Trump makes EPIC miscalculation with jury at NY trial

The Legal Breakdown with BTC & Glenn Kirschner
1 May 202413:00

Summary

TLDRIn this episode of 'The Legal Breakdown,' the hosts discuss the strategic missteps made by Donald Trump during his criminal trial in Manhattan. Trump's insistence on micromanaging his legal team, particularly his lead attorney Todd Blanch, is highlighted as a significant issue. The hosts argue that Trump's directive to aggressively challenge the credibility of witnesses like Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall, despite their compelling testimonies, may alienate the jury. They also touch upon the potential impact of Trump's refusal to admit any wrongdoing, even when it could be a tactical advantage in court. The summary suggests that Trump's approach may ultimately undermine his case, as the jury may view his denials as dishonesty, and his aggressive tactics as disrespectful to the judicial process.

Takeaways

  • 📚 Trump's insistence on controlling his defense strategy may be undermining his attorneys' ability to present the best possible case.
  • 🚫 Traditionally, defense attorneys make tactical decisions in a trial, while the client decides on pleas and potential testimony.
  • 🔥 Trump is reportedly unhappy with his lead lawyer, Todd Blanche, for not being aggressive enough and not following Trump's instructions.
  • 🤔 The New York Times reports suggest that Trump's micromanagement could negatively impact the jury's perception of his case.
  • 🚷 Trump's alleged instruction to his lawyers to aggressively challenge the credibility of Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels could backfire in court.
  • 💬 The public already has a preconceived notion of Trump's character, which may influence how the jury perceives his honesty and integrity.
  • 🧐 Despite the public opinion, jurors are expected to set aside biases and presume Trump's innocence unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
  • 🚨 Attacking witnesses and jurors, as Trump is said to instruct, could be a significant strategic error and harm his case.
  • 🤝 Blanche's reluctance or inability to stand up to Trump and make independent tactical decisions is seen as a failure to fulfill his duty as a defense attorney.
  • 📉 Once the jury's trust is lost, it is extremely difficult to regain, which could be detrimental to Trump's case if his lawyers continue their current approach.
  • 🔍 The trial coverage by Glenn and Brian will continue on a daily basis, inviting viewers to subscribe for updates on the legal proceedings.

Q & A

  • What is the main issue with Trump's approach to his criminal prosecution as discussed in the transcript?

    -The main issue is that Trump is trying to micromanage his attorneys and is not allowing them to make tactical choices, which is crucial for an effective defense. This includes decisions about which witnesses to call and how to cross-examine prosecution witnesses.

  • Why is it a problem for Trump to insist on his lawyers being more aggressive, as reported by the New York Times?

    -It's a problem because it undermines the lawyers' ability to make strategic decisions that are in the best interest of the defense. Aggressiveness is not always the best strategy and can potentially alienate the jury.

  • What does the transcript imply about the role of a defense attorney in a criminal case?

    -The defense attorney is responsible for making tactical choices about how to defend a case, including which witnesses to call and how to cross-examine prosecution witnesses. The client typically makes decisions on pleading and testifying, but the attorney should have free rein to make tactical choices.

  • Why is Trump's insistence on attacking Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels potentially harmful to his case?

    -Attacking these women could alienate the jury, as it may seem like Trump is denying obvious relationships and facts. This could make the jury view him as dishonest and untrustworthy, which could negatively impact their perception of his credibility.

  • What is the significance of the statement 'once you lose the jury, there's no getting them back'?

    -It implies that the jury's perception of the defendant and their case is crucial and once it is damaged, it is very difficult to regain their trust and favor. This is particularly important in a criminal trial where the jury's opinion can directly influence the outcome.

  • What is the transcript's stance on whether Trump should admit to relationships with Karen McDougall and Stormy Daniels?

    -The transcript suggests that Trump should admit to these relationships as they are not directly related to the charges of falsifying business records. It argues that such an admission could be a tactical advantage in the trial, as it would not undermine his innocence regarding the charges.

  • Why does the transcript suggest that Trump is not interested in pleasing the jurors?

    -It suggests that Trump is more interested in maintaining his image and narrative for his base, which involves not admitting to any wrongdoing. Pleasing the jurors might require him to admit to certain relationships or actions that he has previously denied, which could risk his credibility with his supporters.

  • What does the transcript imply about the role of a lawyer representing a difficult client like Trump?

    -The transcript implies that a lawyer should stand up to the client if the client's demands undermine the chances of winning the case. The lawyer's role is to represent the client zealously, not to appease them, even if it means going against their wishes for the sake of a stronger defense.

  • What is the potential downfall of Trump's strategy as outlined in the transcript?

