Michael Cohen's Credibility Issues, and Decline of Public Schools, w/ Frei, Holloway, and DeAngelis
Summary
TLDRThe video transcript features a discussion on the trial of former President Donald Trump, focusing on the testimony of Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, and the handling of allegations involving Stormy Daniels. The speakers express skepticism about the credibility of Cohen and Daniels, suggesting a politically motivated prosecution. They also discuss the concept of school choice, highlighting the growing popularity due to dissatisfaction with public schools' handling of various social issues. The conversation touches on the influence of teacher unions and the importance of parental involvement in education. The host interviews Corey d'Angelus, author of 'The Parent Revolution,' who argues for the empowerment of parents in determining their children's education and criticizes the current state of public education.
Takeaways
- 📰 The media's coverage of the Donald Trump trial has been selective, with the Legacy Media Sunday morning news shows barely covering the trial as it was going well for Trump.
- 📈 Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, has credibility issues due to being a convicted felon, and his testimony as a star witness for the prosecution has been under scrutiny.
- 🐾 Megan Kelly shared a personal anecdote about her dog Thunder alerting her family to a potential danger involving her children by a pool, highlighting the loyalty and protective nature of the family pet.
- 🏛 The discussion suggests that there might be a politically motivated bias in the case against Trump, with the argument that the case would not have proceeded this far if the evidence were not being interpreted through a partisan lens.
- 💸 Questions were raised about the nature of the payments made by Trump to Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels, with the argument that hush money payments are not inherently illegal and the focus should be on whether they were made exclusively for campaign purposes.
- 🎓 Grand Canyon University was mentioned as a private Christian institution that offers various learning environments and a wide range of academic programs to help students achieve their goals.
- 🤔 There is skepticism about the validity of Stormy Daniels' claims and the credibility of her testimony, with some suggesting that there might have been a setup or extortion attempt.
- 📉 Concerns were expressed about the exploitation of mentally unwell individuals for political gain, and the potential for the judicial system to be weaponized for political purposes.
- 🚫 Trump is under a gag order, preventing him from publicly addressing or refuting the claims made by Daniels and Cohen, which some argue is a violation of his First Amendment rights.
- 🤝 The relationship between Trump and Cohen is described as fraught from the beginning, with Cohen allegedly serving as a 'fixer' in various capacities, raising questions about the ethical boundaries of their professional relationship.
Q & A
What was the main topic of discussion on the Megan Kelly show?
-The main topic of discussion was the trial of former president Donald Trump and the testimony of Michael Cohen, his former lawyer, as well as the broader implications for the justice system and political motivations behind the trial.
Why did the Legacy Media Sunday morning news shows barely cover the trial of Donald Trump?
-The hosts suggest that the Legacy Media barely covered the trial because it was going well for Donald Trump. They imply that if the testimony had been damaging to Trump, the media would have been extensively covering it.
What is Michael Cohen's role in the trial?
-Michael Cohen is serving as a star witness for the prosecution in the trial of Donald Trump. He is Trump's former fixer and lawyer and has been testifying about his past work for Trump, including negotiations and payments to various individuals.
What is the significance of the audio recording between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump?
-The audio recording is significant because it is being used as evidence in the trial. It captures a conversation about payments to Karen McDougall, which the prosecution is using to imply a pattern of behavior regarding hush money payments.
What is the argument regarding the credibility of Michael Cohen as a witness?
-The argument is that Michael Cohen, as a convicted felon with a history of lying, has significant credibility issues. His past actions and testimonies are being scrutinized for consistency and truthfulness, with some suggesting that his testimony may be biased or self-serving.
Why did the hosts express skepticism about Stormy Daniels' claims?
-The hosts express skepticism about Stormy Daniels' claims due to perceived inconsistencies in her story and the lack of corroborating evidence. They also question the credibility of her claims based on her profession and the nature of the alleged encounter.
What is the 'crime-fraud' exception mentioned in the context of attorney-client privilege?
-The 'crime-fraud' exception is a legal doctrine that states attorney-client privilege does not apply when the communication is for the purpose of committing a crime or fraud. The discussion suggests that this exception may be relevant to the case, but there is debate over whether it has been properly established.
Why did the hosts believe that the trial is politically motivated?
-The hosts believe the trial is politically motivated due to the location of the trial in New York, which is suggested to be unfavorable to Trump, and the selection of the jury. They also point to the involvement of individuals with known biases against Trump as evidence of political motivation.
What is the relevance of the gag order on Donald Trump?
-The gag order on Donald Trump is relevant because it prevents him from publicly addressing or refuting the claims made by witnesses like Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels. The hosts argue that this is unfair and limits Trump's ability to defend himself in the public eye.
What is the significance of the payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall?
-The payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall are significant because they form the basis of the prosecution's case against Trump. The payments are alleged to have been made to secure their silence about alleged affairs, and the prosecution argues that they were improperly documented as legal expenses.
Why is the discussion about school choice important in the context of the show?
-The discussion about school choice is important as it highlights another area where political and legal battles are impacting the lives of everyday Americans. It serves as an example of how broader societal issues intersect with the themes of fairness, justice, and political influence discussed in the trial context.
Outlines
📺 Introduction and Stormy Daniels Testimony Overview
Megan Kelly opens the show discussing her Mother's Day, a family incident involving her dog Thunder, and the minimal coverage of Donald Trump's trial by the Legacy Media. She suggests the trial is going well for Trump based on the lack of coverage. The conversation shifts to Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, and his testimony. The show features a discussion with legal experts Viva Fry and Phil Holloway on Cohen's credibility and his role as Trump's 'fixer.'
🤝 Trump and Cohen's Relationship Dynamics
The panelists discuss the nature of Trump's relationship with Cohen, suggesting it was always problematic. They explore the idea that Cohen's loyalty to Trump soured when he realized he would not be part of the White House administration. The conversation includes skepticism about the alleged affairs with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall, with some doubting the credibility of the women involved.
🚨 Bias and Testimony in Trump's Trial
The discussion focuses on the potential bias of Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels against Trump, questioning the validity of their testimonies. It is argued that if a witness has a built-in bias against a defendant, their testimony could be disregarded. The conversation also touches on the political climate in New York and concerns about the fairness of the trial.
🎓 Grand Canyon University Commercial
A commercial for Grand Canyon University (GCU) is presented, highlighting the institution's commitment to equal opportunity and its various learning environments designed to help students achieve their academic, personal, and professional goals. The advertisement promotes GCU's online, on-campus, and hybrid programs with over 330 academic offerings.
📚 Legal Analysis of Trump's Case
The conversation delves into the legal aspects of Trump's case, questioning the lack of corroborating evidence and the reliance on Cohen's testimony. The panelists express concerns about the fairness of the trial, the political bias of the jury, and the potential for Trump to be convicted regardless of the evidence presented. They also discuss the crime-fraud exception and attorney-client privilege.
🤔 Concerns Over Gag Order and Judicial Bias
The panelists express their concerns about the gag order preventing Trump from publicly addressing the allegations and the perceived bias of Judge Juan Merchan. They discuss the implications of the gag order on Trump's ability to defend himself and the potential impact on his political career, including the possibility of it affecting future debates.
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📈 Poll Results and Public Sentiment
The show concludes with a discussion of recent poll results indicating an erosion of support for President Biden, particularly among young and non-white voters. The implications of these polls for the upcoming elections are analyzed, with Trump leading in five battleground states. The conversation suggests that the legal actions against Trump may be backfiring and strengthening his position with his base.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Attorney-Client Privilege
💡Campaign Finance Law
💡Michael Cohen
💡Stormy Daniels
💡Hush Money
💡Partisan Bias
💡Legal Expenses
💡Fraud
💡Indictment
💡Public Indignation
💡School Choice
Highlights
Megan Kelly discusses the lack of coverage on the trial of former President Donald Trump, suggesting it's going well for him.
Introduction of Michael Cohen as a star witness with credibility issues due to being a convicted felon.
Analysis of the relationship between Trump and Cohen, with a comparison to a 'Greek tragedy'.
Viva highlights Cohen's role as a 'fixer' and the implications it had on New York real estate deals.
Discussion on whether the Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall allegations were credible and the impact on Trump's image.
Concerns raised about the political bias in the case against Trump, suggesting a predetermined outcome.
Phil Holloway's skepticism about the validity of the case against Trump, citing a lack of concrete evidence.
Megan Kelly's account of her dog Thunder's protective behavior towards her children.
Debate on whether Cohen's testimony is being unfairly weighted due to his previous loyalty to Trump.
Concerns about the gag order on Trump and its impact on his ability to defend himself publicly.
Analysis of the financial transactions related to the case, questioning the validity of the claims made by prosecutors.
Speculation on the potential consequences of the case on Trump's political future, including the possibility of a 2024 campaign.
Discussion on the role of the media in the case, including the coverage of Cohen's testimony and its potential bias.
Megan Kelly's criticism of the 'Legacy Media' for their selective coverage of the trial.
The impact of the trial on public perception, with a focus on how it could influence voters' decisions.
A look at the potential for the case to set legal precedents and its implications for the justice system.
