Bill Reacts to the Shocking Verdict in the Trump Hush Money Trial | NSN | May 30, 2024

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hey Bill O'Reilly here welcome to the no

spin news Thursday May 30th

2024 stand up for your country and

remember this day very historical day

and not in a good way so we're going to

walk you through uh the Trump

conviction which may be

overturned all right um and how it

happen more than why it happened I got

to wait until the jurors start to talk

before I can analyze what their point of

view is now to set this up in a fair way

because this is fair what we're going to

do tonight is fair on the others if you

watch television listen to the radio

whatever you're not going to get Fair

going to get partisan that's what you'll

get this is not going to be that all

right so Donald Trump convicted 34

counts of

falsifying business records low-level

beef not Watergate not Monica Lewinsky

in the white house not the teapot uh

Dome

scandal okay low-level beef did he do it

I don't know whether he did it or not I

mean it's certainly possible maybe

probable that they took the books in the

Trump organization paid off stormmy

Daniels and gave the inquir guy some

money or whatever absolutely possible

did I see evidence Beyond A Reasonable

Doubt no but I wasn't in the courtroom

as the 12 jurors were should this case

have been brought no particularly not

for a president and who's running for

reelection Donald Trump shouldn't have

been brought this is terrible for the

country I hope everybody understands

that there's nothing good about this

nothing and I'll get to that in a little

while

so when I heard the verdict of 34 guilty

counts on falsifying business

records I wasn't

surprised

because this

case in

Manhattan was presented in a way that

was very constricted to the

defense and we'll get we have Brett

tomman going to tell us what mistakes

the judge made because that's important

on appeal and you know this is going to

be appealed and Trump's not going to be

put in jail that's going to happen all

right he'll be able to carry on his

campaign perhaps the most important

thing is is something that's not going

to be reported tonight except by us

there is an an NPR poll out that asked

Americans whatever happens in the Trump

trial and it just came out today this

poll will it influence your vote on

Donald Trump and the vast majority of

Americans say

no and the ones that say yes it was even

some said I'm less likely to vote for

more likely it was a total wash and this

is

NPR I believe that's true so I think uh

tr's poll numbers will go down in the

next few weeks but once summer kicks in

as I analyzed this week and people are

paying a massive amount of money for

food and restaurants and vacations and

gas and everything else this is going to

be a distant memory come September and

there are no other trials that are going

to come up before election day all right

so let's begin with Donald Trump

himself go this was a disgrace this was

a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who

was

corrupt it's a rigged trial of

disgrace they wouldn't give us a venue

change we were at 5% or

6% in this District in this area this

was a rigged disgraceful trial and the

real verdict is going to be November 5th

by the people and they know what

happened here and everybody knows what

happened here

you have a s respect da and the whole

thing we didn't do a thing wrong I'm a

very innocent

man and it's okay I'm fighting for our

country I'm fighting for our

constitution our whole country is being

rigged right now this was done by the

Biden

Administration in order to wound or hurt

an opponent a political opponent and I

think it's just a disgrace and we'll

keep fighting we'll fight till the end

and we'll win because our country's gone

to hell we don't have the same country

anymore we have a divided mess we're

nation in Decline serious decline

millions and millions of people pouring

into our country right now from prisons

and from mental institutions terrorists

and they're taking over our country we

have a country that's in big trouble but

this was a rigged decision right from

day one with a conflicted judge who

should have never been owed to try this

case never and we will fight for our

constitution this is long from over

thank you very much why shoulds

V all right that was 90 seconds that was

shorter than I thought I mean Trump you

know uh usually is uh more loquacious

than that but what happens now is that

Trump and his lawyers appeal now

remember New York state is different

than the city so they're going up and

the appell division

probably won't

overturn uh the verdict but once they

get into the highest court in New York

that's the court that overturn the

Weinstein verdict because they said the

trial wasn't fair which is exactly what

the Trump lawyers are going to go for

just so you know the process now I

believe that Trump might be able to get

this if he loses in New York state and

all of Courts into the federal system

but everybody's telling me I'm crazy to

believe that so I might I'm not a lawyer

but it looks to me like you know you can

get in under a few statutes here but be

that as a man I don't want to be too SPC

too much skepticism in our reporting

here okay so now the judge has to

