What We Expect from WWDC and Google I/O
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the upcoming developer conferences for Google and Apple, with a focus on anticipated AI advancements. It speculates on Apple's strategy with Siri and AI, considering their emphasis on user privacy and how it may impact the development of AI assistants. The conversation also touches on Google's Gemini AI and its potential role in Apple's ecosystem, as well as expectations for AI features across various devices and operating systems.
Takeaways
- 😀 Google and Apple are expected to highlight AI in their upcoming developer conferences, with both taking different approaches.
- 📅 Jaws hinted at something 'absolutely incredible' with AI, suggesting significant announcements from both companies.
- 🍏 Apple's invitation hints at AI developments, possibly involving Siri, reflecting long-standing rumors about Apple's AI ambitions.
- 🤔 Despite Apple's recent emphasis on being an AI company, there's skepticism about their claim due to their traditional focus on privacy and data security.
- 💡 The conversation touches on the evolving definition of AI, suggesting that what's now considered AI was previously known as machine learning.
- 🔍 Apple might face a challenge in balancing its strict privacy standards with the demands of developing competitive AI services.
- 🤖 The discussion speculates on how Apple and Google might implement AI in their products, including potential enhancements to Siri and other services.
- 👀 Attention is given to how Apple's privacy stance could limit its AI capabilities compared to Google, which has vast data from users.
- 💬 There's curiosity about whether Apple will openly acknowledge Google's role in its AI efforts, particularly regarding the rumored Gemini project.
- 🎉 The script concludes with playful speculation on the future of AI announcements and how they might be presented at tech conferences.
Q & A
What are the two developer conferences mentioned in the transcript?
-The two developer conferences mentioned are Google I/O and Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference.
What does the speaker expect to be the common theme at both Google I/O and Apple's WWDC?
-The speaker expects AI to be a common theme at both Google I/O and Apple's WWDC.
What is the speaker's opinion on Apple's recent claims about being an AI company?
-The speaker finds it interesting that Apple has only recently started to label themselves as an AI company, despite having advanced neural engines on their Apple Silicon chips for years.
What is the speaker's speculation about Apple's AI strategy?
-The speaker speculates that Apple might be waiting for certain categories to become popular and polished before incorporating them into their products, such as AI features in the iPhone.
What is the speaker's issue with the current iPhone keyboard?
-The speaker feels that the current iPhone keyboard's auto-suggestions and auto-correct have become worse, and they provide an example of mistyping a word from the movie Dune.
How does the speaker view the relationship between user data and AI effectiveness?
-The speaker argues that to have the most helpful AI, the AI needs to know everything about the user, which conflicts with Apple's policy of minimal data collection and maximum privacy.
What is the speaker's prediction about Apple's potential use of Google's AI?
-The speaker predicts that Apple might use Google's AI for cloud-based AI services while keeping as much AI processing as possible on the device to maintain user privacy.
What does the speaker think about the potential announcement of Google's Gemini at Apple's WWDC?
-The speaker believes that it's unlikely for Apple to mention Google or Gemini during their WWDC, as they would prefer to focus on their own AI advancements.
What is the speaker's view on the future of Google Assistant and Gemini?
-The speaker theorizes that Google might eventually merge Google Assistant and Gemini into one unified service, powered by the advanced Gemini model.
How does the speaker anticipate the use of AI buzzwords in the industry?
-The speaker expects that the use of AI buzzwords will eventually decline as it becomes a standard industry norm, similar to what happened with machine learning and other tech buzzwords.
Outlines
📅 Google and Apple Developer Conferences
The paragraph discusses the upcoming developer conferences for Google and Apple, highlighting the anticipation for their announcements on AI advancements. It delves into the expectation of different styles of AI presentations from both companies, with a particular focus on Apple's rumored AI features, such as an improved Siri based on Transformer models. The discussion also touches on Apple's historical reticence to explicitly label their technologies as AI, despite incorporating machine learning and neural engines into their products. The paragraph speculates on whether Apple will adopt a more open stance on AI at their conference, potentially revealing new AI-driven features for the iPhone and other devices.
