‘The Five’ reacts to judge fining Trump for violating gag order

Fox News
30 Apr 202411:35

Summary

TLDRThe transcript from 'The Five' on Fox News discusses a range of topics centered around former President Donald Trump. The conversation begins with an account of anti-Israel protests at Columbia University. It then shifts to Trump's legal issues, highlighting his contempt of court ruling and the $9,000 fine for violating a gag order during a hush money trial. The panelists express their views on the fairness of the gag order and Trump's right to free speech, especially as he is running for president. They also touch upon Michael Cohen's role as a star witness, his use of TikTok to financially benefit from the trial, and the broader implications of the case on the upcoming election, suggesting a perceived suppression of Trump's speech by the Democratic District Attorney and the judiciary. The discussion suggests that these legal proceedings and the gag order are part of a larger political strategy, impacting the public discourse around the election and the issues of corruption and government weaponization.

Takeaways

  • 📢 Anti-Israel students at Columbia University have barricaded themselves inside a campus building, leading to chaos.
  • 🚨 Former President Trump has criticized a gag order in a hush money trial as unconstitutional.
  • 💼 Trump has been ruled in contempt of court and must pay $9,000 for violating the gag order, with the judge threatening jail time for further violations.
  • 🎓 The judge allowed Trump to attend his son Barron's valuation ceremony.
  • 🤔 Michael Cohen, a key witness in the trial, is accused of financially benefiting from nightly TikTok live streams during the trial.
  • 📉 Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, is under scrutiny for testifying against Trump, raising questions about the legality and ethics of his actions.
  • 🤐 The gag order prevents Trump from making public statements, which some argue is an infringement on free speech.
  • 👎 Trump's retweets and comments on social media have been highlighted as violations of the gag order.
  • 🚫 The Department of Justice is preparing to cross-examine Trump on various issues, including the gag order violation.
  • 📈 Despite the controversy, Trump's poll numbers have reportedly increased.
  • 🧐 There is a debate over whether Trump should testify in the case, with some arguing it could be detrimental to his campaign.

Q & A

  • What is the situation at Columbia University as described in the transcript?

    -There is a situation of total mayhem at Columbia University, with a mob of anti-Israel students barricading themselves inside a building on campus and preparing for a long-term occupation.

  • What is the issue with the gag order in the trial involving former President Trump?

    -The gag order is being described as not only unique but also unconstitutional. It prevents Trump from making or directing others to make public statements, which is seen as a violation of free speech.

  • What penalty did former President Trump face for violating the gag order?

    -Former President Trump was held in contempt of court and was ordered to pay $9,000 for violating the gag order. He was also threatened with jail time if he violates it again.

  • What special accommodation was made for Trump by the judge?

    -The judge allowed Trump to attend his son Barron's valuation ceremony on Bay 17th, despite the gag order restrictions.

  • Who is Michael Cohen and why is he significant in this trial?

    -Michael Cohen is a star witness in the trial, formerly Trump's lawyer. He is accused of cashing in on the trial with nightly live streams on TikTok, which has raised questions about the credibility of the case.

  • What criticism has Michael Cohen faced recently?

    -Michael Cohen was recently criticized by a judge as a serial perjurer who is gaming the system, which casts doubt on his reliability as a witness.

  • What is the argument against the gag order being used in this trial?

    -The argument against the gag order is that it is fundamentally unfair to apply it to a former president who is currently running for office, especially when other witnesses are allowed to make public statements that criticize him.

  • What is the potential impact of the gag order on the public discourse?

    -The gag order could potentially limit the public discourse around the trial and prevent Trump from discussing major issues facing voters, such as the weaponization of government and corruption.

  • What is the criticism of the judge's handling of the gag order?

    -The criticism is that the judge has shown incompetence in handling the gag order, not providing clear rules and guidelines, and has effectively taken away Trump's ability to use a defense essential to his case.

  • What is the significance of the judge's decision to not allow Trump to say 'on the advice of counsel'?

    -This is significant because it prevents Trump from using a common legal defense, which could be crucial to his case. It implies that the judge is limiting Trump's ability to explain his actions were taken after consulting with legal counsel.

