there is

a similar like uh Quest towards

Annihilation there is a similar uh I

mean there's a Jewish supremacist

ideology here so I think his comments

are entirely appropriate in another way

it's not it shouldn't be surprising

because you see this on a human level

too people who were victims of abuse and

then they turn around and become the

abusers I mean that is a common pattern

that plays out psychologically right in

uh in human life so obviously you know

know for for Rogan who's kind of like

you know litus test from Normie opinion

you know is not a particular idog in any

direction to have come to this

conclusion and again like that it was

this video that seems to have led him

there I just I found that very

interesting very know worthy and

obviously he's very influential very

impactful so in and of itself it matters

a lot but I was going to say just

another kind of wakeup call probably for

Biden n Yahoo and you people like Ted

Cruz who sat and respectfully talked to

us about this would be that Joe Rogan

also isn't going to deny that Hamas and

uh like actual Islamic extremism isn't

genocidal towards Jews it of course is

and he's not going to he's he's not the

kind of person that's going to like make

the Judith Butler argument about Hamas

being a resistance organ a part of the

global resistance whatever he's not that

kind of person he's he's nor like you

said CHR he's has Normy opinion on all

of this uh and so that's where this

becomes uh and even I'm going to mention

this Chris rufo reacted to I I made a

little joke about Greg Abbott earlier in

this segment that's because Greg Abbott

instructed universities in Texas to

update their speech policies to ban

anti-semitic speech and Chris rufo uh

obviously a conservative obviously

pro-israel and other kind of

conservatives on the new right like

Sager and people like myself uh who have

objected to the new speech policing

since October 7th and on the grounds

that it's it's sort of hypocritical from

people like both wrong and hypocritical

from people like Greg Abbott Chris ruo

reacted and said what's the difference

between you know this and banning quote

anti-black speech or anti-white speech

um it's it's not how we do things in

this country and that has been again

wildly underestimated by people like

Greg Abbott who probably had no idea or

had no nobody in his circles was like

you're going to you're going to upset

people uh like a Chris rufo um or like

others in those circles that take issue

with this they just they don't have

awareness that it really wrangles people

because it's a bubble yeah that it is a

bubble all the way around and we have

some polling that shows you also the the

public shift that I think speaks to some

of the points that you're making here so

these are the overall numbers and you

can see the difference between November

2023 so we're talking about shortly

after October 7th versus now in November

a majority 50% of Americans approved of

Israeli military action in Gaza versus

45 % who disapprove so it's pretty

closely split but you got a majority in

favor now totally different only 36%

approve

55% disapprove it's interesting to me in

these polls um the no opinion number

actually goes up in all of these polls

I'm about to show you just kind of that

as the conflict has gone on there are

more people who are moving from that

approval to just like I don't know I

don't have an opinion I don't want to

talk about this anymore which you see

some in the discourse online where

people who were previously like staunch

Defenders have just kind of gone quiet

um I think we have additional polling we

can put up don't we guys that has the uh

the partisan breakdown here because the

way that Democrats have uh have moved

has been interesting so here we've got

an indication of how closely people have

been paying to the conflict and um what

their views are based on whether they

say they're following very closely or

not those who are following very closely

55% disapprove those who are following

somewhat closely 56% disapprove those

who are not following closely

54% um disapprove the numbers in terms

of approve are highest among those who

are following very closely so there's a

bit of an indication here it's not like

a huge shift depending on uh the biggest

difference you see is just the number of

people who are offering no opinion and

then put the next one up on the screen

guys the this is the the partisan

breakdown that I was mentioning so we'll

start with the Republicans relevant to

the Chris rufo and Texas discussion so

back in November 71% of Republicans say

yes I approve of this military action

only 23% say no I do not now both of

those numbers have shifted 64% say they

approve that's still a large number but

30% is a significant minority who now

say they disapprove yes um Independence

big movement here so it was split

basically 50/50 47 approved 48

disapproved now you only have 29% of

Independents who approve 60% disapprove

and and the Democratic numbers are just

overwhelming so you've always had a

majority of Democrats who disapproved

now that number has shot up to

75% and only

18% say that they approve and once again

you have an increase in the number who

are like no opinion count me out I don't

want to talk about this let's just move

on which I did find noteworthy given

that you would think that as the

conflict goes on more people form an

opinion but it actually has been the

opposite here I I read into that people

who previously were on the approved side

that are not like I don't know I'm just

going to say no opinion yeah I think

that's right um but this is a huge blind

spot this isn't the same the public is

not reacting to this in the same way

that the public has reacted to other

conflicts frankly in Gaza and in Israel

it's is just completely different this

time around and people were unprepared

for that yeah absolutely hey guys if you

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