Judge Cannon REVERSES HER OWN ORDER, Blames Prosecutor
Summary
TLDRIn a recent ruling, Federal Judge Eileen Cannon reversed her previous decision to disclose confidential information after criticizing Special Counsel Jack Smith for not providing adequate legal guidance. The dispute centered around Donald Trump's handling of confidential government information, with Judge Cannon initially applying the wrong legal standard. Smith argued for the protection of witness confidentiality, a stance now supported by Cannon, but she also mandated the release of witness statements without personal identifiers, potentially risking their safety.
Takeaways
- π Judge Eileen Cannon reversed her previous decision to disclose confidential information to the public, granting Special Counsel Jack Smith's motion for reconsideration.
- π Judge Cannon criticized Special Counsel Jack Smith for not providing sufficient legal framework or factual support in his initial seal request, which she claims led to her applying the wrong legal standard.
- π€¨ The dispute centered around whether certain confidential information produced during discovery in a criminal case should be made public, with significant implications for witness safety and the integrity of the proceedings.
- π Judge Cannon initially applied a 'compelling government interest' standard, which was later corrected to a 'good cause' standard as per Special Counsel Jack Smith's argument.
- π Special Counsel Jack Smith emphasized that the protective order governing the production of records should maintain their confidentiality, as disclosure could threaten the lives of witnesses and those cooperating with the investigation.
- π ββοΈ Judge Cannon was criticized for not understanding the basic legal principles surrounding protective orders and the confidentiality of witness information in criminal cases.
- π The transcript highlights a back-and-forth between Judge Cannon and Special Counsel Jack Smith, with the latter arguing for the correct application of the law and the preservation of confidentiality.
- π In her order, Judge Cannon allowed for the redaction of personal identifiers but insisted on the public disclosure of witness statements, with the potential risk of witnesses being identified through the content of their statements.
- π¨ The case involves former President Donald Trump's retention of National Defense information, which he was requested to return but refused, leading to legal disputes over the application of the Presidential Records Act and the Espionage Act.
- βοΈ The transcript underscores the importance of adhering to legal standards and protective measures in criminal cases, especially those involving classified or sensitive information.
Q & A
Who is the federal judge mentioned in the transcript?
-Federal Judge Eileene Cannon
What was the main issue with the order Judge Cannon initially issued?
-Judge Cannon initially applied the wrong legal standard when ordering the disclosure of certain confidential information to the public.
Why was the confidential information disclosed to the public?
-The disclosure occurred because Donald Trump attached confidential information, produced by the government during Discovery, to frivolous motions to compel.
What was the government's stance on keeping the information confidential?
-The government argued that a simple good cause standard should apply due to the protective order governing the production of these types of records.
What was Judge Cannon's criticism towards Special Counsel Jack Smith?
-Judge Cannon criticized Special Counsel Jack Smith for not helping her understand the law better and for not providing a governing legal framework or factual support in his initial seal request.
What did Special Counsel Jack Smith argue regarding the protective order?
-Jack Smith argued that the protective order is meant to protect the confidentiality of witnesses and that it is not controversial or complicated; it is a basic legal standard that such information should remain confidential.
What was the outcome of the reconsideration motion?
-Judge Cannon granted the motion for reconsideration, reversed her previous order, and allowed Special Counsel Jack Smith to redact certain information, although she insisted on making witness statements public with identities redacted.
What potential issue was raised about the redaction of witness statements?
-The concern was that even with identities redacted, the content of the witness statements could potentially allow people to piece together who the witnesses are, thus not fully protecting their confidentiality.
What was the basis for Judge Cannon's claim that the special counsel's arguments could have been raised previously?
-Judge Cannon suggested that the special counsel's arguments and evidence regarding the potential threats and intimidation of witnesses were not sufficiently developed until the motion for reconsideration.
What is the significance of the presidential records act mentioned in the transcript?
-The Presidential Records Act is significant because it is argued that it does not allow the president or former president to declare sensitive national defense information as personal property. It is also clarified that it does not preempt the Espionage Act or other long-standing criminal statutes.