  • What is the implication of the judge's decision to sanction Trump?

    -The implication is that the judge has taken a firm stance on enforcing the gag order. However, the decision to sanction without providing clear guidelines for the future suggests a reactive approach rather than a proactive establishment of rules.

Outlines

00:00

📰 Trump's Gag Order Controversy and Legal Challenges

The first paragraph discusses the legal turmoil surrounding Donald Trump, including a gag order imposed on him during a hush money trial. Trump criticizes the order as unconstitutional and discusses his rapid rise to the Republican candidacy for the presidency. The paragraph also covers the judge's ruling that Trump is held in contempt of court for violating the gag order, the imposition of a $9,000 fine, and the threat of jail time for further violations. Additionally, it mentions Trump's allowance to attend his son Barron's valuation ceremony and the upcoming testimonies in the trial, with a particular focus on Michael Cohen, who is accused of profiting from the trial through TikTok live streams.

05:03

🤔 The Impact of Gag Orders and Political Strategy

The second paragraph delves into the strategic and political implications of the gag order on Trump. It highlights the argument that the gag order is an unfair suppression of free speech, especially when considering that other witnesses are permitted to criticize Trump openly. The discussion also touches on the potential for the gag order to be appealed and possibly reversed, and the strategic use of the order by the Department of Justice to cross-examine Trump on various issues, including defamation and civil lawsuits. The paragraph concludes with commentary on the public's perception of the situation and the recent surge in Trump's poll numbers.

10:04

🚫 The Limitations of Legal Maneuvering and Public Discourse

The third paragraph continues the discussion on the gag order and its impact on Trump's ability to defend himself publicly. It emphasizes the judge's restriction on Trump's defense strategy by not allowing him to claim actions were taken on the advice of counsel. The paragraph also explores the broader implications of the judge's decision to sanction Trump without providing clear guidelines for future conduct. Additionally, it addresses the potential risks for Trump if he were to take the stand during the trial and the unpredictable nature of such a legal strategy. The conversation concludes with a critique of the judge's handling of the case and the perceived unfairness of the process.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Gag Order

A gag order is a legal restraint on the press or potential witnesses that prevents them from discussing a case publicly. In the video's context, it is used to prevent Donald Trump from making public statements about the trial, which is a central issue as it restricts his freedom of speech and is a point of contention among the speakers.

💡Contempt of Court

Contempt of court refers to the offense of being disobedient to or disrespectful towards a court of law and its officers. In the script, Trump is held in contempt of court for violating the gag order, which is a significant event as it leads to a penalty and potential jail time for further violations.

💡Michael Cohen

Michael Cohen is a lawyer who formerly worked for Donald Trump and is a key figure in the video's narrative. He is portrayed as a star witness for the prosecution and is criticized for his past actions and current behavior, including monetizing his participation in the trial through social media platforms like TikTok.

💡

💡Anti-Israel Students

The term refers to students who are opposed to the policies or existence of the state of Israel. In the video, they are mentioned in the context of an event at Columbia University where they are said to have barricaded themselves inside a building, indicating a protest or demonstration that is part of the broader narrative of unrest and conflict.

💡Trump's Legal Team

This refers to the group of lawyers and legal experts representing Donald Trump in the trial. Their strategy and arguments are central to the discussion, as they attempt to navigate the complexities of the case while dealing with the imposed restrictions like the gag order.

💡First Amendment

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the freedom of speech, religion, and the press. It is implicitly referenced in the context of the gag order, as the discussion revolves around the potential infringement on Trump's right to free speech, which is a fundamental right in the U.S.

💡Weaponization of Government

This phrase suggests the use of governmental power or resources for personal or partisan advantage. In the video, it is used to criticize the perceived misuse of legal processes against Trump, suggesting that the trial and gag order are part of a broader political strategy rather than a neutral application of justice.

💡Rigged System

The term 'rigged system' is used to describe a system that is perceived as being unfairly manipulated or controlled to produce a particular outcome. In the video, it is employed to express the belief that the legal proceedings against Trump are part of a biased system designed to undermine him and his political campaign.

