JRE MMA Show #155 with Max Holloway
Summary
TLDRThe transcript captures a dynamic and insightful conversation between two passionate voices in the world of mixed martial arts (MMA). They delve into the intricacies of fighting, discussing the impact of jet lag on performance, the challenges of adjusting to different time zones for international fights, and the strategic considerations that go into each match. The discussion also touches on the physical and mental preparation for fights, including the importance of acclimating to new environments and the significance of a fighter's mindset in overcoming adversity. The speakers reflect on the evolution of the sport, the emergence of new talents, and the legacy of iconic fighters. They also explore the concept of the 'BMF' title and its role in shaping the narrative of fighters' careers. Throughout the dialogue, there's a shared appreciation for the sport's complexity, the respect for the fighters' craft, and the acknowledgment of the ever-changing landscape of MMA.
Takeaways
- 🥊 The interview discusses the challenges of dealing with jet lag and adjusting to different time zones for fights, highlighting the importance of acclimatization.
- 🌍 Joe Rogan and the guest talk about the impact of fight schedules and time differences on athletes and fans, especially in relation to international events.
- 📅 The topic of career phases and public perception in combat sports is addressed, with a focus on how losses can influence a fighter's reputation.
- 🧠 The conversation touches on the significance of mental strength and the ability to overcome adversity, both in training and during fights.
- 🥳 The guest shares personal experiences and strategies, including the use of video games as a form of relaxation and the importance of a strong work ethic.
- 🤕 Discussion about the physical demands of the sport, including injuries such as broken bones and the need for proper recovery time.
- 🥰 The interviewee expresses admiration for fellow fighters, emphasizing the respect and camaraderie within the fighting community.
- 🏆 The significance of championship belts and the legacy of fighters are discussed, with the guest sharing his thoughts on what constitutes a 'champion'.
- 🎮 The integration of gaming and streaming into the life of a professional fighter is explored, showing a different side of the athlete's personality.
- 📈 The guest talks about his ventures outside of fighting, such as business endeavors and content creation, emphasizing the importance of having multiple interests.
- 🗣️ The dialogue also covers the importance of effective communication and understanding in the sport, from strategy discussions to fan engagement.
Q & A
What was Joe Rogan's podcast called?
-The Joe Rogan Experience
How does the fighter mentioned in the transcript deal with jet lag for a fight?
-They try to arrive early and adjust to the new time zone over the first two days.
What was the farthest location the fighter had to fly to for a fight?
-Abu Dhabi, specifically on Fight Island.
How did the fighter's schedule get affected during the fight in Abu Dhabi?
-They had to adjust their sleep and training schedule, sleeping during the day and training at night.
What was the fighter's reaction to the July card announcement in the UK?
-He thought it was crazy that the main card would start at 3:00 a.m. and the headliner would fight at 6:00 a.m.
How does the fighter feel about his career after his 30th fight?
-He feels that people have written him off for some reason, but he believes he is still in his athletic prime at 32 years old.
What was the fighter's strategy for dealing with Justin Gaethje's leg kicks?
-He focused on speed and conditioning to outwork Gaethje, rather than just increasing strength.
How did the fighter's team prepare for Justin Gaethje's Rolling Thunder kick?
-They were aware of it and prepared for it, having seen it in previous fights and knowing it was part of Gaethje's arsenal.
What was the fighter's mindset going into the fight against Justin Gaethje?
-He was initially nervous and questioned his decision to fight Gaethje, but once the walkout song played, he shifted into 'gool time' and focused on performing at his best.
How did the fighter's team handle his weight increase for the fight at 55?
-They focused on adding size to endure damage without losing speed, ensuring he was still fast and conditioned.
What was the fighter's view on the importance of mindset in combat sports?
-He believes that mindset is crucial, especially at higher levels of competition, and that success is largely mental.
Outlines
🥋 The Challenges of Jet Lag in Fighting
The paragraph discusses the impact of jet lag on fighters, particularly when they have to adjust their sleep and training schedules to accommodate time differences. Joe Rogan and his guest, a fighter, talk about experiences of flying to Abu Dhabi for a fight and the difficulties of acclimating to a new time zone. They also touch upon the unusual fight times and how it affects a fighter's routine.
🌍 International Fights and Time Zone Adjustments
This section covers the complexities of fighting internationally, especially in the UK where the main card starts extremely early in the morning. The discussion includes the effects on the audience and the fighters, and how the American pay-per-view schedule influences global event timing. There's also a humorous anecdote about a UK fan watching a fight at dawn.
📅 The Impact of Fight Scheduling on Personal Life
The conversation shifts to how fight scheduling affects personal lives, with anecdotes about informing spouses about late-night screaming during fights and the camaraderie among friends who gather to watch early morning pay-per-view events. There's a sense of community and support among fight fans, which is highlighted through these personal stories.
🥊 The Reality of Fighter Perceptions and Career Phases
The fighter discusses public perception and how it can change after a loss. Despite being only 32 years old, he mentions that some people had written him off, possibly due to his long career in the UFC since he was 20. The discussion also covers the importance of not underestimating an opponent and the influence of fighting styles on match outcomes.
🤕 Recovery and Brain Health in Fighting
This paragraph delves into the importance of recovery, especially after a significant knockout. The fighter talks about taking time to heal, referencing Manny Pacquiao's knockout and the subsequent year off recommended by Freddy Roach. There's an emphasis on brain health, the use of information about concussions, and the personal responsibility fighters have to protect their brains.
🥳 The Aftermath of a Memorable Knockout
The discussion focuses on the aftermath of a particularly memorable knockout in a fight. The fighter shares his reactions, the public's response, and the impact it had on his career. There's a sense of awe and respect for the opponent, as well as a reflection on the significance of the knockout in the broader context of the sport.
🏆 The Significance of Championships and Legacy Fights
The fighter expresses his desire to retire on top, discussing his legacy and future plans outside of fighting. He talks about his ventures into business, streaming, and gaming, emphasizing the importance of having multiple interests to maintain identity post-retirement. The conversation ends with a reflection on his career and the excitement for future endeavors.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Jet lag
💡UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship)
💡Knockout
💡BMF (Baddest Motherf***er) Belt
💡Strength and Conditioning
💡Spinning Back Kick
💡Weight Cutting
💡Champion Mindset
💡Legacy
💡Hydration Tests
💡MMA Math
Highlights
Joe Rogan discusses the challenges of dealing with jet lag for fights, especially for international locations like Abu Dhabi.
The experience of adjusting to unusual fight times and the impact on an athlete's body and routine.
The importance of acclimatizing to local conditions and how it can give a fighter a significant advantage.
The announcement of a UK fight card with unusual start times, leading to humorous adjustments for fans.
Insights into the career phases of fighters and public perception after a loss.
The discussion about the misconception of a fighter's age and their actual physical prime.
The significance of fighting styles and how they can influence the outcome of a match.
The importance of brain health and recovery in contact sports, with references to concussion awareness.
Max Holloway's perspective on his own durability and the public's perception of his ability to take a hit.
The strategy behind Max Holloway's training and preparation for his fight against Justin Gaethje.
Holloway's reaction to his knockout victory and the immediate aftermath during the event.
The emotional impact and significance of the BMF title and what it brings to the sport of MMA.
Discussion on the potential future opponents and the excitement surrounding Max Holloway's next fight.
The influence of a fighter's mindset and mental strength in high-level competition.
Max Holloway's thoughts on retiring from the sport on his own terms and leaving a legacy.
Holloway's ventures outside of fighting, including his interest in streaming and gaming.
The conversation about the importance of having multiple interests and not being defined solely by one's sport.
Transcripts
Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe
Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan
podcast by night all
day have you ever had to deal with jet
lag for a fight no not really I mean we
we we try to go up like early that's why
so the first two days is is whatever but
then after that we're all good where's
the furthest that you had to fly to to
to fight uh I think so Abu Dhabi fight
Island and so how long does that take to
adjust brother that one was weird cuz
then you remember they had us uh
fighting at weird times like you know
like so we had to change we had to sleep
during the during the day and then wait
like train during the night like I I
remember going to sleep around like 8 or
9:00 a.m. whoa yeah cuz we was fighting
like around that time like early in the
morning so it was just uh that was
insane so you had to get your body
acclimated to that acclimated y that's
that's got to play a factor right like
if you live in Abu Dhabi that would be a
big Advantage oh for sure for sure I I
mean did you not just see the uh the
July card that just got announced in UK
3 3:00 a.m. brother yeah that's crazy is
is the main card start so they're saying
whoever's Main Line uh headlining is
fighting at 6:00 a.m. that's crazy
that's insane bro you know how drunk
that audience is going to be right there
you
see I saw you know what it's funny I saw
a clip I saw a clip uh a meme of a video
of like uh a UK fan he's like living in
the UK he was like he watched our fight
our fight just got done mine's in Justin
he played our clip and then he was like
great now I can start my morning he
opens the door it's it's it's light out
and stuff I'm like holy [ __ ] funny yeah
they have to deal with different I mean
it's funny the American pay-per-view
time schedule just trumps everything oh
yeah I mean crazy I guess we're the ones
who buy it the most I got I wonder what
the numbers are in the rest of the
world I I I think UK is UK is another
hot spot right a UK big uh I mean they
some there were some fans to be yeah
doing that every and you know once a
month they're planning a there's a
pay-per-view card and they're like look
honey um 3:00 a.m. I'm probably going to
be screaming so please don't you know
don't divorce me so it's pretty awesome
yeah you just got to get one tolerant
wife and have everybody go over to that
house yeah be like hey guys or you get
the single friend you know you know that
that one of the guys that he's just
single you don't have nothing going on
he's like yeah come to my house yeah
that's perfect so what has it been like
for you you uh after 300 I mean it seems
like I I think for whatever
reason people go through uh phases of
their career and with some Fighters they
if a fighter gets a loss or two they
start to think that that fighter has
started to decline uh-huh uhhuh and with
you I think some people had written you
off for some strange reason brother oh
brother I the I heard it I heard the
noise I'm like listen he's only 32 32
right exactly he's only 32 that's
athletic Prime I'm like there's not no
beatings there's no Knockouts there's no
like there's no decline in the uh
expression of skills inside the Octagon
everything looks the same and better
every fight you you know what the
problem is the problem is that I I got
these guys got to see me grow up you
know I got in the UFC when I was 20 20
years old and a lot of people think I'm
DC's old ass like 42 years old or
something you know what I mean and then
I'm like brother I'm not DC I've been
calling out DC but I'm a young guy you
know just because I've been harassing
his his potato looking butt like come on
his bag of potato looking ass I I'm you
two together are hilarious brother I
love that guy I love that guy that guy
he's the best a lot of guys just think
I'm old because I've been fighting since
I was 20 and then it and it wasn't and
it's not like I've been fighting 20 I've
been fighting since I was 20 and I
fought a who's who in in in my division
the world since you were 20 years old
just past teenager yeah so like
especially with the you know with the
vog fights you know it's like that the
first two fights was all was was was all
right and the third fight is what made
everybody go oh he's done for I'm like
brother like that was his vul's night he
was on you know what I mean like it is
what it is everybody's like oh yeah look
look at Max he he vog just did this and
now they're doing MMA math cuz Ilia did
that to vul and even with Ilia doing MMA
math I beat a guy that beat beat you I'm
like brother this is not how it works I
lost to Dustin Dustin just got knocked
out from U from Justin and now what now
can I say I beat Dustin now no thises
yeah you know Styles make fights so it's
also like what happens in Camp what what
kind of condition are you coming into
the fight in did you are you fighting
injured how did yeah exact did you just
fight Islam makev and get head kicked I
mean that's a big factor man brother
that that that was crazy you know a a
lot of people was giving me a a [ __ ]
when uh cuz Islam talked about our fight
about me and Justin sing was useless
fight or whatever and I'm like bro like
if you took the fight in February when
like you should have cuz you came out
clean I think so Justin would have would
have fought you you know but like how
the hell is someone that you just
knocked like that was a scary knockout
brother like that was a scary knockout
ass knockout and that guy turning around
in a couple months like bro you're not
even supposed to get hit for that long
right and then now you're doing a camp
even if you're okay say you do a camp
you don't Spar our camp right but then
you still training hard or whatever and
like maybe you just accidentally fall
over bump your head on something you
know or like you're scratching your head
you know or you're screaming or
something cuz you're stressing out you
know I'm like I don't know what could
happen but you got you have to have a
long time yeah chill I mean look at look
at Justin I just saw Justin finally
doing interviews after this fight and he
just said like I'm not doing nothing for
six months like nothing and I'm like bro
that's smart you know when Marquez
knocked out Manny Pacquiao Freddy roach
made him wait a year one year one year
that's crazy so you got to really heal
up that was a bad knockout bro you only
got I remember it was it was you that
talked about it like that talked about
our brain this is like long time ago
when you talking about the cotton candy
thing in your brain and how it's How
once that disappear you don't that that
[ __ ] don't grow back right exactly and I
remember watching that that was a long
time ago I didn't know how many years
that was that was ago and um that really
meant a lot and everybody keep telling
me like oh Max you get hit so much and
blah blah blah this and that I'm like
yeah okay in the fight you might see me
get hit but I'm not I'm not I'm not
sparring you know like I'm not sparing
I'm being smart this just engage you one
brother I was going to the gates of hell
we had to bring back sparing you know
what I mean like I was I was ready to be
a crash dumy against we I told my Coes
look this is a man that is very
dangerous we need to get in we need to
get in in the the thick of it and get it
done so we bring back sporing for this
one but it still wasn't wi it still
wasn't crazy you know it wasn't C like
we had a hard days out far outside of
camp like outside of camp and it was cl
then we kind of toned it down but
getting for ad Justin G you had to but
then with with your brain health you
need to protect your brain you know what
I mean like there's so much movies like
on concussions and the movie concussion
and and we have so much uh what is it
information now about the brain and how
you can help yourself and how you can
mentally and physically help yourself
get better and and help the brain out so
why why not use that you know a lot of
people call me crazy a lot of people I
keep hearing to talk about his chin got
to go this time his chin like when the
hell is my chin my chin was supposed to
go the last 20 fights you know what I
mean like what what are you guys talking
about you know yeah it's ridiculous
someone either has a good chin or they
don't have a good chin but you you're
not getting hit clean a lot one of the
things that you do a lot is you you roll
with shots you're very good at rolling
with shots when you're getting hit
you're getting hit and I see you turning
your face I see you taking some steam
off of a lot of shots and your style is
so it's it's it's a fun style to watch
but it's also a nightmare to deal with
you're switching St
you're you're you're constantly cutting
angles like the volume that you put on
Justin like when Justin was having a
hard time catching to you it was it was
very evident early on that you were on
it but it was one of those fights where
it's like damn Justin with one punch can
[ __ ] people up and it's just like
avoiding that one punch and then we
start tuning him up then he dropped you
he dropped you in what round was that uh
it third I think third or fourth round I
forget four it didn't K of a drop which
is crazy you know what I mean like a lot
of people it didn't count no it didn't
so so like there there um ESPN is like
uh posting it saying like in however
many fights I'm with the UFC right I
stay didn't get dropped that's that's
some [ __ ] you I
mean get Justin down I'll take it you
know I mean but I'm not I'll would be a
man to sit here and be I wouldn't be a
man sitting here and telling you that it
did bro he bro all I remember getting
hit by that punch and then like I I I
sat and then I came back up I was like
what the [ __ ] did he me with you me I
was like holy [ __ ] I was like that was a
good punch and then when I rewatched it
he hit me like right on the top of my my
my Dome I was like holy smack brother
this guy this guy smacks and then I was
fine as soon as I got it was one of
those like boom you know like the legs
just give out the legs just give out
like I was stood there even when I was
standing I was looking at him but that
that I don't know how that didn't count
as a drop brother I don't know what they
count as a drop because that has to
count yeah yeah that was that was crazy
no that's 100% a knockdown somebody just
made a mistake but like um did you ever
see ilot Toria when he fought ji Herbert
yeah yeah yeah I saw that I saw that
what funny I never saw the fight but
then when people was uh when he was
talking about fighting and we was
fighting and saying and he was he said
something about dropping me or killing
me and then I see the comments of him
getting that that H that left high kick
getting dropped so I was like oh yeah I
didn't see the fight but I saw that part
happen it was an amazing comeback cuz he
knocked him out in the second round but
man he can take a shot because he got
hit so clean with a switch kick off the
left side right chin to the chin just
perfect I mean it was just whack and
then his whole body just goes out and
then he grabbed a hold of a sing check
this out watch this boom I mean dude
watch the head snap back look at the
head snap back I mean that is just Shin
to the chin that is just a perfect ji
Herbert head KCK but he grabbed a hold
of him and he managed to maintain his
composure got him to the ground survives
the round and actually was winning the
rest of the round too look four minutes
did a lot of wrestling a lot of
wrestling he's a very complete fighter
very very good bro he's very good very
good and his [ __ ] boxing man his
boxing is
terrifying I was I was shocked that vul
wanted to take that fight so quickly
after the makach fight and if I was his
friend I would have not recommended that
but I don't know if you could talk to
him I mean he's a champion you yeah
there dudes like that is like mate we
can do it mate we're going to go to war
he's [ __ ] animal he's an but the the
human body it's a the vulnerabilities of
the human body are real despite the
spirit of the man yeah despite the
spirit of the man you got damage no
matter your spirit you still have
something your your brain your muscles
stood hurting so it's going to only
protect itself when it feel something
when there's a warning sign going off
like oh man warning did it shut off
because it's like look I'm going to save
me from myself that's what it when Conor
fought uh Dustin the last time he had a
broken Shin yeah his leg was broken
already a stress factor right y he had a
fracture going into that fight and he
knew it and the body's just going to
your body's going to give up you know no
matter how strong the will is and think
about like what that cost him a lot two
years two years two years and who knows
where he could have been if he hadn't
taken that fight and he left look it's
only eight weeks yeah that you got a
stress fracture like that it's like 8
weeks and it's and it's healed right cuz
it's not all the way through czy it
could have healed it and crazy and us
would move they would move mountains for
that man so why not right I don't know
if they knew it was a fracture though it
definitely was but they I think they had
done MRIs on it it was inconclusive
turned out it was badly hurt you know
you've had Bone bruises before where you
