Brooks and Capehart on Nikki Haley announcing her support for Trump
Summary
TLDR在这段视频脚本中,讨论了前南卡罗来纳州州长妮基·海利宣布将在秋季回归政治舞台,并表示她将投票给特朗普,尽管她之前对他的品行表示过强烈谴责。分析人士布鲁克斯和卡普哈特讨论了海利此举背后的动机,包括她可能的政治野心和对共和党的忠诚。同时,他们还探讨了特朗普在纽约的刑事案件,以及这对即将到来的选举可能产生的影响。此外,还讨论了特朗普和拜登如何向有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民,进行政治宣传,以及这些努力是否真正影响了他们的投票倾向。
Takeaways
- 🗳️ 尼基·黑利宣布将在秋季回归政治舞台,她表示将投票给特朗普,但希望特朗普能与她的支持者接触。
- 🤔 大卫·布鲁克斯认为尼基·黑利支持特朗普可能是为了政治生存,而乔纳森·卡普哈特则批评这种为了政治目的而放弃原则的行为。
- 🎯 布鲁克斯强调道德品质在政治中的重要性,认为黑利应该坚持她在竞选结束时对特朗普的批评。
- 📊 卡普哈特指出,尽管特朗普在竞选中对黑利的攻击,她现在支持他是出于政治野心,而非真正的政治信念。
- 📰 特朗普的刑事封口费审判受到70%受访者的关注,这可能对选举产生影响。
- 📈 卡普哈特认为,如果特朗普被定罪,这将是公众关注的焦点,而布鲁克斯则对公众是否真的在关注持怀疑态度。
- 🌍 布鲁克斯提出,选举不仅仅是美国的问题,而是全球范围内右翼政党的崛起,这可能会影响选举结果。
- 🔍 如果特朗普被定罪,预计拜登总统会对此发表评论,但目前他保持距离。
- 📣 特朗普和拜登都在积极接触有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民。
- 🔎 特朗普声称大量移民对美国黑人社区产生了负面影响,而拜登则强调了对黑人社区的投资和支持。
- 📈 有争议的民调显示特朗普在黑人中的支持率上升,但卡普哈特认为这可能是基于小样本量的误导性数据。
Q & A
尼基·海莉为何在结束竞选后选择支持特朗普?
-尼基·海莉支持特朗普可能是出于政治生存和未来职业发展的考虑。她选择了与特朗普世界合作的'马尔科·卢比奥选项',而不是像利兹·切尼那样采取原则立场。
特朗普的道德品质是否会影响他的政治前途?
-道德品质确实重要,不应该为了政治便利而忽视。如果一个人被认为是道德败坏的,那么他的政策立场和政治前途都可能受到质疑。
为什么说尼基·海莉的转变可能是出于政治生存的考虑?
-尼基·海莉在竞选期间对特朗普有严厉的批评,但后来选择支持他,这可能是因为她希望继续自己的政治生涯,并在共和党内部保持影响力。
特朗普在纽约的刑事案件审判结果会如何影响选举?
-如果特朗普被判有罪,可能会影响公众对他的看法,从而影响选举。但如果是无罪释放,也可能会激发他的支持者,因此审判结果对选举有重要影响。
为什么说特朗普在吸引非白人选民方面取得了进展?
-特朗普可能通过强调经济政策和打击非法移民等议题,赢得了一些非白人选民的支持。但这也有可能是因为某些民调的样本量不足,导致数据不准确。
拜登总统在特朗普刑事审判中会采取什么立场?
-拜登总统可能会在审判结束后根据结果发表意见。如果特朗普被判有罪,拜登可能会强调不应由一个有刑事定罪的人担任总统。
为什么特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到对非裔美国人的影响?
-特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到移民对非裔美国人的负面影响,可能是为了吸引那些对移民问题敏感的白人选民,以此来构建对他们的支持。
如何看待特朗普在非裔美国人中的支持率上升的说法?
-这种说法可能基于样本量较小的民调,因此可能并不准确。实际上,特朗普是否真的在非裔美国人中取得了支持率的上升还需要更多的证据来支持。
为什么说特朗普的刑事审判结果可能不会影响选举?
-如果选民更关心的是经济和社会问题,而不是特朗普的个人问题,那么刑事审判结果可能不会对选举产生太大影响。
如何看待特朗普和拜登都在积极争取有色人种选民的现象?
