Reacting to Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" & Drake's "The Heart Part 6" | Rap Life Review
Summary
TLDRThe video script is a dynamic discussion from the 'Rap Life Review' show, focusing on the rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. The panelists analyze the momentum, cultural impact, and strategic moves made by both artists throughout their lyrical feud. They delve into the importance of regional ties in hip-hop, the significance of facts and allegations within the context of rap battles, and the power dynamics at play. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of the feud, including the unification of the West Coast hip-hop scene by Kendrick and the potential missteps made by Drake in his responses. The panelists express their views on the current state of the battle, the cultural significance of the artists' actions, and the potential future outcomes for both rappers.
Takeaways
- ð€ The discussion revolves around the rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, focusing on the impact of their recent releases on the hip-hop community.
- ð Kendrick Lamar is perceived to have the momentum in the battle, with his releases being well-received and strategically dropping multiple tracks.
- ð¥ Drake's response to Kendrick's allegations, including the claim about pedophilia and other serious accusations, is a significant part of the discourse.
- ð€ The panelists question the importance of facts in the battle, debating whether substantiated claims or the impact of the allegations matters more.
- ð® There's an acknowledgement of Drake's missteps, particularly his line about freeing slaves, which was seen as tone-deaf and a significant error in the battle.
- ð The conversation highlights the regional aspects of hip-hop, with Kendrick's ties to Compton and the West Coast being a point of strength against Drake's more global appeal.
- ð The debate touches on the concept of 'crown' in hip-hop, where artists vie for the title of the greatest, and how this battle fits into the larger narrative of hip-hop hierarchy.
- ð¯ The strategic release of music and the thoughtfulness behind the lyrics are emphasized as key elements that future artists will need to consider to be considered among the greats.
- ðš There's a mention of the changing rules of engagement in rap battles, with Kendrick's approach setting a new precedent for the level of strategy and preparation.
- ð The global impact of the battle is discussed, noting that while the core hip-hop fans are deeply invested, the wider audience may have different perspectives on the significance of regional sounds and identities.
- ð Despite the intense competition, there's a consensus that Drake's commercial success and popularity will likely remain unaffected, even if he's perceived as losing the battle in the court of public opinion.
Q & A
What is the significance of the past tense used by the speaker in the transcript?
-The use of past tense by the speaker suggests that the fun exercise is over and implies a readiness to address more serious matters, possibly indicating a shift in the dynamic of the ongoing discussion or 'beef'.
Why is the panel discussion considered balanced in this context?
-The panel is considered balanced because it includes individuals from different regions of the United States, including the West Coast, East Coast, and a participant currently living on the West Coast, which provides a variety of perspectives on the situation involving Kendrick and Drake.
What is the importance of facts in the context of a rap battle?
-Facts in a rap battle can add credibility and impact to the lyrics. If an artist can substantiate their claims, their allegations carry more weight and can be seen as more effective in the battle.
Why does the speaker believe that Drake may have underestimated Kendrick's readiness for the battle?
-The speaker suggests that Drake may have thought Kendrick would take longer to respond, as it took Drake nearly a month to drop his first track. This could imply that Drake did not anticipate Kendrick's preparedness and the number of tracks he had ready to release.
What is the significance of the speaker's mention of 'heart part six'?
-The mention of 'heart part six' refers to Drake's recent release, which is a part of his discography. The speaker uses this to discuss Drake's strategy and the public's reaction to his music in the context of the ongoing rap battle.
How does the speaker view the role of regional identity in hip-hop?
-The speaker views regional identity as crucial in hip-hop, emphasizing the importance of an artist's connection to their home base and how that can influence their credibility and the perception of their music within the broader culture.
What is the speaker's opinion on Drake's use of the line about 'freeing the slaves'?
-The speaker believes that Drake's use of the line was a significant misstep, as it seems to suggest a lack of genuine connection to the issues and history it references, which can be seen as insensitive or inappropriate.
Why does the speaker believe that Drake's actions have unified the West Coast?
-The speaker suggests that Kendrick's actions in the rap battle, including his music releases and strategic moves, have resonated strongly with the West Coast community, creating a sense of unity and regional pride.
What does the speaker imply about the future of Drake's career after this rap battle?
-While acknowledging the current momentum and challenges Drake is facing, the speaker implies that Drake's popularity and ability to create chart-topping music will likely continue to secure his success, despite any potential backlash.
How does the speaker view the role of cultural authenticity in hip-hop?
-The speaker views cultural authenticity as a critical aspect of hip-hop, suggesting that artists who are not perceived as being authentic or in touch with their cultural roots may face criticism and challenges within the community.
What is the speaker's stance on the use of the n-word in hip-hop?
-The speaker acknowledges that the use of the n-word in hip-hop is a complex issue and that not all black people feel the same way about its use. They suggest that respect for individual preferences and understanding the cultural context is important.
Outlines
ð€ The Battle of Allegations and Facts in Rap Beefs
The panel discusses the importance of factual allegations in rap feuds, noting that while facts can add weight to claims, the veracity of allegations is not always the deciding factor in the public's perception of a rap battle. They emphasize the need to consider both the facts presented and the momentum each artist has in the ongoing feud between Kendrick and Drake.