like I don't know if this is broken you
got to get it looked at yeah yeah yeah
they suck no they hurt bro they how is
your left shin brother my left sh it's
all right now but they hurt bro I I was
about to talk about bro this guy kick
hard as [ __ ] yeah and his bro the way
his bones I don't know what it was made
out of bro I think so titanium like I
like to say my my chin is made out of
vibranium brother he had a vibranium leg
bro I was like he went to wakanda 2 I
was thinking to myself like how I
thought I only even got to go to wakanda
I guess he went too you know but uh you
know at the end of the day bro it it
hurt like I still my my shin still
bruised it feels good I can move I move
it whatever is like stiff after the
fight in there a lot of people always I
always hear you talk about it in there
and be like oh yeah it hurts I don't
really feel it like I don't pay too much
mind to it in in the fight I I I can
feel when he hits it and it's like oh
I'm telling myself that's going to hurt
later but you got 25 minutes you know we
we we got to stay in here you know and
that's what's interesting is it doesn't
seem to compromise your movement that
much it depends entirely upon the person
like some people get C kicked once real
hard and it swells up and you see
immediately they're walking [ __ ] up
and then they're trying to switch South
yeah they're trying to switch dances but
you don't seem to have as much of a
problem with it yeah I was it wasn't
really a problem I know it hurts I know
it's going to be hurt after the fight
but then even that like switching stance
is the most craziest thing to me while
while after getting like completely
landed nicely there cuz if I switch Dan
he screwed up two of my legs what I'm
going to do crawl over to him right you
know what I mean I rather be I rather
have one leg than two legs messed up you
know so again I think that's you you I
think you're particularly durable
because some guys like you've seen what
happens with paa he kicks you a couple
of times in that leg and that leg's
[ __ ] up man messed up everybody even
Yan bovich who's made out of rocks yeah
Yan's like his bones are made out of
stone remember when he was going with
analiia he went Shin to Shin with him
yeah he was just cracking shins with him
and [ __ ] his leg up yeah and then a
guy like bro did you see that picture of
me and Alex Alex did you guys see the
picture of me and Alex they they they
face swapped them no they put my face on
Alex perara try to look at up brother he
look like Thanos bro and money mo cono
bro money mo cono is like yeah [ __ ] this
guy you know you know money mo cono he's
like yeah [ __ ] that guy bro you got to
kill that
man m m is the funniest guy bro I love
that guy he was like I saw Twitter he
was like yeah people asking me to to
fight Max cuz he's nine and I'm I'm 10
or something or eight and nine or
something like that are you [ __ ]
crazy he's like I'll fight him if he if
we have one rule no
punching I love money M bro he funny
dude man he almost lost that Jaylen
Turner fight that was crazy what
happened there Jaylen Turner tried to
look cool and get a walkoff kill and it
didn't happen it didn't happen you can't
do that you got to follow up that was
the fight like if he beat moano man and
Jaylen had him we had him we we was in I
was at the hotel room still watching
that
fight we was watching it we was watching
it and um yeah I was tripping out and
you know what it's funny as soon as that
as soon as that happened I was like I
told my coach I was like you know what
would' be funny if money M uh comes out
and reick is him the next round and he
he finishes him the next round I was
like damn I was like Bo it wasn't it
wasn't funny but it was like damn that
amazing well Jaylen is so long he's so
dangerous to his knockout power like at
length he catches guys on the end of
shots you can't even come close to him
and he's cracking you and he's got nasty
power and you know that moano dude he he
tough he's very tough the fact that
figured it out he's like [ __ ] all this
standing I'm going to grab that dude
drag him to the ground Smart Bro smart
yeah that's that's fight IQ bro what a
card that was oh brother from the be
from the first one bro I had I had uh
family and friends that came to the
fight and they went to the first fight
Cody Garand fig you had to bro you had
imagine you got two former world
champions going at it in the first fight
fight yeah that's insane and two guys
that are still awesome and it was and
they was fighting it was a fight bro a
fight damn how how crazy was it when he
went for the handsand kick imagine he
landed that kick on stuff's face when he
when stuff went for the handstand and
then he just went for a regular leg kick
and almost kicked them in the head that
was crazy yeah those uh cartwheel kicks
are ridiculous crazy crazy you got to
set him up brother you can't be just
throwing them throwing them freely like
that you know well Justin tried Rolling
Thunder on you in like the last round
right I knew I knew he was going to try
it I knew that that's what Justin's
known for you know so I knew he's going
to do it we knew he's going to do a
couple stuff
we knew power punches leg kicks I I was
thinking if we got later in the rounds
or if he was getting comfortable he's
going to try and do that Thunder the
Rolling Thunder Kick so we was ready for
it you know he's got this weird ability
to kick your legs like in a clinch close
bro close bro yeah I I heard you talking
about it how his hip is so flexible that
he can just K he can bro it was almost
like you know it what it remind me it
wasn't a high kick of course but you
know what his leg kick remind me of it
reminds me of your Year's high kick like
me and your year could be nose to nose
and a [ __ ] kick comes up I'm like
holy [ __ ] like he he did it to me one
time and I was like what the like why
are you guys so flexible and then even
like with uh with um Justin with his leg
kick bro like some of them is even his
angles that he take on his kick I'm like
you're not hitting me with this and it
[ __ ] it cracks me his whole Shin
across my knee I'm like what is going on
how you Landing this it's like yeah his
angles is is weird bro he has some weird
angles for it for sure well he's very
unique in a lot of ways is a very unique
style very unique mentality he's a
unique guy but the the leg kicks in the
clinch when he was what was it was it
still pfl back then pfl I know which one
you were talking about the one that he
was in the clinch and he clinch leg
kicking kicking and full power he killed
that guy he Ked that guy it's horrible
to watch because you're dealing with the
clinch and you're thinking oh we're just
clinching here and he's just killing
your legs no one can like no one can I
don't know anybody else who kicks the
legs from the clinch like Justin gatei
does full power clinch you know how you
do that heel kick that's what people do
they usually grab that heel and they hit
it whatever but like this guy's like
straight Jose Aldo running leg kicking
to you in the clch you know it's insane
but think about all the guys you fought
Max I mean you have fought the best of
the best you fought everybody except
makev there's like everybody of your era
you fought yeah well with the makach
fight is not not too far off so you know
that never say never I got a couple more
years than me for sure what do you think
like if you had to plan it out okay so
here we got porier and makev are
fighting they're they're fighting next
and that's going to be what is that New
Jersey New Jersey New Jersey so let's
say makev wins if Mev wins well even if
poier wins if poier wins bro if poier
wins that' be a fun fight remat we have
history you know especially at 55 we're
at 45 and make it make it a double belt
brother that I would love that brother a
double belt yeah that would be crazy
double belt the double belt first time
ever BMF and the lightweight title on
the line that' be crazy wow that would
be wild but even if whoever wins but
then I really like no here's the thing
at 55 you look fantastic you look bigger
you look stronger I'm sure it felt
better like you didn't have to good the
C cut bro the cut was the the cut was a
cut don't get me wrong but it was it was
beautiful brother that I was eating
sushi all week eating more I I eat sushi
when I go to 45 too but I was eating
more Sushi all week bro I was loving it
do you think that that's better for you
we see what happens you know I I feel
like I still have unfinished business at
45 I want to get the ti I mean before
this fight before this fight you know we
we only had like a couple of options
after this fight we the whole main goal
with this fight was like just have all
the options that was the that was going
that was my ment going that was my
mental going to fight was the mentality
was let's have all the options we we put
we we go out there we do something
spectacular you know I'm right up there
with the top 55s I'm right up um I still
have my my spot at with the 45ers and
then you know to my surprise after the
fight they announced a Connor a Connor
versus Cher fight so it's like me and
Connor have some history so there's
options you know what I mean so and
they're talking about doing something at
65 I know DC's been saying this I don't
know what he knows I have impressed him
I'm sure DC knows something that guy
only talks about stuff when he knows
he's a yeah yeah yeah he tries to this
is what DC asks about that you know DC
you've been you call a lot of fights
with him you know him as a person mother
he don't talk about nothing unless he
knows something is going on brother it's
either that's what I'm think yeah it's
either he he knows something going on or
he's just bullshitting so it's either
it's it's one or the other he never ever
plays the middle exactly with with that
with that you know what I mean I know he
doesn't Bush but I know he sees other
stuff it's like it's crazy like uh cuz I
saw him talking about uh the BMF I did
you see that one with that bit with RC
when he told RC that he should who
should else should fight for the BMF and
no disrespect to him but like come on DC
what the hell like he's just so off
offline on that side you know yeah he's
so out of pocket like calling that you
know well he's out of pocket because
he's just so biased towards wrestling he
wants he's like there's been no
takedowns in the BF fights like I think
that's what a BMF belt is you know well
it can be Tak Downs if it happens but it
you know just have it just because you
want takedowns bring a wrestler in that
belt is a special belt you know it's
it's it's a wild belt it's like wild
it's wild these are wild fights wild
it's wild you know you know what it's
funny like a lot of them it's funny cuz
I see a lot of These Guys these MMA guys
guys some guys who's just like even
doing MMA I see everything brother from
like low level MMA guys that's trying to
come up to mid to high and I and before
this fight everybody was [ __ ] on the
BMF whatever blah blah blah and then now
that I I got it I'm happy to see that
it's actually getting its worth you know
what I mean at the end of the day
everybody's saying oh no Undisputed well
I was an Undisputed Champion I have the
BMF belt now what is it you know you
cannot tell I well I'm fighting number
one contenders and keep fighting these
number and champions what now you tell
me what it is you know at the end of the
day the Bel was cool and I always tell
everybody the Bel is cool but you guys
got to understand it's what brings with
the belt what what the emotions it
brings and what kind of fight it brings
to a card you know like that that our
fight a lot of people was saying could
have been the main event of 3 you know
what I mean so it's insane you know 100%
and the crazy thing is there was two
insane fights after your fight your
fight was so good that two insane World
title fights afterwards happen after and
still people talk about your fight and I
feel so bad for the girls cuz that I was
watching that fight in the back after
doing my media and it was such a crazy
fight brother but but I think so people
was just they just had a a journaling
dump because of what happened in the
last fight you know I lost my voice bro
I lost my voice I really did I've never
lost my voice ever in a UFC fight but
when you dropped him I as the first time
I ever stood up I couldn't sit down I
was standing up I was just like I saw
that I saw you stand up that's the first
time I it was just what Dana had the
greatest quote in the post uh fight
press conference he said I sell holy
[ __ ] moments when people ask me what do
I do for a living look at this I
couldn't even sit down I had to get up I
had to hold on to those guys I'm holding
on to
them that's awesome it's funny when they
started putting cameras on us because
we've been doing that forever like DC
and I go crazy we hug each other we go
nuts when when something crazy happen
like what what I'm glad I'm glad they
did cuz to see your to see like see fans
and and reactions to the fight is cool
but they're fans but then when you see
like our peers and guys like you and my
fight and and other Fighters and
commentators of the sport that you've
been around forever so to see you do
that that would like that brings a
humous ass smile to my face like holy
[ __ ] I just made Joan stand the hell you
know I say to this day and I I do it
based on my reaction obviously this is
personal I say it's the greatest
knockout of all time the reason why I
say it's the greatest knockout of all
time was because everybody thought that
Justin was going to be overpowering you
he was a bigger guy he had just knocked
out Dustin poier you had lost the last
fight to volkanovski you hadn't been in
title contention since then you had a
bunch of great wins but here you're
going to fight this bigger guy and all
these people were writing you off all
these people were saying that it and
you're tuning him up and you did have to
overcome getting knocked down and you
did have adversity you had deal with
that leg and then for you to stand
winning four rounds to one in the middle
of the Octagon pointed the ground with
10 seconds left and then to knock him
out with 1 second left the way I reacted
the way I jumped up I've never done that
before all even when Leon Edwards
knocked out Usman that was another crazy
one before that I would said that was
the greatest knockout of all time
because he was down he was down four
rounds and John anic just had the
perfect call he said that is not the
cloth from which he is cut talking and
boom land his head kick like it's a
movie yeah so that was number one before
but you are number one now thank you
brother that's number one cuz just
impact all time like complete polar
shift of how people think about the BMF
belt they don't think about it as a
gimmick at all anymore cuz it was the
wildest crazy fight with an undeniable
number one contender in Justin versus
you it's wild how it happened the whole
thing was wild it it I mean Y is good at
your last fight right that's that's
that's what it is this sport I I like to
tell everybody you know this is not like
basketball this is not this is not like
baseball or like hockey where you can
just shut the bed on a Tuesday and then
you come back out on a Friday and then
you you're just a man of the world again
you know like you [ __ ] like like this
stuff happened you have a bad fight like
with Alex that fight don't get erased
off until I have something great and
even if you have a good fight you know
what I mean like I had a good fight with
Arnold but they still like ah Alex did
that and then I did it with Korean and
then I had a uh knockout over Korean
zombie and then they're like yeah but
Korean is old and blah blah blah and
then finally now disj now everybody
forgets you know like it takes us a
while to make you forget about your last
fight you know so it was just it was
amazing bro you know like to see
everybody go crazy like in my mind like
a lot of people ask me what's going to
your mind when you're doing that you're
up 41 I'm like brother that was that was
in my mind the whole time I'm like bro
we going to 10 seconds I was like I
remember counting I remember it being a
minute I remember my coach yelling a
minute Max stay clean and then I was
like a minute I was like oh hell yeah 50
more seconds until we go to the center
we're going to swing in my man and then
he's like seconds I was like holy [ __ ]
this clock is slow you know what I mean
I'm like why is it taking forever and
then he's like C down like 30 seconds
and then he's like okay 20 seconds and
then he does and he go uh he go right
after the 20 seconds mark underneath
couple seconds after he does his Rolling
Thunder and then it pushed me to the
point to perfectly circle out and then
that's when I said I did the like Oh
Come here you know let's let's go here
let's throw it cuz that just everybody's
losing their mind but to me I just this
is normal you know this the second time
this is the second time I did it you
know of course the second time I'm doing
it I heard you guys say it's it the
first time was with Ricardo but there
ain't no Justin uh Justin Gatey you know
but you know why not why not if he if he
was to put if he was going to put me out
then then so be it you know I live by
the sword well it was a a wild ending to
the fight there's a rolling thunder damn
that was a nice Rolling Thunder too that
was nice it was
close now right here oh this is so crazy
Max
oh that was crazy yeah it's the greatest
it has to be the greatest knockout it
has to
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be and then you you flexing walking
around come on man this is that's the
greatest of all time they got the the
sickest picture of me bro they have the
sickest picture of me of when when I'm
flexing and I'm over like I love Justin
bro I freaking love the man but they
have like that you know like the
Muhammed the mamed Le picture yeah they
got a moment of me like that so I got a
painting for you I told you I got a Ross
Baines he's an amazing artist he made an
incredible painting and it's it's on the
way I had someone go back to my house go
grab it sick it's on the way sick but
yeah that was a that was a wild moment
man it it just complete shift of what
people care about in upcoming fights
like you are the [ __ ] man now like
whatever whatever next pay-per-view
you're in holy [ __ ] that's going to be
big and if it's you and makev or if it's
you and Ilia you and Ilia would be crazy
brother brother so much fun so much fun
brother I know I know is that Spain is
that 305 when is uh there going to be a
UFC Perth is 305 right I I don't think
they're going to go Spain this year I
don't think they can I think so Dana
White said it uh said it in the uh in
the 300 conference after fight
conference he said that um uh we're
going with Spain it just takes a time
because you got to book something and
it's like going to be like a year and
out so good that fight should be Vegas
Vegas let's go Vegas I hope I hope Vegas
or Madison Square Garden yeah or or or
uh Vegas Legion Stadium oh
66,000 brother that's what it is did you
use there 300 night brother did you not
see all the Hawaiian Flags they were
everywhere bro that's the that the ninth
Island brother give me you cannot we
can't go to UFC Hawaii give me me
Allegiance stadium and let's that's
that's go crazy there oh my God oh my
God you could sell it allegian stadium
for a big UFC 100% they could sell it I
mean every UFC sells out like that they
sell out so quick there's so many scal
tickets in a fight like that especially
if they put together a banger of a card
cuz you know they're doing the sphere
which is going to be wild yeah that's
going to be wild who you think who you
think going to be in the sphere that's a
good question right because that's isn't
it it's Mexican Independence Day yeah I
like it's September or something yes
it's September yeah well so who I don't
think they have it set up like who
Mexicans like to call me as their own so
I might even be in this spear who knows
they count you for your style yeah yes
sir [ __ ] yeah yeah [ __ ] what a crazy
night Max what a crazy night and uh to
to have that happen again like where
there's two amazing fights after yours
oh yeah and everybody's still just
talking about your F yeah I know I was I
mean even with the uh I remember as soon
as the fight happened you know a couple
minutes after uh my uh my agent Tim
Simpson came in and he told me hey he's
like brother they just put your knockout
on top of on top of Instagram on and
YouTube and everything I was like what
like they never do that yeah they was
like they never do that they only did
this for they only did it for sugar and
I was like what this is crazy so we saw
I thought they was lying you know and
they saw it was there three different
angle and I reposted it yeah I was like
if UFC's posting this I'm posting this
[ __ ] too like this is the craziest
knockout of all time bro the craziest
angle is the one when they they they
they they pause me and then they they
they do a 360 View and then they play it
again I'm like bro that that's that's
insane bro yeah what does it feel like
when it's all over does it feel like a
dream like what does it feel like when
it's over brother I still I you know
like I stood I'm still getting used to
it I don't even know you know I feel
normal I still life stood normal but
like I'm getting brother walking down
Sixth Street last night to get get my
dinner I was getting harassed like not
harassed like nicely harassed but like
people like yeah like I you're getting I
always get notice but like these guys
like it's uh it's out and about way more
you know and so it's just amaz bro even
like guys who don't even look like they
watch fighting you know grandmas and
grandpas at airports like hey you're
you're the guy yeah like yeah I'm the
guy well that clip got so viral too you
know that that clip was so viral it was
everywhere it was Tik Tok and YouTube it
was everywhere yeah bro we uh my so one
of one of my other agent on our team
Daniel he did like uh he's like a
numbers guy or whatever and the Google
the Google search on me was like crazy
bro I think so I think so is in like the
billions like after after it was insane
it was something stupid I was like oh
wow I didn't even know you could look
that up I told him yeah that's what
makes it very interesting for your next
fight because your next fight is going
to be huge it's going to be huge like
you're a [ __ ] Bonafide Superstar now
like your next fight's going to be nuts
can't wait bro can't wait I don't know
who it is who it was what what the UFC