-这表明两党都认识到有色人种选民在选举中的重要性,并且都在努力扩大自己的选民基础。
拜登总统在莫尔豪斯学院的演讲中提到了哪些关键议题?
-拜登总统在演讲中提到了对传统黑人大学的投资、减少黑人儿童贫困和学生债务减免等议题,这些都是他试图吸引非裔美国人支持的关键政策。
Outlines
😀 尼基·哈利回归与特朗普竞选
尼基·哈利宣布她将在秋季回归,她结束了自己的竞选活动后,外界一直猜测她是否会支持特朗普。她在一次演讲中明确表示将投票给特朗普,但同时敦促特朗普应该向那些投票给她并继续支持她的数百万选民伸出援手,而不是假设他们会无条件地支持他。分析人士指出,作为共和党政治家,哈利选择了与特朗普世界妥协的路线,而不是像利兹·切尼那样坚持原则立场。尽管哈利对特朗普的道德品质有严重质疑,但她仍然选择支持他,这引发了关于政治道德和政治权宜之计的讨论。
😯 特朗普刑事审判与选举影响
特朗普即将面临的刑事审判吸引了大量美国人的关注。最新民调显示,70%的受访者表示他们正在密切关注这场审判。分析人士认为,无论审判结果如何,都会对选举产生影响。如果特朗普被定罪,这将是一个重大事件,而如果被宣告无罪,人们的反应也同样值得关注。此外,讨论还涉及了特朗普和拜登在争取有色人种选民方面的努力,尤其是非洲裔和拉丁裔选民,他们在2020年大选中对拜登的支持至关重要。
😶 选民态度与特朗普的种族政治策略
特朗普在布朗克斯的一次集会上向人群发表讲话,声称大量移民进入美国对非洲裔美国人产生了负面影响,导致他们失去工作和住房。与此同时,拜登在莫尔豪斯学院的毕业典礼上发表演讲,强调了对抗极端主义势力的重要性,并提出了一系列针对非洲裔美国人的经济和社会政策。分析人士指出,特朗普的策略可能不是直接争取非洲裔或拉丁裔选民的支持,而是向摇摆不定的白人选民发出信号,让他们认为特朗普可能并不像他们想象的那么糟糕。此外,讨论还涉及了民意调查的准确性和它们在预测选举结果方面的局限性。
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Keywords
💡特朗普
💡尼基·黑利
💡政治生存
💡道德品质
💡政治野心
💡刑事审判
💡民意调查
💡政治立场
💡选举
💡政治策略
Highlights
Nikki Haley宣布将在秋季回归,她将投票给特朗普。
Haley在退出竞选后,是否支持特朗普成为焦点。
Haley建议特朗普应该接触那些投票给她并继续支持她的数百万选民。
David Brooks认为,作为共和党政治家,Haley选择了与特朗普世界合作的选项。
Brooks质疑道德品质问题,认为这不应被政治便利所掩盖。
Jonathan Capehart批评Haley放弃了她在竞选最后几周所展示的信念。
讨论了特朗普在纽约的刑事封口费审判及其对选举可能产生的影响。
70%的受访者表示他们正在密切关注审判。
Brooks认为,如果特朗普被定罪或宣告无罪,公众的反应将是值得关注的。
Capehart对人们是否真的在密切关注审判表示怀疑。
讨论了选举的中心议题,以及审判结果如何影响公众的看法。
Brooks指出,全球范围内右翼政党的表现良好,这可能是一个类似的年份。
讨论了拜登总统在审判结果出来后可能的反应。
两位候选人都在积极接触有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民。
特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到了移民对美国黑人社区的负面影响。
讨论了特朗普是否真的在有色人种选民中取得了进展,以及这是否会影响投票结果。
Brooks强调,工作阶级选民的投票趋势是跨选举和跨民调的真实现象。
Transcripts
G
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL, NIKKI HALEY
ANNOUNCES SHE WILL BE BACK IN
HER FORMER ARRIVAL THIS FALL.
WE WILL TURN OUT TO THE ANALYSIS
OF BROOKS AND CAPEHART WITH
DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN
CAPEHART, ASSOCIATE EDITOR FOR
THE WASHINGTON POST.
GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH HERE
IN PERSON TOGETHER.