pronounce a sentence and if it's

Draconian and it prevents uh Trump from

campaigning boom it's going to go right

to the Supreme Court that's where it'll

go I don't think Mar Chan wants to do

that but I again I'm guessing here so

what I assume will be um Trump will uh

be released after marchan pronounces

whatever sentence he pronounces uh

remember these are lowlevel

beefs okay um and then he's free on

appeal to what usually happens 90% of

the time unless you're a dangerous

criminal run around knifing people and

there in New York City you'll be let out

but okay so what should Americans think

about this here's what I think about it

not as a journalist or historian I'll

get to that in a

moment I'm really disturbed about the

level of

hatred that is rising in

America so when you have more than 70

million people voting for Donald Trump

in 2020 what the 70

million not many of those people are

going to be very happy with this and

they're going to start to

blame okay the scene of The Godfather

where Don Coro sitting around a table

with all the other mafioso and he goes

if lightning should hit my youngest son

I'm going to hold some of the people in

this room accountable okay there's that

Vengeance in the air it's in the air

this isn't Obama Romney Obama

McCain this is not I was in the middle

of those campaigns this is rank hatred

on both

sides and that's going to grow and

that's bad for the

country so what Mar Chan did was he

played the progressive Manhattan

political game made

mistakes so Brett tommen very fair man

you know him we use him a lot here um he

obviously

followed this trial very very closely so

I asked him earlier today what were the

key mistakes that the judge made that

could reverse this whole thing on appeal

R tape let's bring in a guy who much

smarter than me on this and I hate to

admit that um a man who looks exactly

like us Grant okay there he is Brett

tomman former US attorney for Utah

coming to us from Salt Lake City you

know I think Grant would and you you

guys are uh kind of sympatico with the

uh with the beard and things like that

very good and the horses yeah um so I

want to know uh the biggest mistake

judge Maran

made in this trial in your opinion

because the judge's

mistakes are going to lead the appeal

process

correct yes

absolutely um you know I I would I would

say in this order first he forgot one of

the most important uh rules of evidence

rule 403 which the judge is supposed to

use to determine what comes into

evidence and what doesn't and it just

you know expressly says nothing unfairly

prejudicial to the defendant or

irrelevant to the

defendant the entire testimony of you

know most of the testimony of Stormy

Daniels most of the testimony of Cohen

uh would have been thrown out by I would

say 99% of the judges under rule 403 the

other thing that wa wait wait wait wait

why would it have been thrown out by

most judges when they were talking about

what what wasn't

relevant so all of the details of the of

the um sexual encounter with Stormy

Daniels highly prejudicial irrelevant to

what the elements of the of the CL

counts were that the government had to

prove they merely they could have taken

the high road on this but I think they

did want to take body shots to to Trump

and show him as a you know an

undesirable human being right and that

hasn't been proven that's still an

alleged encounter and the judge let it

in and it didn't really go to uh the

crimes that were charged okay and then

next what else did marchan do that could

lead to a successful appeal for

Trump there is a um there's a rule that

judges follow to air on the side of

allowing the defendant to put on the

case that they want to put on so what

that means is they give them far more

latitude when it comes to

cross-examination they give them far

more latitude to presentation of their

own Witnesses and the evidence they want

to bring in you don't see typically Bill

a judge that is sustaining objections

before the question is even asked on on

examination of the defenses Witnesses

like they like they did did um you don't

see them limiting the witnesses like

like the judge did that was a very big

issue that they wouldn't let in an

individual that's very familiar with

with federal election law to indicate

whether or not the statute would cover

the even the allegations that are being

raised in this case and and that should

have been allowed and and most judges

would have because they don't want to be

reversed on appeals so there you go um

no Motion in that analysis is the way we

want it

sentencing by the way is July 11th okay

so it's a good distance away it shows

you that there's no urgency on the part

of the New York City authorities I mean

this isn't a heinous crime that's what

it shows you sensing could be

tomorrow now in the meantime what's

going to happen marchan is going to be

calling every judge in the state going

you know look at out like that be it's

Cy a for him cover your you

why now what should happen in this

country what is the best thing for the

United States of America I wrote a

message of the day on Bill O'Reilly

decom and I really hope you go every

morning and read it it's not

complicated

tomorrow President Joe Biden who will

return to the White House for the first