🤖 AI in Apple's Ecosystem
This paragraph examines the potential integration of AI within Apple's ecosystem, especially in light of the company's emphasis on user privacy. It raises questions about how Apple can develop a powerful AI assistant without compromising its privacy policies, given that large language models typically require extensive user data. The conversation explores the possibility of Apple using Google's AI advancements, such as Gemini, to enhance their services like Siri without directly mentioning Google on stage. It also speculates on the potential applications of AI in Apple's product lineup beyond Siri, including the Apple Watch and iPad.
📱 Apple's AI Strategy and Device Updates
The paragraph focuses on Apple's potential strategies for incorporating AI into their devices, considering both local AI capabilities and cloud-based AI services. It discusses the possibility of Apple maintaining a local AI approach to ensure fast and private user experiences, while also outsourcing some cloud-based AI tasks to partners like Google. The conversation touches on the potential for Apple to announce multiple AI-driven features across their range of products, including updates to tvOS, watchOS, and macOS. It also briefly mentions the anticipation for Vision OS updates, which could bring new features and improvements to developers and users alike.
🌐 Google IO and Pixel Device Rumors
This paragraph shifts focus to Google's upcoming IO conference and the leaks surrounding the potential release of a new Pixel device. It discusses the strategy behind Google's device naming and the possibility of a mid-cycle refresh. The conversation also touches on the speculated updates to Google's AI assistant, Gemini, and the potential for it to be integrated more seamlessly with Google Assistant. The paragraph ponders whether Google will make announcements related to Apple's AI developments, possibly hinting at collaborations or industry partnerships. It concludes with speculation on the frequency of the term 'AI' being used during the Google IO conference.
🎤 AI Buzzwords and Industry Norms
The final paragraph contemplates the evolving use of AI buzzwords within the tech industry. It suggests that the term 'AI' may eventually become as commonplace and less buzzworthy as other tech terms like 'machine learning' and 'Internet of Things'. The discussion includes predictions on how both Apple and Google might position themselves in relation to AI advancements, with Apple potentially making significant AI announcements if they have been reserved in the past. The paragraph ends with a playful bet on whether Google will use the term 'AI' more frequently than in previous years, and the potential for AI-related memes or catchy phrases to emerge from the conference.
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Keywords
💡developer conferences
💡AI
💡Siri
💡Transformers
💡neural engine
💡machine learning
💡privacy
💡Google Assistant
💡Gemini
💡Vision OS
Highlights
Google and Apple announcing their developer conference dates for the summer, with expectations of AI being a major focus.
Jaws tweets about the incredible AI advancements expected at the developer conferences, with emphasis on the word 'incredible'.
Discussion on Apple's long-awaited AI developments, particularly in relation to Siri and the potential for a Transformer-based overhaul.
Apple's historical reticence to use the term AI, despite having advanced neural engines on their Apple Silicon chips.
The distinction between machine learning and AI, and how Apple's previous work might be rebranded as AI in light of current trends.
Expectations for Google I/O and WWDC to reveal new AI features, potentially beyond just virtual assistants like Siri and Google Assistant.
The potential for AI to be integrated into various Apple devices, such as the Apple Watch and iPad, and the speculation on the form it might take.
The debate on whether Apple will mention Google or Gemini during their conference, and the implications of such a partnership.
The potential for Google to announce a merger of Google Assistant and Gemini, streamlining their AI offerings.
Speculation on how Google might frame their AI advancements at I/O, possibly focusing on multimodal capabilities and distancing from the term AI.
The prediction that Google will emphasize the term AI more than Apple during their respective conferences.
Discussion on the potential for AI to become a normalized term like machine learning and IoT, losing its buzzword status over time.
The anticipation of AI-related updates for Vision OS at WWDC, including improvements for developers and the ecosystem.
Leaks and expectations for new Google Pixel devices, and the strategy behind releasing different models at different price points.
The potential for Google to tease partnerships with industry leaders, possibly including Apple, during their I/O conference.
The possibility of Google and Apple taking different approaches to AI, with Apple focusing on local AI for privacy and Google leveraging cloud-based AI.
