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the description below okay so this

morning on the way to the gym at like

4:00 in the morning I was just kind of

perusing through the marketplace on

Facebook found some pretty decent deals

locally sent out fer emails low balled a

bunch of people um got one guy that

responded to me though accepted my offer

of 500 bucks and here's what we're

getting for the 500 bucks U it looks

like it might have been an old iby Power

build I'm not sure but anyway it's a

11th gen Intel 11700 F so it's not a kcq

and it's not it doesn't have does not

have an igpu but it's still plenty of

CPU it's an i7 for gaming 16 GB of ddr4

I think it's 3200 MHz nothing crazy fast

but not too slow either um it's got a

6600 XT uh graphics card so not the

highest in graphics card not the lowest

in it's really comparable to doing

something like a 30 60 type of Graphics

U obviously it's AMD and uh it looks

like it has a very simple like box

cooler type of CPU Cooler on it nothing

crazy there um does have plenty of case

fans that has a larger case that we

could definitely upgrade in whereas like

our HP Omen build um not build but

project that I sort of did the previous

series on we're really limited now to

our case being what's keeping us from

being able to put in bigger graphics

cards or even bigger coolers and stuff

it does have a 500 GB SSD I don't know

if it's an nvme or a SATA at that point

I don't really care the idea behind

these videos is to see whether or not we

can find ourselves an amazing deal and

then use that as like an entry level

getting into PC for the first time so

I'm going to go grab cash and then we're

going to go meet up with the guy so the

actual listing was at 500 bucks or

excuse me 550 I think I could have

leveraged him a little bit lower if I

wanted I think I could have offered 450

I just messaged him and said hey I

noticed he was close and all lot the

other stuff I was looking at was like

deep inside La I didn't want have to

send Nick to go and get it I wanted to

be a part of it and so the fact that he

was literally only like 5 minutes away

maybe think that this was a good deal so

I said what's the cheapest you'll take

right now he said

500 before I responded he said I had a

guy that was going to buy it last night

said he drove all the way to Irvine

which is about an hour away from where

we are and then the guy ended up not

buying it so I feel like I could have

leveraged that and been like okay maybe

I'll just take I'll offer 450 because uh

he's already made like 20 bucks worth of

gas round trip probably on something

that didn't work out so I feel like I

could have leverage that but I'm like

okay I'm not going to be a dick 500's

Fair let's just hope I'm not getting

completely ripped off here so all right

here we go we're going to go meet him

right now I got Nick with me I got my

spider Co that way if anyone tries to

rob me which I hope isn't the case which

there always a risk you take when you

deal with uh you know Craigslist and

Facebook Facebook Marketplace and stuff

so let's hope it doesn't turn into that

that'll be a whole different

video all right so here's the PC um I

didn't even ask him to be on camera I

don't want to do that I did it's fun

fact you never know if they're going to

recognize us or not he did not but he's

a young kid uh I say young kid he's

probably in his early 20s he and a few

other friends like Buy trade sell PCS

and then just try and like make money

that way so I told him I said hey you

got any like good deals in the future in

terms of like couple hundred bucks like

old PCS that maybe might be still worth

something uh hit me up cuz this would be

a fun series to like start out super

cheap like old ninth gen and stuff

anyway it was initially an iby power

build so you can see here it's got one

of their old cases that's like fully

glass almost like look at the front I

think the front's really cool looking

too yeah that's PL I think that's

plastic but anyway um let's go and open

it up real quick like I said he did send

me videos of it running which is

something I highly recommend if you're

ever going to be doing um and I love

that it still has the caution tempered

glass anyway I do recommend getting

videos of the PCS running as best you

can you can see it's pretty dang clean

clean inside a little bit of dust on

there um you can see we have no top fans

we have one external fan there's dust on

the fan so it wasn't clean prior to but

it looks like we could even fit a 360

AIO up there if you wanted look at that

there's a ton of room up in there

hopefully you can see it hey look the

500 gig Drive is an nvme so that's nice

we don't really have to change that out

that would make a decent like OS drive

we can get another drive if we don't

want to use the spinning drive for our

uh games and such we do have three

intake fans on the front again this

thing is going to need a good deep

cleaning because of the fact that

there's just dust all over it so I'm now

breathing whatever this person was who

was using the PC was emitting whatever

let's look at the backside so yep looks

exactly like it would come from iby

power still cable managed and stuff

cannot see any information about the

power supply here's our one yeah here's

our 1 tab spinny drive right here um

room for ssds back here and stuff even

has a little fan controller built in so

that's nice

although these fans are proprietary

which is interesting look at this cable

right here that's a proprietary fan

cable for whatever iby power was using

at that time so we have to continue to

use this cable uh splitter whatever this

is as well as the fan fans that came

with it if we're going to like continue

to use these fans otherwise they won't

plug into this so yeah I wish you could

see which power supply that is it's

non-m modular very basic that's fine um

check this out the top comes

off simply pulling that off so getting

top fans of stuff installed on there oo

so much dust and getting top fans of

stuff installed on there won't be hard I

would think that if you're going to

upgrade this in the future having at

least one exhaust fan on there would be

nice like I feel like I would probably

honestly even pick off one of the B the

front

fans and I would maybe move it to an

exhaust but this is going to be full

positive pressure which shouldn't be a

bad deal all right let's confirm the

components we can see so here's our Ram

with 16 GB I think he said a

3200 yep 8 GB stick ddr4 3200 cl16 from

Team group very basic memory so that's

what we were expecting that's what we

paid for it's what we got it's a very

basic Micro ATX motherboard though I

don't see any numbers or branding on it

it's very unlikely that it's going to be

a um a zew it's more than likely going

to be a b skew for Intel which is fine

this cooler though probably perfectly