💡Perjury

Perjury is the act of lying or making false statements under oath, typically in a court setting. Michael Cohen is described as a 'serial perjurer' in the video, which is a significant claim as it questions his credibility as a witness and the integrity of the trial.

💡Social Media Influence

This term refers to the ability of individuals to use social media platforms to influence public opinion or generate income. Michael Cohen's use of TikTok to live stream his reactions to the trial is highlighted, which raises questions about the ethical implications of a witness engaging in such activities during a legal proceeding.

💡Political Prosecution

The term implies that legal actions are being taken against an individual for political reasons rather than purely legal ones. It is used in the video to suggest that the charges against Trump are motivated by a desire to damage his political standing rather than to serve justice.

Highlights

Total mayhem breaks out at Columbia University with anti-Israel students barricading themselves inside a campus building.

Former President Trump criticizes a gag order in a hush money trial, calling it unconstitutional.

Trump claims to be the Republican candidate for President of the United States, receiving the honor in record time.

Judge rules Trump to be held in contempt of court, imposing a $9,000 fine for violating the gag order and threatens jail time for further violations.

Trump is allowed to attend his son Baron's valuation ceremony despite the gag order restrictions.

Lawyer representing two women allegedly from Trump's past is set to take the stand, potentially threatening the credibility of Alvin Bragg's case.

Star witness Michael Cohen is accused of monetizing the trial through nightly live streams on TikTok.

ABC News reviews Cohen's TikTok streams, suggesting he is earning financial benefit from viewer donations.

Cohen criticizes a report on Twitter, dismissing it as a nonstory and shoddy tabloid hype.

Discussion on whether Michael Cohen making money on TikTok after the show, where no one else is allowed to comment, is appropriate.

Concerns raised about the gag order's fairness, especially when considering Michael Cohen's ability to publicly criticize Trump.

Judge Jeanine argues that the gag order prevents Trump from using a crucial defense in his case, 'on the advice of counsel'.

Jesse suggests that the conspiracy against Trump is on the left, with a Democrat D.A. coordinating with a Democrat judge.

Concerns about the weaponization of government and rogue prosecutors, and the impact on the upcoming general election.

Greg implies that supporting Trump in the current culture can lead to being targeted and facing legal threats.

Discussion on the interpretation of Trump's statement 'go and find me these votes', arguing that 'find' does not imply 'create'.

Jonathan expresses concerns about the judge's decision to sanction Trump without providing clear rules for future conduct.

Transcripts

00:00

IT'S 5:00 IN NEW YORK CITY, AND

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THIS IS "THE FIVE."

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♪ ♪

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TOTAL MAYHEM BREAKING OUT AT

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COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, A MOB OF

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ANTI-ISRAEL STUDENTS BARRICADING

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THEMSELVES INSIDE A BUILDING ON

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CAMPUS AND HUNKERING DOWN FOR

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THE LONG HAUL.

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WE HAVE MUCH MORE ON THAT TO

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COME IN THIS JOB AT FIRST FORMER

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PRESIDENT TRUMP SOUNDING OFF

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AFTER ANOTHER HUGE DAY AND IS,

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IN A HUSH MONEY TRIAL.

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WATCH.

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WATCH.

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>> THIS GAG ORDER IS NOT ONLY

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UNIQUE, IT IS TOTALLY

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UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

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I'M THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

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I RECEIVED THIS HONOR IN RECORD

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TIME.

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NOBODY HAS EVER DONE IT FASTER.

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IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.

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NOBODY HAS EVER GOT THE NUMBERS

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THAT WE GOT.

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I AM SITTING IN A COURTHOUSE ALL

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DAY LONG, LISTENING TO THIS

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STUFF.

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IT'S A BIDEN TRIAL, AND I NEVER

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SAW SO MANY PROSECUTORS, THEY

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ARE ALL SITTING IN THE ROOM AND

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NOTHING, OVER ABSOLUTELY

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NOTHING, THERE IS NO CRIME.

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THERE IS NO ANYTHING HERE.

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>> Dana: AND THIS MORNING THE

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JUDGE RULING THAT TRUMP BE HELD

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IN CONTEMPT OF COURT AND MUST

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PAY $9,000 FOR VIOLATING THE

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GAG ORDER.