LET'S START WITH NIKKI HALEY.
SINCE SHE ENDED HER CAMPAIGN,
THE BIG QUESTION WAS IF SHE
WOULD ENDORSE TRUMP THIS WEEK.
SHE ANSWERED THAT.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> I WILL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP.
HAVING SAID THAT, I STAND BY
WHAT I SAID IN MY SUSPENSION
SPEECH, TRUMP WOULD BE SMART TO
REACH OUT TO THE MILLIONS OF WHO
VOTED FOR ME AND CONTINUE
TO SUPPORT ME, AND NOT ASSUME
THAT THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE
WITH HIM.
AND I GENUINELY HOPE HE DOES
THAT.
>> DAVID, SHE DID NOT HAVE TO DO
THIS, RIGHT?
CHRIS CHRISTIE RAN AGAINST HIM
AND HAS NOT ENDORSED HIM, ASA
HUTCHINSON, THE SAME.
WHY DO THIS AND WHY NOW?
>> IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN
POLITICIAN, YOU HAVE TWO
OPTIONS, THE LIZ CHENEY OPTION,
WHERE YOU TAKE A PRINCIPLED
STANDING AND YOU BECOME A FORMER
POLITICIAN, OR THE SECOND, THE
MARCO RUBIO OPTION, WHICH AS YOU
GET ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM AND
DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND JUST GET
ALONG WITH TRUMP WORLD.
I ASSUME NIKKI HALEY WANTS TO
CONTINUE HER CAREER AS A
POLITICIAN AND BELIEVES
FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AND SHE HAS GONE FOR THE
MARCO RUBIO OPTION.
THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK HER IS,
IN MOST LINES OF WORK, IF YOU
THINK SOMEONE IS A MORAL
DEGENERATE, YOU DON'T GET TO THE
SECOND QUESTION OF, WHAT DO YOU
THINK ABOUT TAX POLICY?
[LAUGHTER]
YOU SORT OF STOP THERE.
SHE REALLY HAS SERIOUS NOT ONLY
DOUBTS BUT IS TOTALLY CONDEMNING
OF HIS CHARACTER.
WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT MARGINAL
TAX RATES?
IF HE'S A BAD GUY, HE'S GOING TO
BE -- SHE CARES ABOUT AMERICA'S
ALLIANCES ABROAD AND I AGREE
WITH HER ON MOST ISSUES ON THAT
FRONT BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE
GOOD FOR ALLIES IF HE'S GOING TO
BETRAY ALLIES, AS HE BETRAYS ALL
HIS FRIENDS.
MORAL CHARACTER REALLY DOES
MATTER.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUMP
OVER FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE.
>> IS IT ABOUT POLITICAL
SURVIVOR, IS IT A VP PLAY,
POTENTIALLY?
>> WHO KNOWS?
QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T CARE.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE FOR
ALL THE THINGS DAVID JUST SAID,
THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION, GET WITH
THE PROGRAM, YOU THROW ALL THE
VALUES -- ALL YOUR VALUES, ALL
YOUR POSITIONS, ALL YOUR
CHARACTER OUT THE WINDOW FOR
POLITICAL PURPOSES?
THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION
IS A SOULLESS OPTION.
SHE CALLED TRUMP EVERYTHING BUT
A CHILD OF GOD IN THE CLOSING
WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND NOW
SHE IS SAYING I'M GOING TO VOTE
FOR HIM -- BUT?
THE DAVID'S POINT, THERE IS NO
BUT HERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC POLICY
OR FOREIGN POLICY.
I WISH NIKKI HALEY HAD STOOD BY
THE CONVICTION SHE SHOWED IN THE
FINAL WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND
GONE THE LIZ CHENEY ROUTE AND
NOT BLOW UP HER CAREER BUT TO
SOMETHING BIGGER THAN CRAVEN
POLITICAL AMBITION SOMEWHERE
DOWN THE ROAD.
>> YOU SAY SHE DID IT FOR
POLITICAL SURVIVOR, IS THAT
POLITICAL FUTURE UNDERMINED BY
SOMEONE WHO COMPLETELY 180'ED ON
HER STANCE?
NOW SHE ENDORSES HIM?
>> NOT IN MY LIFETIME, HOPEFULLY
A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
FOR THE NEXT DECADE.