Transcripts
hey everyone I'm Megan Kelly welcome to
the Megan Kelly show happy Monday I hope
you had a great Mother's Day I did not
post anything on X about it yesterday
because I was enjoying the family in
fact I only made one post yesterday and
it was on Instagram and it was about
thunder trying to save my children who
were not in any danger but she didn't
know that uh in the pool where a large
basketball hoop had fallen in and my
good girl Thunder barked and barked and
barked until we went out and took a look
everyone was fine but my sweet girl
didn't know that she was letting us know
strudwick just sat there did not bark
and then ruin Yardley soccer ball uh
okay so the Legacy Media Sunday morning
news shows barely covered the trial of
former president Donald Trump yesterday
and you know why because it's going well
for him trust me when I tell you that if
it if it were going poorly for him if
stormmy had been the nail in the coffin
of Donald Trump they would have been all
over it so the fact that they barely
touched it should tell you everything
you need to know about how the Stormy
Daniels testimony actually went down
last week we now turn to the prosecution
star witness and that is Mr Trump's
former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen
it's been a very interesting morning
he's a convicted felon himself he has
massive credibility issues to put it
mildly he's been on the stand all
morning and we will bring you the latest
we've been watching every single line of
testimony joining us today Viva fry he's
a lawyer and Rumble Creator and Phil
Holloway is a legal analyst and host of
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welcome back Viv Phil great to have you
thank you for having with you as always
Megan all right so I think it's
fascinating seeing this happen I mean to
me it's like a Greek tragedy you know
Michael Cohen gets picked by Donald
Trump to work for him when he's a young
lawyer in his 30s gets a good job a good
salary he's idolized Trump from his
perch growing up in Long Island you know
of course Trump was known by us all back
in the New York early days and um his
job is not exactly as lawyer and
counselor it's more as fixer where Trump
wants him to do certain things and he
does them and like he know he testified
one of the things he did for Trump was
to negotiate down certain fees Trump
owed or contracts TR Trump was obligated
to pay on and it occurred to me when I
was listening to this you know the
relationship was fraught from the
beginning right like I think there's a
reason Trump hired someone as sketchy as
Michael Cohen he was reportedly always
Desiring to have someone like Ro Roy
Cohen you know the famed lawyer who
would just he was famous for his strong
arm tactics and getting things done and
this was supposed to be his Roy com and
Cohen spent a lifetime trying to just
get Trump what he wanted as he put it I
just my job was to make him happy and I
don't know what sort of Corners were
bent or what happened but New York real
estate is Infamous for Corners being
bent and you know for oper operators
doing what they need to do in order to
get these buildings built and deals done
that's just the way it is not just Trump
by the way I know a lot of these guys so
of course Trump had this lap dog working
for him and the theory being posited by
the defense is once Cohen realized he
was not going anywhere near the White
House things started to go sour when he
realized that he was just going to be on
the outside as a surrogate and he was
not going to be holding my heart here
attorney general my God my God can you
imagine okay
Trump was like yeah no hard no no you're
not going to be attorney general but the
prosecution side Viva is it that's not
what turned things South what turned
things South is The Jig was up they'd
been working together with AMI to cover
up these women stories who were coming
forward Karen McDougall the playm of the
year in 98 Stormy Daniels with whom
Trump allegedly had this one night
stand and Cohen was working with AMI or
in the case of Stormy on his own paying
off these women to keep him quiet and
when the hit the fan Trump cut ties
let him twist in the wind and he went
down for it and now it's Trump's turn so
that's kind of how it shook out this
morning and the Greek tragedy winds up
you know and as in others with the
wannabe as aspiring son sticking the
knife in his dad turning on him he says
Trump turned first but in any event he's
up there testifying so far this morning
about how he loved Trump he Lo he was
happy he really loved his job if only if
only the dad had seen how wonderful he
was Viva perhaps we wouldn't be here
today he might have been a better
attorney general than merri Garland In
fairness but the competition's not very
high there a good point it's but it's
it's so wild we're listening to this in
real time right now and it's it's as
though look there are better call Sal
type attorneys and then there are Alan
dershwitz type attorneys and quite
clearly I mean I like better call Sol
and he seems like a nice guy but quite
clearly Michael Cohen was of that uh
pedigree of an attorney
and there was I'm now convinced by the
way had listening to all of this that
Michael Cohen and David pecker were in
on this quasi extortion scheme against
Donald Trump when you have Michael Cohen
basically the fixer and I forget who
said it last week yeah he was the fixer
because he broke everything he's a negot
h piix he's he's in you know negotiating
these deals on stories that they know
are false making work for himself so he
can bill for this even though they know
the stories are bunk it's like everybody
was having a dip at at at Donald Trump's
Pockets but the bottom line is even if
all of this is true there's no
underlying crime to any of this but the
more bottom line is that Michael Cohen
is a corrupt extortionist of his own in
my humble opinion I'm not talking like
in law but it certainly seemed that they
were all just making work for themselves
uh so they could dip into Trump's
pockets and all take a piece of the pie
As Trump is paying it out because it's
not worth his time to deal with any of
this so you don't believe that Trump had
a one night stand with jery Daniels or
had an affair with Karen
McDougall mcdo goon no stormmy Daniels
no from what I know from like I'm not
intimately involved with anybody in the
you know in the campaign look if for
someone who is a self-proclaimed uh
neurotic hypochondriac myself you're not
having unprotected sex with a with a a
porn star who is in the industry of
having unprotected sex because she's
allergic to latex condoms when you have
options that are better if that's your
proclivity in life so I don't believe it
for a second um and I believe that
Stormy Daniels is an extortionist who
was trying to get money out of trump as
Michael anavi Michael laady has now
seriously uh implied from his jail Cale
in New York you know what's crazy Phil
is I came into this trial completely
believing that Trump had had a one night
stand with stormy and an affair with
Karen McDougall and I still believe he
had an affair with Karen McDougall that
one got a little bit more detailed from
testimony I think it was today with
Cohen where it was it went on allegedly
for a long time for months of if not
years and Cohen confronted Trump with
the fact that she was shopping the story
around and his first response according
to Cohen was she's so beautiful so um
they definitely knew each other there
were pictures of them together and I I
don't I still believe it they didn't
call her and they're not calling her but
I no longer believe the stormy Daniel
story I I at least have very serious
doubts about it I would not find Beyond
A Reasonable Doubt not that they have to
but I would not find Beyond a reasonable
doubt that they had an affair she came
across as so not credible as we
discussed on that Friday night show I
just I can't I don't put any stock in
what This Woman's her new me too
remembrances um I now believe it could
have been a whole could have been a
setup she met him at the Tahoe thing
maybe she went to his apart or his hotel
room maybe she didn't but I can't
believe a word out of that woman's
mouth well considering the source uh
being Stormy Daniels and of course now
if my Cohen says it's true then I am uh
irredeemably confined to believe the
alternative that it did not happen if
Michael Cohen says the sky is blue I'm
going to doubt the the validity and the
truthfulness of that statement you know
Michael Cohen back to him you know we
talk about him being a fixer well it
sounds to me like he likes that moniker
way too much it seems to me that he's
embracing that I guess it goes to his
ego and pumps up his ego just a little
too much you know when you talk about
renegotiating contracts and you talk
about uh working down the the number on
uh the dollar amount that you owe people
on bills and things like that's actually
practicing law that's not necessarily
being a fixer but in Michael Cohen's
mind he gets more mileage on Tik Tok out
of being labeled the the fixer uh for
Donald Trump so when you talk about
whether the affair ever happened or any
of this other stuff by the way look at f
look first to the bias of the people
making the claim does Stormy Daniels
have a bias against Donald Trump most
assuredly so does Michael Cohen have a
bias most assuredly so and the fact that
they are leading this uh testimony or
perjury whatever it is with evidence
that makes the case for him being biased
against Donald Trump I think only goes
to help Donald Trump because first and
foremost before you get into all of the
prior inconsistent statements and the
convictions for things related to fraud
and lying if a defendant who sits in the
witness chair has a built in bias
against the defendant you can disregard
all of their other testimony and the
same goes for Stormy Daniels and whether
or not they ever had an
affair so far Michael Cohen is trying to
sketch a relationship in which he's
tight with Trump Viva that he it was an
open door policy he could go in there
whenever he wanted didn't need an
appointment and that
they were so close that Trump shared his
contact list like in his I don't know if
it's his phone I don't think Trump yeah
Trump seems to be aew yeah the Rolodex
phone use but uh his Rolodex and I
actually just heard people on CNN saying
oh my God who would do that who would
share every single contact they have
with you know their their right-hand
person meanwhile I'm like Abigail finan
literally knew when it was time for me
to get more birth control back you know
back back when I was taking it my
assistant let me tell you there are
plenty of us who share everything with
our right-hand person but the whole
point is to show they're tight they're
tight tight tight and later it will be
argued Michael Cohen would never have
done anything without running it by
Trump well okay I have to get this
thought out of my head before because
this goes back to the question so
whether not you believe Trump did this
with Stormy Daniels for anybody who
didn't watch her testimony she said she
was allergic to latex so in all of her
hundreds of movies of career she never
used a condom and we're to believe that
Donald Trump who by all accounts as a
germaphobe would do this I it's like
that old commercial when you have
unprotected sex with somebody you're not
just having sex with them but everyone
who they've ever had sex with so all
that say I had to say that before I
forgot it uh do I believe Michael
Cohen's testimony is all over the place
I I put out a meme because it's
hilarious where his answer was yes I
mean no that was one of the last tweets
from Inner City Press Matthew russle
that I had the privilege of reading
before we went live the guy he'll say
anything what's clear is that he's got
over malice and animus towards Trump as
does Stormy Daniels and she's got a
personal Vendetta or at least Financial
interests in seeing Trump go down
because she owes him a half a million
dollars and doesn't want to pay any of
that they have clear animus if they
don't have potentially other mental
issues I mean stormmy touched on it as
to whether or not you know she might be
suffering some from some mental issues
Michael Cohen if he doesn't touch on it
it it might appear to be apparent from
his behavior but what we've seen you
know in in the broader scheme we've seen
a a politically weaponized machine that
has no qualms about using the mentally
unwell as tools for political profit the
way they exploited egene Carol to go
after Trump under that law that they
recently amended to allow her to do it I
say to some extent the way the machine U
you know exploited Federman in his time
of illness just because they needed him
on the seat and then when he started
saying things critical of the party they
start you know potentially throwing him
under the bus we see an exploitation of
Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels to
their detriment to pursue Trump and my
concern is it doesn't matter what
evidence is presented or is not
presented we are in New York Trump is
getting convicted the same way he was
found liable for that nonsense eene
Carol suit so the bottom line I don't
think it matters what evidence is is on
display or what evidence is contradicted
I think Trump is getting convicted
regardless it'll be for the appeals to
WR this
wrong it's kind of it's beyond it's kind
of a moot point I hope it's not Phil but
it's kind of a moot point I mean we're
lawyers so we want to analyze the
evidence and say are we convinced has
has the prosecution proven its case but
I mean I just can't get past the fact