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GAG ORDER.

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HE EVEN THREATENED TRUMP WITH

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JAIL TIME IF HE VIOLATES IT

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AGAIN.

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TRUMP DID GET ONE SMALL WIN.

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THE JUDGE IS GOING TO ALLOW HIM

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TO ATTEND HIS SON, BARON,

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VALUATION CEREMONY ON BAY

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17TH.

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TODAY, MORE WITNESSES TAKING THE

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STAND INCLUDING THE LAWYER

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REPRESENTING TWO WOMEN ALLEGEDLY

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FROM TRUMP PAST, BUT IT IS THE

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PERSON WAS NOT TAKEN THE STAND

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YET THAT SOME SAY IS THREATENINE

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CREDIBILITY OF ALVIN BRAGG'S

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CASE.

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STAR WITNESS MICHAEL COHEN

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ACCUSED OF CASHING IN ON THE

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TRIAL WITH A NIGHTLY

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LIVE STREAMS ON TIKTOK.

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ABC NEWS DOING A REVIEW OF THOSE

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STREAMS AND THEY SAY THAT IT

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APPEARS COHEN IS EARNING A

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FINANCIAL BENEFIT THROUGH

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VIEWERS DONATION SPIRIT >>

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MICHAEL COHEN HERE WITH ANOTHER

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"MICHAEL COHEN REACTS."

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10:00 AGAIN.

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SAME BAT TIME, SAME BAT CHANNEL.

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WHEN I WAS TESTIFYING BEFORE THE

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HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I

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TURNED AROUND AND I SAID THAT

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DONALD TRUMP HAS SHOWN ACTS OF

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GENEROSITY, BUT HE IS NOT A

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GENEROUS PERSON.

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>> Dana: MICHAEL COHEN RAILING

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AGAINST THE REPORT ON TWITTER

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CALLING IT A NONSTORY AND SHODDY

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TABLOID HYPE.

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LET'S START THERE.

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IT IS WONDERFUL TO WELCOME YOU

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TO "THE FIVE," PROFESSOR TURLEY.

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CAN WE START WITH MICHAEL COHEN

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MAKING MONEY ON TIKTOK AFTER THE

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SHOW, COMMENTING, WHEN NOBODY

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ELSE IS ALLOWED TO COMMENT?

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>> Jonathan: MY ASSUMPTION IS

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THERE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE

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SPECIAL EFFECTS WHEN HE

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TESTIFIES.

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WHO KNOWS?

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LOOKED, NOBODY IS SHOCKED THAT

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MICHAEL COHEN SEEMS TO HAVE GONE

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BACK ON HIS WORD THAT WAS ONLY A

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FEW DAYS AGO.

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HE WAS JUST RECENTLY CRITICIZED

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BY A JUDGE AS A SERIAL PERJURER

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WHO IS GAMING THE SYSTEM.

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SO IT'S FASCINATING ABOUT THIS

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TRIAL, SETTING THE TABLE FOR

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THIS GUY AS THEIR STAR WITNESS.

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AND I WOULD THINK ANY LAWYER --

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WHEN HE TAKES THE OATH IN THAT

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COURTROOM, I THINK PEOPLE WILL

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BE LOOKING UP TO MAKE SURE

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LIGHTNING DOESN'T STRIKE IN THE

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COURTHOUSE.

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>> Dana: JUDGE, WHAT DO YOU

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THINK OF THAT PIECE, AND THEN I

03:18

WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR TAKE ON

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THE GAG ORDER, AS WELL.

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>> Judge Jeanine: THE

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>> Judge Jeanine: THE

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FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE HERE, A FORMER

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PRESIDENT AND RUNNING FOR

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PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW IS BEING

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GAGGED BY ONE OF THE WITNESSES

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WAS ALLOWED TO TRASH HIM

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EXTENSIVELY EVERY DAY, MORE THAN

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EVERY DAY.

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IT IS EMINENTLY UNFAIR.

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW IT IS

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UNFAIR.

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WHEN MICHAEL COHEN -- I'M GOING

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TO GO ON TIKTOK AND MAKE A LOT

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OF CASH.

