This could make it to the Supreme Court ‘quickly’: Andrew Cherkasky

Fox Business
20 Mar 202414:41

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the legal and financial challenges faced by former President Donald Trump due to a significant court judgment. It highlights the potential implications for businesses in New York and the broader issue of a two-tiered justice system. Additionally, the conversation touches on the impact of high taxes and anti-business policies on cities like Chicago and California, and the push by progressives for lower interest rates despite concerns over uncontrolled inflation.

Takeaways

  • 📜 The discussion revolves around the legal and financial challenges faced by former President Donald Trump, particularly regarding a bond related to a court judgment.
  • 🏛️ Andrew, a former federal prosecutor, argues that the situation may violate the 8th Amendment against excessive fines and discusses the potential legal remedies and appeals available to Trump.
  • 💼 Economist Steve Moore highlights the chilling effect of the judgment on businesses in New York, suggesting that it may lead to businesses reconsidering their models and allegiances in the state.
  • 🏢 The conversation touches on the unfavorable business climate in New York, which is viewed as unsupportive of entrepreneurs and businesses.
  • 🌐 Trump's contributions to modern New York through his real estate developments are acknowledged, despite the current legal and political challenges he faces.
  • 💰 The potential for Trump to leverage his stake in a publicly traded entity, Digital World Acquisition, to secure liquidity without needing a bond is discussed.
  • 🏛️ The legal process for posting a bond is outlined, emphasizing that Trump currently lacks the necessary liquidity and cannot use his real estate holdings for this purpose.
  • 📈 The impact of the mansion tax proposal in Chicago is discussed, with concerns raised about its effects on long-time property owners and the city's business climate.
  • 🗳️ The script also mentions ongoing presidential primaries in various states and the importance of the Ohio Senate primary.
  • 🏛️ The idea of double-tracking appeals, both in state and federal courts, is brought up, with an explanation of the need to exhaust state appeals before moving to federal ones.
  • 🌟 Steve Moore shares his recent interaction with Trump, emphasizing Trump's upbeat and forward-looking attitude despite the legal challenges and political opposition.

Q & A

  • What is the main legal issue discussed in the transcript regarding Donald Trump?

    -The main legal issue discussed is the violation of the 8th Amendment regarding excessive fines and the requirement for Donald Trump to post a bond equivalent to 120% of a judgment due.

  • What is the potential impact of the judgment on businesses in New York according to the transcript?

    -The transcript suggests that the judgment could chill businesses in New York, as they may fear being targeted for their political affiliations or being put in a financial corner, similar to what is happening with Donald Trump.

  • How does the transcript describe New York's business climate?

    -The transcript describes New York as having one of the most unfavorable business climates, which is one of the reasons people have been moving away from the state.

  • What is the significance of Donald Trump's contributions to New York mentioned in the transcript?

    -The transcript highlights that Donald Trump helped build modern New York by constructing large buildings and being a fixture of the community, suggesting that the legal actions against him could be seen as a form of retribution.

  • What is the potential legal strategy for Donald Trump to avoid posting a bond as discussed in the transcript?

    -The transcript mentions the possibility of Donald Trump borrowing against his stake in a publicly traded entity, Digital World Acquisition, to raise the necessary liquid funds without needing to post a bond.

  • What is the process for Donald Trump to appeal the judgment according to the transcript?

    -The transcript explains that Trump would first need to file an appeal, which would likely be rejected by the court if the bond requirement is still in place. He would then appeal to the next layer of the New York appellate courts and potentially make his way to the Supreme Court from the state high court decision.

  • What is the concern about the 'mansion tax' proposed in Chicago as discussed in the transcript?

    -The concern is that the mansion tax, which imposes a graduated tax on properties over a certain value, could negatively impact not just large skyscrapers but also long-time residents and businesses in areas that have gentrified over time.

  • What is the potential impact of the mansion tax on Chicago's population according to the transcript?

    -The transcript suggests that the mansion tax could contribute to the ongoing population loss in certain areas of Chicago, particularly affecting those who have invested in properties since the 1980s that are now worth over a million dollars.