fine for the i7 but that is a very basic

cooler fortunately we have room to

upgrade our Cooling in this which we

didn't have with

our Omen PC that we recently did a video

on so anyway let's put this back

together let's get back to the shop

let's clean it up let's Benchmark it

let's see if we're getting full

performance that we're expecting I want

to test it right now make sure it boots

and everything works before I go through

the trouble of trying to clean it to see

if his video was in fact

accurate that was a very long delay but

that happens with some boards when they

first receive power they want to have

the power plugged in long enough to

charge the caps and then they turn on

hey we got immediately cuz we know we

have an ASRock board like I said I

couldn't see any branding anywhere on

this board so I still think best

practices is to do a fresh install of

Windows only because you honestly have

no idea what version of Windows this is

is it cracked is it nefarious in some

way is there some hidden key loggers or

something you just don't know that's

also why I'm not connected to the

internet right now for this system so I

still think it's a good idea to um at

the very least do another default reset

or go on like CD Keys online or whatever

pay 20 bucks for a key for Windows

wherever you want to get it I think you

should install a version of the OS do

trust I don't know where this came from

I cannot guarantee anything about it um

I I just think that's a best practice

there all right so what I'm going to do

right now is I'm going to go ahead and

install

cleaning I was I was going to go ahead

and start benchmarking real quick but I

think we need to do some cleaning on

this

fortunately it's not that bad I'm just

going to use my brush now to clean off

the blades of the fans I don't know if

the person Vaped near it but the edges

of the fans seem to be

sticking like a lot of the Dust to it so

it could be some of the vapors and stuff

of vaping near this that would make it

sticky make that stuff stick on there

anyway I have feel way back there

because of the dust and his asthma this

was definitely used by someone who Vapes

because now that I'm hitting it with air

I can smell the flavor of the Vape

H I want to take the GPU out kind of

have a look see over it and then I want

to show you guys the uh the fan blades

how they're all kind of sticky so you

can kind of see like how the Leading

Edge of all the fans have dust that's

just stuck to it and that's that's

because of the Vape so you have to use a

brush in

here try and get in there and clean all

this out uh also too you can see right

here the chipset shows as rock there

that's covered by the GPU when the GPU

is installed so it would have been very

difficult to actually see that without

taking the GPU out um we do have access

to another nvme slot right here we' have

to replace the screw though there's no

screw on there fortunately they're

fairly standard but we do have another

slot right there there it's a 600

W Raid Max so at least it's not like

complete no-name brand crap but it is

not the greatest power supply to be

honest so it get the job done though

this power supply would be perfectly

fine up to like a 3080 even if we wanted

you just you got to start asking

yourself like okay what's the weak Link

in a system when you're spending this

kind of money and by this kind of money

I mean cheap um the power supply I think

for the future proofing of the system is

going to be our limiting factor

fortunately as we upgrade this system in

the next few videos where we kind of

take an upgrade path that makes the most

sense for somebody that's taking on the

position I'm taking on the position of

somebody that's it's their first PC they

saved enough money to get into a system

like this and it's the best that they

can afford you know what's the most

logical Pathway to

follow I don't think power supply would

be something we even have to worry about

quite yet because I think I would still

do at the most like a

3070 um or like a 6800 or something like

that in this like it doesn't have to be

an Nvidia card in fact if we want to

find a great deal we probably have to

stick with um AMD at that point cuz

there's still lot of great deals to be

had for 6000 series AMD cards never mind

the model number is right here next to

the uh cooler it's a b560

m-c so whatever that equates to I knew

it was a B series board all right so

it's all back together got the sticker

off kind of gave it a little bit of a

new feel I guess if you have something

to peel anyway um couple things one I

took the filter out of the top there's

no fans up there they're not pulling air

in we want to get as much air out as

possible so having the fan filter out

will help uh let the positive pressure

push air out I opted to leave the front

fans in with all three on intake since

it's such a restrictive front of this

case oops I didn't plug anything in yet

why I'm pushing the power button so I

think cooling wise will be okay it's not

a very high watt part it is still an i7

it's a b650 board so it's not like it's

going to

be um pulling all kinds of power or

anything for the CPU so I think we're

going to be fine with just kind of

leaving it as is so so now that the PC

smells a little more fresh I'm not going

to even bother going to the BIOS to be

honest with you I'm just going to go

right into Windows now going of do some

benchmarks I want to see now what kind

of gaming performance can we actually

get with this actually it boots so quick

I want to go ahead and just start it

again right now so I can give you guys

the the boot um time also too sucks has

a scratch didn't even notice that should

have knocked 50 more bucks off whatever

um let's go start a stopwatch I want to

see what the boot time is 1 2

3 it's actually very very fast so what

makes me think that could be an nvme

drive I'm going to check in the device

manager in a second here to see if it's

nvme or not

but 16 seconds not bad especially for

what we paid for this system okay so

let's check this out real quick uh one

of the things I typically do when I'm

going to do benchmarks and stuff is I'll

come down here to like Windows Defender

click on that and disable it cuz it does

affect

performance however the normal

Windows uh Defender SL protection stuff

that we would see is not here now this

is much different than what we've seen

on other versions of Windows in fact we

can put up on the screen on what it

typically looks like where we can go in

and uncheck the stuff on live protection

regarding like internet browsing and you

know scanning of files and all that sort

of stuff that's not here so this is

what's making me feel like this might be

a cracked version of

Windows um so anyway what I want to see

right now is uh Windows version I want

to check the version about this

[Applause]