Outlines
π¨ββοΈ Judge Cannon's Reversal and Critique of Special Counsel Jack Smith
In this paragraph, the discussion revolves around Judge Eileen Cannon's decision to reverse her previous order, which had directed the disclosure of certain confidential information to the public. This was initially prompted by Donald Trump's use of that confidential information in frivolous motions. Judge Cannon criticizes Special Counsel Jack Smith for not adequately assisting her in understanding the law, which she believes led to her applying the incorrect legal standard. The paragraph highlights the conflict between the protection of confidential informants and the public's right to access information, emphasizing the potential risk to witnesses' safety and the legal standards that govern such disclosures.
π The Presidential Records Act and Espionage Act Controversy
This paragraph delves into the legal dispute surrounding the Presidential Records Act and the Espionage Act, focusing on Donald Trump's refusal to return National Defense information and his claim that he can declare such information as his personal property under the Presidential Records Act. The discussion clarifies that the Presidential Records Act does not override the Espionage Act or other criminal statutes. It also addresses Judge Cannon's procedural history and her criticism of Special Counsel Jack Smith for not adequately explaining the legal framework or providing factual support for the relief sought. The paragraph underscores the complexity of the case and the challenges faced by the legal system in balancing transparency with the protection of sensitive information.
π Reconsideration and the Protection of Witness Identities
The final paragraph discusses Judge Cannon's allowance for Special Counsel Jack Smith to redact certain information, despite her previous order to disclose it. It highlights the judge's insistence on making the actual statements of witnesses public, while allowing for the redaction of their identities and personal information. The paragraph critiques this decision as potentially harmful, as it could enable the identification of witnesses through their statements. The discussion also touches on the potential for an appeal by Special Counsel Jack Smith regarding this aspect of the order. The paragraph concludes with a call to action for viewers to stay informed and subscribe for updates on the case.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Judge Eileen Cannon
π‘Special Counsel Jack Smith
π‘Protective Order
π‘Confidential Information
π‘Donald Trump
π‘First Amendment
π‘Reconsideration
π‘Good Cause Standard
π‘Witness Intimidation
π‘Public Interest
Highlights
Federal Judge Eileen Cannon reverses her previous order, granting Special Counsel Jack Smith's motion for reconsideration.
Judge Cannon criticizes Special Counsel Jack Smith for not providing adequate legal guidance, which she claims led to her applying the wrong legal standard.
The issue revolves around the disclosure of confidential information to the public, which was previously attached to frivolous motions by Donald Trump.
The government argues that a simple good cause standard should apply due to a protective order governing the production of these records.
Judge Cannon initially wanted to give her own interpretation of the law, which was not aligned with the special counsel's explanation.
Special Counsel Jack Smith asserts that the protection of witness confidentiality is not a controversial issue and is the purpose of a protective order.
Judge Cannon is criticized for not understanding the basic law regarding protective orders and the potential threat to witness safety.
The transcript discusses the case against Donald Trump in the Southern District of Florida, where he is accused of willfully retaining National Defense information.
The Presidential Records Act is mentioned, with the argument that it does not allow for the declaration of sensitive National Defense information as personal property.
Special Counsel Jack Smith is said to have made the legal framework clear, but Judge Cannon is accused of applying the wrong legal standard.
Judge Cannon's order suggests that the special counsel's newly raised arguments should have been presented earlier, which is contested by the special counsel.
The transcript highlights a conflict between Judge Cannon's initial ruling and her subsequent reconsideration, which ultimately sides more with the government's argument.
Despite the reversal, Judge Cannon maintains that certain witness statements must be made public, with only identities and personal information redacted.
The potential for witness identification through the remaining statements is discussed, raising concerns about the effectiveness of redactions.
Special Counsel Jack Smith may appeal the aspect of the order that requires the public disclosure of witness statements with identities redacted.
The transcript concludes with a critique of Judge Cannon's handling of the case, suggesting that her actions were misguided and potentially harmful.