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I SAID THIS, PROFESSOR, LAST

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WEEK.

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WEEK.

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HAVE A COPY OF THE MARCH 26TH

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ORDER AND IT SAYS TRUMP IS NOT

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ALLOWED TO MAKE OR DIRECT OTHERS

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TO MAKE PUBLIC STATEMENTS.

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THE REPOSTING OF TWEETS IS NOT

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MAKING OR DIRECTING OTHERS TO

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MAKE STATEMENTS, AND TO ME IT IS

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INDICATIVE OF THE INCOMPETENCE

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OF THIS JUDGE, THE FACT THAT

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THIS IS APPEALED, IF THERE IS A

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CONVICTION, WHEN IT IS

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APPEALED, THIS WILL BE PART OF

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THE REVERSAL, AND I THINK TODAY,

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YOU'VE GOT COLANGELO FROM THE

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DEFERMENT OF JUSTICE WHO CAME

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OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, ON

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THE VIOLATION OF THE GAG ORDER,

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WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO

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CROSS-EXAMINE DONALD TRUMP.

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WHAT THAT IS TELLING YOU IS

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THERE GOING TO TAKE EVERYTHING

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AND SEEING WHAT THEY CAN THROW

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AT HIM AND SEE WHAT STICKS,

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WHETHER IT IS DEFAMATION,

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E. JEAN CARROLL, CIVIL LAWSUITS,

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IMPEACHMENTS, AND HE VIOLATED

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THE GAG ORDER.

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AND THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE, WHO IS PRETTY MUCH

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GOING TO CROSS-EXAMINE

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DONALD TRUMP.

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>> Dana: DO YOU THINK HE

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SHOULD NOT TESTIFY, THEN, IN

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THIS CASE?

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>> Judge Jeanine: I DON'T

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THINK HE HAS ANYTHING TO GAIN

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BECAUSE OF YOU LOOK AT THIS,

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THIS BANKER, ALL HE DID WAS HE

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DEALT WITH MICHAEL COHEN, TO

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ESTABLISH AN LLC, AND THEN THE

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PRESIDENT'S ATTORNEYS GET UP AND

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THEY SAY DID YOU EVER HAVE A

05:05

CONVERSATION WITH DONALD TRUMP?

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NO, IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH

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TRUMP.

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>> Dana: A JUDGE, JESSE, USE

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THE WORD INCARCATORY, YOU COULD

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END UP GOING TO JAIL FOR THINGS.

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>> Jesse: I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT

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THAT.

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TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE

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CONSPIRACY, THE CONSPIRACY IS ON

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THE LEFT.

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YOU HAVE A DEMOCRAT D.A.

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COORDINATING WITH A DEMOCRAT I

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CAN DONATE A JUDGE TO SUPPRESS

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THE FREE SPEECH OF THE

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REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR

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PRESIDENT.

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AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS

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THEY HAVE TAKEN A MAJOR ISSUE

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OFF THE TABLE.

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WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT,

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RENEGADE PROSECUTORS,  

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CORRUPTION.

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THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE FOR VOTERS

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IN THE FALL AND BECAUSE THEY ARE

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CHARGING TRUMP, HE CAN'T TALK

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ABOUT A MAJOR ISSUE FACING

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VOTERS?

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VOTERS CAN HEAR ABOUT THE RIGGED

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SYSTEM, THE CORRUPT PROSECUTION,

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A DEMOCRAT D.A. WHO HAS INSERTED

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HIMSELF INTO A GENERAL ELECTION?

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AND THEN GAGS THE GUY WHO IS

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PROSECUTING FROM TALKING ABOUT

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IT?

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THAT'S INSANE.

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SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE ON

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TRUTH SOCIAL, THEY ARE LIKE

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PRESS RELEASES.

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A JUDGE IS SAYING WE ARE GOING

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TO NOW CONTROL THE TYPES OF

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PRESS RELEASES THAT COME FROM A

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PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

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AND IF IT ATTACKS ME OR IT

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ATTACKS THE D.A., YOU ARE NOT

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ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

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WELL, WHAT DID HE POST?