Windows okay so right here Windows 11 21

H2 so here's what's funny about this

being 21 H2 is I know there's a 22

version of Windows out like and what I

mean by 22 is um so basically if you

don't know the the first two numbers is

the year and then like H is like the

half of the year because they tend to do

it like every six months kind of a thing

so the last update that these sees this

sees available to it with an

accumulative update is is the second

half of 2021 and I know for a fact

there's like 22 and I think even there's

like 23s and stuff available now this is

showing when I go to update update

you're up to date so I feel like this is

CRA cracked up to a certain point and

that's why I won't check past that so

keep the OS in mind if you're buying a

used computer cuz again I don't trust

operating systems that I didn't install

that's just a personal thing of mine so

keep that in mind so I just want to test

to make sure the CPU is working as

intended cinebench R23 now 11 700f you

have to understand a couple of things

one it's not a case CU so it has much

more um conservative power limits and

stuff for instance it can draw up to

like 20 what was it 20 224 in fact they

can drop to like 224 Watts um for like

momentary workloads but as soon as that

workload is sustained it drops all the

way down to 65 so what you're going to

see right here is the frequency should

shoot up to about 4.3 4.4 GH all core

and it's so weird not seeing P core EC

cor cuz it's prior to 12 gen but anyway

see you can see right there it's

shooting at the 48 or so single core

which is normal behavior and it bounces

that across all cores but anyway as soon

as I start the the the process I'm cin

bench you're going to see that drop way

down to like 2.9 GHz so watch so there's

4.4 166

Watts 171

Watts oh there it is 65 Watts now at 2.9

GHz so it slows down the the um

the core clock to keep the Watts where

it needs to be and then obviously it's

running very cool at that it was 91c on

the package and then it drops all the

way down to 65c now that the test is

running normally so we'll just let this

complete to see where the number is

11700 F like that's probably the only

thing I would really change you can't go

to a 12th gen so the thing about this

having like versus the other system that

had a ryzen CPU in there we had quite a

bit more SKS available to us that we

could go to cuz it was like a 5600 G so

we could still do 57 57 700 x 5800 5800

X 5800 xvd all that stuff um if the

board that was in there supported it but

anyway this is 11th gen it's the end of

the road for this socket for Intel but

we have 11700 11700 K nonf if we wanted

but even if we went as high as like an

11 900k that'd be ridiculous to use on a

b560 board um and I think earlier I said

b650 but it's a b560 I'd probably max

out like 11 700k at the most just to

unlock some of this with a better cooler

to keep more consistent performance

anyway that gave us a

10,116 score um it's kind of looking

like an AMD rig at this PR price point

might have been a better benefit to us

than 11 11 700f but this is that's just

CPU stuff right so let's see what gaming

is like because gaming um is more

important to us in this build I mean

what cinebench can do means nothing so

let's start out with some cyberpunk all

right so we're at 1080p I'm using MSI

After Burner to monitor my frame rate or

excuse me my frame rate my temp my

percentage use of the GP GPU I want to

see it's bottleneck in any way it

shouldn't with this CPU and that's our

core clock for the GPU um Graphics is

set to custom what's custom is the fact

that we went to uh FSR 2.1 balanced and

then we are running texture quality High

crowd dening medium everything else is

like high settings by default so that's

where we are I don't really care about

the built-in Benchmark run I just want

to see what real world gaming

performance looks like I think if we can

get anything above let's let's say 75

FPS in 1080P that'll be a good deal for

this cuz now we're at the console price

but we'll be much better than console

performance in just about any game that

we can throw at

it I think what's you mention that it's

no just high setting that's true

yeah okay you speeding yep obviously

we're not running RT either in this cuz

the 6600 with rt isn't great hey look 95

FPS it gets a little bit smudgy with

fast motion because that's just kind of

how FSR is but guess what we paid 500

bucks and we're playing this game right

now I think we can sharpen this a little

bit though let's see so what if we just