ð Kendrick's Strategy and Drake's Missteps
The conversation delves into Kendrick's strategic approach to the rap battle, highlighting his readiness with multiple tracks and the impact of his regional ties to Compton and California. Drake's missteps are examined, including his perceived overconfidence and the strategic error of underestimating Kendrick's preparedness.
ðŽ Regionalism in Hip Hop and Its Impact on Battles
The panelists explore the significance of regionalism in hip hop, discussing how artists like Kendrick and Drake leverage their geographical and cultural identities in their music. They also touch on the idea that Drake may need to strengthen his connection with his hip hop base in Toronto.
ðš The Power of Strategy and Thoughtfulness in Rap
The discussion focuses on the strategic depth of Kendrick's moves in the rap battle, contrasting them with Drake's more straightforward approach. The panelists commend Kendrick's ability to create a unified response that resonates with his home region and addresses broader cultural issues.
ð¥ Drake's Resilience and the Changing Landscape of Rap Beefs
Despite the challenges Drake faces in the rap battle, the panelists acknowledge his resilience and the likelihood that he will continue to be successful, even if his current strategies are met with criticism. They also discuss the evolving nature of rap feuds and the high stakes for artists involved.
ð€ The Cultural Relevance and Learning Opportunities in Hip Hop
The conversation concludes with a reflection on the cultural significance of the rap battle between Kendrick and Drake. The panelists consider the learning opportunities presented by the feud and the importance of understanding the heritage and community roots of hip hop.
ð¶ The Future of Drake and the Legacy of This Rap Battle
The panelists speculate on the future impact of the rap battle on Drake's career and legacy. They discuss the short-term and long-term effects on public perception and the potential for Drake to recover and continue his success in the music industry.
ð The Morality and Impact of Hip Hop Feuds on Fans
The final discussion touches on the moral considerations fans must make when supporting artists involved in contentious rap battles. The panelists share their personal views on separating the art from the artist and the importance of individual judgment in consuming music.
Mindmap
Keywords
ð¡Rap Battle
ð¡Facts in Rap
ð¡Cultural Relevance
ð¡Regional Hip-Hop
ð¡Misstep
ð¡Identity in Hip-Hop
ð¡Beef
ð¡Hip-Hop Sound
ð¡Public Perception
ð¡Artist's Integrity
ð¡Social Media Influence
Highlights
Discussion of the significance of facts in the ongoing rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, emphasizing the importance of substantiated claims.
Analysis of Kendrick's strategy in the rap battle, including his use of serious allegations and the impact of his responses on public perception.
The panelists debate whether the momentum in the rap battle currently favors Kendrick Lamar, citing his recent releases and their reception.
Eddie, one of the panelists, argues that despite the allegations, the believability of the artists' claims is a key factor in the battle.
The conversation touches on the role of regionalism in hip-hop and how it affects the artists' credibility and the public's reception of their music.
A panelist suggests that Drake may have underestimated Kendrick's preparedness, leading to a strategic disadvantage.
The discussion includes an examination of Drake's lyrical missteps and how they may have impacted the public's view of his involvement in the rap battle.
The panelists consider the cultural significance of the rap battle, including its impact on the hip-hop community and the artists' representations of black culture.
A debate on the role of identity and authenticity in hip-hop, particularly in relation to Drake's cultural connections and representations.
The conversation explores the idea that Drake's approach to the rap battle may have been influenced by a desire to maintain his commercial success.
Panelists discuss the potential long-term effects of the rap battle on Drake's career and public image, despite his current commercial success.
An argument is made that Kendrick's rapid and strategic response to Drake's diss tracks have shifted the expectations and rules of engagement in hip-hop battles.
The panel reflects on the broader implications of the rap battle for the hip-hop genre, suggesting it may lead to a recalibration of what is considered great in hip-hop.
A discussion on the importance of understanding the cultural heritage and community aspects of hip-hop to fully appreciate the rap battle's nuances.
The panelists express their fatigue with the ongoing rap battle, yet acknowledge its significance and the desire for it to reach a conclusion.
Ebro, the host, summarizes the discussion and thanks the panelists for their insights, inviting the audience to engage with the content and share their thoughts.