Transcripts
federal judge eileene Cannon just issued
an order reversing herself granting
special counsel Jack Smith's motion for
reconsideration in this order though she
criticizes special counsel Jack Smith
for not helping her
more understand the law and she says
it's actually Jack Smith's fault why she
applied the wrong legal standard when
she previously ordered certain
confidential information be disclosed to
the public simply because Donald Trump
took confidential information that was
produced by the government during
Discovery and attached it to frivolous
motions to compel and judge Canon said
that the government would then have to
show a compelling interest to keep the
information confidential and the
government said no it's just a simple
good cause standard because there's a
protective order governing the
production of these types of records and
judge Canon this is not a controversial
issue when it comes to the identities of
confidential informants and confidential
witness interviews and other things that
are produced uh pursuant to a protective
order and Discovery these things aren't
made public before a trial because you
could be uh potentially threatening the
lives of witnesses some who may not even
be testifying I mean to be clear Donald
Trump would have access to these records
the issue is do you make them public and
imperil the lives of witnesses of people
who are cooperating and it's very basic
law that you don't make these things
public but judge Canon wanted to give
her own interpretation here um let me
just read from you a portion of Judge
Cannon's order though where she attacks
special counsel Jack Smith um for not
appropriately educating her I mean this
is so absurd she goes the special
council's initial seal request failed to
offer a governing legal framework or any
factual support for the relief sought
instead it contained only conclusory and
unsubstantiated assertions about witness
safety the Integrity of the
proceedings um and privacy interests
later in response to the Press
coalition's motion the special councel
failed to engage with let alone refute
the Press coalition's argument that the
First Amendment attached to the subject
materials and again by the way you have
judge Canon using that terminology that
she used in another order where she
directed special counsel jacksmith to
engage with unlawful scenarios let me be
very clear judge Canon it's not the
prosecutor's role to engage with things
that violate the law it's the special
council's job to provide the information
and data and it's for you as a judge to
uh have the bare minimum competency in
order to understand and apply the
correct legal standard you go back to
what special counsel jacksmith explained
special Council jacksmith said judge
this is not a controversial issue that
we protect the confidentiality of
witness that's the very purpose of why
you have a protective order I don't
think Jack Smith thought you needed to
site additional law and what you have to
go back to law school and teach judge
Canon what a protective order is and
what a protective order means special
counsel Jack Smith said look judge this
is what's called Janks material this
involves confidential Witnesses this
involves information from the Secret
Service this involves information from
intelligence agency
this stuff is produced pursuing to a
protective order and it remains
confidential it's very basic and judge
Cannon applied a compelling government
interest standard and she was absolutely
wrong and now she's attacking Jack Smith
this is also what uh judge Canon said
she goes not withstanding the still
developing and somewhat muddled
questions raised in this criminal case
the court determines for for the reasons
previously stated that no right of
access attaches to the disputed
Discovery material reference and or
attached to defendants motion to compel
what you're saying there are muddled
questions still developing there's
nothing muddled about the case in the
southern district of Florida against
Donald Trump Donald Trump willfully
retained National Defense information he
took it it does not belong to him it was
requested that he return it he refuse to
return it and then he claims that under
a civil statute the P the presidential
records act that he can declare anything
he wants as his own personal property
because when you are a president or
former president you get away with it
and you're above the law and no no judge
or no jury can question if he
declares uh our nuclear codes our
American war plans and other very very
sensitive National Defense information
as his own first the presidential
records act says those types of records
are not personal records in any event
the presidential records act does not
preempt the Espionage Act it does not
preempt criminal statutes that have been
around for nearly 100 years I mean
special counsel Jack Smith made this as
clear as can be there's nothing muddled
or confusing but apparently judge Canon
believes that it's the fault of special
counsel Jack Smith for not explaining to
her how to do her job let's take a look
at it right here this is what she said
she talks about how this cause comes
before the court upon two motions the
special council's motion for
reconsideration and stay and defendants
motion for leave to disclose Discovery
she goes on to talk about there's a
lengthy procedural history leading to
the instant motion provided below and
she goes on and explains this lengthy
history in like six or seven pages the
lengthy history is caused by the fact
judge cannon that you don't know how to
be a judge special counsel Jack Smith
produce documents in Discovery in a
criminal case pursu to a protective
order which says you keep this type of
documents that always remain
confidential confidential in a criminal
case I know judge Canon maybe you
haven't tried a criminal case before you
certainly haven't tried a criminal case
involving classified information or