    -The downfall is that by refusing to admit to obvious relationships and facts, Trump is damaging his credibility. This strategy could backfire as it may lead the jury to view him as dishonest, which could negatively impact their perception of his case.

  • What does the transcript suggest about the jurors' perception of Trump before the trial begins?

    -The transcript suggests that while some jurors may have preconceived notions about Trump based on his public persona, they are expected to set aside these biases and decide the case based solely on the evidence presented during the trial.

  • What is the transcript's view on the importance of credibility in a criminal trial?

    -The transcript emphasizes the importance of credibility, stating that once lost, it is very difficult to regain the jury's trust. It suggests that Trump's refusal to admit to certain relationships and facts is damaging his credibility and could negatively impact the outcome of the trial.

Outlines

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🤔 Trump's Self-Sabotage in Court

The first paragraph discusses how Donald Trump's interference with his attorneys' strategy could negatively impact his criminal prosecution in Manhattan. Trump is attempting to micromanage his legal team, which may prevent them from mounting the best defense. The paragraph highlights that typically, defense attorneys make tactical decisions, not the client, and that Trump's insistence on being aggressive and denying any relationship with Stormy Daniels or Karen McDougall could alienate the jury. It also mentions a New York Times article about Trump's dissatisfaction with his lead lawyer, Todd Blanch, and the potential repercussions of attacking witnesses and judges.

05:01

🚫 Trump's Unwavering Denial Strategy

The second paragraph focuses on Trump's continued denial of relationships with certain women and how this could be detrimental to his case. It suggests that Trump's refusal to admit any wrongdoing, even when it might be tactically beneficial, is a strategic mistake. The paragraph also explores the idea that Trump might be priming his base to believe the trial is rigged, thereby maintaining his image as a victim among his supporters. It discusses the difficulty of regaining the jury's trust once lost and the importance of a defense attorney standing up to a client when necessary.

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📛 The Impact of Trump's Public Image

The third paragraph examines the potential influence of Trump's public image on the jury's perception. It acknowledges that many people may already have a negative view of Trump but emphasizes the jurors' duty to set aside biases and focus on the evidence presented during the trial. The paragraph also discusses the corroboration of Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougall's claims and the potential harm to Trump's credibility if his attorneys continue to deny the obvious on his behalf. It concludes with a reminder for viewers to subscribe for ongoing coverage of the trial.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Micromanage

Micromanage refers to the practice of managing or controlling every aspect of a situation, often to an excessive degree. In the video, it is suggested that Trump is micromanaging his attorneys, which is depicted as a misstep because it could undermine their ability to effectively defend him. An example from the script is the claim that Trump is 'not only trying to micromanage his own lawyers.'

💡Defense Attorneys

Defense attorneys are legal professionals who represent defendants in a court of law. Their role is to provide the best possible defense for their client. The script discusses how Trump's behavior is affecting his defense attorneys' ability to strategize and make tactical choices, which is crucial for his case. The phrase 'defense attorneys are the ones who get to make the tactical choices about how to defend a case' illustrates this concept.

💡Tactical Choices

Tactical choices in a legal context refer to the strategic decisions made by attorneys regarding the conduct of a trial. These include which witnesses to call, how to cross-examine, and the overall approach to the defense. The video emphasizes that these choices are typically made by the attorneys, not the client, and Trump's interference is seen as detrimental. The script mentions 'tactical choices about how to defend a case' in this regard.

💡Jury

A jury is a group of people sworn to render a verdict in a trial based on evidence presented. The video suggests that Trump's actions could negatively influence the jury's perception of him and his attorneys. The importance of not alienating the jury is highlighted, as once lost, it is difficult to regain their favor. The script uses the term in the context of 'Donald Trump has never admitted that he had any relationship or any sexual encounter with Stormy Daniels or with Karen McDougall' and the potential impact on the jury.

💡Scorched Earth

Scorched earth is a military strategy that involves destroying anything that might be useful to the enemy. In a legal context, as used in the video, it refers to an aggressive and destructive approach to a legal case, often involving attacking witnesses or evidence. The script discusses how Trump is instructing his lawyers to go after certain individuals with a 'scorched earth' approach, which could backfire in court.

💡Credibility

Credibility refers to the quality of being believable or trustworthy. In the context of the video, it is suggested that Trump's denial of relationships with certain individuals could harm his credibility with the jury. The script mentions 'you can't even admit to relationships that are pretty darn obvious', indicating that such denials could make Trump appear less credible.