do like I don't know let's just go to

one on sharpening see if it just looks

like sharp smudgy

mess it almost has a little bit of a

film grainy look with with that one

sharpening which I think is kind of okay

on a title like this to be honest it

kind of gives it that like gritty sort

of a I don't know Mad Max sort of a feel

you can see here where the lighting is

with the FSR doesn't look great um stuff

in the distance definitely looks a

little smudgy but at this point for 500

bucks I'm playing cyber

Punk still at 90 FPS let's see here what

happens if we just bump this down to

like quality okay we didn't take a huge

FPS

hit it's definitely sharper it's

definitely sharper and it's obvious now

with us having sharpening set to

one and you know what we could spend a

lot of time tuning this and going in

playing this with the settings we are

set to high right now and there's a few

settings we could go in here and modify

but you know what I'm not getting huge I

really suck at driving this car but

check it out we we're getting a solid

consistent 80 79 to 881 FPS we're only

at 63c on this GPU 62 remember we still

have the three front fans going and it's

exactly the cooling setup as it was set

up 2500 MHz on the core

96% um GPU so it's probably slightly CPU

bound to be honest Hest but I think

we're doing all right to be honest if if

look at the GPU uh frame rate curve

right there on that graph that's what

matters most it's pretty straight it's a

pretty straight line stutters are what

you want to avoid but we have a really

consistent frame rate I should have move

that chart cuz it's now right behind my

health bar but it's super consistent

yeah very playable like you'd be able to

go here and not feel like you're just

running at some ridiculous low settings

and I started with this title because

this is what I expect to have some of

the worst frame rate right now of any

game that we're going to test so MSA

After Burner doesn't hook a competitive

game like CS goo or CS uh Counter Strike

2 in this instance so there is a hack

not a hack but a console that you can

turn on for built-in FPS oh it gave me

an OP

immediately okay

sure oh my god oh that's a friendly I

guess Friendly Fire is on what's the F

oh dude look at that I didn't even

realize the FPS look it it's like 300

and the and the mouse sensitivity is way

too low for me okay so let's go Ultra

quality see what that does oh that looks

nice actually 150 160s keyboard mouse

mouse

sensitivity now we're

talking and we were at like I put things

down to what medium I feel like I need

to go higher the chicken's like ah I was

first against the Bots okay whatever um

all right so that's Counter Strike 2

another title I downloaded was Apex

Legends but I don't have this computer

logged in with my EA or any of that um I

still think that OS on this a sus in

some way like cracked version or

whatever but obviously we need to see

did we get a good deal so what I'm going

to do right now is I'm going to kind of

shop these parts individually see what

they would add up to if I tried to

Source them and build it which I don't

think would be necessarily the right way

to go I think someone just getting into

this buying a used PC would want it

complete and see that it's working and

running like we did like we got with the

video from the seller so with that said

let me go ahead and go do some shopping

add up these parts and see my brain

tells me we probably saved a couple

hundred maybe at this point but the fact

that it's working and running and it

actually doesn't look bad and what was

our temperatures like because that's the

other thing that we really need to see

so our core clock stayed pretty locked

at about 2500 right there not bad at all

our GPU usage

was actually it when it when we look at

like cyberpunk back here you can see we

had a little bit of GPU use fluctuations

and that's because cyberpunk actually

does use the CP not CPU but GPU

fluctuations in in usage that's because

cyberp Punk does use a lot of CPU so I

still think we were a little bit bound

when it comes to CPU and cyberpunk but

we got some pretty good FPS our Max

temperature on our core was 66 on the

edge Temp and 80 on the hotspot not bad

at all like the Global Temp was Max at

what is it Max at 66 and 83 was our Max

Edge our Hotpot temp not bad at all and

then um yeah that's pretty much it that

I was tracking right there just with the

GPU but as you can see with the core

clock we were getting our performance

right there but you can see our cork

clock fluctuated with our usage which