Transcripts
no he quote said that was fun exercise
he used past tense that was fun he did
make it sound like I know you got
another 10 tracks to drop he made it
sound like he was getting ready to find
his ex and then the other part I'm too
good for this you know oh you wasn't you
wasn't too good for that when you drop
push-ups and you was out here whing out
you wasn't too good but now that old boy
came back whing you too good all right
just a question just a question though
that's not how this works okay it's a
lot giggling a lot laughing on the SEC
cuz we about to get into it on rap Life
review we got someone in La we're here
in New York we have uh uh two
individuals on this show I spent 25
years of my life on the west coast and
25 years of my life on the East Coast we
got two people that have only spent time
on the east coast and we got somebody
living on the west coast right now grew
up out there this is probably the most
balanced panel
discussing what's going on with Kendrick
and Drake wait a minute what does the
East Coast have to do with anything this
being
from Toronto that would have actually
been the
Bal New York not the same it's not the
same but we will get to why I said that
in a
second first I want to
establish I want to talk about the facts
that are in the songs okay right the
allegations because there's a lot of
them many of which none of us can
substantiate is that a important
measurement to whether or not someone is
doing a great job in this battle or not
and I'm going start with you Eddie
because I want kind of want to get
consensus on this do the facts matter in
this battle to a degree if you can come
with facts the facts stin more if we can
find out what you're saying is true
these allegations we're like oh he got
him is it the end all Beall not
necessarily because 30 years ago pox
said started off a song that's why yo
you fat mother and we still to this day
don't know if it's true but none of us
care cuz that's how hit him up started
and we just rocked with it the thing
about this battle is there there are
serious
allegations being thrown on the table
let's just let's let's start there when
we talk about facts you know Kendrick
has been doubling down on the pedophilia
allegations which is an internet claim
that right has been circulating for a
while Drake um has been doubling down on
Kendrick being you know an abuser an
abuser and Dave free being the
father with those particular nuggets
facts do matter so we have to figure out
like are you saying that just to to to
shake the table are you saying that
because you have receipts so but the
reason I wanted to establish this is
because I wanted us at least to try to
find some consensus today we don't know
where the battle's going right now where
we have this conversation uh the last
thing we got was Drake's installment
which is the hard part six and we'll
talk more about that in a second um but
either we're saying what we either have
to take the facts as we know them today
in the songs the allegations as they
matter or we're going to remove them and
say it doesn't matter whether they're
true or false who who made them the most
believable is what I'm trying to get to
okay right cuz we can't prove them today
while we're having this conversation
right they will either come out later on
right and people will be like o ah that
changes things or they won't so nesca do
you think facts matter today you know I
usually L some facts but I feel like in
this beef is definitely a great area
especially with Drake then coming out to
say that he allegedly planted the story
that Kendrick found and he ran with so
even if they are facts we don't know
who's manipulating them and so now it's
too confusing it's like you said we
can't substantiate we can't verify
anything so I feel like we got to take
everything at face value right right
right so we take everything at face
value which then takes us to I think the
piece of the discussion which is the
most important which is who has the
momentum right now and who has captured
the
cultures interest and emotion and and
and eyeballs in this and ear holes in
this moment they they they both they
both have like and and you know I give
Drake a lot of but he he's like we
were talking about earlier like he's
rapping like I'm I'm I'm surprised about
the output I'm surprised about the
timing I'm surprised about how fast he's
reacting to all this but when you
look at Kendrick Kendrick has stepped on
everything that he's
dropped right like when we got Family
Matters saying that's good you're saying
that's bad I'm saying I mean I'm he's
out winning and outsmarting Drake okay
so let's hold that thought it's it's no
question as Kendrick like if we're just
G to answer your question and not be all
political about it it's 100% Kendrick
because of partially because of what
Loki's saying every time Drake's had a
moment and don't get it twisted the
Drake songs up until the Heart part 6
have all been really good push-ups
push-ups oh my God fire but then what
happens Euphoria well Taylor May comes
out misstep and we'll talk about misstep
we to talk about that that was a misstep
we to talk about that misstep Euphoria
drops and it's like uh and then 616 and
they like uh Family Matters were
supposed to be his like knockout blow he
gave us a little video with it you're
like okay and honestly the GRS came
through and stepped on that this he bro
didn't even have an hour to sit on it
and
regardless regardless of the accus
ations were true or not in Meet the GRS
the reality is the conversation was
taken away from Drake and then the next
day to dropped not like us not only a
scathing D scaving disc record but also
a Club Banger now it doesn't even matter
what's true because people are in the
club screaming a minor oh V and and once
the jokes have turned and that's the
battle Drake is supposed to win Drake is
supposed to win the me he's supposed to
win the funny a little bit too confident
going into that right cuz when you drop
was it the tailor made freestyle you had
that
whole you better have the quadruple
Quint Kendrick like oh you want
octagonal on tandas got you exactly it's
like he took the Drake Playbook and is
trying to destroy him with it but I
wonder if Drake really didn't anticipate
that Kendrick had that many tracks ready
that's my question for him no he he
really thought he was going to like
spend a month cuz it was almost a month
he took too long I felt like to drop the
first one so he must have thought oh man
he's going to drop one and then I can
just kill him cuz it's going to take
weeks to drop another one I'm looking at
I'm looking at like Taylor Made threw
him off Taylor Made that misstep kind of
like gave him a stutter step right
because talking about Drake through yeah