want to do but um the you said that
option bro in this game you all about
option so many options and there's so
many options in your area too right like
sugar has been talking about fighting
Toria at 45 well if Su is willing to
fight Toria at 45 he's willing to fight
Max at 45 right yeah crazy there's crazy
matchups all over the place in a perfect
world you ask me in a perfect world you
know what I mean yeah in a perfect world
if I could have it my way I'd be stupid
to not say the fight Connor you know I
think that con that Connor fight would
be huge whatever but we don't know what
he's going to do so like if that's out
you a perfect Ro to me would be fight
Elia 45 title get my hand raised and
whoever's the next guy up at 55 fight
them try and go for double champ status
whatever it is or even treat belts you
know like 45 the BMF and then put it put
the BMF in the 55 against whoever had 55
and that' be that'd be surreal you know
I think that would be a crazy well
there's another option too if they
really do this Conor 165 title there's
an option of you being a three champ
that would be insane if they did the 165
it would be fun that would be fun you
would have to cut any weight oh no you
could eat sushi every day no I would eat
sushi I would eat sushi weight in day I
would eat on on the on the scale what is
what is your walk around weight like
what's right now me right now I walk
around like before I used to get to a
big boy but now I walk around like 70 75
nothing crazy oh that's not too crazy
yeah nothing crazy nothing crazy I I was
in there against uh they make us check
our weight now and I was I was only 172
when we when we went in in against gatei
when you were fighting a featherweight
what did you win when you fought I I
would be around like 65 I'd get up high
60s maybe 68 at the highest so did you I
know you did a lot of strength and
conditioning your your YouTube channel
is great by the way oh thank you by and
it's it's really cool how you document
pretty much everything you showing all
your training all the different stuff so
you did a lot of strength and
conditioning we did a lot of strength we
did a lot of strength so a lot of people
is talking about um matching G's
strength and and and I our team didn't
want to we wanted to be strong but we
still wanted to be fast we knew we was
faster than G so our our main focus
everybody thought it was strength and
getting big to be strong and to of
course endure his strikes you know but
the main thing that we wanted to focus
on was speed like I knew I could I could
out out gun him and then in the fit run
when we really hurt him hurt him I out
gone them with speed you know I hit like
I hit him with like five five hits and
and the one that you don't see heard you
the most you know and the last right
hand in that in that little combination
early in the fifth round is what hurt
him the most you know made him like I I
I stunned him a little bit so we're just
working on speed brother you know like
we had 12 weeks you you really can't I
wasn't willing to give to put strength
to give up conditioning so I was like
I'm going to be speed and conditioned
and that's the way I fight you know I I
uh if you go look at it a lot of people
was looking at stats for Minds in his
fight of like the how much he chos in
strikes and how much I I throw in
strikes how how much he gets hit which
was less than how much I get hit and I
was like brother that cannot be right
and then the stats is you know and I'm
like no way and then when you look at
the stats this guy had 12 fights and I
had like 20 plus fights in the UFC
that's what come our stats is so close
to each other because I have so much
more fights than he his and then even
that what I had a lot of time in the
octagon and he just didn't cuz he would
he would knock guys out you know what I
mean he he had that beautiful power so
you know at the end of the day like you
know the numbers some of the numbers
that these guys is putting out there I
was like you guys need to do you guys
homework you know you stop looking at
the surface level like start digging
deep into it yeah um when you I was
interesting that what you just said
about uh strength and conditioning you
you're not willing to give up
conditioning for strength uhhuh so so
how do you approach that like when you
when you made a decision to go to 55 so
the poier fight you go to 55 but you did
it on pretty short notice right yeah
yeah we had we we had like so the way we
train is I always take two weeks off
before fight so it was like six weeks
and then so we actually had four weeks
to train for them and I was like I mean
put the picture of Po punching me in my
face there's a famous picture of Po pun
in face explain that when you said do
you take two weeks off before the fight
what do you mean so like uh like
straight and conditioning so I don't do
no straing conditioning like the week
before the fight like maybe we do like a
little lift whatever but it's just
something you maintain like cuz you
can't get faster or stronger two weeks
before fight or even the week right so
even with cardio it's not going to
anything I do the week before the fight
is not going to help me and anything I
do the week of the fight is not going to
help me you all the hard work is done
right and that's what these guys yeah
look look how look how fat I was look
look at that top right one that top
right one right there look how fat I was
yeah look at that yeah that's Muffin Top
Max brother so you just and he Zooms in
wow wow you're an [ __ ]
huh so you only had four weeks and
there's no way you could put on that
amount of muscle in four weeks or
anything you know and I was like uh and
I I didn't uh I didn't have my beautiful
wife at the time so you know eat meals
was crazy before I ate out every night
that was terrible now she cooks me now
she keep uh keeps me clean so it is what
it is you know I hate using exper uh uh
excuses cuz you know Dustin I came out
there and fought hard and we fought hard
and I ain't taking nothing away from
Dustin so whatever I did was on me and
you know if that fight if if we get a
third one then that I think it would' be
a pretty fun one oh it would be amazing
that would be be wild a third fight
between you guys be wild especially if
he beats Islam if he beats Islam that's
Nob brainer that's a no-brainer how much
is the how much is the odds on betting
on him dropping a
Ghillie he's going to
try you know I didn't know that he was
referencing William Montgomery the
comedian when he I ain't never gonna
stop over that's what he was doing he
doing William Montgomery from Kill Tony
I didn't know and I'm a friends with
William Montgomery I love that dude and
I you're not a good friend Ninja what
the hell you know I felt like a bad
friend but really what it is is like
when I'm doing an interview after such a
crazy fight like that you interviews are
complicated like lock I'm trying to get
this guy to express himself as much as
possible I'm trying to stay out of the
way but I'm also trying to ask questions
and so I didn't pick up on it yeah yeah
yeah plus I didn't I was like no way
yeah you're Lo you're locked in bro
you're locked but Tony texted me he goes
did he just quote William Montgomery I'm
like no way really is that what that was
and then and then Willie texted you [ __ ]
you
no they had been going back and forth he
apparently Dustin told him he was going
to say it in his fight yeah yeah yeah
they had been dming each other oh that's
awesome bro Dustin Dustin's the man
broti heing you there have been moments
in the fight where you chose to jump to
guard and try to grab a
guillotine yeah I'll do it and I'll
never stop doing it
it BR that's that's
bro he's one of the good guys in in our
sport he's a great guy he's a great guy
I love Dustin I love Dustin and I was
glad for him to get that that win over
Ben wson Den is a monster Monster killer
bro he's a killer bro yeah and that's
another fight right look ston gets staff
yeah so he's got staff on his forehead
he's got to take antibiotics drain have
you ever had staff no bro knock on wood
that's amazing how' you how have you
avoided staff yeah brother I'm clean I
guess I guess I guess do some guys is
some dirty mother e I think you know
well you can get staff easy you can get
staff easy no I know I know some guys uh
some and once it's in your in your
system you just it just got to get we
awakened right so it's one of our
friends like he's pretty bad with it
like he's always got staff like every
other week feels like oh really yeah
it's terrible he is terrible he take
showers brother he does he does
everything I don't know what it is it's
just bad luck I think another thing is
like people mistakenly use antibacterial
soap like you don't want antibacterial
soap you want to keep your Healthy gut
floor I tell everybody I don't I know
the guy owns the company I've have no
affiliation with it but defense soap if
you're a Grappler it's the [ __ ] defense
soap is all natural it's like tea tree
oil eucalyptus oil and he has all kinds
of products everything from stuff to
clean like wipes if you can't like get
to a shower quick enough if you know if
you're training in a place that's kind
of dingy and doesn't have a shower they
have wipes until you get home they have
soaps and ointments that's the most cra
crazy thing bro right when people like I
see people like we train and then we
have a shower at the gym and some of
them just like change their clothes and
like I got to go I was like the what the
hell did you shower I said no no I got
to leave I was like the hell no way you
know like I I live like 45es some some
of them live like maybe 15 minutes but
15 minutes is enough for a ringworm or
something to [ __ ] wake up you know so
it's like brother just jump in there get
a rinse off yeah I've had ringworm I've
had staff twice I've had ringworm a
couple of times it's annoying it's
annoying ring irritating the defense
soap is the [ __ ] I tell everybody get on
that just make and it doesn't mess up
cuz it's all natural it's like tea tree
oil and eucalyptus oil and smells good
but it doesn't [ __ ] up your skin floor I
had I knew this dude who had ringworm
and so he started using antibacterial
soap and he then got it everywhere he
got all spread all over his chest and
then what it does too it burns your skin
yeah so like so like when you use that
kind of stuff with ringworm I remember
people used to like bleach them and then
you'd be bleach you'd have a bleach
circle like a crazy yeah it's crazy yeah
a lot of psycho dudes use bleach that's
a crazy move to pour a bleach on an open
wound like what the [ __ ] are you what
are you doing man so um so for for this
fight how much notice did you have that
you were going to fight at 55 and that
you're going to fight Justin brother so
there there there is an idea of maybe
maybe that was going to happen for a
while but we didn't know and then we got
we got confirmed I think was like 10 to
12 weeks you know like I I don't know
what it was so it like 10 to 12 weeks so
it was like more than enough time this
is like we had so much time brother we
was planning I got the train I got the
lift I was already we was training a lot
my last fight was in August so I was in
I was in the gym training getting ready
brother after the V after the vul and uh
Islam 2 fight I was like there is no way
they're letting this guy turn around so
I I really thought they was going to try
and ask me me uh to go fight Elia in
January or something I I went to Toronto
I fought in Toronto twice I want an inro
I defended the belt there I I have a
following in Toronto I call it a 10th
Island you know I like to call it but I
love the Canadians they they're
literally the best so I was thinking
like man they would they we're going to
get called you know like there's there's
no way that he's going to fight and
then he did they this moved it from
January of February they put the other
card whatever they switch it around so
we was I was already training and then
yeah I couldn't tell you when but I knew
we had at least 12 weeks at least 12
weeks when did you know that it was
going to be 55 and when did you know it
was going to be for the BMF
belt was 12 weeks 12 weeks 12 weeks had
you already had a plan to put weight on
did you already had a plan like strength
the conditioning plan and oh for sure as
as soon as we as soon as the talks of
maybe we might even fight gatei at all
was like we just got to we our plan was
what I said was like we got to put on
size to endure our damage but then let's
not lose this speed that's my my my my
my head coach Darren y tactical straight
the best straight and condition in all
of Hawaii and if somebody got a problem
then they can they can meet me somewhere
anywhere you know but but you know all
jokes aside he's the he's the man bro
and he's the one that was like yeah you
know like I I like look I know you want
to get strong Max he's the one that came
up with he like I know you want to get
stronger but we still need your speed
bro we still need your speed and we got
to outwork this guy you know like oh he
always weaponized my card he was like
brother whoever we fight you're going to
outwork him so let's just get your speed
up stay fast get a little bit bigger
without B too much to get to to he he
didn't he was the main one he's like I
don't want to give up strength uh uh uh
I don't want to give up conditioning for
strength brother like the idea is the
more muscle you have the more endurance
it's going to require yeah and and
especially like even with with everybody
like I train with bigger guys you know
here and there and I never ever once
felt like holy [ __ ] this guy is so much
stronger than me like I never ever once
felt that way you know you hear these
talks of some people saying oh this
guy's really strong so I try to go with
him I was like ah he's all right you
know it's not like oh my God he's going
to be strong so I felt like I know how
to fight to my strengths I guess like
yeah he might be physically stronger
than me but I know certain techniques or
certain ways to put my body that I can
get away with how strong I am and not
make him feel as strong as he is you
know and and that's what it is you know
I keep telling a lot of these a lot of
these MMA guys are just people coming up
even my amateur uh the are amateur
Fighters that's coming up I just keep
telling them like brother there's no
difference between me and you the only
difference is my experience you know
like that even with even with UFC
fighters you know like the only
difference between top 15 and top 10 is
experience and their mindset you know
top 10 to five experience mindset five
to the championship same thing and then
the champion and maybe like the top
three guys after that is like it's just
a mind it's a mind thing brother this
[ __ ] is easy most of these things that
is hard is because you make it hard a
lot of guys make it hard for themsel I'm
like what are you doing you're beating
yourself up for what this is just
[ __ ] practice get better you know I
mean that's all you got to do stop stop
beating yourself up and um but you have
a great mentality for that you're able
to like go past losses easily it is what
it is and you keep moving and you're on
the path but for some people like losses
are devastating because their whole
identity is based on success and if they
don't get success then they feel like
they're a loser but even with that the
whole identity thing that's what it is
like even when like uh you see guys with
retiring from other sports or our sport
like they have that identity crisis cuz
they're so known for one thing and then
that's come I tell them like that's come
I love doing other this stuff like
people bro oh my God I stream I stream
on kick now I stream on kick.com and um
brother I during the whole fight I'm
streaming they're like yep thank you for
this Max I'm putting my house on gatei
now he's training while you playing
[ __ ] video games I'm like what the
[ __ ] I like bro I need to be training
for 24 hours of a day like a [ __ ]
cyborg or something what the hell like
like yep yep yep you yeah look look at
you over here I freaking I do slots in
there you know G like we play fun like
yep look at you doing this [ __ ] losing
money you're going to lose your fight
too I'm like what the f like bro you
can't catch a break bro those are just
losers unfortunately I don't mean
anything bad to you guys out there but
if you're commenting to a guy like that
you're a loser there's no way you're a
winner it's not possible it's not
possible that you're excelling at
whatever you do no one comes to you like
That's Mike he's the best no one no
chance if you're commenting like that on
people you're just you're a loser and
that's unfortunate I've been a loser in
my life you know it's it's uh it's
common yeah it's common but you're a
loser and winners don't think that way
and the idea that a guy can't play some
video games and unwind while he's in the
middle of a camp you're out of your
[ __ ] mind you don't understand yeah
BR you understand what you're talking
about that's like I I like talking to
Mighty cuz Mighty me and mighty did an
interview might's the best yeah he's a
man and he was just telling me like it's
so funny cuz every time I tell everybody
like fighting is easy like a lot of
people look at me crazy they're like
what you mean it's easy I was like bro
anything you do in life is easy is just
that you make it hard a lot of [ __ ]
make it hard for themselves like you
it's actually pretty easy you know it's
like if you look at the steps these are
the steps yeah you might fall down in in
the sense of in the sense of actually
getting it done it's going to be hard
work but it's easy cuz you know what you
got to do right and I told Mighty when I
told Mighty about fighting Mighty was
the first guy ever that said like bro
that's what I tell everybody I tell
fighting is easy I was like holy [ __ ] if
the MMA goat is telling you fighting is
easy stop harassing me go harass him you
know what I mean go tell him he said it
too I think it's easy for you and I
think it's easy for Mighty because you
guys are real champions you have this
Champion mindset and that's what people
need to learn they need to learn a
mindset for improvement a mindset for
getting better at things and a mindset
for staying positive 100% that's what
it's that's really what it's about 100%
you can apply that to anything in life
so a guy like you that's a champion in
MMA you could do anything man all you
need is just like whatever that thing is
focus on that thing and if you put the
same kind of attention on that thing
that you put on your MMA career oh yeah
that's I told I I I tell everybody I
told uh it's so funny whenever me and my
me and my wife she always I was like you
so lucky I wasn't a surfer I would have
been a world champion Surfer she she
like I I I'm bad at surfing okay I'm bad
but I told her but you're lucky that I
don't put my effort into it cuz I'm
going to be badass yeah I'm sure and
that's a fact how did you get so good at
that jump spinning back kick brother
just practice bro I did anybody show you
do you no do you remember do you
remember me telling you it was here it's
a vile CP about me learning strikes in
the game that's one of the strikes yeah
that's one of the strikes brother I saw
the strikes from the game I like hen bar
hen and baral threw it thre it thre it
nice I was like with Dustin Kimura I
told him brother we need to do this
spinning back kick [ __ ] it's is so good
and it's a secret weapon and and then
the thing is funny cuz I in the game I
was throwing it close like a lot of
people throw it from distance but I
threw it real close like almost in
clinch that's why I asked yeah and and I
told him like bro this is going to be
secret weapon I remember Dustin Kimura
he he he was in the UFC for a little bit
and um and I and I was trying to make
him practice it with me he I remember
him saying one time like [ __ ] this kick
this kick is stupid as hell and then uh
we kept practicing kept
practicing another guy a big guy came
down trained us and he dropped him
spinning back kicked and from the clinch
right and I was like what I told you
brother I told you this [ __ ] kick is
a secret weapon how were you practicing
it close up what a drill he would just
stand close I was like bro like I I we
ID get my timing from from it being a
distance first and then we'd be like
little bit closer and be like bro we got
to all we got to focus on is bringing
our knee up and and then pushing it out
at the last second and the main thing
was just bringing your knee up and
snapping your head around snap your head
around first see where you going to land
so you don't kick each other in the
freaking groin area cuz it happened a
couple times
to me and him so but yeah it was like
bringing the up high look and then and
then push it do do you ever practice
where you stand right next to the bag
yeah I touch the bag with your shoulder
just jumps back jump back and and I I
create my distance from jump me jumping
away from the baging and stabbing yes
exactly if you can develop that that is
a secret weapon because it's one of
those techniques it's like you remember
when the calf kick came along
everybody's got to throw a calf kick if
you could develop that yaer has it Yer
does it really well but this was a giant
moment in the beginning of the look look
how close you are look how close you are
to be able to get that off from there
and to hit him in the nose his nose was
gone yeah it was BR you shattered his
nose at the very end of the first round
and from from then
on what a [ __ ] fight man I watched
that fight at least 10 times no [ __ ]
at least AES I watched it over and over
again in the gym I I would lie to tell
you if I didn't watch it that much and
dude I always pause always pause no
matter what I'm doing if I'm at the gym
I pause for that last 10 seconds just
like this like how is this real how is
this real but you got that jump spinning
back kick down dude you you got it down
um in the most unusual way which is the
hot back and then throw it like Raymond
Daniels does that really good even even
you like back in the day when was a
video game and and I started looking at
SP back kicks I there's a clip of you
hitting a [ __ ] kill in the bag bro
yeah I was like what the [ __ ] jog get
fight was like what the hell is going on
this guy kill you with a spinning back
kick there's only one clip of me in a
tawi no fight and it's Me Knocking a
dude out with a spinning back kick holy
[ __ ] and I sent him flying it was but
it's the same exact move the guy's
moving forward and I just jump and spin
at the same time it was the same move