Transcripts
well you know speaking of totally
different
worlds uh two very different developer
conferences invites went out like that
that was pretty solid I feel like Google
six Google and apple both announced uh
their developer conference dates this
summer Google IO and worldwide developer
conference being
apples um we expect very different
things at each of these and I guess but
also not really do we well we expect
similar things in different styles we
expect AI from both of them yeah well
maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but
Jaws tweeted it's going to be absolutely
incredible with both of those words
capitalized a in absolutely and I an
incredible Capital oh he thinks we're 12
so yeah AI probably we all got that but
I think yeah we all kind of been waiting
for this AI thing from Apple for forever
and it's this the invite is the Siri
colors and like we've been hearing all
these murmurings about you know chat GPT
and open AI but also Gemini and Google
and like what is Apple actually going to
do with AI on the iPhone even lately
I've seen um I've had just random
mentions of AI from Apple where they're
like oh yeah we've been an AI company
the whole time like we've had the most
advanced neural engine on our Apple
silicon chips for years now and I'm like
yeah you could I guess you could just
start saying that now you're not wrong
but you haven't been saying it like that
until just recently so it's kind of
interesting I would argue they are
wrong it's you could you could Silo in
an argument where they're like
technically right but also my argument
is that an incredible amount of things
that people are branding as AI now were
just machine learning that has been
happening for a very long time and it's
funny cuz Apple had never Apple never
says AI right and I made a whole video
about how Apple never says Ai and then
just recently they started being like Oh
yeah we oh yeah that's us AI for sure we
said it we've been doing it yeah I know
we say machine learning and neural
engine and all that stuff but like yeah
this is are they just going to suddenly
say AI a thousand times on stage this
year a dub dub I think they just wait a
really long time to make sure that
something is act like a new category is
actually sticking before they associate
themselves with it it's every feature in
the iPhone pretty much it's like
all of the new features have been out
already and then they just like waited
till it was definitely popular polished
the hell out of it and popped it out
yeah popular or like offered real real
utility to their customers because I
think there are plenty of things that
you could Off You could argue were way
way early in other phones but didn't
really offer utility and then it took
extra years for people to figure out oh
this is actually good for people yeah um
and there's so many little examples I'm
very very interested in what besides
like better Siri like a fully revamped
like Transformer based Siri which I
really hope exists uh they're going to
add because they're I really don't think
they're going to do like AI wallpapers
and all of that kind of stuff right
there's lots of those little things that
others have done first that aren't
necessarily that useful like AI
wallpapers but then there are some
things that I think are obvious wins
like well they've already done the
keyboard they've already done slightly
better Auto the keybo by the way I feel
like has made the keybo worse in I
actually haven't noticed anything
different for me it feels like the auto
the auto suggestions and auto correct
have just gotten way worse if I'm not
typing a word that's like a commonly
used like this morning I was trying to
type the word atres and my phone just
like I mean was not that's not the
phone it's from Dune it's from it's a
dune thing okay I don't think any
keybard would naturally get that one
well no no no no no it's it's not like
it was trying to
like it would it's not like I would
finish the word correctly and then it
would do it like if CU it does the
predictive what letter is coming next
yeah so if it if it really struggles to
know like it's almost the the touchcreen
is useless especially on my little tiny
mini phone yeah true true at trades it's
that is not a weird thing I'm just
saying that's just slightly above fata
for me just slightly above it I just
don't think I would know how to spell it
yeah but also like Transformers are are
trained on the Comon it of how often
words are used around other words it's
in the most popular movie right now
right now Andrew help me out I was gonna
make a joke who in here has seen Dune I
still haven't seen either of them no
haven't seen it no one besides Ellis has
seen Dune here wow Adam seen Dune one
Dune one oh was a trus in it a trades
yes but my argument is that they're
fictional names and characters and
places absolutely can't people to know
are typing them into their iPhones yeah
but that's not how this is trained mhm
it's not it's not real time it's trained
on like an existing data set of common
words uh really yeah there like it's
probably up to like 2022 or something
yeah and also other people so there is a
mechanism in the new iOS 17 keyboard