yeah well because in Taylor in Taylor
mate not only did you play with
something sensitive which was in the AI
but you also begged
said it here you brought it on yourself
you got thirsty like yo where you at fam
where you at but I feel like that was
the right energy in that time because it
was a minute but you also weren't really
understanding your opponent you weren't
giving your opponent really the respect
that probably he deserved because the
what seems clear to me is the reason why
it took what 15 days for Kendrick to
respond he was doing all this was
because he was setting up a complete
dismantling of your
brand your personality your
personality your team your team and I'm
going say something that I don't think a
lot of people have discussed and this is
important one thing about hip hop is
it's regional yeah it geography is
important the map and the areas you own
when it comes time for somebody to take
your head off
is very important in this game it always
has been what's yours Jay-Z Brooklyn Nas
Queens Pac West Coast Biggie Brooklyn
like you think about all Meek Mill
Phillies mine like these are mine you
can't even with me in my town when
Kendrick
dropped they not like
us bro is basically saying he I'm from
Compton like I'm from this I don't even
make these type record mhm never even
made one of these
before B I'm going to own my zone
literally I'm going to provide my
backyard where I live where my family's
cousins where I went to school with a
soundtrack for this beef right here
defending my home I'm going to put a
flag down to defend my home turf and on
the same song I'm going to ridicule you
about co-opting Atlanta into your
that was was the most important part so
now you can't even go ask them for a
sound and by the way bro what is your
sound what is yours what do you own is
what Kendrick I feel is asking on this
song because this is what I own can I be
honest with you I feel like Drake's
biggest lyrical misstep in his whole
battle was the line about you always
acting like we're about to free the
slaves like knowing I feel like the one
thing irro says it all the time that you
feel like he's never stood for anything
the one thing we could get at Drake for
for as much music as he's given Black
Culture he's never stood on anything
like that for him to have the balls to
say that was crazy you walk straight
into that verse being called a colonizer
that was nuts to me that was his biggest
fumble in this whole thing the AI
the poac I know y'all were really
upset about it I wasn't that press
That's what I said this was the biggest
misstep he's made so far well that was
his firstep he had multiple missteps
I'll break them all down but I want to I
want to follow what Ebro was saying and
and making this Regional and I'm I'm in
LA and I never want to speak for La like
don't get it twisted I'm not an LA
native I live in LA and when I say I
live in LA I live in a mix I'm not g to
say where I live but I live in LA and
what I will say is for the first time in
a while and I've had conversations with
other La homegrown people he unified
this city of course like Kendrick people
are running bro it's like the Lakers W
another championship you hear it in
people's cars you see people doing it in
the clubs La ain't a been unified to
this degree in a long time so now
because to what was happening there was
a lot of conversations that that were
going on that seemed real anti laa like
real anti- California to a degree and
people took notice and the little little
thing that that he did also by not only
having mustard on the beat then now
Mustard's putting stamp on it like not
this is West Coast Vince Staples who has
some other comments now he's coming back
around like you know what no let's let's
get shake gilders and Alexander up out
of here he's taking the the rest in
peace Draco the ruler the Draco the
ruler the flow like somebody that was
really entrenching this La lifestyle you
know what I'm saying like this is like
this real California uni even a bar
where it was like your last show was
going to be in Oakland this became like
a California like people are putting
this on their chest and now Drake you
playing a dangerous game because like
you were saying yeah you have Toronto
Toronto's yours the the rest of the spot
I don't know bro and I'm going to be
honest with you and shout out to Toronto
you need La more than you need Toronto
fam perod listen I'm not going to get
you know I see what you're saying listen
I see what you're saying I I don't I
just want to say strategically when
you're playing
chess in this rap
if you don't have a home
base and by the way not even in a battle
this is for artists out there when when
you get really really really popular
Drake has a home base Toronto's his home
yeah Kendrick has a home base Compton's
his home California is his home he's got
a whole region that's his right future
everybody's got their thing and when you
get into a battle it becomes even more
important the thing that never really
got developed here by the great you know
Aubrey Drake Graham is what is Toronto's
hip hop
sound what is that qu because we know
New York has one and matter of fact
we've begged for a long time for Drake
to make yo why you ain't linked up with
Primo bro why you ain't Linked UP And
did like one of these like real rap
records like I mean we we know why no we
know why but now it's evident what's
missing in your back pocket in your tool
belt because if Drake had really made
sure he protected his hip-hop base and
his core which is why I established the
East Coast West Coast thing been if
Drake had been like yo the Northeast is
mine Toronto Detroit New York Philly and
I'm going to tap in with all of these
artists and make sure that this is my
zone he wouldn't have the problem that
he's presented with now that Kendrick
has dropped they not like us because
it's problematic they not like us it's
problematic for Drake which is why the
Heart part six sounds the way it does he
sounds like he has a problem that he
needs to fix he is basically on the
record like yo no wait time out he's
telling lies about me that's not fair
that's what's happening on the hard part
6 bro no I don't I I on the hard part 6
that's not I don't think he's waving the
White Flag I don't think he sounds
depressed or upset I think he's just
saying like until you're going to prove
something then but that applies to Drake
too no I I get it but that's what he's
he's implying that on that record so
he's not tapping out so so now we're
saying but he said quote he said he's
basically done or something no he quote
said that was fun exercise he used past
tense that was fun he did make it sound
like I know you got another 10 tracks to
drop he made it sound like he was