cuz I was like in the air when I landed
it that's crazy that was my favorite
thing to do so when I see a guy like you
doing it from up close and I know you
learned how to [ __ ] strike from video
games which is so when you told me that
the first time I was like what I thought
oh we went to like a traditional karate
school and then he started studying mu
time when he was 10 no no no no no no we
I saw cool stuff happening in the game I
was like oh bro we could put this
together in real life and bro Dustin we
never have striking coach you know I
didn't have Ivan yet and then after the
Connor fight is when Ivan Ivan Flor
joined my Camp so and then with him with
bro Ivan is a genius like he's like real
like he really he like he loves the
basic stuff but then when I try to tell
him or or short and fancy stuff or I see
mu Tha doing [ __ ] like sweep the leg and
like elbow and stuff or whatever it's
like it's crazy you know like even even
this fight week bro like uh if you watch
the fight a bunch of times I'm I'm doing
this uh right kick I do this right kick
and then I just step over on my right
hand against gatei I just saw we saw
that like we I practiced that I threw
that a bunch of times in other fights
but then like two weeks before the fight
I he sent me a clip on Instagram like oh
look at this watch this and was I forget
who it was but the guy the the way that
guy was right kicking he set up with a
right low kick next one right low kick
right overand and like hurt and kills
guy
with it and I was like holy [ __ ] we know
we know Justin likes to like stay there
after kicks to to throw so I was like
brother this is going to work on Justin
so we just kind of added in our game I
told him bro I think I'm going to throw
this in the fight he's like yeah let's
practice it you know so I Ian Flores is
the man bro he's the man you have an
amazing Camp yeah all my coaches is the
man bro you really do have an amazing
amazing group of people but you also
it's the argument that uh a lot of guys
have been making that a smaller Camp is
maybe better for some athletes cuz
there's a lot of guys who want to go to
like at but you know the guy like I
talked to Jim Miller about this and he
said that he really started improving
much more when he concentrated on
himself and got had a smaller camp and
he stopped teaching yeah sto running his
gym and at the end of the day these big
camps you know like even even in Vegas
bro like I I hear everybody going to
Vegas and training training and and like
bro like one of the guys out there was
telling me was like the W Wild West so
like how do you get better every day
you're going to train and this knowing I
might fight this guy you know what I
mean I might I might have to fight this
guy you know like I have I have guys my
wait some some guys might wait in my in
my class and and I told him brother like
like I would tell him like if we ever
got to the point where we both in the
UFC we're fighting for freaking a lot of
money like you better sign that damn
contract we done kill each other here
but you my brother you know we done kill
each other and stuff for free you'd be
stupid as hell to not take a fight
against me in the UFC or whatever but
that's different from going to a big gym
and like and and actually being wor like
I'm not worried you know if we fight we
fight but like some of these guys you
going in there and fighting your your
life it's like a fight every day of the
week and that [ __ ] is going to [ __ ]
like mentally brother that is going to
beat you down every day going like oh my
God I'm fighting for my life here oh my
God like bro I feel I feel fight like
everybody can can call me a liar and
whatever but bro in the fight I'm
nervous as hell in the back bro with the
Justin fight um this last one I was
telling people I was like what the [ __ ]
what the [ __ ] am I doing here why am I
fighting Justin what the hell are you
doing Max you know like like that bro
I'm not even lying I'm in the back I'm
in the back thinging like [ __ ] like
what are we doing you told you told me
this is the last time what the hell it's
like now you're on USC 300 you be a
[ __ ] a million people going to buy
this pay-per-view what the hell are you
doing and then I soon as the the the
lights come on I start hearing my song
that's when it changes you know then
it's like it's gool time it's like nah
Max you can't be [ __ ] working at
McDonald's making this much money let's
go get this paper you know what I mean
you you got to own McDonald's if you're
making this much money brother own [ __ ]
so let's you can own multiple McDonald's
with your next one after that fight that
was the so that was the that was it you
know so you got to switch uh flip the
switch and then and a lot of my coaches
they didn't know my walk out song was
funny cuz they was like is he going to
do cuz they was waiting for me to walk
out to Israel song Right kamak is he
going to do it is he going to do it and
then we walked up to Hawaiian uh
Hawaiian Superman Mai hawaian Superman
so I loved it bro I think it was perfect
they made the you was out there in the
crowd I don't know if you could see it
oh yeah on your screen they made it look
like the ocean bro M they made they made
me look like it was the ocean and the
the the way we had to turn in our song
so Early bro so like usually I can turn
in my song like the week of the fight or
the week before the fight walk out song
but Heidi hit us up like eight six weeks
out he's like hey we need you guys walk
out song now cuz we're trying to do
something and then that was what they
did they the lights that was on the
chairs that all the guys had they made
it they made it go to the song like they
made M look like the ocean so it was
like wavy but then Justin's one was sick
cuz like every time The Beat hit the
lights on the the stuff went up or like
whatever I was like who that's cool so
what was Justin's walkout song I I
forget but it it was a really good song
bro I was I liked it is a really good
song Yeah there some Banger walk out
songs man but polon when that
[ __ ] walks
out I didn't even hear it is it crazy
bro he's the scariest [ __ ] when
he walks out cuz he stands there he
walks out like this and he stands there
dra the bow back and
goes and then he throws a couple of
punes like he does his one bro
so you know what is funny you know I
don't know if you ever watched that kid
of like he mimics like he mimics fights
or Fighters yeah a kid so he was at the
press conference bro and the whole
[ __ ] press conference I see him and
he's trying the one two three one two
three bro the whole time he got busted
from a uh from a security guard to sit
down but the whole time that I watched
him he was throwing it I was like bro
that that kid is crazy have you sent
Mighty Mouse to everybody no no no
Mighty Mouse there's a video of Mighty
Mouse where they face SW I I called him
on I said why didn't make M he's like oh
bro I got you I got you the next one
yeah he can do everybody yeah yeah he
was good but he's he mimics everyone's
style he does kib he does Connor he does
Soo he does everybody bro he's a beast
bro Mighty Mouse is the goat he a when I
say when I say the best martial artist
that I've ever seen in terms of like the
expression of martial arts he's my
favorite it's him he's the bro if if you
don't have him if you don't have him on
top your your your your MMA rush Mount
War whatever yeah Rush M Rushmore I
think of my son when I said rush Mount
Rushmore but if you don't have him on it
you're just a hater yeah you have to be
a hater yeah everybody everybody keep
talking about like even that like
everybody keep talking about like oh
he's only 125 I was like the
walk see see it blinks I don't know
who's saying those names I what is that
I had this thing going too oh so here's
here's might show The Mighty Mouse one
that's incredible so here's Mighty Mouse
pretending to be cejudo Strickland so
they they switch
Strickland BR it looks exactly like him
it's
crazy
McGregor McGregor that is good bro oh my
God it's
amazing Mighty Mouse he does that aaga
too yeah look at this
wow you hear Yuri prosus talking about
going down to 85 is he yeah he
apparently didn't cut any weight for
that fight yeah I I yeah me and him is
managed by by the same guy and that's
what I heard too he's a wild boy bro bro
did you not see that he was outside of
USC 300 yeah at 4:00 in the morning yeah
yeah yeah outside of T-Mobile yeah yeah
and the fans looking scared as hell to
go that dude's real he's so cool bro
he's so bro did you not see he just
freaking won the you know he's the other
one that won the 200 bonus right then
the first post I'm back home I'm in my
Hut how are we doing guys like he live
bro he actually lives in that Hut in the
forest does he really yeah bro he works
out punching trees dude's out there
throwing front kicks at trees and [ __ ]
the the guy the guy is unreal bro the
guy is unreal bro animal he's an cuz
racket was putting it on him man and he
was just melting racket they some big
dudes so like all all fight week when I
when I went to the pi racket was me
Racket and heal and these bro these guys
some big guys but I'm like holy [ __ ] you
guys some big you guys some big dudes
yeah they're huge and Yuri at 185 would
be terrifying he's got such a crazy
style man I mean there's no one that
fights like that guy like if you saw his
silhouette you would be able to tell
instantly that's Braska yeah yeah yeah
yeah but he does have hands down chin
forward you know the [ __ ] crazy hair
Samurai fun bro he's he he just a Sam
Bro that Samurai Spirit bro is is it's
not a facade no he really like a lot of
guys think yeah no he's like and he's a
real bro he's a really nice guy like you
ever talk story to him yeah I've talked
to him bro he's so nice he's so he's
very quiet like he's his tone is very
yeah I'm good brother yeah like like bro
he's almost like he's like the guy that
you call to go kill somebody for you
Hitman you know he's like I need a
Hitman okay brother I got you yeah
exactly exactly so that fight was a wild
fight too it's like there's so many
fights that got lost the the fight your
fight especially that knockout was so
crazy that people forgot that you [ __ ]
Dustin up the first part of the fifth
round like I kind of forgot about it
until I watched it again I was like oh
yeah he had him almost out yeah almost
heard him almost heard him almost heard
him but you know oh you heard him even
even even even when uh I called my dad
you know and you're going to love this
one but then I I went like this and then
when I was when I was flirting him every
even in every round every time I HT him
I'd come in I'd do a little bit and if
it didn't put him down or hurt him more
I just backed off cuz everybody's like
why is he not attacking why is he not
attacking I'm like brother every time I
heard him he had the craziest look in
his eyes brother and one time he said
let's get it on so I was okay you know I
was like no I'm okay brother I'm I'm
here I'm going to keep picking you you
know but he did he did but all jokes ins
like he did have the craziest look in
his eyes brother it was it was crazy
like I would H I was like why are you
even standing bro you know like and then
I just thinking yeah you're all right
you're Justin gatei yeah you're a
freaking highlight you know so well he
said the wildest [ __ ] before the fight
said I I don't make plans after my
fights cuz I don't plan on being yeah
when I saw that I was like what the f is
this guy human you know what I mean how
the hell did he get led into wakanda
it's not a very wakanda mindset you
know uh oh there's one thing that has
come up that I think we probably should
talk about and it's uh the paja Jamal
Hill
knockout and it is it's an interesting
thing that was brought up and I didn't
think anything of it at the time and
then I watched it again I was like
there's kind of a point there and the
point is Jamal accidentally hits him low
he like kicks him in the hip and uh Herb
Dean comes in to stop it and then do he
he does Super gangster thing but in the
meantime Jamal has stopped in Rel
relaxed after he threw the kick he gives
him a thumbs up like you cool and then P
does it and then P advances and then
herb is to the left so it's like he
can't even move too much to the left and
all of a sudden he's on him and he hits
him with that left hook and I think
Jamal is saying I would have never let
him that close to me yeah if it wasn't
for that nut shot and I didn't know
exactly what was going on so herb had
stopped it herb is out of his field of
vision herb is over here so when Herb's
doing this I don't know he said I don't
know if let's see if we can watch it cuz
he St he St I think so I think so I know
what you're saying cuz even there like
he stands there and like kind of like
like half half like touch gloves with
him right and then like and and Alex is
like using a touch glove to step in St
and then Alex CHS the left foot Alex
steps on his foot too steps on his foot
that's the old that's the old boxing
trip old boxing trip
soux so he steps on his front foot and
then hits him with that left hook from
Hell his left hook is a crazy weapon man
brother the thing don't even look hard
it's crazy tell me not it just looks
like and then when did you not see the
jol that it sent down his body yeah you
see his eyes roll he he he almost did a
was he the one that knocked out Johnny
Walker yeah yeah he almost did the he
almost did the Johnny Walker like his
body like kind of extended that was kind
of crazy I was like Wow crazy and is was
a glancing blow glancing brother and it
was like a it was even a hook was like a
uppercut hook yeah like a shovel hook
yeah like yeah like a Mexican hook the
way he lands it man
like he don't give a [ __ ] Bro the fight
that he got before he fought in the UFC
did you ever see that one no is the most
vicious left hook knockout of all time
he hits a dude with a high kick the guy
blocks it he steps the guy steps quack
he just cleanly his you know he's got
that long frame he's so long and there's
all this torque and he just torqus his
whole body and whips across it sounds
like a like a baseball bat hit in a
watermelon just [ __ ] and the dude just
drops face how are how are people just
have that kind of power right his power
is crazy he he punched the the machine
91 SP back kick did you you kick I never
kicked a spinning back kick but with a
roundhouse kick I got to
152 that's crazy but the difference
between that and 190 with one punch here
it is yeah he clips now let's let's back
it up again because let's make the
argument let's see what happens so go
all the way to the nutsh shot so here's
the nutshot
so now I watch watch Jamal Jamal stops
watch his legs his lock legs lock up
he's relaxed he gives a thumbs up we
cool we cool and he touches herb so now
they're back at it yeah but look at his
St he's ready to to paa peda has never
relaxed so this time has gone on with
this is a little we're doing it in slow
motion right let's do it in real speed
so here we see
this so you know the fight had started
the fight have restarted but would that
have would that position have taken
place if it wasn't for Jamal relaxing
yeah give him the thumbs up so you you
know like not his fight so my fight the
number one thing when I was going with
Justin was just be on all the time right
like just [ __ ] Max like I was just in
the back to myself mentally physically
you need to be here every [ __ ] second
every millisecond brother cuz is a crazy
thing cuz you one one one millisecond
off lights can turn off Max you need to
be on so that was the main thing that I
was telling myself the whole fight you
know like with that like if I was in a
situation I don't give a [ __ ] what the I
would have [ __ ] I would have told her
[ __ ] are we going like I would
have been like come on like I should
would have been ready you know like it's
protect yourself at all times you know
there is a a weird millisecond where no
one knows what's going on and when paja
is still moving but paa is in look at
paa he's that Miller he's still like
he's going to B Arrow your ass again
watch it again so the low kick and then
as Jamal but stop it go all the way from
the beginning watch this so when Jamal
lands the kick he touches him and then
he makes look at the distance he closes
see close right there right there yeah
look distance but back it up again so
you see the distance that Jamal's
maintaining initially then he throws the
kick now watch this they pause Jamal
thumbs up but P has closed the Gap now
right there yeah look how close he is
he's closed the gap lot more than he
Jamal probably would have let him now
it's a mistake by Jamal protect yourself
at all times but also it it does seem
like there's a moment of confusion there
is there is I mean because he does close
that distance he does bro significantly
it's like a double step watch from here
today yeah he hops he hops in yeah look
right there hop hop yeah and now you're
in the danger zone that's [ __ ] Kenny
Rogers or Kenny loggin highway to the
danger zone oh yeah and so once he does
that that little in he takes advantage
of that moment to close the gap yeah the
left H is so clean bro look at this so
he doesn't stop when herb stops him he
closes when he puts her he closes the he
Clos the distance and then to to her
toop yeah yeah or during that that whole
watch it it's this yeah so he touches it
he hop close the distance while Jamal's
legs are straight so Jamal gives him the
thumbs up and peda had a double hop in
that time yeah yeah yeah and and and
Jamal didn't know yeah this is a this is
a real moment now I'm not making any
excuses for Jamal and Jamal can take a
loss as good as anybody and after the
Paul Craig fight he's like I [ __ ] up
you got me this is it but he's got a
point here it's it's not a perfect point
because they had engaged again I know
what you mean had closed that Gap to a
point where Jamal was not letting him do
that early but but then again like you
know playing devil advocate you know
nothing but love for for Jamal but [ __ ]
bro you just you need to be locked in
there who the [ __ ] cares you know like
you're fighting another dangerous man a
man across you that you know you each
other you guys Land one good shot you
guys both can put each other away it's
like I don't know bro because at the end
of the day it's a mistake on his part
you have to be but with her like it
sucks you know like how much times do we
hear or a a a a freaking judge or even a
ref screwing up the fight you know what
I mean so it's like you need to like
anybody Fighters amateur Level Pro level
the best fighters in the world whatever
it is don't don't don't put it in these
guys hands man I mean it's it's easier
said than done but don't leave it you
know like It's just tough yeah just be
aware you know like you do have a third
man in there they are supposed to be
looking out for you but how much times
do we see was sometimes it that's just
not the case or it's just too early you
know so at the end of the day [ __ ] it
sucks but what you going to do there you
you know what I mean like all we're
going to do is we're going to have this
kind of talks and arguments and he's
going to have arguments and stuff and
nothing's going to get changed you
here's the question like what is the
protocol when a referee steps in and
says stop because there's a even with
him tell him stop the protocol should
have been like okay separ okay whatever
go back to the middle like you pushed
him against the cage whatever and we saw
you hop okay you want me to stuff back
up a little bit let's let me go he needs
to still go in the middle of them and be
like okay fight right you you can't be
like get stopped and then moved off to
the side okay fight fight to he cuz if
if uh if what's his name Jamal couldn't
see him I could understand like in his
peripheral like he's just focused you
know and then and then maybe stuff stays
fight and I'm just focused on you like
okay what's going on you know right
there's there's definitely an argument
that if you're going to do that and
you're going to stop a fight momentarily
even if you're going to restart it you
have to understand that the momentum has
stopped things have changed and if one
guy does this and hops in during that
time you kind of have to step and
separate them and then engage so he does
the engage off he goes off to the side
but now the argument against that that
I've heard is that this happens all the
times where Fighters get kicked and the
referee says hold on the fighter says
I'm fine and then they let him keep
going so maybe that's a good argument
too that Jamal should have been more
prepared but it seems like he had
actually told him to stop and that's
when Jamal did this
yeah or excuse me Alex did this so is
that up to the fighter what are the
rules what are the rules moment like
when the referee says stop are the
fighters allowed to say no I'm fine or
are they supposed to address the referee
and say I'm fine he said time yeah he
says time and he puts his hand up and
now where's herb Her herde Moves away
Jamal does not have eyes on him yeah
yeah you're looking at him the whole
time cuz he's not trying to get cracked
Jamal does but is much closer to to him
now yeah he's much closer and no nobody
but look at the angle that he takes too
like Alex is Alex is St he's cutting off
the cage there bro yeah he's cutting off
the cage you pushing him to his right to
cut off the cage bro look and herb is
right to Jamal's left yeah look at that
that
was that was beautiful was beautiful
beautiful that was crazy he's a Monster
yeah that guy's a monster I was telling
everybody about that guy when he was in
glory when they were saying he was
coming over to the UFC I was like I told
DC I go dude get ready for this
[ __ ] cuz this [ __ ] puts
people into orbit brother he's got crazy
power brother the wormholes bro
universes different universes you wake
up on the other side of Might he might
have actually you know since we're
talking about wakanda he might be like a
do a strange guy he might have the ring
on bro look underneath his glove or
something that's what's happening bro
well but he is is a real Amazon Warrior
like that's his gen his gen yeah you see
him bro you see him go back to to his
village yeah all painted up and stuff
like like a leopard yeah bro bro guy's a
g bro he's a g he's a real deal he's a
real deal he's a man how the [ __ ] was he
ever making 185 is the big question and
how much do you think that compromised
his chin when he went down a lot bro so
the thing you know you know what he's
crazy you know here's the walk look at
this F bro that [ __ ] is
terrifying look at his eyes
[Music]
