Can Black Holes Unify General Relativity & Quantum Mechanics?
Summary
TLDRThis episode delves into the black hole information paradox and the concept of black hole complementarity, which suggests that quantum information can exist both inside a black hole and as Hawking radiation without violating unitarity. The script explores the Penrose diagram to illustrate the different perspectives of observers, highlighting the impossibility of simultaneous observation of quantum states. It raises questions about the nature of existence and the relativity of quantum states to observers, hinting at a deeper understanding of the universe that unites general relativity and quantum mechanics.
Takeaways
- š The script discusses the conflict between general relativity and quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on black holes and the black hole information paradox.
- š Black holes are significant in theoretical physics because they present inconsistencies between general relativity and quantum mechanics, potentially leading to a unified theory.
- š” The black hole information paradox suggests that black holes may violate either general relativity or quantum mechanics principles when a quantum bit (qubit) is taken into a black hole.
- š Black hole complementarity, proposed by Leonard Susskind, is a solution to the paradox suggesting that no contradiction exists between the two theories when viewed from different observer perspectives.
- šļø The concept of black hole complementarity implies that quantum information can be both inside a black hole and radiated away as Hawking radiation without violating unitarity, as no observer can witness both states simultaneously.
- š The Penrose diagram is used to illustrate the spacetime of a black hole and the paths of light and objects near the event horizon.
- š The script explains that due to the finite speed of light, the simultaneity of the existence of quantum information in two places cannot be verified by any single observer.
- š¤ Black hole complementarity raises questions about the nature of existence and reality, suggesting that our understanding of the universe may be observer-dependent.
- š The script touches on the holographic principle, hinting that the interior and exterior of black holes might be different descriptions of the same quantum system.
- š„ Alternative solutions to the black hole information paradox, such as black hole firewalls, are mentioned, indicating ongoing debates in theoretical physics.
- š The episode concludes with acknowledgments to supporters and mentions of new merchandise available in the store.
Q & A
What is the black hole information paradox?
-The black hole information paradox is a conflict that arises when considering the fate of information that falls into a black hole. According to general relativity, the information is lost forever as it crosses the event horizon, which contradicts the principle of quantum mechanics that information must be conserved.
What is black hole complementarity and who formulated it?
-Black hole complementarity is a proposed solution to the black hole information paradox. It suggests that there is no contradiction because the same quantum information can be inside the black hole as measured by one observer and frozen on the surface or radiated away in Hawking radiation according to another. It was formulated by Leonard Susskind and others in the early 1990s.
How does the Penrose diagram represent spacetime?
-A Penrose diagram is a graphical representation of spacetime that is used to visualize the structure of a black hole. It compresses space and time so that they bend into each other, with light always traveling at a 45-degree angle. This diagram allows for the visualization of an infinite distance and time at the boundaries, and it is useful for understanding the behavior of objects near the event horizon of a black hole.
What is the significance of the event horizon in the context of black holes?
-The event horizon is the boundary around a black hole beyond which nothing can escape, not even light. It is significant because it marks the point of no return for any matter or radiation that crosses it, leading to the information paradox as the information about what has crossed the event horizon seems to be lost.
What is the concept of unitarity in quantum mechanics?
-Unitarity in quantum mechanics refers to the conservation of quantum information. It is a fundamental principle that states that quantum information cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed. The violation of unitarity in the context of black holes would imply that information can be lost, which challenges the principles of quantum mechanics.
What is the role of the equivalence principle in the black hole information paradox?
-The equivalence principle, a fundamental axiom of general relativity, states that an observer cannot detect anything unusual when crossing the event horizon of a black hole. This principle leads to the paradox because it implies that an observer falling into a black hole would not notice anything out of the ordinary, contradicting the idea that quantum information is lost.
How does the concept of Hawking radiation relate to the black hole information paradox?
-Hawking radiation is a theoretical process by which black holes can lose mass and eventually evaporate. It is related to the black hole information paradox because it is suggested that information about the matter that fell into the black hole could be released back into the universe through this radiation, potentially resolving the paradox.
What is the Page time and why is it significant in the context of black hole complementarity?
-The Page time is the point at which a black hole has evaporated to half its original size. It is significant because, according to physicist Don Page, only after this time can quantum information get back out of the black hole. This is the time when an observer might potentially see both the swallowed and radiated versions of a quantum bit, although black hole complementarity argues that this is still impossible.
What is the holographic principle and how does it relate to black hole complementarity?