getting ready to find his and then the
other part I'm too good for this you
know oh you wasn't you wasn't too good
for that when you Dro push-ups and you
was out here whing out you wasn't too
good but now that old boy came back
whing you too good all right just a
question just a question though that's
not how this works yo just a question to
play Devil's
Advocate we know not like us is hitting
on the west
right but for a wider audience like they
don't give a I guess what like a
wider audience we're so to do that today
right right now today it's the number
it's the number one song in apple music
as of the theor was still number one
right now it's number one and Euphoria
is like number two right so yes people
can't it ain't just us streaming it I
didn't just say it's just the West Coast
that care I'm just saying to everybody
else globally who's tuning into like I
have people who have not never heard a
Drake and a Kendrick song and I get it
we're talking about core rap fans but
like you said excellent marketing for
hip hop and for the culture right
there's so many people tuning in I'm
just wondering although that's a big hit
and it unified the West Coast how that
plays out in the larger conversation
that's all I'm saying I'm not trying to
take anything away from it don't turn up
on no no no we're not doing that we're
just saying like we're just saying like
to to drop a regional specific sounding
record yeah it's something Drake just
can't do and you got
got hold on Eddie that is Kendrick's
indictment of Drake this whole time is
that you you don't have identity you
don't have a sound you don't have a you
don't have a home base you don't have a
region where you can collect a sound you
can cultivate a sound you can
collaborate with a sound and present it
to the world and furthermore you're
black and you're not even in touch with
what black people are really sensitive
about you don't stand for which is why
you brought up the slave or when I
talked about the PAC I was like yo
why you playing with Pac bro you not
you're not from that like I said to I
was like yo that that could be
problematic for you bro like don't play
with Pac like that now you playing with
the slave that was a lot oh and oh
by the way this went over a lot of
people head you got your white mom
opening up a record saying hey I would I
think you shouldn't use
the right after that what bro he's
because it it goes into there's so many
missteps in this we already talked about
the AI thing and we keep saying AI like
there wasn't an AI Snoop as well so
that's weird yeah period yeah yeah there
there's a slave line which is weird and
then also too don't forget in 2020 all
right was literally the protest song
like Kendrick had the protest song of
2020 so of like knocked that by saying
you're making slave music then you go in
um he had the line we talked about uh
you probably hate pedophiles because you
were molested or whatever the line was
and mother I'm sober but that's not even
what the song's about he's saying he
wasn't molested so you misconstrued that
and also so that was weird already on
its own like let's say that was true
that's a weird conversation then the
line if if I was young girls I
promis I'd be arrested that's Drake's
quote weird like that's weird and that's
not how the justice system works and
then
also weird the Millie Bobby Brown just
bringing her into it when no one said
her name like Drake has a lot of
missteps in all of this where you're
like bro what are you doing what are you
talking about there I I think
there's there's some good moments in
this from Drake but I think what's
happening is we're seeing that he's
never been a part of a of a of a an
opponent like this of course there is no
opponent like this yeah so like there
are a lot of things that he has to take
and stri there are a lot of things that
he has to like really try to calculate
and because Kendrick is moving at his
own pace but faster Drake is just like
kind of fumbling everything he changed
the rules I want to and and and the
other thing I think is important to
establish here
reestablish Drake dropped fire in this
that's not the discussion nobody and I I
want to make acting as if Drake didn't
drop that is not the discussion that man
has I'm trying to go a level deeper into
the actual game that's being play right
and the other thing I think is important
for all of us that love this hip-hop
when in your lifetime of social
media have you seen
individuals trying to decipher rap Clues
and
lyrics I we've we've never seen this not
like this not on this level that that is
a different metric that because of
Kendrick and you for bro 616 at La
dropped and people was like yo he's
talking about Corinthians in the
Bible this OJ trial started all well
let's not act like that was not like
those are coincidences no no no but
that's the point is because he's the I
don't know what he called people call
him the Boogey Man yeah yeah he had
people going levels to try to figure out
what he was talking about like that in
itself is remarkable and and and and yes
it is inspired by Drake like we have to
thank Drake we have to thank Drake and
what he represents that inspired this
moment for us to even have this
recalibration hip-hop like this is a
full reset yeah if you
rap and think you want to be one of the
greatest you better you have to study
this moment yeah because you can't just
be like a a swag rapper and be throwing
around like you one of the
greatest you you will have had to be
measured against this and this level of
rhyming and and strategy and
thoughtfulness to even ever in your life
be mentioned in this conversation it's
like if if if this moment presents
itself to you can you do this or higher
can you get can you no we're just like
he's talking about like just like how
what hip-hop looks like right now and
how artist can you do this like in 48
hours can you give me four or five high
tracks but that's not even that but can
you give me this level of thoughtfulness
even if people would say oh the picture
was planted or the 11-year-old daughter
was pled fine but the fact that someone
said you know what I'm going to unveil
this picture in a series of moments not
only that I'm going to introduce said
11year old to her grandmother and
grandfather in the rest of the world via
a letter Allah Stan from Eminem Like
that's what this beef did it changed the
Rules of Engagement with rat beef
usually what we had was and it changed
the rules of expectation of what a great
is so what usually we have you have song
then a song comes song then a song comes
the thing that Drake wins this in any
other situation like what Drake was
dropping was was heaters and to be
perfectly honest I don't know if meet
the grams was better than family matters