man and everybody just like and he told
Jamal when I make my walk in then you'll
think about all these things you said
said yeah he
[Applause]
did and the whole audience yells out H
with
him look at Jamal though he caught the
did did you see it in the other angle he
caught the arrow he broke it yeah that
was that was cool Jamal was telling me
when I talked to him about it he said he
feels like he was winning that fight he
said he was implementing his his
strategy he was uh he landed that one
good right hook in the first round and
he felt like he was on his way he felt
like he was doing everything he wanted
to do not letting that dude get close
but that thing [ __ ] him up yeah I mean
that that there's a real there's a real
moment there a that's a sport right like
you know what it's funny brother you
know like you know nothing to Jamal
whatever but what is crazy is that when
I read when I read uh I see comments or
I see people talking about our fight and
like guys are like bringing up like oh
yeah just imagine imagine if Justin did
didn't break his nose it would have been
a whole different fight I'm like well
thank the Lord I I land my spinning back
kit cuz his nose is broken you know I
mean imagine if you didn't knock him out
yeah oh or just imagine if I broke my
ankle walking into the freaking octagon
brother there's so much stuff I'm like
what are like people are so crazy I'm
like oh my God like just enjoy it why
can't you guys enjoy it why can't you
guys let have other people have stuff
you know like why can't we have nice
stuff this is why we can't have good
things again it's just losers you know
you think Michael Jordan's leaving
YouTube comments no it's winners don't
have time for that [ __ ] but that's also
part of the game you you're going to
have to deal with those people that any
how anybody could say imagine if you
didn't land something that you landed
that you planned for that you executed
that's very hard to pull off a spinning
back kick where you literally ride in
front of each other like that and you
land it to his face yeah bro we KN we
knew he was going to duck looking for
the time you know yeah it was perfect it
was perfect and it was such a a great
moment on that night night because that
night was magical bro three y bro you
havec three I I my my head is still not
wrapped around it you know like how you
said how do I feel I don't know how I
feel yet cuz it's still not right like
to have that to to to to uh to be one of
the guys to it it started from all the
way outside of fight brother somebody
asked me to get the the belt wrapped
around uh Mark Coleman like when they
asked me who I think and then I said
Mark Coleman you know I'm like bro he's
the guy he that his his house with his
fires and stuff just
like he's the man and then to it being
UFC 300 to to uh us getting asked oh
what about the how much should the
freaking bonuses be and I'm fcking
screaming 300K
3kk and Dustin Dustin and freaking Dana
to be like 300K I'm like holy [ __ ] and
to win both the bonuses bro it's it was
just crazy and then to have the like you
said bro that's a movie finish bro to
the to hit him with a over to hit the it
was like a David versus Goliath kind of
kind of story going against him you know
and then to to hit him with that
overhand is like me hitting hitting him
with the slingshot you know so and the
Rock at the perfect place perfect time
yeah the perfect bro this is UFC 300
nobody's an event getting put together
this is not going to top nothing to 400
and we don't even know if 400 is going
to top it you know what I mean like we
we don't know we don't know it's going
to be almost impossible to top that like
every card after that you look at the
card you're like eh it's okay it's
pretty good bro I know it's crazy it's
crazy and then a lot of people and then
bro Dana White is the he's the ultimate
troll bro I love I love Dana White them
when they troll people when they you saw
the video yeah brother when he saw the
video he's calling out you know how much
people on top of that video too also did
videos of of me talking about how I was
like under gun and pillow pillow
Holloway pillow hands hallay is going to
get killed and I am going to be the F
Tony 2.0 whatever I was like brother you
guys just watch and I that all their
tones Chang and now they're making money
off of me I should go write them all all
money and be like hey brother you owe me
10% of YouTube freaking
CH there's all these people that have
these takes where they know what's going
to happen it's such a stupid thing to do
you don't know what's going to happen
you can talk about someone's strength
opinion yeah you can talk about you can
have an opinion but when people say
stuff I'm like bro that's crazy it's
just dumb it's just dumb you know you
you should talk about someone's skills
and what they can do and this could be a
factor and that could be a factor but to
say this is going to happen that is
folly that's a stupid way to look at
things there's not a chance in hell that
you know when two world class martial
artists fight there's no chance all the
time yeah there's no chance you know I
saw a lot of people doing that with uh
the um uh the fight this past weekend
with um uh with Devon Haney Ryan Garcia
everybody was counting out Ryan Garcia
so many people did you see how much he
bet him himself 2 million bucks can we
do that on ourselves what did he win how
much did he win 12 million so he bet 2
million to win 12 12 million and he paid
and he paid $2.1 million in uh in in
fees so he won 10 million so I think he
paid 1.5 in fees cuz he's three pound
over right he he paid 1.5 to to to D to
Haney cuz he said 500 every weight right
every pound and he had to pay an the
extra 600 or 500 to the commission wow
so so that's what so it's was like $2.1
million he had to bro and he's like and
he beted himself he's like bro I don't
give a [ __ ]
yeah good a wild boy dude that left
hookie has a thing of beauty it's fast
bro it's so fast bro so fast it's so
fast bro and it and it's so fast and it
hits so hard cuz even did you see the
way Haney like or not even not only
Haney but every time he lands it on
anybody they're like yeah they're like
they go who yeah they're getting like
shocked it comes at you so much faster
than other punches it reminds me a lot
of Roy Jones in his prime yeah like Roy
Jones Jr in his prime barely threw Jabs
which is so crazy that a guy would be so
fast that he could hit you with a
leaping left hook cuz his jab was a
leaping left hook crazy you ever seen
his his biceps the difference yeah yeah
his left bicep is twice the size of his
right bicep it's nuts he might have been
he might have been an arm wrestler then
who knows Roy Jones had the craziest
style of all time and when he was in his
prime that dude was
Untouchable every fight was an execution
bro crazy body head bangers bro he he
was a he was so fat he's the only guy in
compy box history that didn't didn't get
a sing s Le punch landed on him in a
round for real yeah when he fought
Vinnie Penza didn't get a single punch
land and then he just put it on him and
then he tried to stop the fight himself
he looked at the referee he's like stop
this fight and the referee's like keep
fighting he's like all right and he goes
like that he does like that and he just
Tunes him up and koos him bro what a
beast bro what a beast but that left
hook is a weapon if you got a left hook
like Ryan Garcia like my God that
thing's fast Ryan at freaking Pereira
but
how smart is javante for making him go
to 135 and then making giving him a
weight Clause you can't rehydrate more
than 10 pound who's behind him who's
behind him Brother The Money Mayweather
that guy is Smart Bro that guy is's a
businessman these guys are businessman
you know like it same thing that that
Floyd did to Canelo yeah same exact
thing and was you know it's more funny
Canelo them Canelo them uh played into
his game and said no you know what we'll
come down to this weight he didn't ask
he was he was going to give them the
extra five but then what Claus and he
said oh what you want to come here you
can come here and a weight claw bro
those guy he's bro he's a businessman
bro and you got you got to respect it
you know yes you have to and for javante
that was perfect because I would love to
see Ryan Garcia the one that we saw
fully hydrated against Devon Haney
against javante a problem he's going to
be a problem for everybody he's going to
be a problem speed is bananas yeah you
see him shadow box like throw com oh
yeah is this sped up how are you so fast
yeah it's it's it's it's not fair he
might have one of the fastest left hooks
I've ever seen for sure I mean it's it's
right up there with everybody that all
the great left hookers of the past but
he and the crazy thing is like bro he
don't even bring it out he just goes
from right here right there whip like a
whip and just kills guys he has so much
power from short short distance just
nothing just turns it over and he can
hit you with multiple ones in a row hey
he just keep trying left fols he don't
even believe in Jabs and the funny thing
was the troll job like he was on bro
when he they he talked about I saw I
just saw the interview the other night
David yeah when he when he did the he's
like yeah you know that one interview I
was like doing all that stuff people
thought I was crazy I was like bro I
don't give a [ __ ] I was like oh I was
like wow I was like this guy's bro he
should be an actor yeah he he really had
a smart strategy act like he was crazy
act like he was crazy come in three
pounds every and this sh bro he he sold
it all the way to yeah getting into that
bro I bet him coming in three lbs heavy
made the line move forward more towards
Haney oh I'm sure like this guy's not
training yeah he's out shap he didn't
prepare he's crazy he's mentally
unstable yeah yeah jokes on you but he
he left straight to the B there was some
bad refereeing in that fight too because
there was two knock Downs two drops and
it didn't come that was crazy real bad
real bad those were two legitimate
knockdowns in a round where he already
knocked him down once so he knocked him
down three times in that fight wouldn't
wouldn't have been like a TQ already I
don't know if they had a three knockdown
rule um it wasn't for the title right
because Devin gets to keep the title so
I think so it was yeah he keep the title
but even if he win I think so he did
yeah he would have had that I mean
whatever yeah but [ __ ] that title that
TI like that's crazy keeping that
title's crazy yeah yeah after did you
bro you know there more crazy there's a
post of him being like yeah I still got
the title I'm like wow yeah it's kind of
crazy to think yeah I would well he just
trying to come up with some sort I mean
he got humiliated yeah he got hum it
sucks this fight bro this fight game is
wild bro it's a wild game it's the [ __ ]
it's the most craziest game ever brother
most ruthless game you be on top of the
world one day and will fight like that
you're just no one even cares you know
anymore yep yeah it's crazy yeah you
could be Ben asran you know and boom one
shot and and then that's what everybody
remembers an amazing career dominates in
Bellator dominated in one FC comes over
to America beats Robbie Lawler in a
weird one remember that kind of weird
slammed him he slammed him in a headlock
and Robbie wasn't out Robbie was
defending and they they thought I don't
know who made that call I forget who who
was the referee but they thought he was
out and he wasn't out and Robbie's like
what the [ __ ] I wasn't out and they
called the fight and
then Jes Street Jesus hits him with some
[ __ ] nuclear lightning brother the
Sprint oh my God and then turn the angle
like he cuts angle so that so that Ben
like his instincts kick in like shoot
for the taked down runs right out and it
just goes right into it man and then he
does the freaking three
pie yeah he hits him in a couple three
piece when he's down and then slaps the
the floor and lays next to him crazy bro
yeah it was wild that was one of the
wildest Knockouts too that's that's
another one that's another one but the
consequences are different than yours
yours is different and it's the fact
that you decided to stand in the cage in
the center in the last 10 seconds and
that you had planned that out did your
corner know you were planning that out
oh they know already I mean they they
they know they they they they you ask
any of them and then you tell them like
bro do you guys think I never told them
but they already know who I am as a
fighter we' been I've been with these
guys for like 15 16 years of my life
like half of my life brother I've been
with these guys you know wow actually I
think 14 years I think it's 14 little
bit under half of my life with these
guys so they know me you know and like
you can even do you have the corner sh
in the corner like Ryland is like hiding
cuz he know it's happening already you
know and then my my my striking coach
already knows that it's going to go they
know like I asked them after they did
interviews and interviews and they asked
him did you know Max was going to do
that he's like he didn't tell us but we
had a feeling that if he went to the
last 10 seconds look look look look look
look look Ry ry's
hiding he's hiding under his eyes
brother look at your guys SC look at
them screaming bro you know what is
funny that guy Michael is like 53 so
he's like holding himself up on there
bro his legs is dangling and he's
kicking in the air imagine that I wish
they had a full screen he's on up there
like wow that was wild man and then
shout out to my best friend birdie bird
Jordan Reed in the back since uh the
news didn't catch it that him they named
every corner man except for him in the
back so here's a question Jamal Hill
loses that fight and now he's gonna
fight khil Round Tree bro that was a
don't don't you think do you think
that's a fast turn around I don't know
it's a very fast turn around it's only
two months yeah it's two months and he's
f h Brown tree is a Savage brother do
you know F like you owe him money yeah
you owe him a lot of money you do owe
him a lot of money that's how he fights
you yeah he fights you like you stole
something from him his contract is
probably a short wind so you he owes you
you owe him win money that Sid kick that
he did to the knee that that's the he
was jumping into that thing horrible
that's nasty bro horrible watch his knee
Bend backwards khil I remember when khir
fought uh Eric Anders he came back from
Thailand so he fights Johnny Walker and
Johnny Walker catches him with an elbow
in the clinch and he decides like I got
to really learn Muay Thai clinching
elbows he goes to Thailand and then he
fights Eric Anders and he comes out
looking like a TIE fighter l k yeah
where did he fight I think I watch that
fight what fight uh see if we can find
uh khil rry versus Eric I think that was
on the the V I think that was in Vegas I
think that was on the V 3 fight I
believe it was in Vegas cuz I remember
on the F me and DC were like what
happened like he was always a very good
fighter he was always a very good
standup fighter too but like he went
through this leap in this fight see if
you get like early in the fight when the
leg kicks were insane and it's the the
way he's moving he's moving like a tie
this whole thing was just a second round
oh okay he was moving like a tie like
his front leg he's like tapping with the
front leg Yeah Yeah and and yeah there
yeah look his friend leg going already I
mean it was very like Tha style adapted
to MMA but we were just like my God like
he's looks so much better than we've
seen him before there was something
about like he made this decision after
that Johnny Walker fight and then
started going to Thailand and just
kicked his game up several notches and
now you know he gets this opportunity
for a guy like khil to fight a guy who
also just got ko'ed
right just got KO just two months ago so
most people would say hey this is too
soon yeah a lot of people would say this
is too soon but I get it Jamal wants to
get back in there he feels like that was
a [ __ ] up and he wants to erase it he
says he's fine but this is a he's a
[ __ ] scary cat man yeah but because
even with even with the Jamal heel
incident right how much shots did he get
take on the ground took a few hard ones
hard hard Hammer so whatever but it's
the left hook that makes his eyes
back but khil is a monster bro but he
but imagine heel bro imagine if you're
in you're in this situation right you're
in issues like how you said this guy
just got knocked out bro you go out
there you knock this guy out guess guess
what guess what you're doing next fight
you're fighting for a title you're
fighting for a title brother you are
fighting Alex Pereira for a title
imagine imag khil and Alex Pera holy God
[ __ ] man it just be violence bro oh
crazy violence and you know khalil's had
moments in his career where he was like
like not totally focused and then he's
had moments where he's really focused
and you see it like in his endurance in
the fight like there fights that he's
lost where just like he wasn't really
there but then you see him when he's
really focused like it's like you got to
pay attention to what he's capable of
like you could look at a fighter
sometimes and you could look at bad
fight like some like a good example is
Charles Oliva if you go and watch
Charles Olivera some of his earlier
fights it looks like he kind of like
folded and then something happened after
the birth of his daughter where Charles
Ola becomes this [ __ ] assassin yeah
he's just an and he just has no quit in
him he's just an animal and it's just
like everybody just forgot about that
old [ __ ] like no he's the [ __ ] man
yeah and they forgot about the Cub
Swanson fight they forgot about all
these other fights they forgot about the
Paul Felder fight they forgot about
those fights like [ __ ] all that fight
what is HE capable of when he's on and
that's I think what you got to do with
KH that's why this is a dangerous fight
because J Jamal's a bad man and he's a
dangerous dude and he can knock out
anybody for sure both bro it's going to
be but so's khil it's going to be
violent bro I Jamal going to have to
watch his kneecaps bro she's going to
have to watch his legs everything and
khil is also Southpaw so Jamal standing
Southpaw you know he likes bro that was
horrific that was horrific I mean he
just sidekicked the [ __ ] out of his knee
just blew it apart man and that real
controversial because a lot of people
like man that ends your career but that
does he's
back don't don't he's he's a [ __ ]
Animal Man I mean he's so skillful and
so intelligent and his standup and it's
just like it's super super high level
man Bro Look he tried to trust kick a
guy in his body while he's yeah he well
he's done that before he's body kick
guys while down stands up and body kicks
him in Hawaii bro I got into uh I got to
argument with a ref cuz one of our
Fighters like body kicked someone was
down and they stopped the like they
stopped the fight to give the kid a time
and they was like I was like what are
you doing and he's like you can't body
kick on the ground I was like you cannot
body kick I a down opponent to the head
you can body kick uh you can't kick him
to the body you just can't kick him to
the head he like no you can't do that I
was like what are you watching I was
saying you don't know the rules unless
they modified the rules no bro the the
rules doesn't modified bro I almost
that's just bad ref yeah I almost got a
[ __ ] point deducted from my from my
from my one of my boys I was like bro
I'm so sorry bro but like that that was
supposed to be a TKO yeah you you you
TKO this kid bro that's ridiculous
that's just bad referee I I I really
think that the problem the only problem
with knees to the head on the ground and
kicks to the ground is the cage if there
was no cage no place where you couldn't
move and someone could stomp you all
that [ __ ] should be on the table because
it it's these are valid techniques if
you can knee someone to the head in a
clinch if you could scissor knee someone
like paja did with molus if you could do
that kind of [ __ ] like why can't you
knee a guy to the head on the ground and
you know what it is bro and and if you
and if you do do that you know how much
more of this like this safe area of
people's playing with their hand on the
ground hand up you know how much more it
people want to do that they're going to
go all the way to the ground or they
going to like fight your tent
intelligently and then they're going to
go instead of going down and playing
that that game bro like yeah the H the
having a moment where you're safer
because of a rule is never a good thing
no it's it's it's it's terrible changes
the the whole way you compete you you'll
do that you'll let a guy have your back
you put your hand on the ground cuz you
know his knee's right there and when in
reality you got to get out of that spot
same thing with being in a turtle if
you're in a turtle and a guys like like
Mark Coleman and pride can just drop
those knees on your head remember they
let him do that in Pride so when guys
turtle in the UFC you cannot KNE them in
the head which is a perfect time to KN
them in the head but then even that cuz
then when they do turtle right so say
I'm fighting someone and I see someone
Turtle it it's like half a second of
them resting because I'm thinking like
[ __ ] now I got to be smart of where I'm
picking this and what I'm doing you know
like the back of the head rule 100% you
knowly but like if if I can soccer kick
you cuz you're doing that like that it's
so easy to like boom bo see you down
there I kick you right in your head you
know like but I don't know bro and if
you know that that's one of the options
you won't stay in that position you
protect yourself the guy's not going to
be turtled you know guess even like guys
that like taking knees knees uh down and
they're like this on the on the ground
already it's like they know what they're
doing exactly you know what you're doing
bro that's so and then if I come in and
do something wrong you get a take down
and you're on top now right like come on
bro that's Reon why people were so mad
at Alain when Alain won the title from p
p hits him with an illegal knee when
he's down but that LE that knee should
be legal you shouldn't be able to be on
your knees in a fight I think so you're
are you able to move if they're not
stopping the fight that means you can
move even with the even with the uh even
with what you said you you uh you
pulling at the elbow the the 12 to six
elbow I'm like brother they you I didn't
