What We Expect from WWDC and Google I/O

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2 Apr 202423:58

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the upcoming developer conferences for Google and Apple, with a focus on anticipated AI advancements. It speculates on Apple's strategy with Siri and AI, considering their emphasis on user privacy and how it may impact the development of AI assistants. The conversation also touches on Google's Gemini AI and its potential role in Apple's ecosystem, as well as expectations for AI features across various devices and operating systems.

Takeaways

  • 😀 Google and Apple are expected to highlight AI in their upcoming developer conferences, with both taking different approaches.
  • 📅 Jaws hinted at something 'absolutely incredible' with AI, suggesting significant announcements from both companies.
  • 🍏 Apple's invitation hints at AI developments, possibly involving Siri, reflecting long-standing rumors about Apple's AI ambitions.
  • 🤔 Despite Apple's recent emphasis on being an AI company, there's skepticism about their claim due to their traditional focus on privacy and data security.
  • 💡 The conversation touches on the evolving definition of AI, suggesting that what's now considered AI was previously known as machine learning.
  • 🔍 Apple might face a challenge in balancing its strict privacy standards with the demands of developing competitive AI services.
  • 🤖 The discussion speculates on how Apple and Google might implement AI in their products, including potential enhancements to Siri and other services.
  • 👀 Attention is given to how Apple's privacy stance could limit its AI capabilities compared to Google, which has vast data from users.
  • 💬 There's curiosity about whether Apple will openly acknowledge Google's role in its AI efforts, particularly regarding the rumored Gemini project.
  • 🎉 The script concludes with playful speculation on the future of AI announcements and how they might be presented at tech conferences.

Q & A

  • What are the two developer conferences mentioned in the transcript?

    -The two developer conferences mentioned are Google I/O and Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference.

  • What does the speaker expect to be the common theme at both Google I/O and Apple's WWDC?

    -The speaker expects AI to be a common theme at both Google I/O and Apple's WWDC.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on Apple's recent claims about being an AI company?

    -The speaker finds it interesting that Apple has only recently started to label themselves as an AI company, despite having advanced neural engines on their Apple Silicon chips for years.

  • What is the speaker's speculation about Apple's AI strategy?

    -The speaker speculates that Apple might be waiting for certain categories to become popular and polished before incorporating them into their products, such as AI features in the iPhone.

  • What is the speaker's issue with the current iPhone keyboard?

    -The speaker feels that the current iPhone keyboard's auto-suggestions and auto-correct have become worse, and they provide an example of mistyping a word from the movie Dune.

  • How does the speaker view the relationship between user data and AI effectiveness?

    -The speaker argues that to have the most helpful AI, the AI needs to know everything about the user, which conflicts with Apple's policy of minimal data collection and maximum privacy.

  • What is the speaker's prediction about Apple's potential use of Google's AI?

    -The speaker predicts that Apple might use Google's AI for cloud-based AI services while keeping as much AI processing as possible on the device to maintain user privacy.

  • What does the speaker think about the potential announcement of Google's Gemini at Apple's WWDC?

    -The speaker believes that it's unlikely for Apple to mention Google or Gemini during their WWDC, as they would prefer to focus on their own AI advancements.

  • What is the speaker's view on the future of Google Assistant and Gemini?

    -The speaker theorizes that Google might eventually merge Google Assistant and Gemini into one unified service, powered by the advanced Gemini model.

  • How does the speaker anticipate the use of AI buzzwords in the industry?

    -The speaker expects that the use of AI buzzwords will eventually decline as it becomes a standard industry norm, similar to what happened with machine learning and other tech buzzwords.

Outlines

00:00

📅 Google and Apple Developer Conferences

The paragraph discusses the upcoming developer conferences for Google and Apple, highlighting the anticipation for their announcements on AI advancements. It delves into the expectation of different styles of AI presentations from both companies, with a particular focus on Apple's rumored AI features, such as an improved Siri based on Transformer models. The discussion also touches on Apple's historical reticence to explicitly label their technologies as AI, despite incorporating machine learning and neural engines into their products. The paragraph speculates on whether Apple will adopt a more open stance on AI at their conference, potentially revealing new AI-driven features for the iPhone and other devices.

