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ever seen there wasn't one andorian

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hello and welcome to uh review today

we're going to talk about Star Wars a

topic we've been avoiding talking about

for five to seven years

now and it never goes away you know that

me

uh somehow Palpatine has returned do you

know that yes I know that yes I I I I

kept seeing things like somehow

something has returned right it's a you

know this Jay it's a meme right yeah and

I saw then I saw GIF with Oscar Isaac as

Po damaran and he said and it had a

quote somehow Palpatine has returned and

I'm like what is that

from and then I suddenly remember that

Star Wars part nine revenge of

Skywalkers had Palpatine in it yeah yeah

I'm like oh that's what that means did

he actually say somehow Palpatine has

returned you don't and then I was like

Palpatine returned in that oh yeah it's

in the opening crawl all I remember is

they were riding horses over the the

outside of a star destroyer that's all I

remember Andor is very refreshing

compared to that okay let's talk about

Andor we're to talk about Andor and

we're here because um I I was like I I

want to watch a new show I haven't

watched yeah um I'm going to start

something new and then I kept seeing

like uh uh people saying Andor was good

so I was like okay I'll give it a shot

I'll watch Andor for the record for

somebody who just like stumbles upon

this video like 5 years after we've

released it we have now made this what

like a year after Andor released how

long ago did Andor actually come out I

don't I I know a

Ahsoka is a thing um that came out

somewhat recently yeah uh was this

before or after it be

W

before I I don't know yeah I honestly I

don't know we watched Obi-Wan we talked

about

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that and everyone was like if you want