  • How does the transcript characterize the political leadership in Chicago?

    -The transcript characterizes the political leadership in Chicago as Marxist, with a focus on redistribution and taxing the rich, which has contributed to an anti-business atmosphere and population loss.

  • What is the criticism of progressive policies in California as discussed in the transcript?

    -The criticism is that despite having some of the highest taxes in the country, California has a record budget deficit, suggesting that high taxes and progressive policies are not effective in managing the state's finances or attracting residents.

  • What is the stance of the speakers in the transcript on the idea of lowering interest rates?

    -The speakers in the transcript are against the idea of lowering interest rates, arguing that it would not be beneficial given the current economic conditions, including uncontrolled inflation and the impact on safe investments for the elderly and those on fixed incomes.

  • What is the concern about the proposed interest rate cuts by progressives as discussed in the transcript?

    -The concern is that the proposed interest rate cuts by progressives could lead to increased inflation and financial instability, as well as negatively affecting those who rely on safe investments for their income.

Outlines

00:00

📚 Legal and Financial Strategies for Trump's Appeal

The paragraph discusses the legal and financial challenges faced by former President Donald Trump following a court judgment requiring a significant bond posting. The conversation involves former federal prosecutor Andrew and economist Steve Moore, who analyze the potential for Trump to appeal the decision, the implications of the 8th Amendment regarding excessive fines, and the possibility of Trump using his stake in a publicly traded entity for financial leverage. The discussion also touches on the broader impact on businesses in New York and the perception of the state's business climate.

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🏛️ The Impact of Political Bias on Business Climate

This paragraph focuses on the perceived negative impact of political bias on the business climate, particularly in New York. It highlights the concerns of businesses fearing targeted political attacks and the potential for bankruptcy due to such biases. The conversation includes personal anecdotes, such as a dinner with Trump, and discusses the population loss in certain counties, attributed to the anti-Trump sentiment. The implementation of a mansion tax in Chicago is also discussed, with concerns raised about its potential impact on long-time property owners and the city's economy.

10:01

🌆 The Exodus from Progressive Cities and States

The paragraph delves into the consequences of progressive policies in cities like Chicago and states like California, suggesting that these policies are driving people away. It discusses the high taxes and anti-business atmosphere in Chicago, leading to the departure of prominent figures like Ken Griffin. The conversation also touches on the record budget deficit in California, despite high taxes, and the migration of people to states like Texas and Florida. The paragraph criticizes the persistence of failed ideas and the negative effects on constituents, especially the elderly and those on fixed incomes.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡8th Amendment

The 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution is a part of the Bill of Rights and protects against excessive fines. In the context of the video, it is mentioned as a potential violation due to the high bond required by the court from Donald Trump.

💡Appeal

In legal terms, an appeal is a formal request for a higher court to review and potentially overturn a lower court's decision. The video discusses the possibility of Donald Trump appealing the court's decision regarding the bond.

💡Bond

A bond in a legal context is a security or pledge of property given as a guarantee of performance. In this case, it refers to the financial guarantee that Donald Trump is required to post in relation to a court judgment.

💡Business Climate

The business climate refers to the overall environment and conditions in a particular area that affect the growth and success of businesses. The video script suggests that New York has an unfavorable business climate, which may lead businesses to reconsider their presence in the state.

💡Digital World Acquisition

Digital World Acquisition is a publicly traded entity that is merging with a company associated with Donald Trump. This merger could potentially provide Trump with a liquid asset that he could use as collateral.

💡Supreme Court

The Supreme Court is the highest court in the United States and has the final say on legal matters. In the context of the video, it is mentioned as a potential destination for Trump's appeal if lower courts do not rule in his favor.

💡Two-Tier Justice

The term 'two-tier justice' refers to a perceived or actual situation where different legal standards or outcomes are applied based on the status or influence of the individuals involved. In the video, it is suggested that there is a disparity in how justice is applied in 'blue states' like New York.

💡Mansion Tax

A mansion tax is a proposed tax on high-value properties, often aimed at the wealthiest property owners. In the video, it is mentioned as a new tax being considered in Chicago, which would impose a graduated tax on properties over a certain value.