05:02

🤖 AI in Apple's Ecosystem

This paragraph examines the potential integration of AI within Apple's ecosystem, especially in light of the company's emphasis on user privacy. It raises questions about how Apple can develop a powerful AI assistant without compromising its privacy policies, given that large language models typically require extensive user data. The conversation explores the possibility of Apple using Google's AI advancements, such as Gemini, to enhance their services like Siri without directly mentioning Google on stage. It also speculates on the potential applications of AI in Apple's product lineup beyond Siri, including the Apple Watch and iPad.

10:03

📱 Apple's AI Strategy and Device Updates

The paragraph focuses on Apple's potential strategies for incorporating AI into their devices, considering both local AI capabilities and cloud-based AI services. It discusses the possibility of Apple maintaining a local AI approach to ensure fast and private user experiences, while also outsourcing some cloud-based AI tasks to partners like Google. The conversation touches on the potential for Apple to announce multiple AI-driven features across their range of products, including updates to tvOS, watchOS, and macOS. It also briefly mentions the anticipation for Vision OS updates, which could bring new features and improvements to developers and users alike.

15:04

🌐 Google IO and Pixel Device Rumors

This paragraph shifts focus to Google's upcoming IO conference and the leaks surrounding the potential release of a new Pixel device. It discusses the strategy behind Google's device naming and the possibility of a mid-cycle refresh. The conversation also touches on the speculated updates to Google's AI assistant, Gemini, and the potential for it to be integrated more seamlessly with Google Assistant. The paragraph ponders whether Google will make announcements related to Apple's AI developments, possibly hinting at collaborations or industry partnerships. It concludes with speculation on the frequency of the term 'AI' being used during the Google IO conference.

20:04

🎤 AI Buzzwords and Industry Norms

The final paragraph contemplates the evolving use of AI buzzwords within the tech industry. It suggests that the term 'AI' may eventually become as commonplace and less buzzworthy as other tech terms like 'machine learning' and 'Internet of Things'. The discussion includes predictions on how both Apple and Google might position themselves in relation to AI advancements, with Apple potentially making significant AI announcements if they have been reserved in the past. The paragraph ends with a playful bet on whether Google will use the term 'AI' more frequently than in previous years, and the potential for AI-related memes or catchy phrases to emerge from the conference.

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Keywords

💡developer conferences

Developer conferences are events where companies invite developers to announce new products, technologies, and updates. In the context of the video, Google I/O and Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference (WWDC) are mentioned as significant events where AI advancements are expected to be discussed.

💡AI

Artificial Intelligence (AI) refers to the simulation of human intelligence in machines that are programmed to think and learn like humans. In the video, AI is a central theme, with discussions on its implementation in consumer technology, particularly in relation to Google and Apple's products.

💡Siri

Siri is a virtual assistant developed by Apple that uses voice recognition and natural language processing to answer questions, perform tasks, and interact with users. In the video, Siri is discussed as a potential area for AI improvement by Apple.

💡Transformers

In the context of AI, Transformers are a type of deep learning model that's particularly effective for processing and understanding natural language. The term is used to refer to a potential new technology that could be implemented in Siri to improve its performance.

💡neural engine

A neural engine is a type of hardware designed to accelerate machine learning tasks, such as image recognition and natural language processing. In the video, it is mentioned as a component of Apple's silicon chips that has been facilitating AI-related tasks for years.

💡machine learning

Machine learning is a subset of AI that involves the use of algorithms and statistical models to enable computers to learn from and make predictions or decisions based on data. In the video, the term is used to discuss the evolution of AI and its applications in various technologies.

💡privacy

Privacy refers to the ability of an individual or group to seclude themselves, or information about themselves, and thereby express themselves selectively. In the context of the video, privacy is a significant concern for Apple when it comes to AI and data collection.