to watch something that's Star Wars but

not Star Wars at all all watch Andor I'm

like what does that mean it's is that

good it's it's kind of right it's more

it's not I don't know that it's say it's

not Star Wars at all it's more just

they're finally expanding upon the world

of Star Wars which if you're going to

make a a Immortal franchise that will

never die and you're going to keep

pumping out installments this is the

kind of World building Disney should

have been doing 10 years ago I was going

to say this is the World building that

the prequels should have been yeah um

but I don't think George Lucas is smart

enough to write dialogue this good in a

darken screening room George Lucas is

using a laser pointer to show the 45

computer animators who are working on

his new Star Wars movie just how he

wants a big battle scene to look um I I

I liked Andor a lot and I'm I'm really I

really wanted to get your opinion and to

talk to you about it because the Star

Wars

Enigma is is fascinating to me now the

sheer

inconsistency of the shows and movies in

terms of of target audience and quality

level is is like

astounding I found a website that listed

all the Star Wars products not including

books comics and video games yeah uh in

Chron chronological order chronological

order okay it starts off with the young

Jedi Adventures a show for babies yeah

followed by The Phantom

Menace so I guess young Jedi Adventures

chronologically would be when Jedi were

were there Jedi in The Phantom Menace

yeah yeah yeah there were Jedi in The

Phantom Menace yes Jedi Adventures would

be young Jedi the probably younglings

running around with lightsabers I don't

know it's but it's for babies

The Phantom Menace I don't know if the

phantom menace was after they all got

killed off or not that's the Revenge of

the Sith yes that's Revenge of the Sith

there's three trilogies now it's hard to

keep track of this um attack of the

Clones follows Phantom Menace then in

between um that is the Clone Wars the

movie then the Clone War Ser movie yeah

then the yeah then the series then

Revenge of the Sith then we go to the

bad

batch which is an a CGI animated series

I don't know if it's for kids or

grown-ups I I assume it's for next is

solo the Solo movie followed by the

Obi-Wan Kenobi TV show then we're back

to kids with Rebels then Andor followed

by Rogue one uhhuh well yeah and uh

Andor season two I think will be

squeezed in between these two it would

have to be it's certainly not taking

place after Rogue one right yeah I me it

might make for an interesting series if

it's just like if it's just like you

know like 10 hours it's just a shot of

like a smoldering ing corpse pile of

dust pile of dust floating in space

Andor floats in

space it's just the description for

every episode andor's corpse floats in

space andor's ashes get uh condensed

into a kyber crystal and he gets he gets

put inside of a lightsaber now does his

soul possess the lightsaber a socks yeah

yeah and it ends up on young Jedi

Adventures at some point and the babies

have

it oh this sucks I just want to be

dead Okay Rogan is followed by a New

Hope followed by Empire followed by Jedi

then the

Mandalorian then the book of Boba Fett

uh and I don't know how the book of Boba

Fett happens after Return of the Jedi

cuz Boba Fett fell into the sarlac pit

monster and got eaten I'm sure there's

an explanation he climbs out for how he

climbs out he gains 70 lbs while

floating around in that belly I I had to

eat all of its stomach contents he had

to eat his way out okay okay okay and he

has developed a taste for sarlac meat I

want to say I've heard from sources that

in the Mandalorian we see Boba Fett

climb out of the sarlac pit monster so

that he could be in the book of Boba

Fett whatever then uh after the book of

Boba Fett is a a

aoka so then after that is resistance

I don't know what that is that's

literally the first time I've heard of

that one uh then the is that released

yet I don't know the force awakens The

Last Jedi rise of Skywalker then Star

Wars Visions bo bo

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boom let's talk about Andor

yeah uh what a what are your

impressions uh it's enjoyable I think

it's very solid it's not my favorite

thing in the world but it's very solid I

think it's excellent World building and

Cassian Andor is probably the least

interesting character in the show and

it's probably it's probably even just a

misname show it should just been like

called like Star Wars rebellion or

something or or Star Wars heroes that's

a lame name but from from what I

gathered from it it's the the the Empire

and then people that are characters that

are doing their own little bits to start

to form the Rebellion or be heroic

against it themselves all the way from

man Matha MMA down to you know Cass

Andor Andor from the yeah and so they

cut they give basically all these

characters equal screen time mon mothma

is uh man mothma is a of course a

senator she's very very wealthy um but

she has that you know that that sense

that something is is going very wrong

yeah and there's there's very uh there's

some injustice happening and she's

secretly working with um stellen

Skarsgard who is kind of a mystery

character but he he has that great

speech in one of the later episodes what

have you the what have you given of

speech Yes who's also working with a

different kind of hero the the uh the

Imperial

uh double agent or or spy yeah who's

risking his neck to send him information

then you have um all those characters

that do the heist um even down andor's

mother the little robot I mean

everyone's doing their part even the

Imperial characters are good like I

really like the uh ISB lady and even the

ISB director guy who just seems entirely

reasonable and professional he's just

doing his job well he's just that guy

just screams Star Wars Imperial villain

yes he was born to play that

role that's a bit of a stretch the the

the inner workings of the Empire and

yeah I I I like the idea of World

building although it's almost an

impossible task because you're talking

about how to form a Galactic Empire and

the logistics of that and in the first

movie Star Wars it didn't matter it's a

fairy it's it's a fairy tale it's people

like to think Star Wars is science

fiction it's not it's fantasy with space

paint it's a simple Story the the the

the hero uh defeats the the evil emperor

he slays some dragons on the way but

hero's journey the world isn't important

but you're going to go on and do 50

years worth of additional material and

Cassian and Andor is the kind of [ __ ] we

need now we need to flesh out this world

yeah or do we and see that's that's like

the the contradiction or conundrum that

I wanted to discuss with you because

that's what Lucas wanted to do it the

prequels yeah but he did it badly I know

that's the thing is like I have a a

slightly like if my appreciation for the

prequels just went up just a tick

because after the the the original