that New York went Manhattan went 87%
for Joe Biden and those 133% probably
voted for Jill Stein and no one like I
just this is not a trump loving Town
politically Manhattan and the odds are
lawyer or not lawyer you know healthcare
worker not they don't like Donald Trump
no one they know likes Donald Trump
their families hate Donald Trump their
wives hate Donald Trump those are the
odds so I just can't get past the fact
that we're kind of out here like
bobbleheads the trial's already lost in
all likelihood that's what Alvin Bragg
is banking on because this truly has to
be one of the worst cases I've ever seen
and you tell me about your experience
but I mean it's such a joke that he must
be just banking on on the fix being in
with the jury given their
politics you know when I was a
prosecutor I could not even imagine for
one second bringing any case to trial
let alone one against a former president
where there is absolutely no
corroborating physical or other evidence
to support the the testimony of a
disbarred convicted felonious liar named
Michael Cohen who who goes on Tik Tok
and wants nothing more than to show the
World him in his Donald Trump Behind
Bars t-shirt when that is the person who
concocted any kind of scheme or made any
legal uh plan or gave any legal advice
and he wants the jury to send the client
to prison for doing what he as the
client's lawyer asked them to do it's
just not a a rational thing to expect in
a rational legal world but when the deck
is stacked in your favor like it
probably is for the reasons you said for
Alvin Bragg then you you can just go for
it and all you care about is the
short-term potential for a shortterm
conviction and let's not kid ourselves
either Harvey Weinstein yes his case got
reversed because a judge let in too much
irrelevant stuff to slime a criminal
defendant to the point that it became an
unfair trial but we cannot say that we
can expect the same thing for Donald
Trump because for the same reason uh
that the jury is has got it in for
Donald Trump the same reason judge meran
I think is biased against Donald Trump
the justices and the judges and the
appeals process also probably hate
Donald Trump because it is after all New
York so this thing from beginning to end
top to bottom just stinks of being
unfair and it's the kind of thing that
an irrational world would not have
gotten this far but we've got this
convicted fonus liar Michael Cohen who
has to not only make out all the
elements of the crime because we haven't
seen that yet but we also have to get a
jury uh I guess to pretend that all the
other times he may have lied under oath
so be it but this time he's decided
we'll get we'll get to what a li Michael
Cohen is we we'll take some some time to
dig into that with the you know the
thing is um they've proven you know they
they've had testimony that Trump was
concerned about this Karen McDougall the
the playmate of the year with whom he
allegedly had an actual Affair not not
like a one night stand and that he that
the national inquire paid her $150,000
to you know give them exclusive rights
to her story which they never published
that Stormy Daniels came forward
alleging on one night stand and that
Cohen paid her $130,000 and then sought
reimbursement that's the underlying
basis for this case they also have
proven that this
doorman uh this doorman at Trump Tower
claimed that there was a woman Inside
Trump Tower who is the mother of Trump's
illegitimate baby and the national
inquire paid that guy 30 grand to catch
and kill his story we know that one was
not true and Trump presumably knew that
one was not true so there's no question
that Trump did pay through pecker I
guess he didn't reimburse him because
Trump is an Infamous cheap gate I mean
that is pretty much the uniform
testimony but um Trump the Trump wanted
that story caught and killed Cohen and
pecker and they did they caught and
killed the $30,000 doorman thing which
indisputably was fake
now I heard CNN this morning talking
about like well well this these payments
are a lot higher 130 no they're not you
dumb asses you guys know in the law of
in the world of law the difference
between 30 grand and 130 is nothing it's
basically how dumb is your opposing
Council who's trying to shake you down
right like I'll pay probably 150 to get
rid of you that's nuisance change that's
what my client's going to pay in legal
fees if we have to do this for the next
six months but it's it's it's a nuisance
value settlement either way so we can't
tell anything by the money this was
Caitlyn Collins by the way suggesting
this can't tell anything by the money
about whether Trump thought it was true
Viva or knew it was true well Caitlyn
Collins has not had the best um takes on
things in any realm of the universe but
I I think this actually highlights
something a little bit more Insidious
where you had Michael Cohen and pecker
you know the fixer fixing things that
they break going to Trump with a story
that everybody knows is false but saying
you better pay it off and you better pay
us off to do the work or if it goes
public it might cause harm anyhow and it
does sound an awful lot like Michael
Cohen and pecker were involved in a
Shakedown scheme on Donald Trump and it
might explain it might explain why Ami
which is Pecker's organization signed
the non-prosecution agreement with the
state back in 2018 but one thing that's
worth mentioning in all of this it's not
just that it's a biased jurisdiction and
a corrupt judge like we're talking about
all this now and we're still forgetting
or we seem to be forgetting that Trump
is still being gagged he's still
incapable of publicly addressing these
two confirmed Liars a porn star and a
convicted perjurer according to Arthur
anger on the other New York corrupt
judge he's still gagged while all this
is going on and can't publicly refute a
lot of the lies that they're saying
Stormy Daniels gets up there and says I
felt drugged I mean objection sustained
but what the hell is that to say I feel
like I blacked out like it's so
prejudicial and so absolutely irrelevant
to the underlying theory of the case the
underlying felony and but and and a
shout out by the way to to this guy
named Joe nman uh Megan you might not
know him Joe nman good logic a New York
attorney who's trying to lift the gag on
Donald Trump with the not so novel but
pretty obvious argument that the gag on
Trump doesn't just violate his first
amendment rights it violates all of ours
because we have the right to hear what
he has to say saying that too yeah it's
wild it's it's wild so this guy he's
doing some good work ungag Trump but
like he's being gagged these two people
come out and spew the most prejudicial
of lies and if he dares to comment on it
publicly corrupt judge Marsha whose
daughter is profiting handsomely from
this trial as is Adam Schiff her client
if he says
anything oh yeah Michael come with his
Tick Tock and all this crap I don't know
how that works but if if Trump says
anything he might go to jail because
it'll be his 11th strike for uh contempt
charges under this corrupt judge Juan
Marsha the whole system is freaking
broken and to is it alpachino the whole
system is out of order right now and
people really need to appreciate it and
start speaking up about it you're out of
order you're out of order yes um no it's
it's actually amazing because stormmy
Daniels has written a book she's had a
documentary made about her she's gotten
paid off both by Michael Cohen and then
by all these news agencies including NBC
News which gave her $100,000 for back
footage for back footage they
bought her interview they're they're
just like the national Inquirer in that
way uh they're they're making Bank off
of these allegations and Michael Cohen
now despite the fact that he's a
convicted f
with a Tik Tok with merch he's selling
that has Trump's picture in jail this is
like a week ago this was out there and
he was touting it and celebrating it
this is their star witness biased much
um the only person who can't comment on
it is Trump and then we have the sitting
president of the United States making
jokes about Trump's trials at the White
House correspondence dinner once again
Trump can't respond he has to keep his
mouth shut or they're going to throw him
in jail for real what what if this case
is still going when it comes to an
appeal or what have you when these two
if these two finally do have a debate in
October which is typically when the two
candidates debate and Joe Biden brings
it up can he say anything about it then
is does the gag order last until the end
of the entire case judge or is he
allowed on the presidential debate stage
to actually offer a retort when he's
under attack that's how absurd this this
whole thing is
Phil yeah the whole thing is is absurd
from from top to bottom this this
business with the gag order I just can't
for the life of me understand why judge
merchon seems to think that he can't
issue a gag order against somebody who's
under a States subpoena for Christ's
sake he can he should and the fact that
he refuses to do so is only in my view
more evidence of his bias but if I can
get to this one question back to Michael
Cohen where is attorney client privilege
why has why is the judge allowing all
this into evidence because all the stuff
that Michael Cohen was involved with uh
was attorney client privilege and the
fact that he's not a
lation Phil well I mean nobody seems to
be litigating this Megan and I don't see
anybody objecting I don't see anybody
standing up saying you know this is my
attorney client privilege I object to to
all this stuff and and Michael Cohen by
the way is out here talking about things
that are not even related to the issue
at hand in this case and so there should
be an objection every time something
like that comes up there are two lawyers
as we know can I just say let me jump in
because I I'm going to argue against
myself so how can it be crime fraud
exception basically for the listening
audience if if Phil's my lawyer and I
tell him a bunch of stuff it's
privileged but if what I'm telling him
is I'm I'm committing uh you know some
sort of a fraud and I want you to paper
the deal for me and you have to put it
down in a false way because that's tell
I'm going to get away with my fraud and
feels like yeah I'm on it I'll do it for
you that that would not be privileged
because of the crime fraud exception but
they're not alleging even the
prosecution knows that a hush money
payment is not illegal paying off Stormy
Daniels paying off Karen McDougall even
paying off the dumb door man not illegal
what was allegedly illegal is the
documentation of it which they say
wasn't proper but they're not talking
about Communications at least not yet
related to the documentation that's
actually what they're really missing is
is testimony from Michael Cohen that
Trump directed or knew about exactly how
this was all going to be documented
maybe we'll get there but go ahead Phil
for Crime fraud you've got to have some
judicial determination that there was a
fraud here there's no evidence um
outside of what Michael Cohen says is
that there was any kind of crime or
certainly there's no fraud you've got no
victims you've got somebody making a
writing a check to his attorney uh it's
either for attorney fees or it's to pay
for the um consideration that's
necessary to support report a valid
contract so there's been no judicial
determination that crime fraud even
applies here so how this whole thing is
coming in without any objection
apparently is beyond me and hopefully
the two lawyers on the jury will at
least see that because we lawyers if
nothing else we take pride in in uh the
the attorney client privilege it's
sacran because if without it we couldn't
do our jobs we could not represent our
clients whether it's in a criminal case
a business relations cas domestic
anything we can't do our jobs without a
attorney client privilege that is held
sacran by the courts maybe these two
jurors on this jur these two lawyers on
this jury will appreciate that and see
that there is something very very rotten
in Denmark I mean Michael Cohen for the
record is no longer a lawyer he's no
longer a licensed attorney he's been
disbarred that's just the smallest of
his many problems with the law convicted
felon you know admitted liar lied before
Congress while under oath um said he
lied to a federal court was
cross-examined by um Alina Haba Trump's
lawyer in one of the other cases and
admitted yeah I've lied repeatedly to
federal courts I mean he's just being
disbarred as an attorney is the least of
his worries but he taped his own client
you know they spent some time this
morning on his tape uh Viva with Trump
discussing the Karen McDougall payment
which is color to this case but is not
really an issue in this case
the documentation of it is not something
he's been charged with it's the
documentation of a different payment to
a different woman the prosecutions just
setting the stage with the Karen
McDougall
stuff it look the evidence that we've
been seeing adduced by Michael Cohen and
Stormy Daniels has had no probative
evidentiary value it has only been for
the purposes of being prejudicial in
that it's humiliating or paints a
picture of when you're talking about the
crime fraud exception look I won't
venture out of my alley I was a Quebec
attorney no no longer practicing um
because I don't live in Quebec anymore
but when Michael Cohen was recording
these conversations there was no crime
even being alleged to have been
committed and so he's recording the
conversations with his client not
because he's being bullied into breaking
the law by a an El Chapo type client