time this week to see the Kansas City

Chiefs okay before he sees the football

team Super Bowl winners he should pardon

Donald Trump of any and all

crimes

okay and then the next day

Saturday he can pardon Hunter

bot and he can say in both cases

enough all of this is not helping our

Republic this elevates Biden

okay it puts him into Gerald

Ford category you remember Ford pardon

Nixon for Watergate crimes which were a

thousand times

worse than falsifying business records

and so were this the Clinton situation

on Lewinsky was much

worse the breach that whole thing the

lying to the American people about it

much worse than falsifying business

records

and I'm sure you would agree if you

don't bill at Bill oy.com let me know

but come

on and when you read confronting the

presidents and see what our past Chief

Executives

did the something is

minuscule so Biden should say

enough if Biden did that he might very

well win in

November because people would go whoa

he's putting the country above himself

yes he's got a motive with Hunter okay

but we all know what Hunter did we all

know there's no subterfuge about Hunter

Biden in the gun

charge and the uh other stuff okay now

the money thing that gets a little more

more dicey there but he's not charged

there yet charged with income tax

evasion so Biden will not do my

suggestion which by the way I haven't

seen anywhere else in this country I'm

bragging but that's why you watch and

listen to

me he should issue a blanket pardon on

Donald Trump tomorrow and a selected

pardon on Hunter Biden on

Saturday then that takes away a lot of

the Animus from the debate in

June because Biden's going to march in

there having done Trump a favor

whether Trump knows it or not I don't

know and if TR if Trump goes at Biden

you can just make a joke out of it say

well you know try to do something nice

you know how you do

it but Biden will never do it and the

reason is he doesn't put his country

first he doesn't he puts himself first

you can make that argument about Donald

Trump too you could make

it but can you

imagine if if tomorrow Biden said enough

of this I don't want Americans hating

each other because there may be violence

could

be I know when Robert dairo went out

there dairo wanted to punch somebody's

lights out and vice

versa and now with this Trump conviction

the magga people the most of the 70

million people voted for

Trump they believe this whole thing is

is BS Just As Trump said they firmly

believe

it I believe it and I'm not a Maga

person this case would have not been

brought in 45 out of the 50 states

wouldn't have

happened the feds

declined they could have brought

it this is such a miscarriage of justice

but we don't have Justice anymore in

America particularly in New York State

cuz I live here I know there is no

justice in this state none contracts

don't matter ideology rules the

bench it's who you are and not what you

did it's

crazy poor people have no

chance if you're attacked by somebody

and Accused by somebody you better have

hundreds of thousands of dollars to

defend

yourself because if you don't you're not

even get a lawyer that's how it is in

New York state so we got a lot of

problems in this country and this thing

in Manhattan and just for a second think

about Putin she the mullers in Teran

Hamas think about them all they're just

laughing at us falsifying business

records Putin stolen hundreds of

billions of dollars he's the richest man

in the

world she will have you execute Ed in 20

minutes falsifying business

records so some Shakedown doesn't get

public before the election is that what

you're telling me they're laughing at

us so I know Biden's not going to do it

if he did I would gain a measure of

respect for him even though he's the

second worst president in history next

to James

banan I would if he did it just like

Ford

Ford put his whole presidential campaign

on the

line by pardoning Nixon but it was the

right thing to

do to stop the madness that emanated out

of the Vietnam War in

Watergate and Ford was a hero for doing

it as you'll see and confronting the

presidents but Biden I'd be

shocked

shocked now now he better be careful

Biden because he's got to make a

statement about this or says he's going

to using the White House as a backdrop

you got to be

careful okay because the appeal process

is still in place this could be reversed

totally on appeal and Trump would be

then not guilty keep that in

mind bid got to be careful but Biden

it's a whole different world there again

I covered Romney and Obama I covered

McCain and Obama it wasn't this kind of

hatred on both part they they hate each

other I'd be surprised if there's a

handshake on that debate coming up in

June probably will be but boy they Lo

each other anyway summing up the verdict

is a verdict nothing anybody can do

about it Trump lawyers will appeal

sentencing July 11th march on probably

not going to do anything outrageous in

the sentencing because that would make

the appeal easier and give the Trump

lawyers an Avenue to go to the feds if

he does something you know obviously

vindictive to keep Donald Trump off the

campaign Trail because that is basically

interfering in our electoral process our

Democratic process I want to hear from

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