-The holographic principle is a concept in theoretical physics suggesting that a lower-dimensional system can be described by a higher-dimensional boundary. It relates to black hole complementarity by proposing that the interior and exterior of a black hole are different descriptions of the same quantum system, with the boundary and its interior being different ways to talk about the same thing.
What are the implications of black hole complementarity for our understanding of existence and reality?
-Black hole complementarity challenges our traditional notions of existence and reality by suggesting that the existence of a quantum state may be relative to the observer. It implies that our description of the world and the fundamental laws of physics may depend on our reference frame, leading to a more relativistic view of the universe.
Outlines
š Introduction to Black Holes and Theoretical Physics
The script opens with an introduction to the merch store and then delves into the complexities of black holes as predicted by general relativity, which describes space, time, and gravity. It contrasts these with quantum mechanics, which governs the subatomic world. The black hole information paradox is highlighted as a key conflict between these theories. The paradox arises when quantum information (qubits) is carried into a black hole, leading to a potential violation of quantum mechanics' principles. The script suggests that black holes might be the key to unifying these theories. Black hole complementarity, proposed by Leonard Susskind in the 1990s, is introduced as a solution that suggests no contradiction exists between the two states of the qubit as observed by different observers. The Penrose diagram is used to illustrate the spacetime around a black hole and the journey of the qubit as seen by Alice (inside the black hole) and Bob (outside).
š¬ The Black Hole Information Paradox and Complementarity
This paragraph explores the black hole information paradox in more detail, discussing the Penrose diagram for a black hole that forms from a collapsed star and eventually evaporates through Hawking radiation. It describes the paths of the qubit as seen by Alice and Bob, leading to a potential violation of unitarity if the qubit is considered to exist in two places simultaneously. The script then examines the concept of 'existing simultaneously' and the limitations of verifying such a state due to the finite speed of light and the observer's past light-cone. Black hole complementarity is presented as a solution that argues there's no violation of unitarity because no single observer can measure both states of the qubit. The Hayden-Preskill thought experiment is mentioned, which shows it's impossible for any observer to see both the Hawking-radiated and swallowed versions of the qubit, supporting the idea of black hole complementarity.
š Interpretations of Black Hole Complementarity and Its Implications
The final paragraph discusses various interpretations of black hole complementarity and its implications for our understanding of quantum mechanics and the nature of existence. The first interpretation suggests that unitarity and the conservation of quantum information are maintained relative to a given observer, implying that the description of the world can be radically dependent on the observer's reference frame. The second interpretation posits that the interior and exterior descriptions of quantum information are equivalent, reflecting a form of holography where a lower-dimensional system can be described as a higher-dimensional one. The script also mentions the concept of black hole firewalls as an alternative to complementarity, which will be explored in an upcoming episode. The paragraph concludes by reflecting on the broader implications of black holes for our understanding of the universe, suggesting that they may reveal a deeper reality where descriptions of the world are relative and interiors of black holes or universes may be equivalent to their surfaces.
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Keywords
š”General Relativity
š”Quantum Mechanics
š”Black Hole Information Paradox
š”Black Hole Complementarity
š”Event Horizon
š”Hawking Radiation
š”Quantum Bit (Qubit)
š”Penrose Diagram
š”Unitarity
š”Holographic Principle
š”Unruh Radiation
Highlights
Black holes are inevitable predictions of general relativity but clash with quantum mechanics.
The black hole information paradox challenges our understanding of quantum mechanics and general relativity.
Black hole complementarity, proposed by Leonard Susskind, suggests no contradiction exists between the two theories.
According to black hole complementarity, quantum information can be both inside and outside a black hole without contradiction.
The Penrose diagram is used to visualize the spacetime of a universe with a black hole.
The concept of 'simultaneous existence' is explored in the context of a black hole's event horizon.
The impossibility of observing both the interior and exterior states of a black hole is a key aspect of black hole complementarity.
The unobservability of duplicated qubits suggests a fundamental principle about the nature of existence in quantum mechanics.
Black hole complementarity implies that the conservation of quantum information holds relative to a given observer.
The concept of holography is related to black hole complementarity, suggesting that lower-dimensional systems can describe higher-dimensional ones.
Black hole complementarity is not the only solution to the black hole information paradox; other theories like firewalls exist.
The idea that our description of the world is relative to our reference frame is a radical implication of black hole complementarity.
The existence of a particle can depend on the acceleration of an observer, as seen in the Unruh radiation episode.
The holographic principle suggests that our universe's interior may have a dual description on its distant surface.
Support for the channel includes Patreon contributions, which help in the production of episodes.