he's recording it to extort his client
at a later date if need be and that's
what let me just interject what he said
today was that he recorded him because
he wanted to then go show the national
Inquirer see this is like he's on me to
make sure it's getting done we got to
make sure this gets done you know I'm
that connected Megan and let me just
tell you how how I'm not calling you
this name I'm calling Michael con how
insanely idiotic that explanation is
that he's gonna go tell David pecker I
secretly recorded my own client and now
I'm showing you something that he
doesn't know I even recorded I mean it's
so insanely what he did was ex would
make a recording potentially with the
long-term objective of extorting trump
and that's exactly what he's doing right
now he failed to get on the campaign it
seems that he was heartbroken and some
people might have suggested suicidal but
that's what he was doing he wasn't even
recording a crime in real time the
ultimate irony in all of this is that I
don't know if you followed Michael aanad
the other the other convicted lawyer
extortionist in this wonderful Trilogy
of characters from from jail tweeting
out that he gets a call from the
producer of of Stormy Daniels
documentary Netflix series and then they
admit that they circumvented payment to
Stormy Daniels to circumvent the money
that she owed Donald Trump and so they
concocted a fraudulent payment scheme to
conceal stormy Daniel assets from Donald
Trump I mean it's another realm of
accuse your enemies of what you're doing
you know confession through projection
they are the ones who are guilty of
everything they're accusing Trump of but
bottom line when Cohen was recording
that conversation his his explanation is
untenable at best to say I'm gonna go to
some other guy now and show you a secret
recording between me and my client
untenable he was doing it know it does
occur to me I don't I don't believe that
Trump has committed a crime here but I
would say if you're thinking about
committing a crime you should definitely
do it with a bunch of losers convicted
liars and you know people with no
reputation it's very helpful when they
take the stand I me it's very easy to
dismiss for the record here is uh that
Cohen Trump audio from September uh
2016 all right this is two months before
the election not even discussing Karen
McDougall and you can hear uh Cohen
suggest the matter has been handled and
you hear Trump say something about cash
and you'll hear Cohen say no no no and
then they say check I don't know the the
submission was that this is Trump
clearly being like payer in cash for
God's sake and Michael Cohen saying no I
don't I'm not sure if my own take on it
is that it hasn't really become an issue
not for nothing but here's the
tape um I need to open up a company for
the transfer of all of that info
regarding our friend David you know so
that I'm going to do that right away
I've actually come up and I've spoken
and I've spoken to Allan weiselberg
about how to set the whole thing up uh
with so what are we going to pay
funding yes um and it's all the stuff
all the stuff because you know you never
know where that company you never know
where he's going to be correct so I'm
I'm all over that and I spoke to Allen
about it when it comes time for the
financing which will be listen what
financing we have to pay so no no no no
no no I got no no
no uh okay so that's the you know it's
showing how involved Trump was in the
payments to Karen McDougall not stormy
and thus the implication by the
prosecution will be he was this involved
in stormy as well and I assume Viva
shortly we're going to hear Michael
Cohen probably testify to that too that
he micromanaged all the payments
including the stormmy payments um again
though they have to get to him also
saying
and this is how I would like it to be
documented in the books this is how you
should bill it Michael Cohen and this is
how our bookkeeper keeper will write it
down I really I don't know that I
wouldn't put it past Cohen but I'm
actually not expecting that
testimony this is the portion where
Michael Cohen said that when asked uh is
there a longer conversation you had
later he says yes I mean no I think and
I think this is the same one where he
says that the call got or the recording
got cut short CU he got a call from
capital all right yeah I'm not sure that
I even believe that that recording was
cut was cut short as a result of an
incoming call I would pass anybody to
delete to cut it there because who the
heck knows what they discussed
afterwards
um what do I what do I surmise from that
absolutely nothing to quote the great
movie UHF absolutely nothing all right
good and that doesn't even have to do
with the alleged payment in the alleged
34 charge faon the indictment this is
just to color the file with a bunch of
prejudicial irrelevant information to
attack character or make some look bad
all that I know is listening to that
Michael Cohen sounds like the scumbag
stereotype of an attorney that we all
know that he is um it's so dirty Megan
to record a conversation like that what
was he doing for
that with a client with your only client
and when you you point out accurately he
knew this wasn't a crime that this there
was wasn't even allegedly cry just he
just recorded him without telling him on
his iPhone all right standby when we
come back um I want to um the the movie
clip that that I think best embodies who
Michael Cohen looks like right now and
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what he's staying on the stand saying on
the stand and the many many many many
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rescue.org so completing our Greek
tragedy um he wanted to be attorney
general he wanted to be taken along to
the administration Trump was smart
enough to realize no there's no role for
you there and then this is basically
what happened to Michael Cohen he be he
became very familiar to many of us who
have seen this movie many many times he
jumped out immediately in all of the
writings he did about Trump and podcasts
he did about Trump and testimony he gave
about Trump becoming absolutely obsessed
with the man I give you Glen close I
just want to be a part of your life oh
this is the way you do it huh sh up at
my apartment what am I supposed to do
you won't answer my calls you change
your number I mean I'm not going to be
ignored
Dan yes that's Michael Cohen today he
makes his living based on Donald Trump
he talks about Donald Trump even on the
stand he seemed a little wistful about
his earlier time when he mattered to
Donald Trump and now he's just like
everything about this guy is defined by
Donald Trump um he did switch his tune I
mean I like okay he has lied so many
times it's hard to keep up um but he's
praised Trump repeatedly I'll just give
you a little okay here he is in S three
in a
montage one thing Donald Trump is he's a
compassionate man he's a man of great
intellect great intuition and great
abilities Mr Trump's memory is fantastic
and it I've never come across a
situation where Mr Trump has said
something that's that's not accurate Mr
Trump truly cares about America he loves
this country he's an amazing negotiator
maybe the best ever in the history of
this world the words the media should be
using to describe Mr Trump are generous
compassionate principled
empathetic kind humble honest and
genuine he's not lying he was protecting
a friend there's a difference what is
the difference the difference is he was
being a true friend he was it didn't
matter to him he will ultimately and
I've said this so many times he will
ultimately go down in history as the
greatest
president oh my god with Chris qumo who
by the way has got his hands totally
dirty in this whole thing too so that's
that's the government star witness today
Phil I mean I realize he changed his
tune but he it's so self-serving a jury
will see through
this I hope a jury will see through it
but we're talking about New York after
all and we we've well documented that
this jury uh Alvin Bragg is counting on
this jury to be sort of in the bag for
brag and against Trump you know it when
you got a lawyer who is surreptitiously
recording a client and then basically
saying this little snippet of a
conversation proves all the other things
that I'm saying that are negative about
him which by the way weren't recorded it
just defies credibility there's just no
way in the world that a rational jury
and a rational legal system would buy
off on any of this Megan you you've got
this individual who's capable of saying
all of the the things that you just
played in that so and then fast forward
to today everything that he says under
oath before this jury is going to be
diametrically different normally we
would say that that person is a
compulsive liar and is not the kind of
person you want to build a felony
prosecution around they have not proven
the elements of this case there's been
no evidence yet in this case that Donald
Trump committed a crime they're going to
have to hang their hat entirely on the
testimony of this liar they're going to
have to get jury to say uh you know what
all the other times he's lied we're
going to give him a pass We Believe
Beyond a reasonable doubt he's telling
the truth here in court and it's it's
going to be all done without any
corroboration there's no physical
evidence there's not going to be any
documents you're not going to have
Donald Trump writing a letter saying hey
Michael I want you to to use this money
I want you to pay it for something and I
want to record it on the books in
another way no this is payment for legal
fees or legal matters and that's how
expenses expens which is even more
ambiguous the word they used and how
where's the accountant yeah well that's
exactly right I mean the CFO is in jail
he's at Riker's and I don't expect him
there's a real question about whether
they're going to drag him in and testify
and if they don't whether they're going
to get an adverse inference drawn by
jurist instruction uh we'll see but
here's Michael Cohen I gave you the he's
the greatest thing since slic bread that
was like Glenn CL and Michael Douglas in
the beginning of the movie The Hot
elevator sex the days and days behind
closed doors while the wife was away it
was actually only one night that was the
beginning um then Trump started to
ignore the calls and much as it had the
same effect on Glen close in Fatal
Attraction here's what it did to Michael
Cohen all right I'll show you let's
start with stop five Michael Cohen here
with another Michael Cohen reacts well
I've been receiving countless phone
calls by people all concerned because
they're hearing on the media that Donald
Trump is going to run again and he's
going to make this up
announcement some time after the midterm
elections all right I still to this day
maintain that he is not doing it it is
still part of this great grift of Donald
Trump now for me personally I hope to
God that this scumbag runs I
really do and you ask me why well first
of all because 24 hours after that I'm
going to put together my own team I want
to run as a Democrat I want to put
myself up on a stage against this fat
this orange crusted Mandarin Oompa
Loompa so let's see let's see if I'm
right stay tuned I'll be
back then he took his bunny off the St
jerk this is their star
witness no but but well I mean I I don't
use the word grifter very often I'm not
going to use it now but that very much
seems like someone who's going to say
one thing when it's profitable one way
and say something that's the exact
opposite when it's profitable the other
way and the other thing is when he's out
there you know praising Trump first of
all I happen to agree with him back then
but he's not just praising Trump because
he is like a narcissist indirectly
praising himself this is how smart Trump
is how good he is and all this stuff and
I'm his right-hand man I'm his fixer so
it must be reflection on my own
greatness as well but you know the idea
that this guy is a convicted perjurer uh
he is a confirmed liar he's a he's a
scoundrel of the highest order I am now
retrospectively reanalyzing judge
angron's decision in the uh egene Carol
Case where he addresses Michael Cohen
and he specifically says it's very funny
why he said it this man is a convicted
perjurer he's a liar some angeron was
angaran was the fraud case the the $400
million fraud angeron was yes the $455
milon co and testified in that case keep
going yes not the egene Cal sorry just
to clarify that there um angeron said as
a matter of his decision Michael Cohen
is a convicted perjurer and while some
triers of fact might not give much
weight to the words of a liar I believe
him here I'm paraphrasing but it's
almost verbatim it's almost perfect now
that I'm now that I'm listening to that
and rethinking it it's like angeron was
phrasing what the jury has to spew out
in terms of coming to a conviction here
yeah he's a convicted perjurer some
jurors might think he's a liar now but
we choose to believe him now because
once a perjurer not always a perjurer
but no I think angron actually
telegraphed and laid up the script that
the jury is going to gobble up to come
to their foregone conclusion everyone
around him Phil is a liar Michael Cohen
is a liar he had a lawyer and continues
to have a lawyer he's still represented
by this guy David Schwarz who you may
recall Michael Cohen got in trouble a
couple months ago when he was trying to
get out of jail not long ago late late
23 and he cited a bunch of case law to
the judge it was all made up it it was
fake cases that he used some AI
generator to come up with and his lawyer
was this guy David Schwarz and I've got