it was the moment it was the moment it
wasn't that's what I'm saying like it it
took all the power away from this song
because we were like wait a minute 20
minutes later he has this whole another
song wa what's going
on I I I I do think mether grams is
better than family matter let me recant
that let me
me let me hang on I'm not done but go
ahead I'm not done you f out finish what
you doing but what I compare this to is
like so with the Rules of Engagement
rules of War like a long long time ago
at some point like people like in
ancient Africa and the metaphor is
better than actual facts but this
actually happened they used to have like
Wars by dancing and stuff right like
they would come to war like all right
dance and they would have a dance off
basically well at some point someone
says Nah this ain't no dance off no more
we are killing people to win Wars and
that's what Kendrick implemented it was
like what what we're supposed to go song
for song this is how this is engaged and
kri was like no I have a I have a a
whole Army of songs ready for you and
not only do I have an army songs ready
I'm going to change it because don't get
it twisted not like us was a direct
reply to Family Matters he was he said
Family Matters in the song so you're
like wait a minute you just made a song
in a day basically to come back at me
we've never seen this before on this
level well I think to to to add to that
too um and I think this is important it
also establishes that one of these
individuals cares more deeply which is
why he has disdain for the other the
reason Kendrick doesn't like Drake is
beyond just I don't like you as a person
which he he said that too plenty of
times he doesn't like what Drake
represents in Hip
Hop he doesn't like that this individual
basically is not auth
doesn't represent anything of value to
Black Heritage and Black Culture isn't
in touch with his Blackness enough and
that is a lot he spent he spent a lot of
time on that and I think that that is
also an important detail because hip hop
as we know it today while yes it is
about having a good time and and
enjoying all this hip hop is an
extension of the black nationalist
movement make no question about it it
was it is a tool to share information
and educate ourselves when the
establishment doesn't do so and also to
make sure that we are represented
towards each other and for each other
like that's a part of what the hip-hop
thing is and the basis of it and while
it's gone much more mainstream than that
and it's it's become other things and
offshoots and what tangents Etc Kendrick
is rooted in that in 2024 MH that's a
powerful statement that I don't think
your your your mainstream pop hip hop
fan will give a or your hookah
smoking Club you know ass clapping IG th
gives a about but it's important to
someone like myself because hip-hop this
hip-hop saved a lot of our lives
and actually taught us a lot of not
only about ourselves but about social
dynamics uh um the the country and where
we come from go ahead Ed so I'm G flip
this a little bit because I think this
is an important conversation and I
wholeheartedly agree with everything
you're saying and then every now and
then someone will come up online and be
like well what's the difference between
and J Cole and both having um mixed
Heritage both being biracial ebo you are
someone that is biracial as well there's
no such thing as biracial that's a
different conversation for a different
day I know people throw that word around
but racial is a race is a social
construct based on your appearance so
you can't have two appearances bro you
have one
appearance okay so you're mixed can I
say that word you could be multiethnic
Multicultural you could be mixed all of
those things apply okay so you being a
mixed person what's explain to people
from your perspective the difference in
between how Drake does it in this
hip-hop space as opposed to somebody
like yourself or Jay Cole just explain
that to people so they don't come in
here conversation is not well I think
you're in this hip hop space but he
don't rap no I don't rap but I think
what he's asking is you know j. Cole
spends his time doing commentary about
society and about his community and the
places he comes
from the black Heritage part of hip-hop
and so J.Cole is in touch with that and
understands the importance of that
one of the the issues that I think even
the the OVO team has had was the
Childish Gambino thing when I was up
here talking about yo bro don't on
uh this is America bro like I don't like
that cuz you don't ever have anything to
say right which is once again the
indictment of Kendrick Kendrick is not
saying Drake is not black Kendrick is
saying you only act black when it's time
for you to use Blackness to make money
when it comes to any other black issues
or black anything we don't see you
that's all he's saying he's not saying
Drake ain't black he's calling into
question the cultural elements of
Blackness not the racial elements of
Blackness and a lot of people don't
understand the difference yeah between
race and culture and ethnicity and
nationality you know what I'm saying and
so that's what that's the the that
Dynamic and that conversation that's the
scope that Kendrick is is looking
through when he when he looks at Dake
yes yeah which you know that whole and
it plays itself out even more and we'll
go back to it you playing with the slave
Cole would never play with no
like that not at all also arguing over
the use of the n-word is not something
that black people who know Blackness
argue about it's not something you argue
about if someone's like yo I don't want
to hear you say the n-word no more most
people go shut up or they go I
understand why that offends you like
okay cool I got it because that's a word
that not all black people people and if
you're not black you may not know this
not all black people like the N word bro
if you live in a certain household
you're not just using the nword in the
house it's not a thing hip hop is some
Street thing and people use it as a
curse word just like they use
and all type other in
them records so not being in touch with
that and feeling like oh I'mma put my
white mom at the beginning of the record
saying hey son you probably shouldn't
put use whatever she says and the first
word out of his mouth is bro why are you
doing that and why do you think that's
something to play with it's
not and I ain't really with you
either cuz I didn't want to go here
today I wanted to focus on the records
and the
strategy this is part of the
conversation it's part of the
conversation but godamn like why did it
turn into this like I get it it's a
there there are conversations that have
to be had just like e was saying like
through Hip Hop in the culture