New merchandise items are added to the PBS Spacetime shop, including T-shirts and hoodies.
Transcripts
Hey Everyone. Before we get to the episode,Ā Ā
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Black holes are inevitable predictions ofĀ general relativityāour best theory of space,Ā Ā
time and gravity. But they clash inĀ multiple ways with quantum mechanics,Ā Ā
our equally successful description of theĀ subatomic world. One such clash is theĀ Ā
black hole information paradoxāand a proposedĀ solutionāblack hole complementarityāmay forcedĀ Ā
us to radically rethink what it evenĀ means for something to exist.
We know that our universe is fundamentallyĀ self-consistentāotherwise what are we evenĀ Ā
doing trying to science it. But that means whenĀ a contradiction appears in our scientificĀ Ā
description of the universe, we know something isĀ wrong with that description. Itās really excitingĀ Ā
when this happens because the nature of theĀ inconsistency can point the way to a better, moreĀ Ā
encompassing scientific description. Black holesĀ are one of the favourite tools of the theoreticalĀ Ā
physicist because they lead to multipleĀ inconsistencies between general relativityĀ Ā
and quantum mechanics, and so may be our bestĀ path to the grander theory that unites the two.
The conflict we looked at recently is the blackĀ hole information paradox, and itās not a badĀ Ā
idea to watch that episode before this. In it,Ā our intrepid heroes of the gedankenexperiment,Ā Ā
Alice and Bob, discovered that black holes mustĀ violate either a fundamental principle of generalĀ Ā
relativity or of quantum mechanics. When AliceĀ carries a quantum bitāa qubitāinto a black hole,Ā Ā
she witnesses the qubit cross the eventĀ horizon. She must, because according toĀ Ā
the equivalence principleāa founding axiom ofĀ general relativityāAlice canāt sense anythingĀ Ā
unusual when crossing that horizon. Meanwhile,Ā Bob, watching from afar, has to either witnessĀ Ā
the qubit escape in the Hawking radiation leakedĀ as the black hole evaporates, or the qubit vanish foreverĀ Ā
in that evaporation. In the first case,Ā the qubit is duplicatedāitās both insideĀ Ā
and outside the black hole. In the second itāsĀ annihilated. Either way, a foundational principleĀ Ā
of quantum mechanicsāconservation of quantumĀ information or unitarity appears to be violated.
Because both the equivalence principleĀ and unitarity are fundamental to theirĀ Ā
respective theories, we know something must beĀ wrong with our understanding of what happensĀ Ā
to quantum information in a black hole.Ā There have been various proposed solutions,Ā Ā
but today Iām going to focus on one of theĀ earliest, and perhaps the least intuitiveāandĀ Ā
thatās black hole complementarity, formulatedĀ by Leonard Susskind and others in the early 90s.
Black hole complementarity states that thereĀ actually is no contradiction. It proposes thatĀ Ā
itās fine for the same quantum information to beĀ inside the black hole as measured by one observer,Ā Ā
and frozen on the surface or radiatedĀ away in Hawking radiation according toĀ Ā
another. And according to āBHCā this is fineĀ because no one can ever observe both states,Ā Ā
so no one can prove that unitarityĀ was broken, which means it ā¦ wasnāt?
To get our heads around this, letās start byĀ making the conflict much more precise. To doĀ Ā
that weāre going to use the same black hole mapĀ that proper black hole theorists like to useātheĀ Ā
Penrose diagram. Without a black hole, a PenroseĀ diagram looks like this. Up is roughly speakingĀ Ā
the forward time direction, and left and rightĀ are roughly one spatial dimension. But space andĀ Ā
time are rescaled so they bend into each otherĀ and pile up towards the boundaries. Tick marksĀ Ā
are drawn closer together so that the borderĀ of the graph represents infinite distance and infinite past or future. AndĀ Ā
all of this is done in just such a way so thatĀ light will always travel a 45 degree path. AllĀ Ā
sub-lightspeed travel has to take a steeperĀ slopeāmore time taken to travel less space.
Near an event horizon of a black holeĀ we can think of spacetime as beingĀ Ā
infinitely stretched from the point of view ofĀ a distant observer. That means we can just sayĀ Ā
one of these boundaries is our event horizon,Ā and add the interior of the black hole on theĀ Ā
other side. In these coordinates, the centralĀ singularity looks like the top of the PenroseĀ Ā
diagram is cut offāthat represents the cessationĀ of space and time inside the black hole. For nowĀ Ā
youāll have to take my word that this is a validĀ way to draw the spacetime of a universe with aĀ Ā
black hole, but we have other videos on theĀ Penrose diagram if you need more convincing.