to show you this so David Schwarz came
on my show at NBC shortly after this
whole story broke about the $130,000
payment and so on and so forth and now
we know that that Trump reimbursed Cohen
for the 130 we know that and it's almost
better if Trump just would have done it
himself because you can make unlimited
donations to your own campaign but you
can't have a third party do it which is
how they're trying to get him but anyway
there's no question that Trump
reimbursed Cohen for the 130 but the
First Defense that Cohen came out with
was I was not reimbursed and I I just
did this out of my love again back to
the Glen close in the elevator for
Donald Trump and Schwarz came on my Tred
to spew this nonsense look at
this he got approached it'll take
$130,000 to make this go away he had to
make a decision okay IIs I'm not even
challenging Onis I'm challenging on on
on the impossibility it's not that he
paid 130 grand for something he didn't
do and never saw reimbursement from I
get when you're looking at it in a
vacuum like when but if you understand
the relationship here it makes complete
sense that he's approached am I going to
go to the boss or am I not going to go
to the boss all right what do I do he
chose not to go to the boss he chose to
take care of this thing why wouldn't he
get 130 why would he pay 130 Grand of
his own money you're well you know what
you're gonna when Michael Cohen does
come out you're gonna you're GNA find
out the mechanics of that no you're not
answering you're dodging you're getting
out of bound I am I am answering you
what's the truth the qu the truth is he
loves he loves the boss and he did it
out of love he he did
it he did
it he did it out of love and he did it
out of
loyalty all right so they laughed openly
at him we know that he was reimbursed of
course he was reimbursed and that's his
lawyer he's the lawyer is a liar Cohen
is a liar the jury's not stupid I know
they hate Trump but they're not stupid
and I just gave you one sound bite
here's a little bit more of Michael
Cohen on the record since the breakup
talk about Trump S
four yeah I think he's hit the panic
button a while ago however what he's
very good at is hiding it in front of
the camera he's Cal cool and collect
because he's a sociopath I looked at him
and I said to myself boy what a sad
looking pathetic deflated individual he
is playing to the lowest denominator of
American that exists in this country he
is truly the most dangerous person right
now in this country and possibly the
world Trump 2024 more like Trump 20 to
24
years okay so the thing is oh my gosh
lot to unpack the the prosecution's
trying to front a lot of this in in
direct so to take the sting out of
what's going to be an absolutely brutal
cross but there's no way they can take
all this St they spend every day all day
for the next two weeks beting him up if
they really wanted to get after
everything the defense is going to do to
him and I just can't believe that once
the defense is done the jury's going to
be having any feeling other than I want
to vomit get him out of
here but Megan you see the the jury's
not dumb the problem is they're partisan
in all likelihood and that's a big it's
a big distinction they're not going to
do what they're going to do out of
stupidity they're going to do it out of
partisan Prejudice and um and that's
what I think is a foregone conclusion
but everyone should rewatch that Michael
Cohen and just appreciate confession
through projection everything that Cohen
just said about Trump is true of himself
but Megan one thing but Phil I sorry I
cut you off um you mentioned it a moment
ago and it's something that people
should really understand by reimbursing
Cohen the allegation is that it was a
disguised campaign contribution because
uh you know Cohen made it and then he
got repaid for it the bottom line is
even if that's the case and that's the
theory of the case it should be Cohen
who should be the defendant in this and
not Trump because like you astutely
observed you can't you know overdate to
your own campaign and so if it was Trump
Camp donating to his own campaign in
kind or whatever it's not a crime if
it's Cohen who did it because he got
reimbursed and it exceeded his campaign
contribution Cohen should be the one on
the defense well here's the other thing
here's the other thing Phil I heard Andy
McCarthy raising this point as usual
with Andy it was a good one
um who was
defrauded who was the victim of this
alleged fraud because Michael Cohen paid
the money Michael Cohen and everybody
around him the testimony is consistent
he got paid back and Trump paid him
double what he paid out so that he could
pay full taxes 50% on All the Monies so
New York state did not get defrauded the
only thing that was defrauded was a book
allegedly in which they didn't write
down reimbursement for hush money
payment to stormmy Daniels they wrote
legal expenses paid to Michael Cohen
pursuant to a retainer agreement and the
testimony was there was no written
retain retainer agreement but meanwhile
all these lawyers are coming forward to
say I never have one written down I I've
had so many cases in which I don't have
a written down retainer M even if you're
supposed to anyway so who was defra the
book the book was given bad information
that was kept internally at Trump
organization the book wasn't even filed
as an addendum to a tax return or to
some sort of corporate submission that
was required it went on the shelf and it
sat there until Alvin Bragg subpoena it
so who was defrauded because fraud in
the ether is not actionable and the law
is really clear on that they won't
enforce fraud claims unless there's an
identifiable victim which is one of the
reasons why the whole fraud CLA claim
under engeron was so outrageous but
there at least we had a specific statute
saying it was okay yeah well ingaran of
course doesn't require any victims
before he labels something fraud neither
does Laticia James and apparently uh
neither does Alvin Bragg what in the in
the tick tock video with Michael Cohen
when he says he might run in you know in
20 because he wants to be sort of on
stage well that's what's happening right
now you he's got his way he is on stage
this whole thing is a theatrical Stage
production it's not a court of law this
is nothing that's based on reality in
the ter in terms of law because for the
reasons you pointed out there's no
victims no victims no fraud it's the
only time in history that I know of
where two misdemeanor uh arguably with
the statute limitations having passed
are combined together together to make a
felony or 36 felony fraud counts where
nobody was defrauded it's absolutely
ridiculous to call this thing a court of
law this is simply a theatrical
production and Michael Cohen has gotten
his way he is now on center stage with
Donald Trump and his Tik Tock followers
are just going insane and his and his
own star in his own mind is on the rise
but let there be no doubt Megan that
this jury is going to make their
decision based on their feelings about
not about Donald Trump not about what's
going on in this courtroom I can only
hope that there's one or two maybe even
three that will say look you know what
even though we don't like Donald Trump
we don't see a crime here and if we love
the law all right wait stand by hold
that hold the rest of that thought Phil
quick break and then back with the guys
right after
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gentlemen for what it's worth Trump sued
Michael Cohen for breaching attorney
client privilege months ago but he
dropped the suit in October there was
some allegation perhaps it wasn't viable
because Cohen was acting as quote fixer
and not attorney but of course Trump's
whole defense is that he paid legal
expenses so I don't I'm not sure why or
even if the Trump team abandoned the
Michael could Cohen shouldn't be talking
at all because he's my lawyer defense
we'll have to look into that more
here's what just happened before they
just broke for lunch it's 1: p.m.
Eastern Cohen uh testified that Donald
Trump told him to quote take care of the
Stormy Daniels story uh the Coen says
that Trump upon learning that Stormy
Daniels was shopping her story was very
angry with Michael Cohen who you recall
by this point in the story had been
working with AMI National Inquirer to
Tamp down these stories from Karen
McDougall and the doorman Etc uh calling
it he says Trump did a total dis F her
and saying quote women are going to hate
me Cohen says he responded that he had
no control over Daniel's story just take
care of it he says Trump told him Cohen
says he kept Trump informed on daniels's
situation that was what I always did
which was to keep him a breast of
everything Cohen said Trump quote was
not thinking about Melania this was all
about the campaign end quote while
discussing the Daniels deal Cohen said
he Cohen raised Melania to Trump and
that Trump responded quote don't worry
he goes how long do you think I'll be on
the market for not long he wasn't
thinking about Melania this was all
about the campaign per CNN Trump smirked
and shook his head when Cohen mentioned
Melania here's what's annoying to me
still and the audience has heard me like
this on a broken record but like we've
been over this campaign Finance law does
not look at what was in the subjective
head of the defendant to figure out
whether you viol ated the campaign's
finance laws it looks at the nature of
the payment if a hush money payment is
paid for any reason other than to help
somebody's electoral chances then it's
not a violation of the campaign Finance
laws it's only something like a payment
for polling or you know the the lecturn
to set up for a debate that you're never
going to have again or use again that
could be a legitimate campaign Finance
expense if Trump tried to claim this
hush money as a campaign Finance expense
they would have come after him saying
that it wasn't a legitimate one this
wasn't a campaign Finance donation
expense Etc they're only claiming it
retrospectively but even Trump's
Defenders fell on CNN and elsewhere just
skip right past this and go right to it
was all about Melania it wasn't about
and I'm sitting over here pulling my
hair out saying no one gives a we
don't care whether it's about Melania or
it was about the campaign all that
matters is is a hush money the kind of
payment that could only ever be used to
advance one's electoral chances that's
the only inquiry and nobody will talk
about about it it won't wind up in the
jury instructions and the jury will be
misled the same way CNN is about what
the relevant test is was it more Melania
or was it more of a campaign
concern and the in addition to that
Megan I want to know where the objection
is to this speculation you're asking a
witness to talk about what may or may
not be in the head of the criminal
defendant in this case I don't know this
is why it's so frustrating when you
can't watch the actual Court proceedings
on a live stream or on television
because you're getting it second and
third hand but when a witness wants to
tell a jury what somebody else thinks
that's an improper question it calls for
speculation uh if they have some type of
proof uh intrinsic that shows you know
this is what is in somebody's head if
they wrote a statement and you can infer
something from that but to for this man
to offer his opinion is absolutely an
objectionable question and it it makes
me wonder what kind of Kangaroo Court is
merchan even running here because if the
defense lawyers don't object to it why
doesn't the judge himself object to it
it's patently an improper question he's
starting to feel a little judgey to me I
mean I real he didn't allow cameras in
the courtroom but he's feeling a little
judge to me like he doesn't have control
of his courtroom he's not compelling the
control of the witnesses before him and
it is his courtroom and things are
spinning out of control we saw that with
stormy and I have no doubt Michael Cohen
will be similar on the Michael Cohen
front Viva I want to show you two things
number one we talked about how he's
banking he's cashing in on being the
Trump Nemesis he's got a tick tock show
he does which he agreed to suspend until
after his testimony out of deference and
respect for the court this after he was
doing the show and tweeting and giving
interviews to CNN and MSNBC elsewhere uh
for days and days and days while this
trial was going on it was only when the
judge said to the prosecution please
control your witness and they said we
can't control him we didn't strike a
deal with him like he's actually not
under our control and uh he was getting
he was jeopardizing the case so Michael
Cohen finally said all right I'll be
quiet until after the trial or after
after my testimony not not the trial but
here's what he was doing for the
listening audience I'm going to describe
this video okay here he is talking about
Donald Trump and the listeners put here
like a baseball cap on him this is like
the the viewers can they put Hearts
above his head he's like the resistance
leader they put a cowboy hat and a
mustache like they love him like yeah
you go he keeps doing hearts with his
hand you know like Justin Bieber hearts
like yeah when everybody says something
nice look he keeps doing it over and
over to show how much he appreciates the
the positive feedback they're putting a
heart the crown on top of his head
couple more yeah go go ahead I I'm just
for the listening audience what we're
watching is pure Insanity when they give
him like these I think Tik Tock tips
he's got to do the sign that they put in
their Tik Tock tip it's it's enough to