💡Progressive Policies

Progressive policies are those that aim to promote social reform and reduce economic inequality, often through increased government intervention and regulation. The video criticizes progressive policies, suggesting they lead to negative outcomes such as high taxes and business flight.

💡Federal Reserve

The Federal Reserve, often referred to as the Fed, is the central banking system of the United States, responsible for implementing monetary policy. In the video, there is a discussion about progressives pushing the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates.

Highlights

Discussion on the potential violation of the 8th Amendment due to excessive fines in the case of President Trump.

Mention of President Trump's legal situation regarding the bond and his appeal process.

Concerns about the impact of the judgment on businesses in New York and potential rethinking of business models in the state.

Steve Moore's perspective on the unfavorable business climate in New York and its effects on the population and businesses.

Discussion on Donald Trump's contributions to modern New York through his real estate developments.

Exploration of the possibility of Trump borrowing against his stake in a publicly traded entity to raise funds for the bond.

Legal strategies available to Trump in terms of posting the bond and pursuing his appeal.

Concerns about the two-tier justice system in the United States and its implications for business owners.

Steve Moore's account of his recent interaction with Donald Trump and Trump's positive outlook despite legal challenges.

Discussion on the impact of political affiliations on businesses and the potential for bureaucrats to target businesses for political gain.

Analysis of the Ohio Senate primary and the three Republican candidates vying to face the only remaining Democrat Senator in the state.

Chicago's proposal for a new mansion tax on properties over a certain value and its potential impact on the city's economy.

Concerns about the potential negative effects of the mansion tax on long-time property owners in Chicago's Black communities.

Steve Moore's commentary on the decline of Chicago due to high taxes and an anti-business atmosphere.

Comparison of Chicago's situation with failed tax policies in Los Angeles and the broader issue of high taxes driving people out of progressive cities and states.

Discussion on the Federal Reserve's March policy meeting and progressives' push for lower interest rates.

Critique of the progressive agenda and its potential to exacerbate inflation and negatively impact vulnerable populations.

Concerns about the impact of interest rate cuts on safe investments and the financial security of the elderly and those on fixed incomes.

Transcripts

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POSTED:

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DAGEN: LET'S BRING IN FORMER

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FEDERAL PROSECUTOR ANDREW

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AND FREEDOM WORKS CHIEF

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ECONOMIST STEVE MOORE.

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ANDREW, LET ME START WITH

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YOU ON THIS.

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THIS VIOLATES THE 8

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AMENDMENT GUARANTEE AGAINST

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EXCESSIVE FINDS.

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WHERE DOES THIS GO WITH

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PRESIDENT TRUMP NOT HAVING

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THE BOND.

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THIS WILL APPELLATE COURT

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ALLOW THE APPEAL WITHOUT THE

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BOND IN PLACE.

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YOU ARE RIGHT.

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THE QUESTION IS HOW WILL IT

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WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE

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COURT OF APPEALS, I AM

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HOPEFUL NEW YORK COURT WILL

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TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT DONALD

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TRUMP IS ASKING FOR A LOWER

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BOND OR SAYING HE SHOULD BE

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ABLE TO GO THROUGH APPELLATE

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PROCESS WITH NO BOND, THAT

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, THAT IS REASONABLE ACT

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OF, EVEN IF THAT IS NOT ABLE

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TO HAPPEN, I DON'T THINK

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THAT EXHAUSTS THE LEGAL

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REMEDIES AND APPEALS THAT

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DONALD TRUMP WILL HAVE, THIS

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COULD MAKES IT WAY TO

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SUPREME COURT QUICKLY.

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SEAN: STEVE, WITH THE

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JUDGMENT THIS SIZE, AND

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REQUIREMENT, DONALD TRUMP

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WOULD HAVE TO POST A BOND

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120% OF THE JUDGMENT DUE,

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TRUMP SAID THEY ARE LOOKING

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FOR ASSETS OF A BILLION

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DOLLARS.