💡Google Assistant

Google Assistant is a virtual assistant developed by Google that is primarily powered by natural language processing to recognize speech, understand context, and respond appropriately. It is mentioned in the video as a counterpart to Apple's Siri and an example of AI integration in consumer technology.

💡Gemini

Gemini, as discussed in the video, refers to a large language model developed by Google that is used to power AI features and improve the capabilities of virtual assistants like Google Assistant. It is a specific example of AI technology that could potentially be integrated into Apple's ecosystem.

💡Vision OS

Vision OS is not explicitly defined in the video, but it can be inferred as an operating system or platform related to augmented reality (AR) or virtual reality (VR), given the context of discussing updates and features. In the video, it is mentioned as one of the many operating systems that Apple might update during the WWDC.

Highlights

Google and Apple announcing their developer conference dates for the summer, with expectations of AI being a major focus.

Jaws tweets about the incredible AI advancements expected at the developer conferences, with emphasis on the word 'incredible'.

Discussion on Apple's long-awaited AI developments, particularly in relation to Siri and the potential for a Transformer-based overhaul.

Apple's historical reticence to use the term AI, despite having advanced neural engines on their Apple Silicon chips.

The distinction between machine learning and AI, and how Apple's previous work might be rebranded as AI in light of current trends.

Expectations for Google I/O and WWDC to reveal new AI features, potentially beyond just virtual assistants like Siri and Google Assistant.

The potential for AI to be integrated into various Apple devices, such as the Apple Watch and iPad, and the speculation on the form it might take.

The debate on whether Apple will mention Google or Gemini during their conference, and the implications of such a partnership.

The potential for Google to announce a merger of Google Assistant and Gemini, streamlining their AI offerings.

Speculation on how Google might frame their AI advancements at I/O, possibly focusing on multimodal capabilities and distancing from the term AI.

The prediction that Google will emphasize the term AI more than Apple during their respective conferences.

Discussion on the potential for AI to become a normalized term like machine learning and IoT, losing its buzzword status over time.

The anticipation of AI-related updates for Vision OS at WWDC, including improvements for developers and the ecosystem.

Leaks and expectations for new Google Pixel devices, and the strategy behind releasing different models at different price points.

The potential for Google to tease partnerships with industry leaders, possibly including Apple, during their I/O conference.

The possibility of Google and Apple taking different approaches to AI, with Apple focusing on local AI for privacy and Google leveraging cloud-based AI.

Transcripts

00:02

well you know speaking of totally

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different

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worlds uh two very different developer

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conferences invites went out like that

00:11

that was pretty solid I feel like Google

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six Google and apple both announced uh

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their developer conference dates this

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summer Google IO and worldwide developer

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conference being

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apples um we expect very different

00:27

things at each of these and I guess but

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also not really do we well we expect

00:32

similar things in different styles we

00:34

expect AI from both of them yeah well

00:36

maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but

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Jaws tweeted it's going to be absolutely

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incredible with both of those words

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capitalized a in absolutely and I an

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incredible Capital oh he thinks we're 12

00:52

so yeah AI probably we all got that but

00:55

I think yeah we all kind of been waiting

00:57

for this AI thing from Apple for forever

01:01

and it's this the invite is the Siri

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colors and like we've been hearing all

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these murmurings about you know chat GPT

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and open AI but also Gemini and Google

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and like what is Apple actually going to

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do with AI on the iPhone even lately

01:16

I've seen um I've had just random

01:20

mentions of AI from Apple where they're

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like oh yeah we've been an AI company

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the whole time like we've had the most

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advanced neural engine on our Apple

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silicon chips for years now and I'm like

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yeah you could I guess you could just

01:32

start saying that now you're not wrong

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but you haven't been saying it like that

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until just recently so it's kind of

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interesting I would argue they are

01:40

wrong it's you could you could Silo in

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an argument where they're like

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technically right but also my argument

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is that an incredible amount of things

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that people are branding as AI now were

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just machine learning that has been