I never know why they took it out right
and then you you said I think so one of
interview a long time ago you said they
took it out cuz they saw a guy uh break
ice with that doing that right break
bricks onak bricks whatever right 12 in
the morning yeah guess what that guy can
break a brick with a headbutt that guy
can break a brick with turning the elbow
this way that guy can break a bricks TR
the elbow upwards guess what we can
throw that thing so why why are you
taking that away from on the ground Big
John McCarthy told me that it was just
the people at the athletic commissions
back in the well you know Big John had
this unenviable role where he had to go
to these places and explain to them that
there's rules involved in MMA and then
you get morons like what about this I
saw someone do that and break a break
you can't do that okay no 12 to six
elbows that's crazy that's crazy it was
a dumbass Rule and that the only loss on
Jon Jones record is a 12 to six and even
that like even when I'm on my back the
12 to six follow you right so I can't go
like this like from my back but then and
then and then they're like yeah but you
can't go like this but if you go like
this I'm like that's the same exact this
is the same exact thing as this at the
end I'm twisting it you know like stupid
also it's like especially this elbow I
don't feel like this elbow is as hard as
this elbow no way bro this is not like
like I can even if I mounted you right
like how JN Jo's mounted right like what
you got to do you got to like crunch
your abs like to get all here this is
like I'm going my whole shoulder my
whole body is coming into you there's so
much more in that one and you you can't
have a thing where a guy can protect
himself by doing that and then you can't
throw that one technique that's crazy
that's crazy that doesn't make any sense
is crazy that is crazy there's a bunch
of dumb rules like that but I think the
cage provides this problem for Soccer
Kicks and Stomps and knees on the ground
CU you're stuck it's like a wall right
yeah it's like a wall right and I
understand that but guess what don't go
to the [ __ ] Cave Dog you know the
cage is there brother you know what I
mean like I I I bro the cage is my buddy
have a rule where they say like no knees
or Stomps when a Fighter's touching the
cage yeah that would be cool like if if
I but then you going to start seeing
guys from the middle crawling their ass
all the way to the cage now you know
right right that's true well people are
always going to try to yeah as soon as
you as soon as you get a yeah as soon as
you get a damn Rule people are going to
game it all the time and that's what you
know my thought my thought they should
have a basketball court my thought just
guys should fight in the center of like
an open flat place just like just like
they do basketball but just what they do
for even for grappling matches yeah but
guys are going to fall over and then
what's going to happen well you don't
don't have multiple matches going on
like they do with uh with that don't
have it on a platform just have it on
the ground oh yeah oh yeah just have it
on the ground like have guys I mean you
know how Wild that would be if we're all
sitting there in the arena and there's
no cage and these dudes just walk out in
the center of this big Open Mat I mean
that' be crazy yeah just have a war me
cuz then I I I love the cage bro you
would love no cage too though I I just
love the cage for takedown purposes
whenever somebody put me like go to the
cage cage is your friend a lot of guys
don't like it cuz they think you're
losing the fight but like n it is what
it is but no cage would be smart though
because what you said I see what you're
saying but you would see more so much gu
but so much guys is going to like get
you to a point and they're going to
shoot so like you know like the Islams
and the kibs that kind of fighting sty
they're going to shoot so low cuz you
don't have a cage and it's going to keep
driving you to Forever land you know
until you get hit and then you got to
restart or whatever maybe but it may
might stop a lot of takedowns because
it's going to it's going to have a much
more realistic scenario instead of being
able to charge up to a guy against a
cage get your hands up against his butt
lift him and take him down where he
can't he can't go anywhere his backs
against the cage I mean khabib took so
many guys down Up Against the Cage so
many guys do that and take guys down off
the cage and if you got a guy who going
like keep moving and push you away and
keep mov and then circle out now you got
to take him down again it could change
the whole dynamic of fighting it could
it could iting up is going to be way
harder I can yeah it's going to be way
harder I I love the kage for getups I
have another thought about that yeah I
think if a guy takes you down at the end
of the round you start in that same
position for round two you think so
that'd be pretty gangster cuz guys
wouldn't be able to guys wouldn't care
you know some guys just take it off like
I whatever you take me down I'm only
going to be stand up anyway well you got
to think it's a fight or or or or like
even your rule like if you're getting
hold down from that last round then you
start from getting hold down right
that's the same rule right that's I
think if like say if a guy takes you
down and he's got you mounted and it's
the end of the first round
I feel like you start mounted in the
second round that sounds crazy it sounds
like you should start a fighting it is a
fight right it's a fight it's not five
individual fights yeah so if you have a
five round fight and every fight starts
standing up for a guy like paja that's a
massive Advantage yeah yeah yeah
especially after imagine he got taken
down and just took his ass beaten for
one round you know ex now imagine P
fights Jon Jones and they fight Jon
Jones for the light heavyweight title at
at you know five rounds Jon takes P down
in the first round and at the end of the
round Jon's got him mounted and paja
rides out the Bell well the round starts
round two with Jon Jones mounting him
because it's one fight it's not five
fights so if you start a new fight now
you're starting standing up again but
you didn't you're not standing up the
fight is still going on put back in the
same spot then they' have to change the
whole judging to to to the whole fight
like judging yeah it should be I feel
like it should be that way like why are
we fighting round you know I think Pride
had it right yeah Pride had it right
they they judged the fight as a whole
and they judged the the end of the fight
is it was more important who's winning
at the end just like a schoolyard if you
are outboxing a guy and there's no
teachers around and then you know all of
a sudden he takes you down and he starts
beating your ass and P and you can't get
up and then the ref the teachers come
and pull him off everybody's going to
think that guy won the fight they're not
going to say yeah but yeah but he's
going to his ass will stand up Tom
controlled him on the feet for 3 minutes
he only took him down for 30 seconds
nobody gives a [ __ ] about that they they
give a [ __ ] about like who's winning at
the end of the fight exactly bro I
that'd be I mean you it's kind of cheat
you know favorite TI on my ass that we
stand on the feet every time but that
that's pretty that's pretty cool though
that would be pretty cool because now
you would see guys you would see guys
fight much harder to get up now so like
if I'm on my ground I'm on my back right
and the the round like you see guys like
oh 30 seconds
well it's the best you know what I mean
like I just hold on to you for 30
seconds and then now because I know in
my mind like oh I'm standing up like
we're gonna we're going to come up
standing but if if you tell me 30
seconds and holy [ __ ] new round I'm
going to start on my back I need to
[ __ ] get up you know I I need to like
create a scramble or something you know
so it's not so indefinite that we start
here I think bro I think it changes the
game I think that's pretty cool maybe I
like the idea and what what I like the
idea about because it's much more like a
real fight so this is supposed to be the
F the sport of real fighting right
that's really what it is like what works
the best that's what MMA is and if you
have limited techniques like you can't
use a KNE to a down opponent you can't
do this to a down opponent well that
that [ __ ] things up and then if you
have the cage where the guy can use the
cage that [ __ ] things up because the
guy can use the cage to take guys down
they can use the cage to stand back up
so the cage becomes a factor and then
you have the fact that every round start
standing up so if you you busted your
ass to take this guy down down yeah took
damage to get a hold of this guy you
take it down the first round you have 10
seconds to go in the first round you
mount him you're on top of him the horn
blows [ __ ] now you got to start standing
up got take him down yeah imagine if if
if CH against that Anderson fight if he
could have came back from the ground
every time right crazy change the it
changes Changes Everything Changes
Everything he could have got triangled
sooner or that's true you know what I
mean or he could have finished the guy
you know we don't know you know this is
a bunch of wh ifs but it's a bunch of
what but it's also Tak into
consideration that it is supposed to be
one fight it's not supposed to be five
fights you know and like to to have
every fight start in the advantageous
position for the striker when he didn't
earn a get up yeah yeah after getting it
bro that I mean we do they already kind
of do that right like when you're
against a cage or something or something
happened and they break you they put you
right back into that situation so why
would I [ __ ] it suck for Strikers you
know Strikers worldwide I'm sorry but if
if this is a way to prove that you're
the baddest man alive sign me up for it
brother cuz I'm here for it if you take
my ass down and and and and I use a I
use a baell to get a spec to stand up
that's kind of lame bro like you need to
get your ass up you know you're not
you're not considered a bad man be able
to get your ass up in a fight that you
would have lost under the current rules
because you might start standing up in
the second round and this dude says all
right [ __ ] this guy I'm not going to
clinch with him now I'm going to kick
his calves I'm going to move around you
need to talk to somebody that would be
pretty cool nobody listens to me maybe
maybe USC 400 they do something bro I
had all sorts of plans that they don't
listen to me and I wouldn't listen to me
either they're they got a great business
it's real successful you can't make all
these changes that's ridiculous my other
thing that I would say is you got to get
rid of weight cutting and you can do it
it can be done with hydration tests and
you got to give people more options for
weight classes they should have an
option every 10 pounds minimum every 10
lbs would be I think every with the
weight cutting would be would be fun
without no weight cutting but then we
see guys like other emotions and people
are missing the hydration test anyway so
like people are still trying to do it
they're just they're going to whatever
you do they're going to gain it cuz
somebody always is going to look for the
advantage no matter what it is but
there's a way to do it where if you have
a big organization like the UFC look
think about what they do with um drug
free drug free sport now used to be
usada they'll find you wherever you are
and give you a random drug test well why
can't they find you and put you on a
[ __ ] scale and H and make get a
hydration read on you and go
you're 172 lb like you're not 145 lb Max
you're 172 lb fighter so we're going to
you could probably healthy be healthy
and fully hydrated 165 that's probably
where you should fight unless you want
to do something crazy to lose a lot of
weight like actually lose L of weight
like go running every day for 100 miles
the only the only it's funny cuz then um
a lot of people always ask me or even
when I started dating my wife first
she's like she went she like oh you're
that heavy why do you fight this I'm
like I only do cuz everybody else is
doing this [ __ ] you know if we don't do
it if I don't do it then I I'll fight a
17 year you know like imagine my my ass
stepping in there fighting like a like a
Jose uh not a Jose but like a George St
Pierre right yeah bro that guy is
[ __ ] huge you know bro he's Camaro
you know what I mean Leon is a Big Boy
Hug so it's like bro it's like it's we
everybody just do it cuz everyone's
doing it exactly they have to do it cuz
you but all those guys are 200 lb all
those 17 they're some of them yeah yeah
they're all those guys like hamza's
gigantic hamz is not even 170 anymore no
185 I didn't even know how he made 170
you remember bro he's big that's why I
wonder if he could have made it when uh
New York pulled his card because the
thing about New York is they're they've
done stuff like that before like they
wouldn't let you cut the weight when you
were supposed to be fighting kabib and
Ali Quinton took your place yeah telling
you br I that was just that was Unreal
unfort forunate but like I said you
could have made that weight though I bet
bro 100% bro but the thing is it was
just it was just stupidity you know it
was 10 days uh I was with some somebody
doing uh my my nutrition stuff at the
end he did a freaking interview he said
how much I was I was super heavy and the
freaking commission saw it and they
[ __ ] was on my ass I was like bro if
you didn't say [ __ ] we would have been
fine you know but then that's what
happened you you open people open your
mind that's come I love like a
tight-knit small small team you know
it's like nothing happens nothing gets
out anything happens is like
[ __ ] I mean you can't say that
you can't especially New York you could
say it in Vegas York in New York yeah
Vegas they don't give a [ __ ] and it was
also New York when they just started
they didn't they did that's what I
saying like when New York was stood
against MMA like they stood was against
MMA you know and then that happened and
yeah I remember bro [ __ ] guy came in
I looked I look sucked out of my life
and they was like yeah you're you're not
funny I'm like how heavy were you how
much wor I was like 3 lb off bro that's
it yeah and we and we had like a bunch
like we had like I still I still think
we had like 3 hours left oh you could
have made it yeah it was fine you know I
think hzza they pulled him I I don't
know what he was when they pulled him
then he started drinking water and then
he waited 178 I believe that's crazy
yeah he was way over that's crazy yeah
but I didn't I wasn't excited about that
fight who he fight Nate Diaz oh Nate
yeah I was like that is a then what
happened who did he fight he fought
somebody else right uh Nate fought Tony
Ferguson and he fought Kevin Holland
yeah yeah yeah yeah which is also Kevin
Holland Was preparing for someone else
he preparing for Dan Rodriguez who's a
striker and then all a sudden he's
fighting this insane wrestler yeah and
then that's what happened with the with
the fake glove touch and he took him
down and yeah yeah yeah Hamza is uh
who's he fighting next
reaker Robert right Robert I'm looking
forward to that one if there if there's
someone who can who can kind of negate
the the wrestling I think it's Whitaker
yeah I think it's Whitaker bro and then
Kad is strong but bro that that that
that burns fight like showed a lot like
it showed a lot like if you can hit this
guy and continue to hit him it's going
to be a fun fight and kamaro Usman fight
cuz kamaro was winning the Third round
bro so and he had 10 days ready for that
fight and when I tell everybody like
against a cosmat you know like what a
cosmo with the wrestling it's like if
you go if you go pull up if you pull up
his fight brother if you go watch the
cosmo fight against Usman the only time
he he takes down Usman is when Usman
wrestles him back whenman is like anti-
wrestling fighting his wrist not letting
him connect his hands no take downs but
as soon as Usman was like okay I'm just
going to wrestle back and like he starts
to like grab the stomach and stuff you
can take now you get picked I'm like
brother like you should just anti-rest
of this guy you was beating him in the
stking too but I think it was also
Camaro didn't know what his cardio was
like like yeah so he had to he didn't
trust his condition he just wasn't
prepared to go full out and Hamot knew
that so Hamza put that grappling
pressure on him immediately try to wear
them out yeah crazy I don't like those
10day fights man it's kind it it's
shitty cuz no one's going to talk about
the 10 days you know what I mean like
unless Tom aspadol yeah yeah right so
Tom aspadol takes it on like 11
and he knocks out pav he BEC the interim
title exactly but but then like even
even with that like this can say the
inim you know's he wanton the inum
they're not even talking about the
everybody would bring up the 10 you know
like even with like the vog fight it's
like oh yeah vog is this vul is that but
then oh he got knocked out from this guy
and then then he got knocked out again
I'm like yeah but he got knocked out on
10 days brother it's crazy you know it's
like people keep forgetting about that
cuz they don't give a [ __ ] well they
forget about that also cuz if you go
back before that second fight with Islam
vul is considered to be the number one
pound for pound
world and and and many believe that they
thought he won the fight you know what I
mean the first fight I thought it was
real close but I watched it like three
or four times I'm like I think there was
like one round where you you I think
it's the second round where it's up in
the air you go like I think but again at
the end of the fight he's on top of
Islam and he's pounded on him which was
just nuts to see crazy bro to think a 45
who is going to come up and do that to
to the guy who does that to everybody in
his weight class uh was insane bro he's
a legend bro Legend but that's why it's
like sucks to take a 10-day fight and
then you get koed one of the worst ways
to get ko'ed brother and then and then
bro I'm in the back I'm in the back I
don't know if you guys saw this clip but
I'm in the back and and UFC is doing
this promo thing right after the I think
so it was no not after was before I
don't know it was before one of the
fights but they're doing the promo when
I was warming up and I was watching the
fights I they did this clip and they're
showing like all the old clips BL they
show vul walking out
yeah and then the next clip is side by
side him getting knocked out by by two
guys I was like what the [ __ ] I was like
damn this game
sucks what a shitty turn of events I was
like oh look V and then the [ __ ] next
two clip is side by side of him his his
only two his two knockout losses and I'm
like wow this [ __ ] is heartless bro this
game ain't for the week bro no it's
heartless this game is not for the week
it's heartless how quickly your life can
turn around if you're a guy like vul you
go from being the man to being dismissed
uhuh you know to being like Oh yeah we
don't fight bro like cuz like Ilia
didn't want to Grant him a rematch Ilia
didn't want to fight nobody in the top
[ __ ] 15 brother well who does he want
to fight brother himself I don't
know [ __ ] want to fight himself
bro what the hell is going on bro this
guy this guy brother this this is the
man bro this is this is this is the guy
we're dealing with bro this is the guy
we're dealing with so we had a we had a
Bible verse off on Twitter uh
everybody's like saying freaking 108
hallay cuz the verse I used against him
and then um and then he writes and I
don't say nothing that's all I said and
he writes like a freaking paragraph bro
to me like I didn't even read it that's
how long it was he writes a paragraph to
me brother and that's I didn't read it
he and I was just tripping out I was
like it was like an angry girlfriend
text you know like my wife don't even
text me like that so I was like I read
the first two say I like I'm not reading
this bro what the hell is going on with
you you know I don't know what's going
on you didn't read it brother I don't
know what's going on bro I was like I I
read the do and then I saw you had to
scroll I was like what the f did I make
my wife mad I had to make sure that
wasn't her you know like what the hell
that's hilarious that's funny yeah I
don't know who he wants to fight next
but I mean if I guess he feels like he's
a champ he can call the shots but I know
that he turned down uh the Perth uh one
the 305 the volkanovski rematch oh yeah
yeah the the question is like if you're
in volkanovski's corner let's say this
now because we can say it now right
because we couldn't say it after the
first uh Islam fight but you take fight
like the Islam fight you get ko'ed bad
head kick you chill bro and yeah you
chill for how long at at least 6 months
with with no stuff and I'm like maybe
you could have sparing yeah yeah and
then he could have came back on 300 yeah
he could have headlined 300 bro you know
what I mean like you could have been I I
would have told the UFC like hey look
bro you I did you guys a solid you did
me solid very much let me rest my head
let's save this Ator but maybe I we go
on 300 I feel like the UFC should tell
him that too yeah you know if I
I I think they was I think they was you
know cuz then cuz then I was like
telling Tim them like brother like if El
need somebody let me know like let like
tell UFC let know and UFC came back and
said like this crazy mother EA wants to
fight wow you know what I mean so I
think so I think it's him and his team
and even with his team like even with um
but he's such a property but he's so
important to to risk him like that again
after a head kick knockout to marev yeah
and and and then and
like you can
mentally or and physically say you're
ready right but then something wasn't
right you know like go watch like you
know this guy's a rugly player you know
I played him three times and this guy's
head is always head first like he's
always like I fought him three times
brother and like he like it's accidental
it's not hard but he's like he's like a
rugby guy so his head is always coming
in you know like like we always me and
him like headbutted a couple times it is
not big ones not like career changing
ones but it's just his head is forward
he's a rugby guy he's
me why he
fight uncharacteristic and kind throwing
and then going you know so it's like it
was just a different you know I don't