Letās see what Aliceās black hole expeditionĀ looks like on the Penrose diagram. Both SheĀ Ā
and Bob move up in time, while Alice andĀ the qubit also move closer to the eventĀ Ā
horizon. Light from the qubit reaches AliceĀ and then Bob, carrying information about theĀ Ā
qubitās locationāits past locationĀ by the time Alice or Bob see it.
Approaching the event horizon, those photonsĀ still reach Alice quickly but take longer andĀ Ā
longer to reach Bob. Photons traveling fromĀ just above the event horizon only reach BobĀ Ā
in the far future. No photon emitted below theĀ event horizon can ever reach Bob, so to himĀ Ā
the qubit and Alice are frozen just aboveĀ the event horizon. Those photons emittedĀ Ā
inside the black hole are doomed to hit theĀ singularity, as is the qubit. As is Alice.
The diagram weāve been using is for a blackĀ hole thatās always been there and alwaysĀ Ā
will be. Real black holes typically formĀ from collapsed stars, and they also leakĀ Ā
Hawking radiation until they disappear. HereāsĀ how we might depict such a black hole. We haveĀ Ā
a Penrose diagram for the universe where theĀ black hole forms somewhere in space when aĀ Ā
collapsing star forms an event horizon. ThenĀ it evaporates by Hawking radiation. We onlyĀ Ā
need half of this map because, well, nothingĀ going in one side ever comes out the other.
Letās look at just the qubitās path. AccordingĀ to both Alice and Bob it falls and reaches theĀ Ā
event horizon. According to just Alice it entersĀ the black hole and hits the singularity. Bob,Ā Ā
on the other hand, sees it freeze on theĀ horizon and emerge again as Hawking radiation.Ā Ā
It emerges only after the black hole is at leastĀ half-evaporated because, according to physicistĀ Ā
Don Page, before that point the information inĀ the emitted radiation is hopelessly scrambled.
From a perspective outside space and time, theĀ quantum bit in some sense exists at all of theseĀ Ā
spacetime points, but does it ever exist inĀ two physical locations simultaneouslyāat theĀ Ā
same instant time? Well thereās no absoluteĀ definition of āsimultaneousā in EinsteināsĀ Ā
relative universe. But these lines on the PenroseĀ diagram could be considered to describe differentĀ Ā
spatial locations at the same moment inĀ time. Therefore, for anything duplicatedĀ Ā
on one of these lines, the copies can beĀ thought of as existing at the same time.
So, before it hits the event horizonĀ thereās only one qubit. After the blackĀ Ā
hole evaporates thereās only one qubitātheĀ one leaked out in Hawking photons. ButĀ Ā
between its entry into the black hole andĀ the black holeās evaporation we can argueĀ Ā
that the qubit exists simultaneouslyĀ in two places, violating unitarity.
The key to this is to really dig into whatĀ we mean by āexisting simultaneouslyā. DueĀ Ā
to the finite travel time of light, we canĀ only confirm simultaneous existence at twoĀ Ā
spacetime points after the light from bothĀ reaches us. On our original Penrose diagram,Ā Ā
we only have information about the parts of theĀ universe from which signals traveling at theĀ Ā
speed of light or lower could reach usāthatās ourĀ past light-cone. This is the only region in whichĀ Ā
we can verify simultaneityāand we can only verifyĀ that things existed simultaneously after the fact.
But if we try to do that for our duplicatedĀ qubits, we see that there is no past lightĀ Ā
coneāno possible observerāwho can ever verifyĀ that both exist at the same time. Alice sees one,Ā Ā
Bob sees the other, but no one can ever seeĀ both. Black hole complementarity argues thatĀ Ā
the impossibility of any one observerĀ measuring both qubits means that thereāsĀ Ā
no violation of unitarity, so thereās noĀ contradiction. Before we pick that apart,Ā Ā
letās make sure itās really impossible for anyĀ one observer to see both the Hawking-radiatedĀ Ā
and the swallowed versions of the qubit. Physicists Bill Hayden and John PreskillĀ Ā
figured out the best chance of one observer seeingĀ both. The thought experiment goes like this:
Alice jumps into the black hole with the quantumĀ bit just before the black hole is half evaporatedĀ Ā
because she knows that only after this so-calledĀ Page time can quantum information get back out.Ā Ā
Below the event horizon she tries to send theĀ qubit upwards. She knows it canāt re-cross theĀ Ā
event horizon, but it will slow the qubitāsĀ descent to give Bob more time to catch it.Ā Ā
And now Bob also drops into the black hole. HeĀ times the leap exquisitely so that he catchesĀ Ā
the Hawking-radiated qubit on its way out, and hopes to also see the swallowedĀ Ā
qubit once inside. And ā¦ he misses it. EvenĀ with the most perfectly timed experiment,Ā Ā
Hayden and Preskill show that Bob will alwaysĀ barely miss being able to see both qubits.