💡Admit Wrongdoing

Admitting wrongdoing involves acknowledging that one has made a mistake or committed an offense. The video discusses a hypothetical scenario where a lawyer advises their client to admit to certain actions to improve their legal standing, but Trump is portrayed as unwilling to do so. The script refers to this concept when it mentions 'my client may have violated the good book but he didn't violate the law book'.

💡Base

In the context of the video, 'base' refers to Trump's core group of supporters. It is suggested that Trump is more interested in maintaining the support and financial contributions of his base than in making tactically sound decisions for his legal case. The script indicates this when it discusses 'priming his base into believing that the whole thing was rigged'.

💡Concede

To concede means to admit that something is true or to accept defeat. The video highlights that Trump's strategy is to 'concede nothing', which is portrayed as a tactical blunder in a legal context. The script uses this term in the context of 'Donald Trump is refusing to let his attorneys concede anything', emphasizing his unwillingness to admit to certain relationships or encounters.

💡Falsification of Business Records

Falsification of business records refers to the act of intentionally making false entries or altering business documents. This is the specific crime that is being discussed in the context of Trump's criminal prosecution. The video suggests that Trump's personal relationships, which he is denying, are irrelevant to the charges of business record falsification. The script mentions 'business records were falsified' in this context.

💡Zealous Representation

Zealous representation is the ethical obligation of an attorney to represent their client to the best of their ability, even when the client's interests may conflict with their own. The video criticizes Todd Blanch, Trump's attorney, for not standing up to Trump and making independent tactical decisions. The script refers to this concept when it discusses how Blanch 'should say... I make the tactical decisions'.

Highlights

Donald Trump is reportedly forcing his attorneys to turn the jury against him by micromanaging and undermining their defense strategy.

Trump's insistence on his lawyers being more aggressive with witnesses is causing a rift and potentially damaging his case.

Ordinarily, defense attorneys make tactical choices, but Trump is allegedly interfering with these decisions.

The New York Times reports that Trump is displeased with his lead lawyer, Todd Blanch, for not following his instructions.

Trump's alleged direction to his lawyers to aggressively discredit Karen McDougal could backfire and alienate the jury.

The belief that admitting to relationships with certain women could help Trump's case tactically, but he refuses to concede for fear of losing credibility with his base.

Prosecutors often present the weaker parts of their case upfront to avoid surprises; Trump's denials could make this more challenging.

Todd Blanch's reluctance to defy Trump may be due to the difficulty of managing a powerful client and the potential career implications.

Once the jury is lost, it is nearly impossible to regain their trust, highlighting the importance of early case management.

Jurors are expected to set aside preconceived notions and decide the case based solely on the evidence presented during the trial.

Despite any preconceived opinions about Trump, the jury is instructed to presume his innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

The challenge for Trump's legal team is to manage his desire to fight aggressively while maintaining a strategic and credible defense.

The credibility of witnesses like Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, and the corroboration of their claims, could weigh heavily on the jury's perception.

Attacking the witnesses may not only fail to discredit them but also harm the defense's standing with the jury.

Trump's unwillingness to admit to obvious relationships could be seen as a tactical error that undermines his credibility.

The hosts, Brian Tyler Cohen and Glenn Kersner, provide daily comprehensive coverage of Trump's criminal prosecution.

Viewers are encouraged to subscribe to both hosts' channels for ongoing trial analysis and updates.

Transcripts

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you're watching the legal breakdown so

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Trump is forcing his attorneys to turn

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the jury against him in a major misstep

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by the guy but first uh for those

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watching right now just a reminder that

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Glenn and I are going to be doing daily

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comprehensive coverage of the entirety

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of Trump's first criminal prosecution in

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Manhattan so for those watching if you

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want to follow along please make sure to

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subscribe to both of our channels okay

00:19

Glenn talk about what Trump is doing

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that is screwing himself over with the

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jury you know Trump is not only trying

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to micromanage his own lawyers he is

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depriving them of putting on his best

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defense Donald Trump in a word is

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screwing himself there was a great

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headline just uh that popped up in the

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New York Times and it reads Trump

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venting about his lawyer in his criminal

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trial seeks more aggression why is this

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important because ordinarily defense

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attorneys are the ones who get to make

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the Tactical choices about how to defend

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a case what witnesses to call more

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importantly what Witnesses to decline to

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call how to cross-examine the

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prosecution witnesses people might not

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realize Brian those are not decisions up

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to the client those are decisions up to

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the lawyer the client gets to make

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decisions like whether he wants to plead

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guilty or not guilty whether he wants to

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accept the plea offer whether he wants

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to testify in his own defense or not um

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but otherwise the attorneys are supposed

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to have free reign to make the Tactical

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choices about how to try a case with

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input from the the client but Donald