understanding like where this comes from
I get it but it's deviating it deviates
from just the battle just the battle
like these are two great conversations
to have but it is to what the reason
Eddie's bringing it up because it is a
learning opportunity for individuals who
love hiph hop yep and think that they
really know what this is because
they listen to it but they aren't it but
you're not in the community or from the
community from which this evolved from
so there's tenant
and and Heritage that you might not
quite understand or think you can
disregard for your own convenience
because no I'm A hip-hop fan I've been
listening to rap my whole life it's a
little different it's a little deeper
than that it's way different than that
you know what I'm saying and so I think
that that Drake has got himself into
that little uh scenario and maybe you
know it's it's a learning opportunity
for him even maybe hopefully maybe we
see some of his future records he can
admit that he learned isn't learning
from any of
this he's just getting pettier and
pettier he's not too much
credit this man Cole came out was like
yo forgive me you know what I'm saying
father I have sinned I don't this is not
who I want to be maybe we see a drake
verse one day where he's like listen I
wasn't and thank you kendri for no
that's s just like this man is not here
to learn a dam listen when When the
Smoke Clears Drake is going to be okay
kendri
be fine now and what now now I'm glad
you guys went here now hang on hang on
now all right hang on are we about to
take scores NOP no not yet can Drake put
out a record with an artist from Atlanta
and people ain't gonna look at it funny
I think I think whatever move he makes
people will look at it funny but in
the no Dr on can Drake yes jump on yes
the newest hottest artist coming out of
wherever just jump on it yes and every
nobody's going to look at it funny
listen a couple people are going to look
at it funny but guess what it's probably
still going to go to number one cuz as I
was trying to point out there's so many
people tuned into this who are Drake
fans who do not give a about the
like but see but see this chart position
ain't that's not what's the question you
said are people going to look at it
funny I said yes some people will but
it's not going to really stop him being
successful that's the thing you know
where his zone is Drake zone is on the
charts well that's his Zone and there's
people that
that was just the case y'all he wouldn't
or wouldn't as often make Street records
just for the streets right he does that
because the streets in this hip-hop
means something the streets and the
community the where this stuff comes
from the language you're using the slang
you're using the the the the the the I
don't know the affiliations to to
individuals who live a you know a a life
style that is nefarious those
affiliations they mean something to your
credibility and what I'm saying is I
believe that Drake has to think more
carefully about making those moves now
because it's been exposed that's but at
the end but at the end of the day
there's a sector in the world there's a
sector in his head that knows that
whatever I do moving forward will still
be accepted even if I lose even if I
back out even if I get ter even if I get
everything happens to me I get
dismantled by this by by Kendrick he
knows moving forward I can go to Atlanta
and and pick up this the new street art
whatever the case is I can go anywhere
in this country and find another new
artist and jump on that record and then
go to number
one this is not going to this is not
going to bother his movement did you
guys notice recently up next artist for
bats shout out to for bats up next
artist has a remix with Drake yeah right
he put out his ep the Drake version's
not on the EP at some point there's
people are going to be asking questions
why did Drake jump on a song an R&B song
that was bubbling and maybe it was some
behind the scenes paperwork who knows
what it was but once again Drake went
and tried to and from what I understand
four bats he's from Dallas he's from the
bottom he's trying to figure out how and
Drake went and embraced him and took his
song to higher Heights why is it not on
the EP that that I don't know you answer
your own question could behind the
scenes it could be you know say
looks funny in the light here here's why
Drake always is going to be all right
if hip hop is about as capitalistic is
is imaginable Right Drake yes to stay
relevant as you become an older artist a
lot of they all do this like Jay-Z was
hopping on remixes when jezy when was
young like this this is not nothing new
uh Drake has mastered it in his current
climate of hip-hop but the young artist
is always going to be a mutually
beneficial thing so if you're a
20-year-old from you know Alabama
somewhere and Drake says this is
charting is bubbling and he wants to do
a remix with you there's not one young
artist imaginable that's not going to
get that that Drake battery pack and be
like hell yeah I'm about to be rich off
this Drake list listen I hope I hope
you're right and I think you're right
but the way Metro booming and these kids
is making this BBL Drizzy thing fun on
the internet oh my God that is
hilarious shout out to Metro for that
again become when did it when it shifts
to become
cool to make fun of a rapper it's always
been cool to make always been cool like
it just didn't start with it just didn't
start with him has it we made fun of J
Ru we with his career though is what I'm
asking the catet end up getting made fun
of publicly and it becomes a reoccurring
theme as not necessarily good for where
your brand is it's not great for the
brand but I feel like Drake's been
dealing with that for a long time call
to make you know what I mean like he's
been made fun of for so long it's a bit
Amplified now but I still don't think
that's going to take him down I I don't
think he's taking down I'm not saying
that not taking anything away people got
selective memory too that shortterm
short shortterm memory right so I
guarantee you when it's May 6
2025 this moment will be remembered but
it's not like
yo what happened to Drake or we forgot
about Drake No like he'll probably have
another album out probably be on tour
probably have a big single and it's just
like all right this is a great time in
hip-hop history because we're seeing two
gigantic different artists compete at a
very high level that we've never
ever ever seen ever so we have to really
really appreciate both of them despite
Drake's approach despite whatever is
true or if it's false or whatever the
case is this has not been done in this
short of time and we're not even done
yet no we're not done be not done yet
I'd be kind of happy if we was done at