make you think you're going crazy
watching what he's doing Sor is okay
yeah I think they like they give tips
and he does he has to do what they do in
in the graphic well somebody got on
there and made him look like a fool with
not that he doesn't there but I mean
extra with um like a silly kns hat and
is look at this he looks like Woody
Allen over there on the right and I
think ABC News did an article about all
this and then he denied it he said they
were fake news okay well we can kind of
see it with our own eyes what you're
doing um but he is a hero to those on
the left and now Viva this is my second
Point who doesn't remember Donald Trump
right with the apprentice and this is
really how he rose to fame Beyond New
York with this this show all right and
I'm going to show
you let me show you stop 14 first just
for those of you who don't remember The
Apprentice
promo I've mastered the art of the deal
and I've turned the name Trump into the
highest quality brand and as the master
I want to pass along my knowledge to
somebody else I'm looking for The
Apprentice and credit to the New York
Post for finding this and pulling it
good for them uh now take a look at
Michael Cohen's promo for his show he's
pitching to all the networks called the
fixer I've been on a journey of
redemption working to set things right
with my family my friends my country
speaking truth to power and calling it
like I see it but now I'm paying it
forward wielding the tools that I've
learned for regular people in trouble
the little guy doesn't usually have
access to to people with my particular
set of skills but that's all about to
change I'll work with you offering
expertise advice and solutions to fix
your problem together we'll change your
life I am your
fixer my God someone's probably going to
pick it
up um give him credit that's well edited
and that's well put together but that is
the proverbial lips stick on a pig um no
Megan one thing that's it cannot also be
over stressed when you talk about the
hush payments and unless it's
exclusively for the campaign then it's
not unlawful to begin with just compare
this to historical precedent you had
John Edwards paying off just just to
interrupt via because it it it does
bother me it's not they don't have to
prove that it was exclusively for the
campaign they have to prove that the
nature of the payment is such that no
one ever pays or would pay this pay
for anything other than a campaign like
campaign polling okay so it's not even
it what's in his head is totally
irrelevant and if this judge had just
allowed some expert testimony from a
campaign Finance expert he would know
that and it would be changing the shape
of this trial sorry keep going no well
that it's it's a good uh clarification
because I was not only going to leave
this at John Edwards who made a hush
payment in a campaign season and it was
deemed I think totally lawful he Hillary
Clinton's opposition research with the
steel dosier which served one and one
function only campaign by campaign
purposes which was misrepresented in
terms of how it was paid for mislabeled
and also oh yeah it was an outright lie
that was used to be smuggle to the FBI
via Hillary's attorney and for that
campaign violation for that you know
disguised unlawful um relabeling or
mislabeling of a payment she got fined
8,000 bucks in the DNC 30,000 bucks that
was the actual crime that was UN actual
crime as opposed to what they're going
after Trump for now so it's again like
it's not just double standards it's
outright lawlessness because they're
going after their political adversary
and they just have to find a politically
prejudiced jury to you know pull the
pull the pull the switch this is why you
have even fared Zakaria no rightwing
Zealot he over at CNN saying the
following s n the trials against keep
him in the spotlight infuriate his base
who sees him as a martyr and even may
serve to make him the object of some
sympathy among people in general who
believe that his prosecutors are
politically motivated this happens to be
true in my opinion I doubt the New York
indictment would have been brought
against a defendant whose name was not
Donald
Trump no good for f though it's it's bad
not it's not bad because it's bad it's
bad because it's helping him I mean what
what what moral and ethical depravity
it's like it's not objectively bad so
therefore wrong it's bad because it's
strategically not working the way you
wanted to go ahead
Phil yeah so I mean fared is absolutely
correct and I'm glad that he said that
because look and I would say the same
thing too if this were a trial where you
had a uh Barack Obama or a Bill Clinton
or even a Joe Biden that was being uh
targeted by a partisan district attorney
in an area where the the deck is
absolutely stacked against him from a
criminal defendant standpoint I would be
saying the same thing because this needs
to be about fundamental fairness
fairness in the justice system that's
what due process is that means
fundamental fairness and if they can
take it and they can do it to someone
like Donald Trump a former president of
the United States then they can do it to
you they can do it to me they can do it
to Viva or anybody else watching this
show so if we allow our justice system
to be weaponized and bastardized in this
way simply because we don't like a
specific person orange men bad or
whatever and if you can get the Dex act
with a jury a judge and a prosecutor all
on the same team designed to get a
specific individual s uh citizen of the
United States then our system of justice
means nothing anymore and I've got to
believe that it means more than that now
uh if we can have more on the left like
Zacharia saying the and pointing this
out then then great we because we need
the left and we need the right we need
everybody to understand that this is
about something bigger and more than
Donald Trump it's about the very
existence of our judicial system as we
know it reject the bastardization of our
legal system all right just um here's a
little bit of color Okay exactly I'm
because you know it's one thing to say
Cohen's lied under under oath but this
is via political who went through it and
did a good job by his own admission he's
lied in court he's lied to the media and
he's pleaded guilty to lying to Congress
in 2018 he pleaded guilty to nine
criminal charges including campaign
Finance violations those were tacked on
at the end he said okay yeah that one
too because that'll help me get Trump
tax related charges in lying to Congress
sentenced to three years in prison uh he
told Politico that when he lied to a
senate committee in 2017 he did so
solely for the purpose of benefiting his
then boss Trump he wants that as an
excuse soon after his many guilty pleas
Cohen began saying publicly that
actually he had not committed tax
evasion despite having told a federal
judge in court that he had example when
Cohen attempted to get his sentence
reduced Federal prosecutors said that
they had substantial concerns about his
credibility as a witness and that
following his sentencing he quote made
material false statements during
meetings with prosecutors and the FBI
prosecutors declined his offer to meet
with them again during Donald Trump's
civil fraud trial Cohen again remarked
this time under oath that he had not
committed tax evasion the thing to which
he pleaded guilty and said said he had
lied to the judge when he pleaded guilty
Trump's lawyer said so you lied at the
time you lied more than once in federal
court is that correct Cohen correct
after his testimony in the Civil fraud
case Cohen had sought to have his
supervised release requirements eased
but Federal prosecutors for the southern
district opposed that and he did go back
to jail they told the judge overseeing
the issue that Co and quote has
continued to deny responsibility for his
own criminal conduct and appears to have
lied under oath in a court proceeding
this guy you couldn't ask for a less
incedible witness especially on his Glen
Close subject Donald Trump now can we
just spend a minute on the legal
expenses and the actual documentation
guys this is like this is drier but it's
really the most important thing I keep
asking my team because we have to read
the updates same same as you guys do has
Cohen yet
testified Trump directed how these
payments were going to be written down
in the books that he that he knew about
it or that he directed it Cohen has
testified just right before lunch that
he directed and knew about the repayment
to Cohen for the payoff to stormmy all
right so that's in the record but that
doesn't get us there they need him or
someone to testify that Donald Trump was
the one who not just signed the checks
which did not say what they were for on
them but who said to co this is how
we're going to document it you know to
to get around the campaign Finance loss
that's that's Bragg's Theory has not
happened so far so back to Andy over at
National Review okay let me just read
you these stats and then you guys weigh
in here's what he points out okay this
is important each month in
2017 beginning in February when the
arrangement was finalized Cohen was to
provide an invoice that invoice would be
paid by check an entry would be made on
the Trump orgs books da Alvin Bragg says
that the Trump records are false because
the payments to Cohen really constituted
repayment of a debt not legal expenses
and that debt was incurred in October
2016 the 130 paid to stormmy but they
were made to appear in the records as if
they weren't repayment for a debt as if
Cohen was being paid for ongoing Legal
Services provided in
2017 the checks don't say anything about
why Cohen was paid just that he was paid
35 Grand a month which is true as for
the entries in the Trump organization
records testimony at trial this week
showed that the bookkeeping Department
logged the payments as quote legal
expenses and there was testimony that
not much thought went into this that the
bookkeeping Department was using a
dropdown menu on a computer program
designed in the early 90s and routinely
put payments to lawyers and related
expenses into this General category um
yes and then you know he makes the case
as many have that these actually were
legal expenses Cohen was Trump's lawyer
by the way he also goes through the
money Arthur idala was confused about
this as was I on
Friday this is how much they paid Cohen
420 a lot of people have said well why
420 if if it was only 130 to stormm me
here's the math they doubled it up for
taxes so that consisted 260 then they
also gave him 50 Grand which was for
2016 tech services from a Communications
firm called redfinch Solutions all right
an now we're up to 360 and then they
gave him a bonus for 60 Grand which is
not described we don't know what the
bonus is for Andy points out it could be
retrospective recognition of past
Services could also be prospective
expectation that Cohen in his then new
capacity as a private lawyer who had
just separated from Trump would continue
to serve Trump as needed so there we
have it that's the payments are written
down the um bookkeeper made a decision
based on a drop-down menu
Viva nowhere anywhere has there been
testimony tying it to Trump's knowledge
and this is a fraud case so that
matters Megan it's a it's a joke was it
mccan last week who said that you know
Trump basically knew nothing about this
and it was for Legal Services as per
retainer agreements I mean that is what
it has always been and you know these
these numbers might seem a lot or
astronomical for people who have never
practiced law or for people who are not
wealthy like the trumps I mean this is
what a couple hundred thousand dos for a
man Michael Cohen who's off doing his
business and Trump doesn't want to be
bothered with every detail that's going
on Michael Cohen does his business and
says here's what it cost this month and
go and you know unless there's some
radical need to look over invoices and
see what's going on that's what was
going on and but the problem is even if
it was what they want to say it was it
wouldn't be legal but it's not even what
they want to say it was this is all just
a big kangaroo coat show trial so they
can hopefully eek out a conviction
before November so sleepy Joe Biden can
repeat the talking point convicted felon
do you really want this guy to be a
president even though it gets it
overturned on appeal because all of this
is unconstitutional or unlawful because
you can't have a state Prosecuting for
federal election crimes that the feds
themselves looked into and refused to
take on all right last question Phil on
a different subject matter because there
is a significant piece of news out of
Atlanta today we talked last week about
how the court of appeals down there and
State Court of Appeals had accepted um
the the case they said that Trump could
file an interlocutory appeal meaning
before the trial is done over the
judge's refusal to disqualify Fanny
Willis they gave him or he had until May
18th to do it today's May 13th right
today's May 13th so there's news in that
uh what is
it so uh we now have I think the first
of the several notices of appeal having
been filed so basically the way it works
is once the trial court and the court of
appeals agree to the interlocutory
pre-trial appeal then the parties go
back and file their formal notice of
appeal with the trial court and that is
what officially transfers the case or
begins that process anyway to the
Georgia court of appeals so far I think
we know that Michael Roman of course
that's Ashley Merchant's client Ashley
being the uh the one who basically uh
uncovered all of this uh for the benefit