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THIS HAS TO CHILL EVERY

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BUSINESS IN NEW YORK SAYING,

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IF THEY CAN GO AFTER DONALD

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TRUMP AND PUT HIM IN A

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CORNER, THIS COULD HAPPEN TO

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ANY OF US, I HAVE TO IMAGINE

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THERE HAVE TO BE BUSINESSES

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RETHINKING THEIR ALLEGIANCE

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AND BUSINESS MODELS IN THE

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STATE.

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>> NEW YORK HAS ONE OF THE

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MOST UNFAVORABLE BUSINESS

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CLIMATES ACCORDS TO STATE

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LEGISLATIVE GROUP, THAT

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ONE OF THE THE REASON THAT

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PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MOVING.

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THIS IS JUST A SIGN BY THE

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JUDICIAL TEMP IN -- SYSTEM

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IN NEW YORK THAT WE'RE NOT

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OPEN FOR BUSINESS, WE VIEW

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BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN AS

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ENEMIES OF THE STATE.

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LET'S NOT FORGET THAT DONALD

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TRUMP, WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM

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OR NOT HELPED BUILD MODERN

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NEW YORK.

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HE BUILT HUGE BUILDINGS AND

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HE YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN A

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FIXTURE OF THE COMMUNITY

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THERE, THIS IS THE REPAYMENT

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FOR HIM, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS,

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A LOT OF VIEWERS OF THIS

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SHOW AGREE WITH ME, RIGHT

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NOW IN AMERICA WE HAVE A

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TWO-TIER JUSTICE

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SEMIS, LIKE IN BLUE STATES

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LIKE NEW YORK.

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DAGEN: ANDREW.

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THE PARENT OF A TRUE SOCIAL

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TO BE MERGING AT END THIS

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WEEK WITH AN ENTITY IT IS

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DIGITAL WORLD ACQUISITION

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THAT IS PUBLICLY TRADED IF

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THAT GOES THROUGH, THEN THIS

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WILL BE AN EASILY VALUED

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STAKE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

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OWNS IN A PUBLICLY TRADED

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ENTITY, THAT WOULD GIVE HIM

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LIQUID HE COULD BORROW

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AGAINST.

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IF HE COULD BORROW AGAINST

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THAT MONEY, IT -- HIS STAKE

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AND HIS WORTH A COUPLE

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BILLION, COULD HE JUST

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BORROW AGAINST THAT AND NOT

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NEED A BOND, IS HE ALLOWED

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TO PUT UP, IF HE CAN GET

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MONEY IN CASH AND DUMP IT IN

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WITH THE COURT IS THAT

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ALLOWED OR DUMP THE CASH

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WITH ASSURITY COMPANY?

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>> THERE ARE SPECIFIC

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PROCESSEES TO BE FOLLOWED

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WHETHER HIM PUTTING

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CASH IN TOTAL OR ENOUGH FOR

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A BOND.

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THAT IS HIS PROBLEM RIGHT

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NOW HE DOES NOT HAVE LIQUIDY

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FROM A CASH BASIS.

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AS OPPOSED TO THE GREAT

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HOLDINGS HE HAS IN REAL

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ESTATE, YOU CAN'T USE THAT

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LEVERAGE TO GET THE BONDS.

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I AM NOT READY TO COUNT HIM

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OUT IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT

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LEGAL OR BUSINESS STRATEGIES

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HE COULD USE BETWEEN NOW AND

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MONDAY TO POST THE BOND AND

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HAVE HIS FULL APPEAL, EITHER

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WAY THE APPELLATE ROAD IS

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LONG AHEAD FOR HIM.

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SEAN: TO ANDREW, QUICKLY, I

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HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT THE

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APPELLATE COURT DOESN'T LOOK

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KINDLY ON DONALD TRUMP

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EITHER.

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AND SO, WE HAVE THIS

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CONVERSATION ABOUT 8

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AMENDMENT AND FEDERAL ROUTE

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FOR APPEAL, YOU CAN DOUBLE

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TRACK IT.