want I'm not taking yeah I'm not taking
nothing away from Elia like it is what
it is he fought he fought v a perfect
time but like if you can like if
somebody can look me in the eyes de in
the eyes and be like bro that was the
same vul that that that's been you know
doing this thing at 45 right I will call
you a dead ass liar brother I'll be like
you're a serial killer cuz you're a
psychopath if you think that's the same
man you you you get compromised by
Knockouts there's no ifans wor butts
about it the question is how much time
do you give yourself to recover and can
you get back to 100% I don't think you
can get back to 100% from a head kick
knockout in a few months no bro and and
you have to do some sparring to get
ready for it and that they that's the
thing and and yeah and and and City
kickboxing is great you know I mean
Eugene is is a great coach Eugene's a
genius and and I'm sure Eugene was
probably in his year you know what I
mean telling him but then again it's
just well he's he's a dominator he he
knows how to win and you know he but you
can't run a race with a bad suspension
you you got to let that thing heal up
and and but then sometimes you just
you're your own enemy you know what I
mean like he probably wanted that erased
in his mind thinking that like this no
I'm going to come back here I'm going to
do this and this is just going to be
forgotten you I mean Young Buck yeah and
remind everybody you know and but it
just happens cuz then what if he out
there and he did get it done you know
what I mean that that that that would
have been amazing right and we all would
have been wrong but then for head injury
rise like like I said earlier in our
conversation with Justin like Justin is
taking six months off of off of that you
know what I mean
like bro like six months at least no
contact this chill but like this guy
like you you probably got a good [ __ ]
nice Payday for that second Islam fight
even the first Islam fight you know so
you you you know you do you do favors
for UFC they they take care of you you
know at the end of the day I've been
with this com uh comeing for a real long
time so I know this stuff so it's like
he should I I feel like selfishly he
should have just rested I feel like you
have protect you have to protect the
champion Instinct not even as a fighter
bro like as a person like you know I I
shared the Octagon this guy like to call
him my freaking NCH Nemesis people like
to make things but I like him as a
person brother he's a father to to to to
beautiful daughters you know I mean he
got a family so like bro just take your
time off you know enjoy go go go with
them do that you know and it it happens
though sometimes sometimes uh we are own
worst enemies you know what I mean like
I and being in his shoes I couldn't say
because if that happened to me I would
want to be like that like [ __ ] this I
want to go kill this kid let me go kill
this kid and remind people and then that
you have to have people close to you
that can stop that that that that that
SC and he and he does bro but like at
the end of the day he just maybe he just
trumped him he was like maybe maybe he
had a trump card and he was like look I
listened to you guys before but trust me
I got this and like how do you not
believe a guy in like like him you know
he had an iron chin before that oh yeah
iron chin brother you see his size of
his head brother he takes a shot like
but the fact that torya put him out with
one shot part of me was like damn and
absolutely Toria is a knockout Striker
he has beautiful boxing beautiful form
his technique is outstanding his power
is tremendous no doubt about it he can
knock anybody out but it's the way it
happened and
that that the shying away that we were
talking about earlier was perfect shot
bro he he did it yeah he put his head
down he knew his head was going to be
there put his head down yeah swing and
that's what Tor does bro he swings when
he swings he swings all his might and
and it's nice technique it's not like
wild swinging all his might he's
swinging all his might Tech technique
wise knowing that like analyzing like
your head is probably going to be here
I'm just going to throw to throw you
know the J Herbert one was amazing yeah
that was that was one after the head
kick he knocked him out in the second
round to come back after the head kick
yeah you know he's a small 155 that's
not the really the weight class for him
145 perfect but it's just I mean he
could fight at 55 too make no mistake
about it just like you did go up
correctly but chai Herbert is a Long
Tall dude long dude he's long longall
dude I feel like for a fighter like
Alexander volkanovski he's like a
legacy fighter he's a guy that's like
he's a a legend he's one of the most
dominant champions in any
Division and for a guy like that you got
to kind of know the mindset but not
don't let him do
something don't the don't take a fight
with Mev on 10 days notice when you
haven't been training you just been
drinking drinking yeah and hanging out I
know you think you can do it and maybe
you can do it but you probably you're
not going to be 100% And that and that's
the and that's a tough thing you know
it's like I hate when like you know he
said that and then things happen and
then they talk about what's going on
it's like brother like give the man is
do you know you took the fight you know
what you did why the hell why the hell I
got to tell you what I was doing this
whole time you know like at the end of
the day I'll just be like well he just a
better night like I I with a lot of
Fighters like the most irritating thing
there's two things that irritate me
about Fighters bro sore losers and then
sore winners bro like people that win
and still talk like oh this this and
this I'm like you want the damn fight so
what why you telling us all this [ __ ]
you know like I hate guys who do that so
and I and hate that's come whenever you
you see me lose or you see me win bro I
give nothing but respect to the next guy
cuz I I don't know what they've been
going through I don't know what kind of
obstacles they had to do because I know
what obstacles I had do I'm not going to
say [ __ ] but if you want to say stuff
like even Justin like Justin ain't
saying bro he's finally doing uh uh he's
doing all kind of media now and bro he's
just saying Max a dog you know congrats
to him you know we went out there fight
like even even with him people are
trying to be like oh you lost your title
shot like how do you feel it's like I
don't care that's a BM that's a BMF
brother Justin is wir different you know
like we wi different you know what I
mean like a lot of us Fighters like even
people tell me why you doing this bro
I'm wired different bro I want to fight
the best guys you know like that's just
it I want to fight the best guys in the
world if you guys think this is the best
guy why you think I've been calling DC's
fat ass out for so long he's the best
guy brother I fight him and DC and then
DC had the audacity fight week to tell
me if he made 45 I was brother you make
45 I'm killing you right now it's a
fight but if DC you try to make 45 I'm
going to kill you brother
but right now it's a fair fight because
you're so heavy chop both his legs off
he still wouldn't make 45 brother he'd
have to do so much but he look like Mr
Potato Head can you pull your body apart
like Mr Potato I think DC could have
made 85 I think he could have I think
when he was 205 he was I think I think
he could have if he really wanted to but
he love food bro I know imagine that guy
at 85 good Lord oh my gosh that would be
his that would be his normal weight
class cuz he' actually be he'd actually
be the height wise of people at 85ers I
mean there is some tall 85s don't get me
wrong but he bro him in heavyweight
brother he's like I know he gets dwarfed
it's crazy brother he's he's dwarfed
there that's insane that he fought at
heavyweight you I know and he won won
the title and he knocked out Stipe Stipe
the goat the the heavyweight goat that
people consider he knocked them out bro
crazy crazy
but then you see in the second fight
he's really not a heavyweight and then
you see in the third fight like it's not
it's not right yeah yeah yeah you can
tell bro he just he just he just loves
to eat brother he's a Louisiana boy BR
he he loves those he loves those little
they're uh they're freaking when they
make their pots their cry boils and
stuff brother it's going to be
interesting though to see someone at 85
that's that caliber of wrestler like so
someone who's of a DC caliber of
wrestling does rise up through the
Olympic ranks and then gets into the
185lb division and has the same kind of
punching power is there anyone that that
is there not that weight class not in
the UFC no is there there's some real
good wrestlers joh is Bo ni like a like
a like a Olympic wrestler too or no he's
that that caliber yes that caliber but
Bo nickel you know he'll tell you he's
got a lot of work to do like he was very
upset with his last fight fight crazy I
I saw that but I'm like brother you de
with you to do won but you know Cody
Brun is good and he he gave him some
troubles and he gave him some troubl
standing up you know he's going to have
a real hard time with the elite Strikers
at that weight class if they have good
takedown defense but his wrestling is a
far above and beyond most people in that
divis yeah but then that's the but
that's the beauty of our sport right
that is the beauty of our sport I never
did any type of wrestling and I feel
like I could wrestle with the best of
them in an MMA fight you know I mean I
I'm even crazy enough to be like bro
I'll go wrestle you at a wrestle
practice I don't give a [ __ ] you know
what what's the worst you going to do
you going rag doll me okay perfect yeah
that's what you're supposed to do but
what happens when you don't and I make
it a wrestling and you're like holy [ __ ]
this guy is's actually pretty good you
know so at the end of the day that's why
you just got to be great that's come I
love MMA bro and one punch one kick one
knee one elbow one take down you know
what I mean like even take down like how
much times you take someone down your
shoulder land in their stomach change
the whole fight oh who oh you breeding
hard brother what's going on there you
know you just you start laying on guys
it's uh that's why MMA is beautiful bro
you don't know what is going on you know
you know what's going to go on and it's
it's so many different things can happen
how about that Jean Wy Yan sha non fight
oh crazy bro we was watching in the back
they're good bro bro when Yan Sha n
decided not to tap and went out and then
woke up at the end of the first round
like when the bell rang and Jean wayy
let's go over and she's like what is
happening and she goes right back to her
corner and like is that legal she's out
she was out cold at the end of the first
round bro she was out cold can we see
that clip yeah out she out cold she was
out cold but that's that's insane right
she wouldn't tap that's insane cuz I
just saw I just saw a lot of the like I
didn't see that part but then I saw like
the second maybe the third round and on
and they was battling bro oh they were
battling it was a crazy fight man Yan
xaan is a beast she's good man she's and
she's so gangster the fact she wouldn't
tap fully locked in naked choke goes to
sleep these guys is like I don't
dishonor my family bro they they Next
Level bro these guys are they're they're
Warriors BR people don't understand like
a lot of these other out of country
Fighters bro they're insane bro it's in
it's insane when you see a outside fight
like a out of country fighter quit cuz a
lot of them don't they come from almost
the like you know like Charles then they
come from the slums and China they come
from places where it's like you almost
get bread into being a fighter you know
like this is what you're going to do
this is it shop cot yeah shop Rock one
off yeah yeah yeah yeah crazy crazy bro
apparently he fought that fight with
like a broken foot or something has
something wrong with him the his last
fight yeah I'm not sure with Wonderboy
that's why I took him down submitted oh
yeah yeah bro yeah that guy bro oh my
God he's he couldn't
even when he fought uh Neil yeah bro
what uh what is his name what is his
name yeah Jeff Neil bro I he freaking
who does that to him bro you know how
strong you gotta be to do that to Jeff
Jeff Neil Jeff Neil was 200 pounds that
night they
say holy shit's good he gain 30 lbs bro
yeah yeah bro sh bro that guy is weird
strong bro they just I know it doesn't
look it no no not at all but to squeeze
someone's neck off like that bro
standing standing that's like one hook
in that was like a that was almost like
a bully like a bully I got you say uncle
you know like that's crazy that's insane
in my mind I was looking at it that way
like that is insane and how you do it to
Neil Neil is a tough son of a gun bro
and he punches hard and he landed hard
shots and and chug is like boom boom
okay now now I choke you it's a wild
time for talent there's so many guys
brother and and you know what is cool
it's it's a wild time for talent and
it's it's in every weight class you know
like how certain class is like ah yeah
they got you know this and that whatever
but it's like in almost every weight
class so here it is this is the end of
the round so yon XA Nan is fully out
here John Way's got look at it's a
perfect rear naked she's fully out like
out cold right now Bell Rings lets her
go out
cold lucky she woke up look at like man
she don't know what the [ __ ] going on
whoa I did not know that yeah she was
out out so if you watch the release she
dead she's dead in like 12 seconds yeah
if you watch the I mean that is a fully
lock look at that seven seconds she go
out look at the Palm placement too the
back of the head I mean she's doing it
perfectly okay 5 Seconds right there out
out so look at her hands are completely
limp so she's
out and the referee puts his hands on
her she gets up and she's like what
what's going on she literally doesn't
know where she's going to the death to
the death to the death to the death
wof W brother imagine you got to fight
someone like that that's next level bro
that's a BMF yeah you know what's wild
about the BMF when somebody asks Dana
Dana was like uh it's like oh what about
the BMF are you going to make it for uh
girls and Dana was like the BMF is
forever I was like wait what the [ __ ] I
was like what Dana you can't be say yeah
exactly he's like anybody can fight for
the BMF I was like d why does that mean
you can't be telling me Kay Harrison is
going to try to challenge you for the
BMF
55 again you can't be saying that [ __ ] D
what the hell is going on yeah that's
ridiculous don't say that oh man don't
say that yeah that's crazy they might
have a female BMF one day I should bro
bro we is up there yeah John is up there
you can't be a [ __ ] if you're a
girl oh yeah would you call the
BDF well I guess you could if it's a
lesbian wins it oh my God terrible I
guess yeah yeah you're not hey you're
not wrong I mean what are we saying I
mean obviously a [ __ ] is a
different thing but if you didn't
understand our language and you said the
baddest [ __ ] like what they be
looking at you what is this they right
other countries that like have to
translate the BMF they're like what are
they saying yeah bro bro I forgot we was
fighting for the BMF too you know when
uh when when Bru was I never ever got an
an new brother I don't know if you I I
think I told you before you never got an
N new yeah so when I won the when I won
the intrum title right it was like and
no so I big pet is and then when I
fought Aldo it was an now again I was
like bro you owe me an an new so I never
ever got the an new I I I gave Bruce
like a hard time about it and then I got
my an new now but I was tripping out
when I was going there and I was like in
there waiting I was like why the [ __ ] is
Bru taking so long did you not just see
The Knockout brother I want to say I
want her get my hand raised and then he
was like and new Undisputed BF I was
like oh I was like oh [ __ ] yeah I was
like oh yeah finally got it but we
Undisputed at new so so are you in a
holding pattern now how does it work
like in terms of what what happens for
you in the future we see what happens
man we see what happens I mean we're so
you see what happens in New Jersey yeah
yeah we see what happens in New Jersey
we I I couldn't tell you to be honest I
all I know is Dana White ped my ass
after the fight be like brother things
are about to change so I'm waiting I'm
waiting for the change Dana let us know
let us we be we be sitting we're waiting
right now they they gave me like a
30-day no contact you know like the a
normal thing that they do after a fight
a lot of people don't know that
everybody's like what does it mean 30
days are you okay I'm like brother this
is just this is just regular stuff that
we got to rest after our fight so I got
I'm doing that right now me and Tim they
didn't hit us about anything really you
know like I said Elia writing paragraphs
over to us on Twitter that's another
what did he say can I see what he said I
don't even know what he said I want to
see what he says I don't even think
you're going to read true the whole
thing too bro you might read half of it
and just stop reading he's interesting
guy he says he gets drunk the week of
the fight like the night before the Ws I
I saw that he drinks uh drinks wine he
drinks wine to he get a buzz you relax
because if it works he never missed
weight so awesome I guess you could do
it look dehydrating yourself to make
weight is horrible for you yeah if
you're already doing that I don't think
that's like ug question about me is
whether I finish You by KO or submission
I just beat the guy that beat I was
doing math not once not twice three
times you know have one thing that keeps
you relevant and that would Grant you a
money fight the BMF belt I no longer
fight for money but for legacy already
he's already fighting for legacy no no
longer fighting for money brother he
just got he got gifted ashon Morton or
something that I saw somebody told me
winning that belt while holding my title
will cement me as the first the first to
hold both belts the first to knock out
vul and what most certainly will happen
when we fight the first one to put you
to sleep something to calm you down is
this God doesn't change shame anyone you
will have a worthy defeat against a
champ wow this is like Roman [ __ ] you
will have a worthy defeat against a
champion who will be remembered for
eternity I decide who when and where if
you don't like the terms I'm sure or
Ortega will oblige well how you how you
calling Ortega right right now how is
Ortega like even ranked in the he just
beat y year right but then he was like
away for like three years and I even see
him calling for a shot I'm like [ __ ] one
fight against Yer
just lost against vul yeah
yeah is wild I love watching that dude
fight like that guy kicks like nobody
else in the sport brother if he if
they're like Jabs brother he
can there's like a switch bro if he
flips it he's going to be like way more
like he's a scary dude already bro but
there's a there's a switch that he just
needs to flip it and he's going to start
figuring out and like it's going to be
problems a lot of problem bro when I F
him you know what it's funny cuz when I
fought him I think that was the best
year that anybody ever saw when we
fought in the Apex I think it so there's
Fighters that I feel like when you go in
front of a crowd they they they're not
fighting to the full capacity and then
there's some Fighters when you fight
Apex where it's like in the gym they
just going to shine you know and like
yeah year is like when we fought there
and I hit him with a couple shots and
before like you'd see him get hit couple
shots in different fights and kind of
like weather away and be like oh yeah
whatever and like the fight this you
know kind of like get in there and then
almost like gets finished because of the
fight's not going his way or whatever
right and I was hitting with sun sun
shots and I was just thinking in there
like bro just quit bro what what are you
doing like why are we making this so
much harder you know you're making this
fight so hard I had to thinking I had to
take his ass down I was like what are we
doing here brother why you why where
where the hell did this [ __ ]
superhero your year come out of you know
but uh well you got to remember Yer you
go back to the Frankie Edgar fight right
so Yer gets dominated by Frankie Edgar
on the ground and then you get 2.0 after
that and is much better at take down
defense really good at submitting guys
off his back it's just like more of
these fights and he's still a young guy
he's young bro Yer still hasn't reached
his potential yet but when it comes to
kicks that dude kicks like nobody else
he's the best kicker in the sport I
think like I said bro nose to nose
brother we're like right here po like oh
whoa like what bro there's a clip of me
like like he kicks through my hand I was
like what the I never see him too I was
like this [ __ ] so fast bro he
hit BJ pen with a 360 roundhouse kick
brother crazy yeah crazy bro 360
roundhouse kick on a legend crazy bro
crazy bro yeah bro I'm telling you bro
like I said bro yeah year he's going to
be a problem bro there's one switch that
he's going to flip it's going to see and
I'm going to and if you're a guy who
likes to stay on the outside and you
fight that guy you got to change
everything cuz those kicks are coming
his kicks is like Jabs like you said mhm
you know he got kicks he got spinning
[ __ ] yeah he got he [ __ ] he got hell
elbows bro he got everything CH el
stupid it's so like even when I was
fighting him bro like we knew he was
going to tr that stupid up El at places
and I get [ __ ] caught by it I'm like
what the f like
why why I knew it was coming and it hit
me I was like bro what is going on this
guy is just so freaking he's just he's
out of the box it's so Dynamic he's out
of the box and you can't find a guy
that's going to spar like him bro
nobody's wild cuz nobody's willing to
take chances like it's good cuz when we
were sparing with for him like I said
like we wouldn't really hit guys look at
this guy bro look at this guy
yeah bro those kicks and he does that
too that left kick and then that right
overhand punch bro those kicks are
coming from everywhere look at this I
mean that that left kick to the body and
then that right hand behind it yeah yeah
Josh emt's a scary [ __ ] though
wof that knockout of uh Bryce Mitchell
oh my God that was crazy that dude he's
got hammers for fist oh yeah bro he's