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happening for a very long time and it's

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funny cuz Apple had never Apple never

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says AI right and I made a whole video

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about how Apple never says Ai and then

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just recently they started being like Oh

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yeah we oh yeah that's us AI for sure we

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said it we've been doing it yeah I know

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we say machine learning and neural

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engine and all that stuff but like yeah

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this is are they just going to suddenly

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say AI a thousand times on stage this

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year a dub dub I think they just wait a

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really long time to make sure that

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something is act like a new category is

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actually sticking before they associate

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themselves with it it's every feature in

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the iPhone pretty much it's like

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all of the new features have been out

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already and then they just like waited

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till it was definitely popular polished

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the hell out of it and popped it out

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yeah popular or like offered real real

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utility to their customers because I

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think there are plenty of things that

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you could Off You could argue were way

02:46

way early in other phones but didn't

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really offer utility and then it took

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extra years for people to figure out oh

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this is actually good for people yeah um

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and there's so many little examples I'm

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very very interested in what besides

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like better Siri like a fully revamped

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like Transformer based Siri which I

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really hope exists uh they're going to

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add because they're I really don't think

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they're going to do like AI wallpapers

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and all of that kind of stuff right

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there's lots of those little things that

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others have done first that aren't

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necessarily that useful like AI

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wallpapers but then there are some

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things that I think are obvious wins

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like well they've already done the

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keyboard they've already done slightly

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better Auto the keybo by the way I feel

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like has made the keybo worse in I

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actually haven't noticed anything

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different for me it feels like the auto

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the auto suggestions and auto correct

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have just gotten way worse if I'm not

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typing a word that's like a commonly

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used like this morning I was trying to

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type the word atres and my phone just

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like I mean was not that's not the

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phone it's from Dune it's from it's a

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dune thing okay I don't think any

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keybard would naturally get that one

03:57

well no no no no no it's it's not like

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it was trying to

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like it would it's not like I would

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finish the word correctly and then it

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would do it like if CU it does the

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predictive what letter is coming next

04:07

yeah so if it if it really struggles to

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know like it's almost the the touchcreen

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is useless especially on my little tiny

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mini phone yeah true true at trades it's

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that is not a weird thing I'm just

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saying that's just slightly above fata

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for me just slightly above it I just

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don't think I would know how to spell it

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yeah but also like Transformers are are

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trained on the Comon it of how often

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words are used around other words it's

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in the most popular movie right now

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right now Andrew help me out I was gonna

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make a joke who in here has seen Dune I

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still haven't seen either of them no

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haven't seen it no one besides Ellis has

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seen Dune here wow Adam seen Dune one

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Dune one oh was a trus in it a trades

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yes but my argument is that they're

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fictional names and characters and

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places absolutely can't people to know

04:59

are typing them into their iPhones yeah

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but that's not how this is trained mhm

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it's not it's not real time it's trained

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on like an existing data set of common

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words uh really yeah there like it's

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probably up to like 2022 or something

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yeah and also other people so there is a

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mechanism in the new iOS 17 keyboard

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that learns based on the way that you

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type right but it doesn't learn based on

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the way that other iPhone users Ty so

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does this mean I'm a fake fan of you

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just have to start typing that I'm

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clearly not typing aades you got well no

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that's a great Point actually though

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because I feel like that's Apple's whole

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problem thus far is that they don't have

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that giant data set of all their users

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is why they're probably going to use

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Gemini that's the whole argument they

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don't like their whole thing is security

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and we don't scrape your data and we

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don't scrape other people's data and

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give it to other people and with large

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language models they're kind of boned

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yeah I want to point I want to paint

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this I want to paint this as clearly as

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possible in order to have a really and

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we I've phrased this many different ways

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but in order to have the smartest

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possible most useful AI like think of a

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think of a real human assistant who's

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going to help you out in order for that

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person to be the most helpful for you

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they need to know everything about you

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right if they're going to start

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scheduling your flights they need to

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know oh do you like window seats do you

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like usually fly out of this airport do