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CAN HE APPEAL IN STATE COURT

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AND FEDERAL APPEAL AS WELL

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OR DOES HE HAVE TO EXHAUST

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THE STATE APPEAL THEN GO

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FEDERAL?

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>> SHE WOULD HAVE TO EXHAUST

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STATE APPEAL, I WOULD

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IMAGINE HE WOULD MONDAY FILE

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HIS APPEAL, IT WOULD BE

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REJECTED BY THE COURT IF

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THEY ARE STILL REQUIRING

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THAT BOND.

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-- THEN HE WOULD APPEAL TO

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NEXT LAYER OF THE NEW YORK

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APPELLATE COURTS TO COMPLAIN

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THAT THE APPEAL SHOULD HAVE

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BEEN CONSIDERED DESPITE THE

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BOND, WHICH THAT IS REJECTED

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THEN HE COULD HAVE HIS PATH

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TO SUPREME COURT AS A DIRECT

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APPEAL FROM THE STATE HIGH

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COURT DECISION.

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DAGEN: STEVE, IN TERMS OF,

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THIS IS WHAT SOMEONE TOLD ME

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WHO WORKED IN BUSINESS, THE

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MESSAGE IS BACK THE WRONG

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PERSON POLITICALLY AND THESE

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PURECRATS GO AFTER --

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BUREAUCRATS WILL GO AFTER

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YOUR BUSINESS AND TRY TO

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BANKRUPT YOU FOR YOUR OWN

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POLITICAL GAIN, I AM

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SURPRISED THAT MORE

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BUSINESSES HAVE NOT SKI DAD

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ELED FROM THIS HELL

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HOLE.

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>> THEY ARE DOING IT AT

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RECORD PACE, NEW BUREAU CAME

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OUT ON COUNTIES LOSING

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POPULATION, A LOT OF THOSE

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COUNTIES, AROUND NEW YORK

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CITY ARE LOSING THEIR

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POPULATION BECAUSE OF THE

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ADVERSE VIEW THAT THE

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POLITICIANS HAVE ON TRUMP.

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BUT, HERE IS AN INTERESTING

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THING TO TELL YOU, I WAS

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FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE

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DINNER WITH DONALD TRUMP

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THURSDAY NIGHT IN

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MAR-A-LAGO.

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I JUST GOT TO TELL YOU, HE

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IS UPBEAT AND CHARGING

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FORWARD, MOST OF US WOULD BE

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WILLING UNDER -- WILTING,

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THEY WANT TO PUT HIM IN JAIL

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FOR 550 YEARS AND HE IS

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TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE

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ECONOMY GOING AND MAKING

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AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HERE, IS

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LIKE A SUPERHERO THAT WAY

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DEFLECTING FROM THE CRAZY

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LUNATIC CHARGES AGAINST HIM,

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THAT SAY REAL ADMIRABLE

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FUTURE OF DONALD TRUMP.

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SEAN: DONALD TRUMP IS A

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UNIQUE CAT FOR SURE, HE

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KEEPS CHARGES ON WITH A

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GREAT ATTITUDE, ANDREW THANK

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YOU FOR BEING WITH US, STEVE

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STICK AROUND FOR A BIT.

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WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR

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YOU.

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ANDREW THANK YOU.

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>> AMERICANS ARE HITTING

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POLLS, IN ARIZONA, FLORIDA,

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ILLINOIS, KANSAS AND OHIO,

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HOLDING PRESIDENTIAL

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PRIMARIES.

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DAGEN: IN OHIO, ALL EYES ON

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SENATE PRIMARY.

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SEAN: 3 REPUBLICANS RUNNING

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FOR A CHANCE TO FACEOFF

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AGAINST ONLY DEMOCRAT

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SENATOR REMAINING IN BUCKEYE

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STATE THAT SHARON BROWN.

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DAGEN: BERNIE MORENO IS A

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BUSINESSMAN BACKED BY

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PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND JD

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VANCE.

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HE CAUGHT HEAT FROM TRUMP

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FOR CHANGING TEAM'S NAME

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FROM THE CLEVELAND INDIANS,

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WAIT.

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AND THE LAST ON THE LIST,

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SECRETARY OF STATE FRANK LA

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ROSE.