one of those guys yeah but he's one of
them load up dudes like everything's
coming for death shot it's death it's
death yeah I know that's why that's come
when him and Jeremy fought the two the
two Hammer dudes brother when they meet
but they collided you know that was a
crazy fight that was a crazy fight yeah
yeah I saw I saw somebody claimed that
that's I talk about German because I saw
somebody claimed that Josh was like the
hardest hitting 45 and German be like
what someone say
something the J is so funny I love that
dude bro St the man bro he's a bad man
Stevens had some crazy
Rafael dos angos 55 yeah crazy bro yeah
Jeremy can crack he's a wild dude it's a
crazy sport man I mean there's there's
really nothing like it in terms I mean I
mean I know I'm biased but in terms of
excitement in terms of like when you go
to you want to be entertained yeah go
watch some fights oh bro for sure you
know you know what it's funny because
like a lot of people they can they can
almost like puts in a fight cuz we all
fought it is in our DNA like we all
fought some point in our life like even
if it wasn't like like a fight fight
like you fought your siblings you fought
your cousin so everybody know that
feeling like oh this is nuts this is
crazy you know like who what the so you
have that feeling in you of like
fighting like you to say that you didn't
fight your cousin or even your friend
like even if it was a little slap fight
whatever and you guys hugged it out
after like you fought somebody at some
moment in your life and that's come
that's that's what draws it and you can
feel the emotion and then when guys get
into it they're like oh man I would have
did this do that do this I'm like yeah
okay what then you get into a fight you
see guys Stu like this like what what
the hell what the hell is all this stuff
you talking about you know yeah most
people like grossly underestimate their
abilities brother but but but but but
that's the game you know and that's why
everybody loves it because it's so
entertaining cuz it's like oh my gosh
yeah exactly you know but then it's like
almost Sometimes some guys are just like
uh just folks hoping thems I'm like
brother don't do that you know you know
like guys guys calling out like uh uh
calling out Demetrius and then calling
out Mighty Mouse and then they show that
Mighty Mouse like rolled up that guy in
his jiu-jitsu tournament I'm like
brother and and and even when even when
we talk about this fake like it's like
oh in a street fight when everybody's
like in a street like I'm whatever tr00
pound bro in a street F I kick you right
in the dick yeah what you talking about
the first thing I'm doing I'm going I'm
going to kick you right in the baby
maker I'mma guard your eyes I'm I'll
bite your ear off this is a street fight
brother I'll have a gun I'll shoot you
who cares I'm going to win in a street
fight you know like no rules brother
like come on the idea that if you give a
guy no rules all of a sudden he becomes
lethal is so ridiculous oh my God why
what what you're not going to scare me
real angry when I would talk to karate
guys and they would say your stuff is
good for sport but what we do is for the
street I like what are you what are you
talking about like that is the dumbest
thing you could ever say you're
practicing Street techniques is that
what you're practicing did you not watch
usc1
Kate but there's so many people that
just want to that's the beautiful thing
about MMA as well in all martial artarts
is that the training humbles you oh yeah
the reality humbles you no but you know
the most hilarious ones is when it it
does it like you see these guys troll
they come and they get their ass kick
and they're back on yeah I I still kick
your ass that was just one day you know
watch when I started train I'm like
brother but that wasn't it the the
conversation was saying you could kill
me now you know so that's just funny
some guys they need to do some study on
their brains it' be would be amazing
well there's so many different kinds of
mindsets that allow someone to get into
fighting but when they get to a
championship level like what I try to
explain to people did you understand the
kind of human being that's capable of
fighting the most skillful fighters in
the world and Rising above them all
that's a rare person like there's a lot
of things that had to fall into place to
make a Max hallway a lot of things for
sure yeah you know and but you're just
like this peaceloving like easygoing guy
real
friendly confused confused there's a
monster inside that head you know what
it's funny so um uh uh when we was
training this is a while back when we
was training at at our old gym uh some
guys would come visit my head coach Ry
Lazar and then he he he and I'm I'm
around like wrestlers so these guys like
stack you know wrestler bodies they're
stacked big small whatever and I'm just
this little skinny kid you know this is
when I was starting my UFC C I'm this
skinny kid if you look at the pictures
like no chess having ass you know I look
I look like a dork you know next to this
guy had some tattoos and then they asked
him and they he ask him oh he was like
if I told you you had to you had to
fight one of these guys uh you had to
fight any one of these guys to leave the
gym who would you fight and who would
you choose and then the guy chose me
he's like oh you chose wrong cuz that
guy would kill you he's like all these
other guys you might have a chance cuz
they might take you down and hold you
down maybe ground upon you but that guyy
is going to just straight kill you and
any any way he could find so yeah looks
can looks can be deceiving brother looks
like I said I I know I love I love
harassing DC but that guy looked like a
bag of potatoes brother and he was a
double champ and number one pound bond
in the world brother it's not looks but
it's a mindset and it's what you going
to do well Fedor Fedor too yeah best
example of that always had a muffin top
brother always always just stood there
he could make he could probably make 205
oh yeah easy easy he might be able to
make 85 Fedor walked around about 235
lbs yeah 2 I think so one time he was
like 230 225 yeah
fat never was ripped never was [ __ ]
everybody up [ __ ] everybody up crazy
bro crazy and then crazy it was crazy
how Dan handle did him like that like
this is late but like for Dan handle to
do that at any point in their career is
insane bro I know Dan hendle is a man
he's a bad [ __ ] if he was around
during the belt he'd be one of the guys
fighting for belt tooo he's a BMF bro
true and true oh 100% his logo like how
everybody like oh your logo is so good
his logo is so good bro fly I I love I
love bisbing but bro I know that's
iconic bro it's iconic and that that
knockout of Fedor was iconic too cuz
he's how is he fighting him at
heavyweight like what are you doing bro
why you why are you fighting Fedor at
heavyweight who the [ __ ] he's 185 and he
KO him he KO under punch bro snuck out
the back door escaped on the ground and
hit him with an
uppercut yeah he was a monster Man Dan
Henderson was a bad man bro bad man in
the early days I mean he's a Pioneer I
mean that guy was fighting in MMA in the
9s brother what 90 cuz I wasn't I was
born in the
one yeah he was fighting MMA before you
were born brother they're crazy and you
guys were in the same era that that's
insane that's insane crazy holy I never
looked at that yeah man cuz your era
started when you were 20 years old right
and while you're fighting Dan Henderson
was the man yeah crazy fighting yeah
crazy and he he was fighting before your
you were even conceived yeah years
before you brother it wasn't even a
thought not even a thought you were in
another dimension waiting just any day
now yeah come on when the hell am I
going to win this race yeah and now here
you are listen man you I'm I'm it's
beautiful for me as a fan of you and as
a friend to see this Renaissance and to
see people just giving you your due and
you know that's a thing that happens
when a guy loses a couple of fights they
just they
you know we were talking about it during
the walk I'm like Max is only 32 years
old you have to understand he's in his
prime right now like this is this is a
guy who keeps getting better every time
we see him and they counted you out man
and you came up big as big as anybody
ever had to do something brother I was
just I you know I shout out to Dana them
Dana Hunter shout out to Sean Shelby bro
behind the scenes Sean Shelby know what
he did for this fight he's he's the man
bro he's the man and uh those guys are
great him and Nick are the best yeah I
couldn't I couldn't bro just wrapping
your head around bro just to just to
have that fight UFC 300 bro was bro UFC
300 is huge all around you know you know
has a big card and then to get that
finish like a lot of people saying it's
the movie type finish against Justin
gatei a guy who's supposed to you said
it best outgun me too big too strong y
was supposed to [ __ ] Tony 2.0 me
whatever the hell that means I how much
of a favored was he at uh fight time
brother when at fight time he still was
to one I believe it was like 2 to1 I
think so the it opened at like 260 and
then I think so he closed at like 2:30 I
might be wrong but then people told me
it was like still two to one so is what
I I'm just happy you know uh a lot of my
fans they don't really get me a underdog
so you know thank you for rocking with
me for many years you know there It Is
Well it was the biggest challenge of
your career and it was the best
performance I mean you were you were on
point man the strategy the movement
everything that jump spinning back K cuz
DC kept saying like this is a new skill
like the way he's Landing D is not my
friend bro he's not a real friend this
[ __ ] telling me new the new
skill do I've been thring this from like
my third USC fight ever you have but it
was way better now yeah oh yeah it's way
better now yeah it's like it's it's like
anything right like it's going to get
better I kept we kept practicing it bro
like like you said you bro you know how
devastating this kick is like that kit
can change even if you if you if you
land it on the liver you're going even
if it doesn't hurt it it's going to like
longevity it's like I like saying what
Teddy Atlas say you know you put water
in the basement if I land that good in
in your stomach yeah it doesn't feel it
doesn't feel nice brother even if you
look normal you're yeah you know it's
and then I touch you touch you there
it's just going to shock your whole body
again it's going to hurt bro yeah it's
going to hurt so that spinning back kick
brother it's just like I said the video
game watching you bend the bag brother
if you could put up that clip that bro
you was bending that bag and I was like
what the [ __ ] like how like this pick is
strong as [ __ ] like I was just thinking
of like breaking people spleens with it
you know that was my best one yeah
that's me now as an old man though yeah
yeah yeah yeah the other one was a
younger one yeah but it's still I still
know how to do it right look at that
yeah look at the thing about old people
today like that's what what's
interesting about this Jake Paul Mike
Tyson fight old people today have
hormone replacement hormone replacement
is a GameChanger it's a different thing
like a 57y old man today like Mike Tyson
it's like that's not 57y old man from
1994 oh this is the one yes oh that's
the
360 so the idea the the the idea to
explain that was that uh I forget who
used to use that a lot oh Kung Le boom
look at this bro that's the that's this
the clip I saw holy [ __ ] I was like what
the hell is Jo Rogan Joan's on
drugs
oh bro look at that look at your full
extent look at the hit bro pause it when
rayin he B to uh freaking landed on the
bag bro look at the full extension bro
you hit so yeah look at that look oh my
gosh that's where you get the maximum
amount of power yeah that's that's
maximum amount of power heel facing them
your head looking at it and you're
Landing with your heel and I'm looking
over my right shoulder so everything
turned away so I got full extension
pushing off the back leg kicking with
the front leg brother it's crazy power
and it it's not utiliz that much Dennis
Siver used to have a good one oh Dennis
sver was really good I liked him yeah he
had a real good one and then uh going
back to what you're saying brother with
the with the Mike Tyson like did you see
the clips of him like moving bro like he
looks good bro he's got months to
prepare bro imagine he go in there and
just CS the guy bro what is going on
he's going to be Hell on Wheels in the
first round for sure he's going to be
Hell on Wheels you know because I don't
know how long he can go I don't know
what his joints feel like or his back
feels like I don't know what's really
going on when you're watching clips of a
guy hitting the PS yeah let's hope he
gets something crazy and then he say his
back is broken that iconic speech get
another iconic speech from him it's
going to be interesting and it's the
only time I could ever remember where I
was I would be interested in watching a
57y old man fight a 27y old man yeah for
sure like you said like even bro like
cuz everybody saw him walking around the
cane right he's walking what if he
trolling everybody what if he knew bro
what if he knew something we didn't know
what if he's wearing or seeing us all
over you know but but even that bro they
had the new video of him moving I'm like
this is not fair what is he doing like
they're going to do everything to him
they're going to give him all the
hormones all the recovery everything
they're going to do everything they can
to get them ready for that there's a lot
of money in this that's a lot of money
bro it's going to be and it's only an
exhibition right it's not even a real
fight right and they have 16 oun gloves
and they they have to fight two minutes
yeah but you can still kill someone with
16 if you're Mike Tyson [ __ ] yeah [ __ ]
yeah if you're Mike Tyson you know I
mean I mean even Paul Bro Paul is Paul
is not a small guy no he's big like a
lot of guys think he's tiny he's he's a
huge boy he's a big dude and he can
crack and I always say that people look
at him like a guy who is a YouTuber and
they're denying his SK not anymore bro
not before when he first was coming out
that's the way that's the way you should
look at him but now bro he had like he
had like love in his corner like love is
his main trainer uh what is it John love
or he's one of Floyd boys MH that guy is
he was like a legit world champion at
one point so he knows the training that
he has to be done
before I was like yeah whatever but when
you see Paul dedicate himself and how
he's training getting ready for these
guys like he's a businessman too don't
get me wrong but he's training bro he's
not he's not he's not freaking cutting
no corners bro he got the right guys he
got a right team straight and
conditioning probably eating right
eating good fighting on his terms bro
like what you think of uh Anthony Joshua
and Francis Ando oh brother brother
crazy right it sucks you I thought I
thought if if Anthony was going to be
able to like really Shock the World this
was I was like give him Anthony Joshua
first I I was thinking that like he he
could have Andy Ruiz like Joshua is
known for like kind of getting caught
and he gets rocked so like I always
thought that Anthony uh not Anthony but
nagu had the opportunity to be like oh
you can probably strike him you know you
can hurt him you can probably hurt him
with a hand especially cuz nobody knew
anything about before the Ty Tyson fight
but I think so the Tyson fight shooked
up the world and and these guys like
even like what's his name um uh Joshua
was saying that there was a gimmick
fight and he's the next guy yeah how you
call how you call Nagano a gimmick fight
and you fight him next and you and he
trained you know what I mean like you
could tell bro he was like not like what
he did to Tyson brother like a lot of
people I thought he won bro when I
watching it I was like bro this guy won
I thought he W decision he won I was
like this guy about to shake up the
whole thing but of course it's boxing
they're you know it is what it is but
yeah and when Francis went out there he
was saying that like he was tired the
time whatever right like like the thing
but Anthony Joshua looks so good he's so
good bro it's just a difference in skill
you caught him with that right hand the
first round and rocked him it's just a
difference in skill level like Anthony
Joshua is an Olympic gold medalist he's
and you can see you can see look the
faint look the faint look what he's
doing he's already he was already G even
dropping his hand you know he's also
shooting that jab to the body and
looking for Francis to counter with that
left hook Francis leans back and throws
that left hook a l yeah he goes like
this yeah and that's what he caught and
that's what he caught uh Tyson Fury with
look at this boom look look he leaned
back there too look he Le St back oh
man yeah it was a big win bro this guy
is some big dudes B for big is yeah big
win for Joshua is so fast too yeah he's
so fast and he's he matches him
strengthwise know yeah is different than
Tyson Fury yeah strength and and speed
you know but much faster look at that
right hand oh right
over that right hand over the top he was
[ __ ] here now he gets up he's in real
trouble here yeah and doom I mean that
right here he didn't even mooved bro he
didn't he didn't even see it no I mean
that he did not even see it brother holy
he was already out here like he's boom
but you saw how that set up because then
he was doing the job to the body like
you said jab to the B jab so he he sat
down and stuff kind of froze going back
like this got overhand bro perfect
beautiful Bo boxing boxing exhibition
man beautiful boxing you ever think
you're going to do any boxing matches
brother I don't know bro I don't know I
would love to it' be fun yeah yeah I I I
would say who you know but like like I
said we got a lot of I it's not even
worth calling out or doing anything cuz
at the end day I'm with the UFC and if
the UFC don't see it making money
they're not going to give it and then
all I'm going to be is be one of these
dumb asses on the internet calling out
stupid fights for no reason it's not
going to happen you know what I mean
right so at the end of the day it is
what I would love if personally if you
ask me I would love to box brother I
would love to to to I I have some boxing
um some boxing cousins that's coming up
in the boxing road right now or even
even a friend he just fought uh on the
20th he just won uh JJ Bonito he's the
man and um and then my cousin them
they're coming up they're fighting my
cousin them and um I would love to box
when I box with them it's fun it's
having fun I have great and then to go
in there and actually box someone to see
the difference I I would love to see it
you know I would love to do do you have
like right now like at 32 years old do
you have a timeline for the rest of your
career do you have a thought I I don't I
don't I don't want to I don't want to
fight to to 40 for sure you know what I
mean like you know I always thought like
maybe 35 36 we kind of look at it it it
all depends of where I'm at in my career
you know if I'm stood in the top five
and and you know champ or even
Championship level if I'm stood here I'm
doing what I'm doing here at 35 36 maybe
we squeeze a little bit but then I I
always I I tell you every time we talk
you know I want I want I want to retire
the game I don't want the game to retire
my ass brother cuz how much times we see
not only in our sports but any sports
the great they just don't they don't
they don't leave when they're supposed
to leave and they just kind of like yeah
they have a great legacy but it kind of
hurts it at the end like even though you
can talk about the great stuff that they
did it still kind of hurts them like oh
you kind of stayed you you overage
you're welcome you know and uh and
that's come I got a bunch of other stuff
you know that I'm trying to trying to
get into like like I said with this new
Brew drink that that you're drinking you
know I'm a co-owner of that I the
streaming stuff I love I know you love
gaming I don't know if you've been
gaming but the streaming stuff I love it
now that's great and I love been playing
games cuz at the end of the day a lot of
these guys that they Iden the identify
thems with their Sport and when they
retire they don't have nothing so they
come back anyway because they kind of
lose themselves they feel like oh this
is my identity so I'm trying to build
these stuff so I have another venture so
as soon as we go I can try and attack
this like I would love to stream when
I'm older you know even freaking podcast
or interview or do something like you
need these guys need to understand that
they need something outside of their
sport before they let go you know like
Kobe was doing it right you know I mean
rest in peace to him but he did it right
you know when he was getting rid of
Surfing he started doing his podcast he
started doing all kind of other stuff he
started getting more in hand with his
daughter's uh basketball and like he was
doing stuff to make himself forget about
what he did and he was focusing on other
stuff to make himself great in in
another way so that's the main thing you
know as long as I can compete at an
elite level you know I don't want to be
this guy that just hanging on and
everybody like oh man I don't I [ __ ]
it would sadden me the day that I'm
[ __ ] walking out to a fight and joean
like yeah Max did this this and this but
you know he's a little bit older now
like I'd be [ __ ]
I would be distru you know I mean I'd be
like what the [ __ ] I don't want [ __ ]
Joe Rogan talking my ass walking out the
fight like that you know retire on top
man retire on top listen brother it's
been an amazing time as a person who
loves a sport to watch you rise been
it's been incredible to seen you fight
from the very first from when you were
years old aab been incredible man and
just congratulations on just the
greatest knockout of all time epic
performance it was amazing I I can't to
see you in there again thank you brother
thank you tell everybody how they can
watch your streams uh where they can
find you social media all that [ __ ]
brother Instagram Twitter or X now
blessm and then I'm stream kick.com
backmax holway we stream Gamba we stream
first person shooters uh I'm an apex
Legend shooter so come see me if you
want to play come see him all right
beautiful thank you brother than bye
everybody
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