of the world and so now she has filed
her notice of appeal uh Donald Trump to
my knowledge has not yet filed his
notice of appeal I would suspect that
he's probably going to wait until close
to the end of the 10-day deadline in
which to do that but this is significant
because in my opinion this formally
divests the trial court of any
jurisdiction to take any further action
on the case some lawyers don't agree
with that admittedly but I believe that
now that it's in the court of appeals I
believe that no other action can be
taken and even if it can be it's
probably a bad idea for the trial court
to continue with any other business
because it might all be for nothing if
it turns out that fonny Willis uh has no
business remaining or being the
prosecutor in this case it is amazing I
mean the last word on this Viva but
you've got Georgia stopped in all
likelihood uh Mara lago's not going
anywhere before November January 6 is
stopped because the Supreme Court has
the case on immunity and another case
that may gut that January 6th Federal
prosecution involving non-trump j6
defendants and now we have this New York
joke case with Michael Cohen and Stormy
Daniels as the star Witnesses it's
amazing what the Trump team has been
able to pull off well it's wild the
depths of the depravity that this this
system is going after Trump because they
don't want democracy to to to to run its
course um I would only say in the fanny
Willis Case first of all I predicted
Fanny Willis would get disqualified and
when maafe declined to disqualify her I
felt a little uh deflated I will claim
Vindication if the court of appeal does
disqualify her and I think they will
because I couldn't see them taking this
with all the delays unless it was to
overturn what McAfee did just to
highlight McAfee had a nice fundraiser
with one of the witnesses the former
Governor and Democrat uh Roy Barnes who
apparently is representing Fanny Willis
in the state investigation uh you know
it's it's they raised 40,000 bucks for
Mcafee in his run against his Challenger
Robert Patilla so interesting stuff
corruption good politics I guess it's
only a question of perspective but I
want full Vindication when FIS gets
disqualified yeah same guys thank you
great job great to see you both thank
you very much thank for having me and
here's what what's interesting for the
listening audience um all this happens
you know as I've said Trump's pulling
the inside straight that's what he
needed to get out of this and he's doing
it uh and so as Viva points out it's
it's just left to democracy now
right that's how the left feels God
remember that Chris Hayes thought like
it's really going to be up to the voters
like the horror uh New York Times
reporting this morning on a brand new
New York Times Sienna poll revealing
quote an erosion of support for Mr Biden
among young and non-white voters upset
about the economy and the war in Gaza
leading to the following headline Donald
Trump leads President Biden in five
Battleground States in Wisconsin this is
showing Trump behind just by two you
recall he won Wisconsin in 16 Trump lost
it in 20 in Pennsylvania Trump up by
three in Arizona Trump up by
seven in Michigan Trump up by seven in
Michigan Trump is up by seven wow in
Georgia Trump's up by
10 10 my
God and in Nevada
trumps up by 12 points 50 to
38 my
God I got news for you Alvin brag Etc
it's not
working that's why it wasn't on the
Sunday shows and they've realized this
was a suicide mission it they thought it
would be a comicazi where they'd take
him out maybe hurt themselves a little
it was a suicide mission for them them
and we are getting closer and closer I
mean Summer's 2 weeks away once the
Summer's on we're into the conventions
and then the vote is here uh this was a
disaster it was a disaster of Epic
Proportions what they did with this law
fair and the American people love Trump
or hate him knew it it motivated people
in a way nothing Trump could have done
would have nothing Biden could have done
would have this was absolute Folly and
it's great to see the voters holding
them accountable I mean honestly this is
why you know I spend my summers at the
Jersey Shore it Jersey Shore is
definitely Pro Trump for sure I mean you
go to Atlantic City where he used to
have a casino and it's like every boat
is got the Trump Trump trump Trump trump
Trump trump but New Jersey typically
votes blue and you saw Trump went on his
you know he gets the weekends off from
his trial did you see the crowds they
estimated 100,000 I don't know whether
it was 100,000 or not it's it's
irrelevant what the actual number was
for sure it was tens of thousands look
at
this it's incredible for the listening
audience I mean it's it looks like a
stadium uh almost of people they're
dying to hear from him they miss him
because he's been kept off the campaign
Trail and they're angry for themselves
and for him I hope you like it Alvin
Bragg Jack Smith Fanny Willis because
you're going to get a lot more just like
it okay we'll be back in one moment uh
with Cory d'angelus on the nightmare
that is your child's School stand
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Megan school choice is gaining in
popularity gee I can't imagine why with
all the campus protests CRT Dei
Obsession and gender ideology craziness
uh that's just the tip of the iceberg
joining me now is one of America's most
prominent and influential school choice
Advocates and that's Corey d'angeles
Corey is a senior fellow at the American
Federation for children and author of
the new book which comes out tomorrow
the parent parent Revolution rescuing
your kids from the radicals ruining our
schools man Cory that is the perfect
title that's exactly the kind of book I
want to read you do they do need to be
rescued there are radicals who are
ruining the schools and perfectly you
dedicate the book to Randy we Garten
tell us
why yeah well the teachers unions
overplayed their hand by fighting to
keep the schools closed as long as
possible to secure Ransom payments from
taxpayers they were able to leverage the
school closures to call for more money
they got $190 billion in so-called Co
relief since March of 2020 and guess
what they overplayed their hand and they
sparked a parent Revolution because
families one saw that the school system
didn't care about them all that much and
families had to to to they were
desperate seeking Alternatives they were
trying to pay out of pocket for private
school tuition and fees while still
paying for the closed government schools
but the Silver Lining was that the
teachers unions planned backfired very
quickly when through remote learning
which we really should have just called
it remotely learning not a lot of
learning was going on but families got
to see what was happening in the
classroom and guess what we now have 11
states with universal school choice
Milton Freeman's Vision finally coming
to fruition I wish he were alive today
because now one in five states already
have school choice for everybody no
picking winners and losers everybody can
take their kids taxpayer education
dollars to the school that works best
for them that could be the public school
you know if you like your public school
you can keep your public school but if
not for whatever reason unlike with your
doctor you can take that money in the
form of a voucher or a scholarship to a
private Charter home uh or other type of
Educational Learning environment that
works for them so it's this is the
silver lining of the pandemic I I
mentioned a lot of the the hypocrisy and
just theatrics and fear longing in the
book and if you want to take Ted Cruz's
advice on the back he says ruin Randy wi
Garten's Day by reading this book I did
dedicate it to her I sent her a signed
copy my handwriting wasn't all that
great I apologize uh but it's because I
went to government school so you can't
really blame me the parent Revolution
the parent Revolution the parent
Revolution that's the name of it let me
tell you something I've often thought
while doing the show if I if I just if I
only cared about um there there's your
dedication your note to her if I only
cared about doing a fun and interesting
show I would have kept my kids in there
indoctrinating New York City schools
because it would have been non-stop
fodder for my program the insanity that
went on there but I actually love my
children and it seemed like actual abuse
to me and so as everybody knows I pulled
we pulled our kids from those schools
and found much better schools out here
in Connecticut well I checked in with
some of my friends at those same schools
still and my one dear friend has a son
who was in my younger son's grade so now
they're in fourth grade right so her son
she shared with me a little essay it was
like a little paragraph that her son had
to do about America and I am going to
read to you with her permission what her
son read she got it home and could not
believe her eyes okay he writes the
event I would teach people about is
slavery the reason I think it's
important to teach people about this
event is so that we can see that America
was built on black people not on whites
behind the scenes it's all blacks the
reason we have picked crops built houses
and America is because black people did
it all the only thing white people did
was take credit for work they didn't do
as a white person I stand with black
people all the
way this is a 10-year-old boy who is not
getting this from Mom and Dad
he's learning this at an institution
that in the third and fourth grade is
trying to indoctrinate the children to
hate the country and hate whites it's
very clear the only thing whites did was
take credit for it all she was shocked
and I don't believe they'll be at this
school next
year and look the taxpayers are SP are
spending about
$40,000 per student per year in the
government runs schools in New York City
and look the whole school system is
supposed to be uh meant for creating a
more cohesive Society creating more of a
a civic participation and tolerance of
others views this is the exact opposite
what we're seeing in our government
institutions today and that's why this
the parent revolution has been sparked
the schools aren't focusing on the
basics they're not focusing on math
reading and writing on education they're
indoctrinating kids in ways that are
antithetical to their family's values
and to the values of this very country
and so families are saying hey why not
give me half that money give me 20,000
or even 10,000 to take my kids somewhere
else so that I don't have to pay twice
once through the tax system and again at
a pocket for a private school or even to
home school at a fraction of the cost of
what they're spending in these
government failure factories how do you
measure it how do you how do you measure
it Cory do you measure it like by state
how many states now have school choice
like what what's our metric for Success
here the barometer of success you used
to be whether you had any form of school
choice at all whether that was for
low-income kids or special needs kids
the new barometer of success the new
measuring tape is whether you have
Universal school choice so we're not
picking winners and losers anymore
everybody pays for a public education
and everybody is guaranteed a publicly
funded education that doesn't have to
happen at a government school though and
now you have before 2021 no states did
this now we have 11 all red States
controlled by Republican legislatures uh
Arizona being one of the first and one
of the most recents uh being North
Carolina and Alabama this year as well
the momentum isn't subsiding and it's
because it's really popular of parents
in Arizona for example right when they
opened the website to sign up for the
scholarships the government website
broke down I mean so you can you can
make a a joke about it being a
government uh product that's why the
website broke down but it's also because
so many families flocked to the
Alternatives that we we now have 80
th000 families in just about a year
flocked to the school choice program in
Arizona it's popular with parents it it
shouldn't be a partisan issue if you
look at voters Republicans Democrats and
independents on the ground they support
school choice Nationwide with super
majority levels if you look poll after
poll after poll the problem is the
Democrat elected officials are a holy
owned subsidiary of the teachers union
Joe Biden's a hypocrite on school choice
he went to private he sent his kid to
private school and then he fights
against school choice for others pulling
the ladder up from behind himself
thankfully Donald Trump is a supporter
of school choice he would he would
support it and and fight for it as hard
as poss he did so when he was in office
last time but uh the problem is Randy
wein Garten who I dedicated my book to
and sent her a copy she's the head of
the American Federation of teachers
99.97% of their campaign contributions
in 2022 guess what they went to to the
Democrats not the Republicans it's a
it's a complex money laundering scheme
it ought to be illegal they use public
funds to Lobby against the public and
it's all just a a way to funnel money to
the Democratic party some Democrats are
defecting on the issue in elected office
but it's a very rare case for them to
Buck the party Trend and it's all about
money it's not about logic there's no
better example of this than in Illinois
which is just so disgusting when it
comes to children in school choice there
I never miss an Unity my audience knows
to play the video of those moronic
Chicago Teachers during the pandemic
while this children lowincome in great
need of Education were kept at home as