trilogy which is a I don't know a hero's

journey an Adventure film a you know

conquer the bad guy simple fairy tale

what do you do he wanted to tell the

backstory but he I don't think he was

he's a good enough writer it's like

sketching with a pencil and suddenly

somebody gives you paint and it's got

you have all these colors it's like

watching a painter you just you know you

put colors you put colors it's not done

until it's done that guy is a cyber

character he's not

real the guy that was jumping I mean

I've seen those movies I know he wasn't

a good enough writer to do that okay and

if you if you release something like

Andor Star Wars is back over a month ago

all right get out your lightsabers you

just may have noticed that Star Wars the

latest episode opens nationally at

Midnight's night the hype surrounding

this movie has been overwhelming now the

question is will it deliver they're

about to open the doors here just a few

minutes and people are revved up Star

Wars is back everybody and then Andor

comes on the screen this is

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awesome

is that how you've been presenting

yourself to the

world it would explain a great

deal and it's like the most depressing

like miserable thing you've ever seen

that wouldn't work so he wanted to tell

the story of how the Empire came about

all while having a little kid and a

cartoon rabbit and poopy jokes and a

wacky adventure in it it you know it's

like oil and water it this is how you

should have done the prequels but it's

like a fork in the road do you go for

space adventure SCI sci-fi fantasy about

you know guy saving the princess from

the evil bad guy who's he has a galactic

space Empire or do you you make

something like Game of Thrones where you

if this really dark political Intrigue

and all this dialogue and this person's

betraying this person this person's a

spy and that cuz that's what Andor is

MHM one is for adults one is for

children and I guess or or the young at

heart let's say that the Star Wars the

stupid well no ST the original Star Wars

Trilogy isn't for stupid it's it's for

everybody I'm kidding um but what which

way do you go with it and I get maybe

it's a a good thing that the Star Wars

franchise has so

many uh facets I guess or age ranges

like uh I'm a baby and I want to watch

baby Jedi Adventures I'm a 48-year-old

man and I want to watch this the most

depressing thing I've ever seen Oh I

thought you were going to say I'm a

48-year-old man and I want to watch Jedi

baby Adventures that's too that too um

and then it's like okay little Tommy

Tommy's eight and Tommy wants to watch

some Star Wars let's put on

Andor

I I'd liked anything space when I was a

kid I might have actually liked this

when I was a kid or at least some of the

at least some of the more exciting story

arcs in this cuz there's like there's

like three or four separate mini movies

in this yeah yeah yeah and that's that's

what I I liked is that it just it

changes up its uh tone quite a bit not

the tone but the locals and scenarios

he's um uh he's he's a thief on like a

planet that's controlled by a

corporation and it's not even really

controlled by the Empire it's controlled

by like a corporation yeah that operates

within the Empire it starts off as as a

a noirish murder mystery then it goes to

a heist movie then it goes to a prison

escape movie yeah yeah the opening I I

think that's what grabbed me was that

kind of first episode or two when he's

searching for his sister but he's in a

he's in an adjunct planet of the Empire

a a corporate Planet it's like a company

town almost that does mining I don't I

don't know it's like always raining and

there's like a security company that

maintains the planet it's so it's not

the Empire they're like the corporate

cops the corporate the corporate own

police force yeah and and the uh Andor

gets like harassed by these two guys he

goes to like a

brothel right off the bat's like okay

tell Timmy to watch baby Jedi instead he

goes to a brothel and he's trying to

find his sister and um these guys rough

him up and then he ends up killing them

both and then um that great scene I love

that scene with the head of the

corporate cops this case appears to Bear

all the Hallmarks of what I like to

describe as regrettable misadventure but

they were murdered no they were killed

in the fight this guy this actor was on

a show called

I must investigate this and he's really

like um and I want to talk about his

character Arc cuz that was the most

important thing in the whole show for me

and it let me down well yeah yeah it's

like an anti- character Arc it it was

that was the most disappointing and

maybe it'll

change in season two no he's he's he's

gone too far into insane territory to

fix his character I think well let's

just talk about it because I might

forget to talk about it later yeah

that's fine no we can talk about it and

I want to see if you agree with me on

this cuz watching this I'm like what is

his what is his Arc and he is um he

parallels Andor almost

precisely uh but on opposite ends right

Andor is a like a he grew up he was like

on a alien planet as a kid and he got

rescued um by Smugglers or um what

thieves I don't know yeah

scavengers a better term for it yeah

scavengers um his mother and his father

they would be his adopted parents cuz uh

he was like a tribal kid on a planet

that uh in in Star Trek terms it's I get

the feeling his Planet would have been

pre-warp yes definitely um and so he

grew up poor scrap scrapping around you

know breaking the law blah blah blah

blah blah meanwhile Kyle Soler character

car s Karin Law and Order guy he gets

really involved D in Justice he wants

Justice uh someone killed those two guys

even though they're scummy guys hanging

out of brothel Justice and duty duty and

Justice and he he goes to this Mission

which turns into a

disaster and he gets fired essentially

or demoted kicked out he ends up back at

home in his mother's house that's kind

of great at first they wore thin on me

after like Eight Episodes but he he gets

sent to corusant his mother lives in

like a basement apartment in corusant

which was awesome and the view out of

his childhood bedroom window was like

miserable you remember that like I don't

remember the view but it's it's it's

noteworthy cuz it's just nothing but

just like concrete and and just is just

ugly and there her apartment is so dingy

and small and she's nagging him you know

it it was almost comical I thought it

was going to I I could to be honest I

thought it was going to end with him

just murdering I I I I I thought that's

where they were

going what is it you'll be asking

for someone who'll take you on S setting

the bar high are we Uncle har will know

what's best he uh she's like I'm going

to hook you up with Uncle so and so and

he can get you a job and then he he

shows up and it's like this giant like

office uh what what is it the department

of just

standards a sea of um cubicles