that learns based on the way that you
type right but it doesn't learn based on
the way that other iPhone users Ty so
does this mean I'm a fake fan of you
just have to start typing that I'm
clearly not typing aades you got well no
that's a great Point actually though
because I feel like that's Apple's whole
problem thus far is that they don't have
that giant data set of all their users
is why they're probably going to use
Gemini that's the whole argument they
don't like their whole thing is security
and we don't scrape your data and we
don't scrape other people's data and
give it to other people and with large
language models they're kind of boned
yeah I want to point I want to paint
this I want to paint this as clearly as
possible in order to have a really and
we I've phrased this many different ways
but in order to have the smartest
possible most useful AI like think of a
think of a real human assistant who's
going to help you out in order for that
person to be the most helpful for you
they need to know everything about you
right if they're going to start
scheduling your flights they need to
know oh do you like window seats do you
like usually fly out of this airport do
you like United or Delta they need to
know everything about you and so if
you're knowing everything about someone
you have a lot of data on them and and
minimal privacy but Apple's whole stance
and their whole policy is to keep as
little data as possible none if they can
help it and to know nothing about you
and to keep everything private as much
as possible which is great and very
Noble and super it's a big reason why a
lot of people like the iPhone but now
that means they by definition I think
cannot build the most helpful assistant
that knows everything about you yeah and
so how does Apple get around this like
Apple's Google's out here knowing
everything about you and giving you all
the
Poss yeah before you even know you want
that it's like I know you're about to
wake up so I'm going start helping you
out with the thing you're going to eat
for breakfast like it knows you super
well and so they're able to offer all
this helpful stuff which people like do
they partner do they compromise on that
that that policy that they have to let
Google in the door to collect or or to
at least use the data they already have
maybe they don't collect on the iPhone
but to use the they're going to do
Google has collected so much much data
over time and I think Apple's just going
to be like we're going to use that and
is that data a one toone match of what
they need or do iPhone users maybe use
their phones slightly differently than
the all the other users they already
have I don't know if that's going to
come up it seems more focused around
large language models I would guess yeah
and like natural language processing so
they'll probably use it for Siri mhm I
don't really see them using it for a lot
of other stuff which is why I'm actually
very curious cuz if this whole wwc is
supposed to be focused around AI
I imagine they're going to like for
multiple of their products say we added
some sort of AI to this but what else
besides Siri could they add AI to that
would make like a large Tang reminders I
was going to say the rumor did say like
iOS 18 right features so it was plural
so there are potentially many different
things in there that it could be added
to I guess like and when ja says
absolutely incredible it assumes that
that's going to be like the theme of the
yeah yeah so they'll probably PL of I'm
I'm super interested in both of these
happening and they being a connection
are they going to talk about each other
during their confence like apple has to
talk about Google no really you think
they're just going or do you think they
just say Gemini I don't think they're
even going to say you don't think
they're going to say gem at all I would
say that's probably part of the deal is
that they don't have to mention Google
at all it would be really impressive if
they never mentioned Google if they
literally partner this is gonna be a way
for him bet no no this well before we
get to it though did they mention go
when Google became the default search in
Safari did they talk about that at all
so long ago was it ever not the default
search I think they immediately I think
it was pretty immedi yeah interesting
and that was like back in 2008 okay yeah
when very different company now almost
not worth mentioning when they Apple
announced RCS was that in an event or
just that they were that was was random
press release relase it was I don't
think it was even a press release I
think it just went out and yeah they
seated it they seated a quote to a
journal yeah it wasn't even a press
release I it will be really interesting
I I know that these companies look like
they copy each other's feutures a lot so
when I'm trying to predict what they're
going to do I'm literally looking at
what's just happened with the past
couple Google events and even Samsung
like Circle to
search kind of an interesting feature
right something's on my screen I want to
just like quickly search that thing
online and bring you s results that
could be interesting or maybe IM message
you start planning a trip in a group