you point out not learning they were
dancing they were doing interpretive
dance to show us how these totally
able-bodied teachers could not possibly
go into the classroom with these little
germ carrying monsters let's watch
it make it make sense
safety is
essential oh my God it never gets old
keep our
students and our
teachers safe all right if these women
are 35 it's a lot they they could be in
their late 20s and yet they wouldn't
teach the children because they were
terrified of dying of covid they refused
Chicago's legendary for its bad public
schools and Illinois in general so tell
us why Illinois in your book you point
out is a particularly sad case it's
worse than we
knew yeah I mean they're totally
pathetic but they did show families
Nationwide how low the unions will go in
Chicago they were uh they had a board
member vacationing in Puerto Rico
thousands of miles away because but but
while railing against going back to work
in person somehow it was safe enough to
travel halfway across the the planet but
it wasn't safe enough to to go back to
work they they just wanted to on
vacation they used any excuse possible
in Illinois the unions were actually
successful last year in in getting rid
of a private school choice program
specifically for lowincome kids and
guess what the teachers union boss out
there Stacy Davis Gates she sent her own
kid to private school this year after
just a year before calling school choice
racist and calling private schools
segregation academies I mean I don't
know if that's not
hypocrisy I don't know what is and look
other families should have opportunities
too if she wants to send her kids to a
private school fine but she shouldn't
step in the in in in the schoolhouse
door and prevent other families from
escaping her unionized failure Factory
she knows it's not good enough for her
kids it should be it should be good
enough for other families to access
Alternatives as well they shouldn't be
trapped in her government run dumpster
fire we call the Chicago Public School
System it's so sad your book points out
that there it was in 2017 that the the
Republican Governor made a deal with the
Democratic controlled legislature to
pass a budget that included school
choice scholarship program for lowincome
students but there was a catch the
scholarship program was set to expire in
2022 unless they extended it they which
they did but only till
20123 that year more than 9,000 kids
were benefiting from the scholarships
but the unions don't care about the kids
they don't pay union dues you right so
they set about strong arming politicians
to oppose it and 2023 the legislature
failed to enact an expansion of the
program before the legislation the the
session ended and Governor JB pritzker
who I'm sorry is a villain in my view
he's just on the wrong side of
everything um did not appear to lift a
finger to help the families benefiting
from the scholarships and now the
scholarship program has expired most of
those poor kids deprived of those
scholarships will likely end up back in
Chicago's government schools were only 1
in 10 black students can read on grade
grade level only one in 20 are
proficient in math this is
9,000 families that wanted better for
their kids most of these families will
be minority who wanted to give their
kids a leg up who wanted to learn who
who were who had the attitude who were
ready to do the hard work and were
learning and they just pulled the rug
out from under them what they want to do
instead is that when those kids get to
be in junior or senior year in high
school totally unprepared for the
colleges to which they're applying to
just get rid of SAT scores to just
ignore gpas to forget all the learning
loss that they've had from K through 12
that they otherwise could have had had
this been still open and admit them to
the ivys or the junior ivys or what have
you then give them gentlemen's A's where
they're totally unprepared they're not
learning anything because they're
incapable of doing the math and the and
the English and then for them out on
society and pretend that they don't make
it it's racism that led to them getting
fired you can see the pipeline if they
actually cared about these black and
brown kids they would do something about
this I mean they were calling re
reopening schools racist the Chicago
Teachers Union in particular they put
out a tweet saying that the push to
reopen schools is rooted in sexism
racism and misogyny they threw every
buzzword at the wall to see what would
stick and they deleted it pretty quickly
after I replied to him with a CNN
Headline of all places that said that
the school closures disproportionately
hurt black students and it widened the
achievement Gap so it was the complete
opposite if anything it was more racist
to close the schools than to open them
and maybe they realized that but you had
them non-stop fearmongering with casets
and fake tombstones even in DC where I
was living at the time they placed fake
body bags outside the public school
offices implying that if you wanted to
have have them go back to work just like
everybody else just like the private
schools just like daycares everybody
else is literally going back to work
they were the only ones fear-mongering
saying that you're trying to actually
kill us if you want to I mean no one
that no one wanted that obviously and it
it was just so ridiculous in in Chicago
they were striking in
2022 I mean think about it two weeks to
slow the spread turned into two years to
flatten a generation of kids in leftist
cities like Chicago they they were even
calling for uh police free schools
Medicare for all a wealth tax to reopen
Los Angeles schools I mean this is the
same Union president in Los Angeles that
said that there was no such thing as
learning loss I mean if if if families
aren't awake now I don't know when they
will be the good news is we're seeing uh
a lot of evidence of a parent Revolution
where parents are pushing back at
Schoolboard meetings yes in some cases
they're having their mics cut off for
reading a Content that they don't deem
appropriate for the public setting it's
not age appropriate but you have these
same people uh who who say that
conservatives are Banning books they
actually called to burn my book a
teacher Union Executive Board member in
Wisconsin said that it's a great day for
a book burning party hasn't even read it
yet they're total Hypocrites and but
parents also got silenced or by the nsba
who sent a letter to the Department of
Justice or to the Biden Administration
implying that parents should be
investigated under the Patriot Act for
domestic terrorism they even had a
threat tag created by the FBI
specifically for parents protesting at
Schoolboard meetings but Megan the good
news is since then 26 states have
already left the nsba which means
parents if they band together they can
start a revolution and not just start it
they can win it in their specific States
as well by becom called the par
Revolution the parent Revolution by
Corey d'angelus and it's well worth your
read if you're a especially stuck in one
of these schools but even if you're not
like we're we're we love our schools now
but I care I care about other people's
students and children and the the Next
Generation and how they're coming up the
political indoctrination is just yet
another problem um that's everywhere
Libs of Tik Tok and CH raek she just
interviewed a woman about this here's
here she is explaining the problem in
sat 21 this is
CH Libs of Tik Tok has obtained a
disturbing lesson plan being used in the
Tualatin School District in Oregon
centered around Nazi Germany propaganda
and the Holocaust this lesson used at
tuity Middle School appears to display
political bias by equating former
president Donald Trump to that of Nazi
dictator Adolf Hitler on the last page
of the lesson students are asked to
guess from a collection of quotes which
ones originated from Donald Trump and
which ones originated from Adolf
Hitler it's unbelievable Cory but that's
not the outlier that happens a lot of
places that kind of rhetoric to children
on
politics I mean these clowns this is why
they're so afraid of families actually
getting aay in their kids education
because the left almost doesn't even
need to have kids anymore if they can
control the school system they can still
control the cultural direction of
America going forward if they're
indoctrinating other people's kids in
the government school system that's
about 50 million kids being churned
through a system for 13 years of their
lives for seven hours a day
conservatives can't win this battle just
by having more kids of their own they
need to be able to fight back at school
board meetings win Schoolboard races but
also fight for the right to take your
kids education dollars to another school
which gives parents conservative parents
more agency the school board won't want
to cut off your mic or call you a
terrorist if you have real leverage if
you can say hey I'm going to take my
money elsewhere I'm going to take my kid
elsewhere then they'll have an incentive
to listen to you in the public school
system so school choice can be a rising
tide that lifts all boats but it's also
not just important for your parents for
your family and your child it's also
important for the future of this country
because the left has infiltrated the
school system to turn kids into
socialists which will mean bigger
government in the future will mean more
of a leftward drift in the future but
that but I'm thankful for is that in
these 11 states so far since 2021 alone
a revolution has United and we're
winning this war that the unions have
waged on our kids for far too long by
bet people are starting to pay attention
Cory the parent Revolution is the name
of the book so what is it I mean I know
that the the unions you know as you
pointed out donate overwhelmingly to the
Democrats and then the Democrats just
feed the unions whatever they want but
like what is it what what's in it for
the unions why are they do why don't
they give two figs about the
children well because they're teach
Union not a kids Union and they don't
even treat the teachers all that well
either the ones that are doing a good
job the unions just serve as a way to
protect the lowest common denominator
they create rubber rooms in New York
City where they put teachers there who
can't even be around kids and then they
pay them you they spend millions of
dollars on this each year and for this
because they won't fire them I mean it's
just totally ridiculous but we now have
a kids Union they're called parents and
they've woken up they're never going
back to sleep they're never going to
unsee what they saw in 2020
and the parents Union can beat the the
teachers union because parents outnumber
the employees in the system and they
care and about their kids educational
needs more than anybody else certainly
more than bureaucrats sitting in offices
hundreds of miles away I think if
Democrats are smart however they'll stop
listening to the teachers union if
enough of the band together the teachers
unions will become powerless and they
won't have as much control over them in
the future we've seen some uh whiffs of
this this year in Louisiana for example
their house just passed Universal school
choice overwhelmingly 72 to 32 they
didn't need any Democrat votes but they
had 20% of their house Democrats vote
for the bill and so uh more Democrats
are starting to do the right thing on
the issue it's it's more of the
exception than the rule but you also had
in Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro when he was
running for governor he said he
supported private school choice he went
on Fox news last year saying he
supported school choice he ultim cave to
the unions that spent over $700,000 on
his campaign but my point in the book
and that what I'm telling you today is
that because there are some there the
the GOP has picked up the football and
and uh moved the ball forward as the
parents party that becomes politically
disastrous for Democrats to oppose
parental rights and education the more
it's a political winner for the GOP to
win on the issue in some in some polling
including from the Democrats for
Education reform in some States they're
finding that de that Democrats have lost
their double digigit advantage on the
issue of education and that poll from
the Democrats for Education reform they
also put out a press release saying
Democrats would be smart to to try to
come along on school choice too because
it's such a popular issue be tough
trying to get the go to break up with
the NRA it's it's a it's a tall order uh
listen thank you for writing the book
again it's called the parent Revolution
by Corey d'angelus the subtitle rescuing
your kids from the radicals ruining our
schools it's out tomorrow you can
pre-order it right now on Amazon Cory
thank you thank you so much Megan it's
amazing I mean and you got to get loud
you got to be the squeaky wheel I
remember when my uh son started last
year in seventh grade and we're at a
non-woke school they hired a new teacher
the teacher opened up the class by
saying this is uh an anti-racist ibram X
Kandy classroom all that matters is
offense not intent we called the school
and we were like the 50th family to call
everybody had called saying oh no and
guess what that teacher was corrected
and made clear too that this is not how
you're going to run this classroom and
it's no longer with the school be a
squeaky wheel use your voice even if
you're not used to it come back to the
show tomorrow because ruthless is here
can't wait for that we'll see you then
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