So it seems that nature is working awfullyĀ hard to make it impossible for anyone toĀ Ā
see both versions of the qubit. So maybeĀ the unobservability of the cloned qubitsĀ Ā
is telling us something fundamental. That wouldĀ be the argument of black hole complementarity,Ā Ā
which states that, because itāsĀ impossible for anyone to observeĀ Ā
both qubits, thereās no contradictionānoĀ violation of unitarityāfor both to exist.
This sounds like some sort of weirdĀ quantum stuff. And complementarityĀ Ā
is indeed fundamental to quantum mechanics.Ā For example, there are complementary quantumĀ Ā
properties like position and momentum thatĀ can never be measured perfectly at the sameĀ Ā
time. Or complementary descriptions like theĀ wave-like versus particle-like behavior ofĀ Ā
a quantum object. The word complementarityĀ implies a connection to quantum mechanics,Ā Ā
but the connection isnāt clear. For blackĀ hole complementarity there are differentĀ Ā
interpretations, which are still argued over,Ā and which arenāt even necessarily mutually exclusive.
So interpretation 1): If blackĀ hole complementarity is right,Ā Ā
it may be telling us that, while unitarity and theĀ conservation of quantum information always hold,Ā Ā
the way they hold is relative to a givenĀ observer. Alice will always find that quantumĀ Ā
mechanics works perfectly and that thereĀ are never any contradictions. So will Bob,Ā Ā
but for him quantum mechanics might workĀ perfectly in a different way. The key isĀ Ā
that if Alice and Bob can never communicate,Ā no contradiction is ever discovered. If this isĀ Ā
right then itās telling us something about whatĀ the wavefunction and quantum information reallyĀ Ā
represent and that our description of the worldĀ depends quite radically on our reference frame.Ā Ā
Even a concept as basic as the existence of aĀ quantum state may be relative to the observer.Ā Ā
Itās not the only hint at this uncomfortableĀ ideaāfor example, the existence of a particle canĀ Ā
depend on the acceleration of an observer, as weĀ saw in our Unruh radiation episode. Interestingly,Ā Ā
both Unruh radiation and black holeĀ complementarity involve uncrossable horizons.
So interpretation 2) for black hole complementarityĀ is that the interior and exterior descriptions ofĀ Ā
the quantum information are, in a sense,Ā equivalent. Or rather they are differentĀ Ā
descriptions of what is fundamentally the oneĀ quantum system. Thereās no duplication becauseĀ Ā
the interior and exterior of the black holeĀ are different descriptions of the same abstractĀ Ā
quantum system. This is a form of holography,Ā in which a lower dimensional system can beĀ Ā
equally-well described as a system one dimensionĀ higherāa boundary and its interior becomeĀ Ā
different ways to talk about the same thing. WeāveĀ talked about holographic principle beforeāitās anĀ Ā
idea that can be extended well beyond blackĀ holes, even suggesting that the interior ofĀ Ā
our universe may have a dual and complementaryĀ description on its infinitely distant surface.
Black hole complementarity is by no meansĀ the accepted solution to the black holeĀ Ā
information paradox. We havenāt talkedĀ about black hole firewalls yetāin whichĀ Ā
an extreme energy screen just above the eventĀ horizon fries anything that tries to enter,Ā Ā
eliminating any duplication of qubits but alsoĀ violating the equivalence principle. In an episodeĀ Ā
coming very soon weāll see why some physicistsĀ think the firewall must exist, and also why theĀ Ā
firewall may not free us from the strangenessĀ of black hole complementarity or vice versa.
So, yeah, black holes are contradictions.Ā They are holes in the universe and in ourĀ Ā
understanding of it. But through those holesĀ weāre glimpsing grander visions of what ourĀ Ā
universe might really be. For example, thatĀ thereās a sort of extreme relativity to ourĀ Ā
description of the world, or that the interiorsĀ of black holes and of universes may be in aĀ Ā
weird way equivalent to their surfacesāeach theĀ warped reflection of a complementary spacetime.
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