chat maybe this little assistant clippy
bot comes down and starts helping you
the trip it doesn't have to be clippy
cuz it's Apple not Microsoft but you
know I'm looking at other parallel
feature yeah just Craig's head floats
down it looks like you're trying to plan
yeah that's that's my thought process
for trying to figure out what other than
Siri Apple could be doing with AI yeah I
mean considering they update pretty much
every OS for all of their devices
hopefully we're going to see something
coming to like the watch and
iPad hod that was going to my question
because remember Google they announced
Gemini with like three different
versions I forgot which one was supposed
to be on the phone Pico or something
Nano thank um Apple has watches they
have earbuds like there's so many other
things computers yeah what is it going
to be like is it just plugged into I
would say Gemini Nano gets put on the
Apple watch on the on the watch see I
was going to say Nano gets put on the
phone or something similar to it you
know like probably but then what goes on
on the watch there's multiple features
coming to multiple devices I just don't
see it being a onetoone fix to like
other things yeah I don't know I'm well
there's also okay so there there's a
distinction between like local Ai and
cloud-based AI as well yeah the local
stuff is the best experience usually
it's the fastest like the live
translations if you just download the
language model or whatever you can do
live translations on the device that's
usually awesome which and apple was
pretty last WWDC they mentioned a lot of
local learning like being Incorporated
to so many different things so is this
like a an aspect of they're going to
keep the local stuff themselves and then
Outsource the kind of I actually believe
that the rumor when we talked about this
I think two weeks ago maybe this
happened the rumor was specifically that
Apple was Outsourcing it to Google for
the cloud-based AI stuff I forget if it
was that but it I remember the article
very much feeling like Gemini wasn't
taking over all of AI that it was
features and that this is going to be
kind of split in I it's mostly going to
be for the cloud stuff okay yeah so yeah
could be interesting and then of course
Google IO uh which can we make the BET
first oh yeah sorry do we is it just do
we think they mention Google or Gemini
do we think that the word Google is said
on stage or or Gemini Google or gemini
or do we think like I don't think they
say either you don't think either what
do you think wow that's a tough one I
think if we really think they're
partnering and and using I don't I don't
think they actually will be partnering
so I'm going to go with no think you
think that the rumor is false I think
yeah really I think they're going to try
to do as much on device as possible and
that's going to be the the hill that
they die on and they're going to want to
over time be able to bring more and more
things on device but they might just
take a stance against going to the cloud
for these slow experiences cuz Siri is I
mean that's Siri's bad like that's
people I mean I don't know if they know
how bad Siri is but I think that that's
more likely that they just try to keep
everything local and on device so they
don't send your information somewhere
and and hopefully that doesn't get
breached well but but you can
incorporate Gemini into things where
Gemini is pulling from all the other
sources it's learning from but Apple
doesn't have to put your stuff into it
right yeah I don't think that Apple will
use a local Gemini model I think they'll
only use Gemini for cloudbased AI that
they need the cloud for I think if they
do use Gemini then they've got to say it
at least once I don't think they're
going to say it at at all okay let's
assume that they will use Gemini okay I
think that they will say the name I'm
going to say they're not going to say
the I'm going to say they're going to
say Google and Gemini I don't think
they're gonna say either I I'm I'm
saying it as a I think it'll be funny if
they do and I'm gonna say screw it let's
let's I think they're going I like this
bet that's a good bet okay that's a good
bet okay speak Google also we're just
gonna we're just gonna skip Vision
OS that's a whole another thing is like
we expect Vision Pro updates probably at
WWDC yeah but we don't know what they
will be I was actually thinking about
that last week it was like it's kind of
exciting that now we get these whole big
updates for the Vision Pro as well yeah
that's kind of cool like cuz usually
they introduce iPhone features that we
didn't even think of and we're like that
makes a lot of sense that's really dope
yeah and is that going to happen for
Vision Pro or they they're probably just
going to introduce the things that
people have been complaining about I
would would be nice which would be nice
my guess is at WWDC we're going to see a
lot of especially this first time around
it's only been out for a few months it's
going to be like a bunch of different
progr that helps developers create
inside of it better where us three won't
have any idea what any of that really
means they'll definitely highlight like