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SEAN: TO ILLINOIS, CHICAGO

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VOTERS DECIDING WHETHER THAT

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I WANT TO CHANGE THE WAY

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THAT REAL ESTATE IS

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TRANSFERRED, OR TAXED.

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AND PROPOSING A NEW MANSION

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TAX.

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DAGEN: KELLY SIBIRY IS LIVE

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IN CHICAGO TO BREAK DOWN

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THAT MANSION TAX.

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REPORTER: WE SAW THIS HAPPEN

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IN L.A., THEY IMPOSE THIS

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TRANSFER TAX AFTER IT PASSED

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BY 58% IN FOR PROPERTIES

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OVER 5 MILLION, HERE IN

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CHICAGO PEOPLE ARE VOTING ON

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SAME GRADUATE THE TACK FOR

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PLOPTY --

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GRADUATED TAX FOR PROPERTIES

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OVER 1 MILLION DOLLAR,

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PROPOSE.

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SO THAT SAY 20% DECREASE.

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FOR SALES BETWEEN 1 MILLION

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AND 1.5 MILLION, THE RATE

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WOULD BE 10 DOLLARS FOR

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EVERY $500 IN VALUE.

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THEN OVER 1.5 MILLION, YOU

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ARE LOOKING AT TAX

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INCREASING TO 15 BUCKS FOR

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EVERY 500 DOLLARS IN

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PURCHASE PRICE, MAKING A 200

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MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTY

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TAXES INCREASE FROM 15

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THOUSAND TO 60 THOUSAND,

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SUPPORTERS TELL US IT COULD

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RAISE 100 THOUSAND TO COMBAT

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HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY,

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BUT THE OPPONENTS TELL ME

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THIS IS NOT JUST THE BIG

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SKYSCRAPERS THAT WE'RE

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TALKING ABOUT.

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>> THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT,

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AND AREAS OF THE BLACK

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COMMUNITY, WHERE THERE HAVE

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BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE SINCE

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1980s WHO HAVE INVESTED IN

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THAT AREA.

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AND THEY OWN PROPERTY, THAT

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ARE NOW WORTH OVER A

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MILLION.

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YOU KNOW THAT COMMUNITY WILL

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SUFFER FROM THIS.

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REPORTER: SOME OF THESE

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ESTIMATES SAY THAT IS THERE

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ABOUT 40 THOUSAND OF THESE

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DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT OR

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PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY

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EVERY DAY HARD WORKING

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PEOPLE IN CHICAGO.

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DAGEN: THANK YOU, KELLY FOR

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LAYING OUT THIS STUPID

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IDEA.

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COMING OUT OF CHICAGO.

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>> FOR MORE, WE WELCOME BACK

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STEVE MOORE.

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YOU ARE THE SON OF CHICAGO.

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YET OR TWO DAYS AGO WE WERE

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TALKING ABOUT THE

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REPARATIONS PUSH IN CHICAGO,

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THEY WANT DESCENDANTS OF

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SLAVES TO NOT PAY PROPERTY

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TAXES, NOW A MANSION TAX,

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PLAY OUT WHEN CHICAGO LOOKS

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LIKE IF THEY HAVE THAT, WHAT

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HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WITH

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MONEY?

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>> I MEAN, AS YOU KNOW THIS

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IS HEARTBREAKING TO ME, I

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GREW UP IN CHICAGO, I LOVE

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THE CITY, IT IS ONE OF THE

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10 GREATEST CITIES IN THE

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WORLD, I AM BIASED.

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BUT TO SEE WHAT SHAPED IN

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THE LAST -- WHAT HAPPENED IN

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LAST 5 OR 6 YEARS, AND A

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YEAR AND A HALF AGO THE CITY

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OF CHICAGO RESIDENTS VOTED

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FOR A MARXIST FOR THEIR

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MAYOR, HE IS A TRUE MARXIST,

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HE BELIEVES TO

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REDISTRIBUTION, AND SOCK IT

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TO THE RICH, THEY ARE

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LEAVING LIKE WE WERE TALKING

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ABOUT KEN GRIFFIN HAD A

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BUSINESS IN CHICAGO AREA,

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EMPLOYED HUNDREDS OF WORKERS

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WAS BIGGEST PHILANTHROPIST

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IN THE CITY, HE PROVIDED

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EVERYTHING FROM HOMELESS

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SHELTERS TO SOUP KITCHENS TO

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GIVING MONEY TO MUSEUMS

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HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

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HE IS OUT OF THERE.