yeah the the Star Wars equivalent of

cubicles so he has like a mundane like

nothing job and he's he's like angry and

then he gets interrogated by Dedra Dedra

that's it Dedra Miro she's like she's

working her way up the ladder too her

and that other guy are like stabbing

each other in the back to try to get the

approval of the head guy she's working

her way up the Imperial like law

enforcement ladder CIA the intelligence

intelligence yeah um and she

interrogates him and he's like he's like

uh you want Cassie Endor I want to get

him too blah blah blah blah I could work

with you I can help you and she doesn't

want his help because she wants all the

credit M um and she basically tells him

to [ __ ] off and he starts stalking her

he wants to do the right thing for a

couple episodes he's trying to find

Andor himself he's doing and he he his

friend from the police force or the

security Force calls him he's like I

found out

he's working the shittiest job in the

world indeed been a bit rugged for me

lately but you know the he's set on

finding Andor he never says like I'm

going to kill him or and then I thought

like Andor lives with his mother this

guy lives with his mother they're sort

of like on different ends and I really

thought at the very end he was going to

betray the blonde dear dear dearra dear

Mira Dedra Mira or whatever I thought he

was going to betray her or or or maybe

at the last minute save Andor because

he's all about Justice there comes a

time when

the the risk of doing

nothing becomes the greatest risk of

all and the Empire has done

nothing to provide that Justice you know

what I mean yeah yeah there's a will

murder are running free because of

corruption and laxity in the corporate

Authority I was punished for trying to

uphold the law do my job maintain Public

Safety it almost seemed like he would

have a character a complete 180 where he

realized that the real Justice being

done in the galaxy is done by the rebels

it it would have fit thematically too

because in this show a lot of the people

who are currently Rebels used to be part

of the imperial system right former

Stormtroopers

uh CIA guys who are moles now yeah cuz

he did everything he could the correct

way and the real Injustice that was

happening within the Empire or within

the corporate structure that he was in

um the the the hierarchy whatever you

want to call it and um he was not able

to achieve that and so I would think he

would um empathize or relate to Andor

and I just pictured this ending where

the the the blonde woman has the gun at

him you know and Andrew oh don't shoot

me and then and then you know the camera

pans over and there he is pointing the

gun at her I I I was going to let you

help me track him down but

no you you inhibit Justice You're a

tyrant this Show's very very maybe not

so maybe not so um Grand or cliched yeah

not maybe not literal that's literally

what happened but um uh him him

switching sides would have been a nice

treat because he was he was hunting

Andor I just didn't want I'm mad and I

want to kill him like Revenge kind of

thing because of what happened I thought

it would have given his character some

depth like he he re he realized the

reason he was hunting Andor was for the

wrong reasons you know what I mean yeah

have you modified your

uniform perhaps

slightly Pockets piping and some light

tailoring because I mean he he starts

off almost almost likable because he is

the only one that cares about doing his

job properly yeah it turns out he's

incompetent at it but he at least cares

about doing things the right way he's an

interesting character in that way which

is why I I kind of suspected they were

going to do something like that where he

was going to be either a good guy all

along behind the scenes or have that

turn but well he tried he tried

everything he could do by the book book

uh by procedure by the law within the

imperial system and it did nothing back

for him they just basically said [ __ ]

you we don't want your

help there's a lot of uh uh moral gray

area that you didn't get with the

original trilogy or the prequels or most

things like B mothma is making some

compromises MH to get this Rebellion

thing off I mean she sells out her own

[ __ ] daughter to a crime Lord yeah

because she needs money mhm uh uh AIS uh

Luan what's his name like like Luan Luan

he's he he is very morally great yes

like he he he gives Ander this speech

like don't you want to fight them come

on and then like you know the next day

after the job is done he puts out the

order yeah kill him mhm but he's he's

doing what he thinks he has to do

and even Andor you know yeah he kills

the the guy from the you ever watch the

bear that show no the guy the guy who um

he told him the story about his brother

who had the the apple farm or something

he was killed by the Empire he was lying

oh yeah he was just really there to

steal money and then um he's like come

on come on come on with me Andor we'll

split it and Andor just murders

him cuz he couldn't after that after he

he could not be trusted after that after

he exposed himself and couldn't turn his

back to him yeah or else you know so

it's sort of self-defense but in the the

same way it's just sort of like

coldblooded murder same with the guy in

the very first

episode you mentioned World building the

idea of how to form a Galactic Empire is

is to me like kind of hard to hard to

wrap your head around and you would need

like 12 TV series to do it how do you

start a galactic

umpire new

chapter you you have the Phantom medice

you you have electrocuted your own face

with your laser fingers okay which has

turned you into a monster ah and you

just threw Samuel L Jackson out the

window uh how do you start a Galactic

Empire you just you take I mean it's

it's happened in history it's happened

in [ __ ] Rome the one thing that was

interesting in the one idea I should say

in the prequels was

Palpatine uh

creating uh I guess you'd call it

military-industrial complex right like

the need

for uh constant buildup of Army and

machine machines of War based on a

threat an everpresent threat right that

he has manufactured so that he can have

his own personal Army ex and so he he

created the Clone War um that he devised

so that there would be a need for the

Senate to approve building millions of

starships and creating clone troops and

all that kind of stuff so you have to

have the power first

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power you do that you do that step by

step one little bill I need this this

power to do this act to enforce this

aspect of society right oh we need to

monitor the phone lines now because of

this terrorist act so and here's a new

law where I have control over the phone

and the communication you just you do it

bit by bit until you have full control

over everything but then but it's

different on a galactic

scale you do you know this from

experience well you have you have

planets other I guess I don't know the