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ONE TIME HE JUST CALLED COHEN A

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LIAR.

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COHEN IS A CONVICTED LIAR.

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AND THEN HE CALLED A PORN STAR

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EXTORTIONIST A SLEAZEBAG.

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THAT IS NOT A LIVE.

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THAT IS NOT A THREAT.

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THAT IS JUST AN OBSERVATION, AND

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HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO

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MAKE OBSERVATIONS AT TRIAL.

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THE OTHER THING, HE RETWEETED

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SOMETHING I SAID.

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WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THERE ARE

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PEOPLE WHO ARE LYING ON JUROR

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QUESTIONNAIRES.

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ABOUT NEGATIVE THINGS THEY

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POSTED ABOUT THE DEFENDANT.

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AND THEN IT TURNS OUT, OH, YOU

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KNOW WHAT, I DID SAY HE BELONGS

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IN PRISON.

07:03

WHOOPS.

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AND SO HE CAN'T TALK ABOUT

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ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

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THAT MEANS RACHEL MADDOW COULD

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BE SEATED AND DONALD TRUMP

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COULDN'T SAY MADDOW IS ON MY

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JERRY AND SHE IS STARING AT ME,

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HE CAN'T SAY THAT OR THEY ARE

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GOING TO THROW ME IN JAIL.

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THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW IT IS

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NOT RIGHT.

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THIS WHOLE CHARADE HAS HAPPENED,

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HIS POLL NUMBERS HAVE POPPED.

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>> Dana: LET ME GIVE YOU THE

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FLOOR.

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FLOOR.

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>> Greg: WHAT DO I DO WITH IT?

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>> Dana: DON'T DO THAT.

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>> Greg: TRUMP HAS GOT TO BE

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REALLY, REALLY PISSED.

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HE NOW HAS TO GO TO BARRON'S

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GRADUATION.

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NOW HE HAS TO SIT THROUGH THREE

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HOURS OF TEDIUM.

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YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WATCH

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"FOX & FRIENDS."

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I KID, I LOVE THAT.

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MICHAEL COHEN, WE HAVE TO REMIND

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EVERYONE, MICHAEL COHEN WAS

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TRUMP'S LAWYER.

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TRUMP'S LAWYER.

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IF SOMEONE BROKE THE LAW OVER

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THE LEGAL ADVICE GIVEN TO YOU,

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WOULDN'T THAT BE ON THE LAWYER

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WHO GAVE YOU THE ADVICE?

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YOU HAVE TO ENTER THE LEGAL

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PAYMENT THIS WAY, BECAUSE THERE

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IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT, HOW IN

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THE RIGHT MIND CAN THE LAWYER

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TESTIFY AGAINST ME AS THE CHIEF

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WITNESS.

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THIS IS LAWFARE ON BOOTS, AND IT

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IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, YOU LOOK AT

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CHRISTINA -- WHAT IS HER NAME,

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CHRISTINA BOTTOM, A LAWYER FOR

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SPEED, SHE COULD FACE A TOTAL OF

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LIFE IN PRISON OVER THIS

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OTHER STUFF, THEY ARE

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HUNTING EVERYBODY ON TRUMP SO HE

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IS ISOLATED IN THE MEDIA HAS

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ALWAYS WARNED US THAT TRUMP IS

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AN AUTHORITARIAN AND HIS

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SUPPORTERS ARE LIKE THIS BIG MOB

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IN RED HATS.

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IF YOU WANT TO LOSE POWER AND

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GET HUNTED, SUPPORT TRUMP.

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IN TODAY'S CULTURE, IF YOU WANT

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A TARGET ON YOUR BACK, YOU WANT

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YOUR POWER TAKEN AWAY, IF YOU

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WANT YOUR JOB THREATENS, IF YOU

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WANT TO BE THREATENED WITH JAIL,

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YOU SUPPORT TRUMP.

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HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO REJECT

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TRUMP, SAY HE IS EVIL, YOU RISE,

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YOU RISE IN YOUR CAREER AND

09:02

EVERYTHING.