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Trump behind the scenes there's some

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great reporting by the New York Times

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has been sort of endlessly complaining

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about how his lead lawyer Todd blanch is

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not following his instructions and is

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not being aggressive with with the

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witnesses and Donald Trump is reportedly

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Furious and there is one way in

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particular that I can see this is really

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gonna come back to haunt Donald Trump um

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Donald Trump has never admitted that he

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had any relationship or any sexual

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encounter with stormmy Daniels or with

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Karen McDougall Brian I don't know about

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you but when I watched the Anderson

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Cooper interview of Karen McDougall she

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was pretty darn compelling credible

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convincing she you know was pouring her

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heart out about how she was in a

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10-month relationship with Donald Trump

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she talked about where they traveled and

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how they exchanged gifts she talked

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about how she was in love with him and

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he said he was in love with her Donald

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Trump it looks like is instructing his

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lawyers to go hard after her call her a

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liar you know and what that will end up

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doing is really alienating Donald Trump

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and his legal team in the eyes of the

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jury because you know I I think the

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prevailing wisdom is he had a

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relationship with Karen McDougall he had

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an encounter with Stormy Daniels and

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given that the def given that Trump is

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causing his attorneys to pit him against

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those two women and and essentially

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instructing his lawyers to go scorched

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Earth after them that is going to

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backfire that is going to uh make the

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jury look at Donald Trump and think you

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know you can't even admit to

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relationships that are pretty darn

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obvious there was a famous lawyer who

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used to say in similar circumstances

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when he was representing clients who did

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wrong and it was in their tactical

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interest at trial to admit they did

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wrong he would say you know what ladies

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and gentlemen my client may have

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violated the good book but he didn't

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violate the law book but Donald Trump is

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refusing to let his attorneys concede

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anything that is a tactical blunder

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Glenn in in our previous episodes we've

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spoken about how prosecutors in their

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opening statements will you called it

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draw the sting so basically they they

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show the weak parts of their case right

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up front so that they don't get hit with

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it later on why would Donald Trump keep

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this as something that's going to be a

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burden on him and his case why wouldn't

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he just front this thing for himself and

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then kind of allow this to just

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especially given that we already I mean

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this is an obvious point so so why why

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undermine his own credibility by denying

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what's obvious right off the bat you

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know I think for a couple of reasons one

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Donald Trump is all bad tactical choices

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all day long you know he may be able to

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fool his his uh Gull able supporters but

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he is not going to be able to fool a

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jury he's not going to be able to fool a

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judge once you know this case is in a

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court of law which is where it now is

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and Donald Trump's Mantra is concede

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nothing admit nothing where's my Roy con

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I need somebody to fight and go hard and

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be nasty and go scorched Earth after

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everybody regardless of how it might

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alienate the jur Donald Trump is not

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interested in pleasing the jurors in

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fact there's a really telling passage in

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this New York Times article where Donald

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Trump behind the scenes is telling his

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you know his loyalists I it's not only

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that Todd blanch is not being aggressive

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enough and it's not only that he's not

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following my instructions about how to

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try this case but he's not attacking the

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witnesses he's not attacking the jurors

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and he's not attacking the judges you

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know what talk about a bad decision if

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you attack the jurors who are going to

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decide your case if you attack the judge

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who is going to sentence you once you're

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convicted again Donald Trump is nothing

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but bad tactical choices but he will

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never admit anything that in part will

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end up being his downfall in this trial

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well it seems like he's kind of already

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conceded defeat as far as the trial's

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concern so at this point is he just

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trying to Prime his base into believing

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that the whole thing was rigged and so

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and so he's just trying to color the

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entire trial as being you know against

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him whether it's judge jury uh defense

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whatever it was yeah I think that's a

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great point because just as he has never

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admitted he had relationships with with

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these women um I think he must you know

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I don't want to look inside Donald

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Trump's mind um but but I think if he

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were to now say okay it's in my tactical

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interest to admit these relationships

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because remember these relationships

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have nothing to do with whether business

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records were falsified these women have

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nothing to do with the falsification of

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business records so Donald Trump could

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easily say okay I did have a

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relationship with them but I'm not

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guilty of the of the charged crimes but

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I think Donald Trump's calculation is

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that even if it was the right tactical

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choice to make in his trial he will

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never say you know what I told a bunch

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of Lies when I said I was never in a

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relationship with Karen MC gole and I

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never had anything to do with stormmy

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Daniels because then he can no longer be

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the victim he can no longer convince his

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supporters to keep sending him more

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money more money more money because now

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he's admitting that he's a liar and a

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wrongdoer even if all of that would help