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BECAUSE OF THESE HIGH TAXES,

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ANTI-BUSINESS ATMOSPHERE,

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THE CRIME IN THE STREET AND

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CHALLENGING WHICH HAS LOST

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ITS LUSTER -- CHICAGO HAS

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LOST ITS LUSTER, THE FOLKS

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WHO LEAVING CHICAGO THEY MAY

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GO TO WISCONSIN FOR GOODNESS

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SAKE.

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DAGEN: JUST HOW STUPID ARE

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THE LIBERALS THEY PICK UP

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THE IDEAS THAT HAVE FAILED

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IN OTHER PLACES?

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L.A., LOS ANGELES LOS

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ANGELES IN 2022 DID THE

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SAME THEM IT DID NOT RAISE

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CLOSE TO REVENUE THAT THE

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LEFTIES SAID IT WOULD.

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BECAUSE THE RICH PEOPLE JUST

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DIDN'T PUT THEIR PROPERTIES

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UP FOR SALE.

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AND SO, THE INITIAL ESTIMATE

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FOR L.A. WAS THAT ALMOST A

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BILLION WAS GOING TO COME

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IN, IN NEW REVENUE IN A

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YEAR, AND THEN IT TURNED OUT

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IT WAS LIKE A 10TH OF THAT

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MAYBE.

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>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

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SO, CALIFORNIA IS ANOTHER

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EXAMPLE OF JUST SAD STATE OF

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AFFAIRS IN AMERICA, WHAT IS

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IT ABOUT THESE PROGRESSIVE

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CITIES AND PROGRESSIVE

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STATES, THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO

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BE WORKERS PARADISES AND

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EVERYONE IS LEAVING.

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE

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NEWS JUST IN LAST 24 HOURS,

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THAT CALIFORNIA NOW HAS ONCE

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AGAIN, A RECORD BUDGET

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DEFICIT, THEY CAN'T BALANCE

12:19

THEIR BUDGET THIS STATE HAS

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HIGHEST INCOME TAXES AND

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HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES AND

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HIGHEST SALE TAXES AND

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HIGHEST GAS TAXES.

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AT SOME POINT YOU FIGHT

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FIGURE OUT, MAYBE WE SHOULD

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CUT TAXES AND PEOPLE WILL

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COME BACK, CALIFORNIA, THEY

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ARE NOW IN TEXAS AND

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FLORIDA.

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SEAN: STICKING ON THEME OF

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BAD IDEAS FEDERAL RESERVE

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HOSTED MARCH POLICY MEETS

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PROGRESSIVES ON ON HOPE TO

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PRESSURE HOME TO LOWERING

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INTEREST RATES, SENATOR

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BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH

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WARREN JOINED BY 20 HOUSE

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DEMOCRATS IN A LETTER

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PUSHING POWELL TO CUT RATES,

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ASAP, A DOUBLE ENDED SWORDS,

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YOU WILL FEEL INFLATION AND

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LOSE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

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>> YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

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I DON'T SEE THE CASE RIGHT

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NOW SEAN FOR CUTTING THE

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RATES, I WISH I COULD SEE IT

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BUT I DON'T.

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IF YOU LOOK AT COMMODITY

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PRICES AND COLD PRICE AND

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BITCOIN -- COAL PRICE AND

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BITCOIN, WE HAVE NOT SLAIN

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THE INFLATION DRAGON, WE

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HAVE NOT, NOW THEY ARE

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TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 2%

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INFLATION SHOULD NOT BE OUR

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TARGET, WE WILL RAISE IT TO

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3% THAT JUST GIVING UP, I