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IF YOU WEAR A RED HAT YOU WILL

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BE SHAMED AND LAUGHED AT, SO THE

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IDEA THAT IF TRUMP GETS INTO

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OFFICE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

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THIS AUTHORITARIAN WORLD, WE ARE

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KIND OF SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW

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BUT IT IS AGAINST TRUMP AND HIS

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SUPPORTERS.

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IN OTHER CASES COMING UP,

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EVERYBODY IS STUPID, THE ONE IN

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GEORGIA IS BASED ON ONE WORD.

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"FIND."

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THE WORD "FIND" THAT TRUMP SAID

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WHEN HE SAID "FIND VOTES"

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DOESN'T MEAN LOOK FOR, IT MEANS

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CREATE.

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LET'S APPLY THAT TO REAL LIFE.

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LET'S SAY, JESSE, YOU ASK YOUR

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SPOUSE, CAN YOU FIND ME THE

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SCISSORS?

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AND FOUR HOURS LATER SHE RETURNS

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WITH AN ARTS AND CRAFT PROJECT

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SHE MADE OF WOODED TWINE OF

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SCISSORS.

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YOU WOULD THINK SHE IS CRAZY.

09:47

YOU WOULD GO, LOOK, DEAR, THE

09:49

SCISSORS ARE UNDER THE PILLOW

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WHERE I LEFT THEM, AND SHE WOULD

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GO, OKAY.

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FINDING ASSUMES SOMETHING IS

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ALREADY THERE.

10:00

YOU KNOW, DOESN'T MEAN CREATE.

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BUT THE DEMS ARE ALWAYS ABOUT

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MIND-READING.

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IF YOU TAKE AWAY MIND READING,

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THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE, SO IF

10:08

YOU DON'T WANT GIRLS COMPETING

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AGAINST MEN IN SPORTS, THEY

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MIGHT READ AND SAY YOU ARE A

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TRANSPHOBE.

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IF YOU ARE AGAINST DEI THEY

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MIGHT READ AND SAY YOU ARE

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RACIST.

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TRUMP SAYS GO AND FIND ME THESE

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VOTES, THEY THINK ALL HE IS

10:21

SAYING MAKE IT UP.

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>> Judge Jeanine: OKAY, I HAVE

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TO ADD SOMETHING.

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YOU JUST HAD A VERY IMPORTANT

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THING.

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YOU SAID THE TRUTH IS THAT

10:28

DONALD TRUMP IS DOING THINGS ON

10:30

ADVICE OF COUNSEL, OKAY?

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DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE

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GAGGED DONALD TRUMP FROM SAYING

10:34

GAGGED DONALD TRUMP FROM SAYING

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IN COURT?

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HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ON THE

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ADVICE OF COUNSEL.

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THIS JUDGE HAS LITERALLY PULLED

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FROM DONALD TRUMP THE ABILITY TO

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USE A DEFENSE ESSENTIAL TO HIS

10:47

CASE.

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>> Jonathan: HE IS ALSO

10:49

GUARANTEED TRUMP CAN'T TAKE THE

10:50

STAND, ALONG THE SCOPE TO BE

10:51

THIS BROAD, I MEAN, FOR TRUMP TO

10:53

TAKE THE STAND IS LIKE JUMPING

10:55

INTO A WOOD CHIPPER AND HOPING

10:56

YOU COME OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

10:59

I MEAN, IT IS NOT A GOOD

11:01

SITUATION.

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BUT BY THE WAY, THIS JUDGE SAID,

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ON THE ORDER COME ON THE

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CONTEMPT ORDER, THAT THIS IS ALL

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A MATTER OF FIRST IMPRESSIONS, L

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AUTHORITY.

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THEN HE WENT AHEAD AND SANCTION

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HIM.

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YOU WOULD THINK IF THE JUDGE

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THOUGHT IT WAS -- HE WOULD SAY,

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LET ME CLARIFY, HERE IS THE

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RULES GOING FORWARD.

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INSTEAD, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE

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GOT TO DEVELOP THIS AS WE GO.

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HERE IS YOUR SHANKS AND SPIRITS

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BEFORE THIS IS NOT SPIRITS

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>> Judge Jeanine: THIS IS

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CRAZY.

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>> Jesse: HOW DID YO

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