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him perhaps win a criminal trial right

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the only option for him in his eyes

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right now is to just keep the con going

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and so he he's already told one lie and

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so now he just has to keep these lies

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going because as soon as he concedes

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that he lied at some point then he feels

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like his credibility is going to be shot

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but what he doesn't realize is that by

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virtue of lying about something that

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everybody can see is obvious like the

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fact that you had an affair with Stormy

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Daniels and kman dugall in the first

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place you are hurting your own

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credibility by digging your heels in on

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something that we can all see is false

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you're basically saying the sky like you

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know the the the sky isn't blue the sky

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isn't blue and everybody all you have to

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do is look up to see that it is but he's

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just you know convincing himself that

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it's not and hoping that by virtue of

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sheer repetition or power of

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manifestation that he's going to

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convince these people of something that

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they can see is not real all he has left

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is his ever dwindling base and the money

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they are willing to send him and if he

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gives up the con and he loses them he's

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got nothing left so maybe this is the

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only play that Donald Trump thinks he

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still has Glenn is there a world in

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which Todd blanch can defy Trump or is

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he going to have to basically just try

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this case poorly on purpose because he's

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at the mercy of his client yeah I think

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it exposes the weakness of the lawyers

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that Donald Trump chooses and the

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lawyers who are willing to represent him

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what Todd blanch should do is say uh

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yeah Mr former president Mr defendant I

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make the Tactical decisions I am going

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to defend you so that you have a

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Fighting Chance at perhaps winning an

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aquid or or a hung jury but Todd blanch

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is not up to that task it looks like he

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is cow to to you know a um a a really

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difficult client a difficult client to

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manage and he is not trying a a smart

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Savvy tactical case that is I think an

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abdication of the responsibility a

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defense attorney has to zealously

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represent his client it's not to appease

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the client if the client wants you to

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take a position that you know will

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undermine and undercut your clients

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chances of winning you stand up to your

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client you represent him zealously you

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do the right thing and you let the chips

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fall Glen once you lose the jury how

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hard is it to get them back there's no

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getting a jury back once you lose them

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you know once the defense attorneys

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start attacking Karen McDougall and

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Stormy Daniels when I think people will

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be able to assess that they're telling

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the truth not only because I I think

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they're going to come across as credible

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Witnesses sort of in and of themselves

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but we've already heard some of the

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corroboration we've heard about how uh

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Stormy Daniels and Karen mcdougall's

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phone numbers were virtually in Donald

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Trump's Rolodex at work and yet he had

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no relationship with those women um so

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they're going to be corroborated and

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when they are under attack because

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they'll see that the defense attorneys

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are doing Donald Trump's bidding and

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trying to deny the obvious at the

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expense of these women and their

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credibility um it's not going to sit

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well if he's not already lost the jury

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he will lose the jury and once you lose

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the jury once the jury sees the

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defendant for who he is there really is

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no turning back yeah but I got to ask do

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the same rules apply here because Donald

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Trump was just found liable for sexual

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assault and defamation everybody knows

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that he's gross so isn't that baked into

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the cake with him like can you can you

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lose a jury for being disgusting if the

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Baseline is already that you're

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disgusting you know maybe the jurors you

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know don't know enough about Donald

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Trump to reach the conclusions that most

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people who have followed the news and

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followed What Donald Trump has said and

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done over the years they have already

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reached the conclusion that you know if

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his lips are moving for example he's

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lying um but here's the thing those

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jurors took an oath to sort of set aside

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their preconceived Notions their biases

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their preferences their ideology their

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political affiliation and decide the

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case based only on the evidence they see

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introduced during the course of the

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trial and they are to presume Donald

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Trump to be innocent of these charged

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offenses of course they don't have to

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presume Donald Trump is a decent human

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being or kind of pretend like he's some

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kind of a a saint they just have to

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presume that he's innocent of the

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charged offenses unless and until the

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government's evidence proves guilt

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Beyond A Reasonable Doubt so they'll

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they'll presume that he's a decent

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person because they'll give him the

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benefit of the doubt until the moment

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where they you know allow like three

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days into this trial where we basically

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see exactly who he is all a new uh so

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yeah I mean it just shows it goes to

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show that anytime you have the

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opportunity to actually learn who this

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guy is even if you do give him the

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benefit of the doubt uh it's really

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going to ultimately Circle back to

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exactly who he is I mean he's not going

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to be able to who he is um even even in

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the instance where he's actually helping

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his attorneys prove to the jury exactly

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who he is so any way you cut it it's not

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going to help the guy uh again with that

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said for anybody watching right now if

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you want to follow along with Glenn and

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