this
point I'm tired I'm tired to I'm okay
with it I'm with you I'm okay with it
being over I just don't think it is yeah
yeah like I wouldn't I wouldn't mind if
they said all right we're done yeah cuz
we got it everything I wanted I got it
it it was the movie I needed it was The
Avengers ingame it was Kong versus uh uh
goz Godzilla it was Jord versus magic it
was like it was all of that it was all
that I'm appreciative but now it's like
I'm I'm I'm done with the alert it was
really Jordan Jordan was Jordan versus
everybody if you think back to
it Larry
vers Phoenix Seattle Utah all that all
of them Detroit damn Nicks so wait
Jordan had it with everybody so is is
Drake Jordan it's should be a part of
the conversation absolutely generation
of this generation for sure he was Drake
the reason this is happening is because
Drake took the the
ball and controlled it and controlled
the game and cats was like you're a
piece of I don't with you no
more and now I'mma take you out cuz I
thought we could move together whatever
together now we can't so then you had
everybody coming at him and Kendrick
been had a problem with him
since they again this is like this is to
your earlier Point like if you not if
you don't study this and you don't
understand this and you don't
really know why they're going at it then
sit this out because these have
been going for 10 to 12 years at each
other directly at each other and if you
know their cataloges and if you know how
they are you know where they're shooting
at each other well and even even on a
larger scope than that just removing it
from these two
individuals Nas came in with ill mtic
was on fire one of the greatest hip-hop
albums ever made on your first joint
MH was claiming the crown the crown
holder you had big come and go resting
peace hve other people start going at
NAS when it was hov's time to have the
crown cats was going at
ho when it was 50 well when it was
John's time you had 50 there's always in
this game the counterpart there someone
who's going to test like this this is
not nothing new no one's bullying Drake
No One Is they're not trying to like a
20 verse one oh no they're bullying
Drake but the
difference so you know what you want to
say is people have been bullied before
yes okay that's what you want to say the
difference situation it's not the first
time somebody's been bul what you want
to say have y have y'all been wrestling
with any questions about morality in
this beef like with regard to yeah I
like to have high standards for my
humans yeah right even the ones you it's
hard it's hard to keep I know I know it
is I know it is but more and more you
started taking all these quote unquote
facts at face value as of now right as
the layers get peeled
back I want to feel like damn I don't
with this person because he sounds
like an but I just have more and
more respect for Drake as this goes on
okay although I'm not picking sides in
this battle you know what I mean respect
because he continues to show up yeah for
like just the way Kendrick is
on him that he just keeps going like I
yeah yeah I'm still not picking any
sides I don't really care who wins this
but like I yeah
I yeah I I have the utmost respect for
Dr like the that he's you know
that's being you know accused and being
said to him yeah that would have took me
out that would have been like all right
you know what this is going too far this
man is showing up every time Kendrick
has something to say right and I don't
give a what y'all say about the
last one he don't sound defeated he just
says all right when you when you're when
you're when you're going to start saying
that actually matters I'll return
the favor well not matters that are
facts that are fact that are facts but
yes I do appreciate the facts don't
matter right now if if we're having
really having a question about morality
and music especially in hip-hop that
always gets murky so here's how I look
at it right I'm not going to chass
nobody into listening what they want to
listen to I have my own bar I have for
Morality there's some people I've
checked out on where I'm like oo it gets
weird with that person I can't listen to
this music the problem is with the Arts
if you start digging too deep and you
want your favorites to be good people
you're going to start having to Elm a
lot of folks so for me I just look at it
like a case bye basis I'm not going to
stop listening to either one of these
dudes I'm Len I'm listen to Kendrick
that's not even on the table what what
you do with your kids I don't really
care if you got kids I don't really care
if you got if you hiding kids I don't
really care like yeah yeah morality ARS
gets weird there's some there's some
people in hip-hop that I don't listen to
be because of morality but for the most
part Case by case ask how because K
present it in the song I forgot what the
track is about the new Trifecta not just
being Money Power Respect but he I think
he throws out like morality which got me
like thinking about it but anyway no
listen I think for well cuz he's Mr
morale you know what I'm saying so but I
I think um it's not funny stop I mean
not funny thus throw it out but um I I
do want to wrap
today uh and you guys I'm sure we'll be
leaving comments you know um there's
fans on both sides oh yeah they coming
Drake Bots wait
hey out time out time out time out you
can't just throw out Drake Bots as if
it's like a common term when the when
the song that Drake just released was
accusing Kendrick of paying bloggers and
things like that is that a
fact well he's saying Drake Bots like
it's some sort of yeah because like that
that's a thing like you see listen
bro you're saying that Drake is lying in
the song that he just put out we just
said we don't care
just not mad at so who
has who has the momentum of the moment
right now that's where we started I
don't know if we actually finished Eddie
you say no questions Kendrick it's not
even of to I think Kendrick has the
momentum but Drake is not out of this
yet en L Kendrick has momentum I would
agree that Kendrick has the momentum
Kendrick has
the% um and and I think thank you to
Drake is is is is
here because you have motivated someone
that we really wanted to have motivated
which is Kendrick Lamar but you also
motivated him in the wrong way it's not
what you want it's not what you want
however thank you for this we appreciate
it for this backfired on you
brother however we are getting uh great
records from Kendrick Lamar um and so uh
maybe by the time you see this there'll
be more music available we don't know
what the is going out here
but maybe maybe not it might be on dsps
it might not be you might be able to
stream it on Apple we don't know Eddie
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