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you like United or Delta they need to

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know everything about you and so if

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you're knowing everything about someone

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you have a lot of data on them and and

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minimal privacy but Apple's whole stance

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and their whole policy is to keep as

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little data as possible none if they can

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help it and to know nothing about you

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and to keep everything private as much

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as possible which is great and very

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Noble and super it's a big reason why a

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lot of people like the iPhone but now

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that means they by definition I think

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cannot build the most helpful assistant

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that knows everything about you yeah and

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so how does Apple get around this like

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Apple's Google's out here knowing

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everything about you and giving you all

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the

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Poss yeah before you even know you want

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that it's like I know you're about to

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wake up so I'm going start helping you

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out with the thing you're going to eat

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for breakfast like it knows you super

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well and so they're able to offer all

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this helpful stuff which people like do

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they partner do they compromise on that

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that that policy that they have to let

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Google in the door to collect or or to

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at least use the data they already have

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maybe they don't collect on the iPhone

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but to use the they're going to do

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Google has collected so much much data

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over time and I think Apple's just going

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to be like we're going to use that and

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is that data a one toone match of what

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they need or do iPhone users maybe use

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their phones slightly differently than

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the all the other users they already

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have I don't know if that's going to

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come up it seems more focused around

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large language models I would guess yeah

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and like natural language processing so

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they'll probably use it for Siri mhm I

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don't really see them using it for a lot

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of other stuff which is why I'm actually

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very curious cuz if this whole wwc is

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supposed to be focused around AI

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I imagine they're going to like for

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multiple of their products say we added

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some sort of AI to this but what else

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besides Siri could they add AI to that

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would make like a large Tang reminders I

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was going to say the rumor did say like

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iOS 18 right features so it was plural

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so there are potentially many different

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things in there that it could be added

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to I guess like and when ja says

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absolutely incredible it assumes that

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that's going to be like the theme of the

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yeah yeah so they'll probably PL of I'm

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I'm super interested in both of these

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happening and they being a connection

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are they going to talk about each other

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during their confence like apple has to

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talk about Google no really you think

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they're just going or do you think they

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just say Gemini I don't think they're

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even going to say you don't think

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they're going to say gem at all I would

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say that's probably part of the deal is

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that they don't have to mention Google

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at all it would be really impressive if

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they never mentioned Google if they

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literally partner this is gonna be a way

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for him bet no no this well before we

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get to it though did they mention go

08:59

when Google became the default search in

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Safari did they talk about that at all

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so long ago was it ever not the default

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search I think they immediately I think

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it was pretty immedi yeah interesting

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and that was like back in 2008 okay yeah

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when very different company now almost

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not worth mentioning when they Apple

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announced RCS was that in an event or

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just that they were that was was random

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press release relase it was I don't

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think it was even a press release I

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think it just went out and yeah they

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seated it they seated a quote to a

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journal yeah it wasn't even a press

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release I it will be really interesting

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I I know that these companies look like

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they copy each other's feutures a lot so

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when I'm trying to predict what they're

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going to do I'm literally looking at

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what's just happened with the past

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couple Google events and even Samsung

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like Circle to

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search kind of an interesting feature

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right something's on my screen I want to

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just like quickly search that thing

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online and bring you s results that

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could be interesting or maybe IM message

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you start planning a trip in a group

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chat maybe this little assistant clippy

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bot comes down and starts helping you

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the trip it doesn't have to be clippy

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cuz it's Apple not Microsoft but you

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know I'm looking at other parallel

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feature yeah just Craig's head floats

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down it looks like you're trying to plan

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yeah that's that's my thought process

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for trying to figure out what other than

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Siri Apple could be doing with AI yeah I

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mean considering they update pretty much

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every OS for all of their devices

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hopefully we're going to see something

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coming to like the watch and

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iPad hod that was going to my question

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because remember Google they announced

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Gemini with like three different

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versions I forgot which one was supposed

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to be on the phone Pico or something

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Nano thank um Apple has watches they