highly confidential information like
this but this takes place in every
single case so Jack Smith turned it over
and then Donald Trump took it filed a
bogus motion to compel on frivolous
grounds and Trump said aha we've got an
idiot judge who will do anything we tell
her to do essentially how would what
Trump's lawyers were saying why don't we
take the confidential witness
information let's attach it to something
we file on the public docket and then
let's tell judge Canon that this should
now be disclosed to the public so we can
threaten and intimidate Witnesses and
judge Cannon will just apply the wrong
standard because she doesn't know what
she is doing that's what you refer to
judge Canon as the lengthy procedural
history here and then Jack Smith said no
you can't make this public and then you
judge Canon said uhhuh I'm gonna make it
public and then Jack Smith said let me
be very clear if you do that you're
violating the law and there's going to
be serious ramifications so now you
blame Jack Smith for that that that's me
breaking down six pages in under two
minutes right there and then it goes on
for you to say this is what judge Canon
just goes she goes the special council's
newly raised arguments could have and
should have been raised previously
pause what are he talking about newly
raised arguments this is just what the
law is I I understand Canon that you
don't know that you apply a good cause
standard rather than a compelling
government interest standard Jack Smith
said that in the prior motions then
judge Canon goes as a preliminary point
the arguments and evidence advanced in
the special council's motion could have
and should have been raised in Prior
filings denial of the motion would be
appropriate on that basis as provided
above the special Council had two
opportunities to raise these arguments
and failed to do so the special
council's initial seal request failed to
offer a governing legal framework or any
factual support for the relief sought
instead it contained only conclusory and
unsubstantiated assertions about witness
safety the Integrity of the proceedings
and privacy later in response to the
Press coalition's motion the special
Council failed to engage with engage
with let alone refute the Press
coalition's argument that the First
Amendment attached to the subject
materials instead the special Council
focused solely on the elements of
intervention under Federal rule of civil
procedure 24 only now after failing to
meaningfully raise argument or present
evidence that could have been raised in
these responses the special counsil
moves for reconsideration and argues in
no uncertain terms that the court
committed clear error by applying an
unobjected to Legal standard what are
you talking about you're applying the
wrong law he objected to it when you
applied the wrong legal standard he gave
you the right legal standard that's used
in every single other case in the United
States of America not just cases
involving classified information or
confident every case it's a protective
order it's a good cause standard I I
know you don't like to engage with the
law judge Canon but you you got the
standard then it goes on to say the same
is true of special council's manifest
Injustice claim the factual support
underlying this claim the basis for the
assertion that disclosure of potential
Witness identities could subject them to
threats intimidation and harassment was
meaningfully developed for the first
time in the motion for reconsideration
itself what do you mean it was
meaningfully developed for the first
time in the motion for
reconsideration the whole point of a
protective order in general is that if
you disclose this information it would
cause threats that's why you entered a
protective order that's the purpose of
the document and then special councel
jacksmith explained that it would cause
threats and witness intimidation you you
need that to be spelled out for you more
what a threat is and what witness
intimidation is I mean judge Canon's
just absolutely the worst judge
imaginable but then as you go through
the order judge Canon does say though
that while she will allow special
counsel Jack Smith to redact a ton of
information because she reconsidered her
prior order she wanted to like jab Jacks
Smith with one thing and we'll see
jacksmith um ultimately appeals this she
goes when it comes to the witness
statements you can redact their
identities you can redact their phone
numbers redact a lot of personal
information but when it comes to their
actual statements thes you need to make
the statements public but you can redact
the identities which again is just is is
really dumb I I mean and corrupt because
people will potentially be able to piece
together
who the Witnesses are by looking at what
their statements are and it'll be hard
if you just redact some portions to not
redact you know other identifying
information that's in a witness
statement I mean for example let's say
there's a cooperating witness who worked
in maral Lago and let's say it was a
janitor at maral Lago right you redact
the name you redact the occupation you
redact the address you redact emails but
then when the person's saying how they I
how they they came into knowledge how
they came into knowing these things
they'll say things like well I was
working here I was working there and I
think people will be able to see oh you
must be talking about the janitor
because they're talking about cleaning
at certain hours of the day oh this must
be the janitor oh let me do a Google
search who's the janitor
so I think special counsel Jack Smith
could potentially appeal that aspect of
it we'll see but you had judge Canon
being called out by Jack Smith reversing
herself in this order and then blaming
Jack Smith for her having to reverse
herself it doesn't get much more
pathetic than that let me know what you
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