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have earbuds like there's so many other

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things computers yeah what is it going

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to be like is it just plugged into I

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would say Gemini Nano gets put on the

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Apple watch on the on the watch see I

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was going to say Nano gets put on the

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phone or something similar to it you

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know like probably but then what goes on

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on the watch there's multiple features

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coming to multiple devices I just don't

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see it being a onetoone fix to like

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other things yeah I don't know I'm well

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there's also okay so there there's a

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distinction between like local Ai and

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cloud-based AI as well yeah the local

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stuff is the best experience usually

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it's the fastest like the live

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translations if you just download the

11:17

language model or whatever you can do

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live translations on the device that's

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usually awesome which and apple was

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pretty last WWDC they mentioned a lot of

11:25

local learning like being Incorporated

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to so many different things so is this

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like a an aspect of they're going to

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keep the local stuff themselves and then

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Outsource the kind of I actually believe

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that the rumor when we talked about this

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I think two weeks ago maybe this

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happened the rumor was specifically that

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Apple was Outsourcing it to Google for

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the cloud-based AI stuff I forget if it

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was that but it I remember the article

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very much feeling like Gemini wasn't

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taking over all of AI that it was

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features and that this is going to be

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kind of split in I it's mostly going to

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be for the cloud stuff okay yeah so yeah

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could be interesting and then of course

12:01

Google IO uh which can we make the BET

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first oh yeah sorry do we is it just do

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we think they mention Google or Gemini

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do we think that the word Google is said

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on stage or or Gemini Google or gemini

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or do we think like I don't think they

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say either you don't think either what

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do you think wow that's a tough one I

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think if we really think they're

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partnering and and using I don't I don't

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think they actually will be partnering

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so I'm going to go with no think you

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think that the rumor is false I think

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yeah really I think they're going to try

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to do as much on device as possible and

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that's going to be the the hill that

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they die on and they're going to want to

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over time be able to bring more and more

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things on device but they might just

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take a stance against going to the cloud

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for these slow experiences cuz Siri is I

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mean that's Siri's bad like that's

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people I mean I don't know if they know

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how bad Siri is but I think that that's

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more likely that they just try to keep

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everything local and on device so they

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don't send your information somewhere

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and and hopefully that doesn't get

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breached well but but you can

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incorporate Gemini into things where

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Gemini is pulling from all the other

13:07

sources it's learning from but Apple

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doesn't have to put your stuff into it

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right yeah I don't think that Apple will

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use a local Gemini model I think they'll

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only use Gemini for cloudbased AI that

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they need the cloud for I think if they

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do use Gemini then they've got to say it

13:25

at least once I don't think they're

13:26

going to say it at at all okay let's

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assume that they will use Gemini okay I

13:31

think that they will say the name I'm

13:33

going to say they're not going to say

13:34

the I'm going to say they're going to

13:35

say Google and Gemini I don't think

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they're gonna say either I I'm I'm

13:39

saying it as a I think it'll be funny if

13:42

they do and I'm gonna say screw it let's

13:44

let's I think they're going I like this

13:45

bet that's a good bet okay that's a good

13:47

bet okay speak Google also we're just

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gonna we're just gonna skip Vision

13:52

OS that's a whole another thing is like

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we expect Vision Pro updates probably at

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WWDC yeah but we don't know what they

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will be I was actually thinking about

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that last week it was like it's kind of

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exciting that now we get these whole big

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updates for the Vision Pro as well yeah

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that's kind of cool like cuz usually

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they introduce iPhone features that we

14:10

didn't even think of and we're like that

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makes a lot of sense that's really dope

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yeah and is that going to happen for

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Vision Pro or they they're probably just

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going to introduce the things that

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people have been complaining about I

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would would be nice which would be nice

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my guess is at WWDC we're going to see a

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lot of especially this first time around

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it's only been out for a few months it's

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going to be like a bunch of different

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progr that helps developers create

14:31

inside of it better where us three won't

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have any idea what any of that really

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means they'll definitely highlight like