THIS IS A WORKING-CLASS
POPULIST PARTY AND YOU BETTER
GET WITH A TRUMP PROGRAM OR I
REALLY DON'T SEE A FUTURE FOR
YOU.
>> SPEAKING OF FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP, BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK,
WE COULD HAVE A VERDICT IN HIS
CRIMINAL HUSH MONEY TRIAL IN NEW
YORK WHICH THE LATEST POLLS SHOW
A LOT OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN
PAYING ATTENTION TO IN SOME
FORM.
THE LATEST NUMBERS FROM
QUINNIPIAC SHOW A 70% OF THOSE
POLLED SAY THEY ARE VERY CLOSELY
OR SOMEWHAT CLOSELY FOLLOWING
THE TRIAL.
DO YOU THINK A CONVICTION OR
ACQUITTAL CHANGES THE RACE AT
ALL?
>> YES, HOW COULD IT NOT WHEN
YOU HAVE 70% OF THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE PAYING ATTENTION?
IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,
I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW
THE PEOPLE REACT.
IF IT IS A CONVICTION,
I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW
PEOPLE REACT.
THAT IS A GREAT SIGN.
I AM GLAD THE MAJORITY OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
PAYING ATTENTION TO A TRIAL
THAT IS NOT EVEN BEING
TELEVISED.
BEFORE THE TRIAL STARTED,
I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
MAYBE THIS YEAR WILL BE
LIKE THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE
HEARINGS.
NOT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY
WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT BUT THEY
DID.
BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A SLOW
TRICKLE.
PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION.
THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TOLD PEOPLE
THEY WERE PAYING ATTENTION.
BUT HOW CAN YOU SIT THROUGH
10 EPISODES OF COMPELLING
TESTIMONY AND NOT HAVE IT IMPACT
YOU?
WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS --
THIS CHILD IS NOT EVEN BEING
TELEVISED.
ON CABLE TELEVISION,
THEY ARE GETTING LIVE
READOUTS FROM REPORTERS
INSIDE THE COURTROOM YET PEOPLE
ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
THAT IS A GREAT SIGN
FOR THE REPUBLIC.
>> I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.
[LAUGHTER]
U.S. PEOPLE, ARE YOU PLAYING --
YOU ASK PEOPLE, ARE YOU PAYING
CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE ENTIRE
ELECTION?
IS LIKE 45%, 50%.
I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.
[LAUGHTER]
WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?
I AM UNSURE ABOUT IT.
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT SAY IT
WILL.
BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,
WHAT IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT?
ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID EVERY
ELECTION IS ABOUT AN ESSENTIAL
QUESTION, IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT
--
DONALD TRUMP IS A THREAT TO
DEMOCRACY, IF THAT IS WHAT IS
AT THE CENTER OF PEOPLE'S MINDS,
THEN THE TRIAL WILL HAVE AN
EFFECT.
BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,
THE ELITES ARE
SCREWING US AND CRUSHING THIS
COUNTRY AND IF NOT, PEOPLE WILL
NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE CHILD
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BIGGER
THINGS ON THEIR MINDS.
MY REVELATION IS, IT IS A
MISTAKE TO LOOK AT THIS ELECTION
IN AMERICA ONLY TERMS.
IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD,
WHO WAS DOING WELL, IT'S PEOPLE
LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHETHER IT IS
IN MODI IN INDIA, IN INDONESIA,
IN THE NETHERLANDS, ALL AROUND
THE WORLD, RIGHT WING PARTIES,
PORTUGAL, THEY ARE DOING
PHENOMENAL.
THIS MAY BE JUST THAT KIND OF
YEAR.
BUT I AM UNCERTAIN.
WHICH WILL BE THE CENTRAL
QUESTION?
>> IF THE TRIAL MATTERS, AND
IF THERE IS A CONVICTION,
SO FAR WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT
BIDEN KEEPING IT AT ARMS LENGTH,
DO YOU THINK WE WILL HEAR MORE
FROM HIM IF THERE'S A
CONVICTION?
WILL HE LEAN INTO IT?
>> WE WILL HEAR MORE FROM HIM
ONCE OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS HAS
PLAYED ITSELF OUT.
NO MATTER WHAT THE VERDICT IS.
IF IT'S A CONVICTION,
YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE WILL SAY
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
YOU WANT IT CRIMINALLY --
A CRIMINALLY CONVICTED PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES?
IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT
THE MESSAGE IS.
JUST AS PRESIDENT BIDEN
DID NOT TALK ABOUT TRUMP
BY NAME UNTIL HE WAS THE
PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE, I DON'T
EXPECT THEM TO SAY ANYTHING
UNTIL THE CASE IS DONE.
>> WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN
AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING
A LOT OF OUTREACH TO VOTERS OF
COLOR IN PARTICULAR, BLACK
VOTERS AND HISPANIC VOTERS, A
GROUP THAT WENT HEAVILY FOR MR.
BIDEN AND 2020 -- IN 2020.
HERE IS PART OF WHAT HE HAD TO
SAY TO THE GRADUATING CLASS AT
MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.
>> WE KNOW BLACK MEN ARE GOING
TO HELP LEAD US IN THE FUTURE,
FROM THIS CLASS AND THIS
UNIVERSITY.
[APPLAUSE]
GRADUATES, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE
UP AGAINST, EXTREMIST FORCES.
THEY PEDDLE FICTION, A
CARICATURE.
BUT BEING A MAN IS ABOUT
TOUGH TALK.
ABUSING POWER, BIGOTRY,
THEIR IDEA IS TOXIC.
>> HERE IS HOW FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP ADDRESSED A CROWD IN THE
BRONX LAST NIGHT.
>> THESE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR
COUNTRY -- THE'S BIGGEST IMPACT
ON THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE IMPACT
IS AGAINST OUR BLACK POPULATION
WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS,
LOSING THEIR HOUSING, LOSING
EVERYTHING THEY CAN LOSE.
>> THOSE ARE TWO VERY
DIFFERENT KINDS OF MESSAGING YET
TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS WITH SOME
OF THESE VOTERS OF COLOR.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
>> OK, BUCKLE UP.
[LAUGHTER]
THIS INROADS, THIS NOTION
TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS AS A
RESULT OF A NEW YORK TIMES POLL
THAT CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY, WHERE
SHOCKINGLY IT SAID TRUMP WAS
GETTING 23% OF BLACK SUPPORT --
NOW, WHEN I WAS CONFRONTED WITH
THIS, I WAS LIKE, DO YOU EVEN
KNOW THE SAMPLE SIZE?
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT --
AS ANY BLACK POLLSTER, THEY ARE
LIKE, IT'S NOT THERE.
THE SAMPLE SIZE ON THAT POLL WAS
119 RESPONDENTS FOR A NATIONAL
POLL.
>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.
>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.
WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY FOUR
YEARS.
WILL BLACK VOTERS SHOW UP?
THE SUPPORT IS SOFTENING --
MY GOD, IT FEELS LIKE, TO LOTS
OF US THAT THESE NARRATIVES ARE
PERPETUATED SO THAT IF THE
DEMOCRAT LOSES, NO MATTER WHAT
RACE, OH, THE AFRICAN AMERICANS
DID NOT SHOW UP SO IT IS THEIR
FAULT.
WITH THE PRESIDENT'S'S SPEECH,
HE MADE THE MORAL ARGUMENT ABOUT
DEMOCRACY AND MASCULINITY IN
EVERYTHING BUT HE ALSO TALKED
SPECIFICS.
$16 BILLION INVESTED IN HBCUS.
CUTTING BLACK CHILD POVERTY.
WHAT GOT THE BIGGEST APPLAUSE
LINE WAS STUDENT DEBT RELIEF.
HE IS COMBINING AN ECONOMIC
MESSAGE WITH THE MORAL MESSAGE.
AND KNOWING WHO HIS AUDIENCE IS,
DONALD TRUMP, THIS IS NOT ABOUT
GETTING BLACK VOTERS TO VOTE FOR
HIM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT GETTING
LATINO VOTERS TO VOTE FOR HIM,
BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW
HISPANIC AMERICANS THERE, AT
THAT RALLY IN THE BRONX, BUT
THIS IS NOT ABOUT COURTING THEM,
THIS IS ABOUT A PERMISSION
STRUCTURE FOR WHITE VOTERS ON
THE PERIPHERY WHO LOOK AND HEAR
LANGUAGE LIKE THAT AND THINK, I
DON'T LIKE THAT, I DON'T LIKE
HIM, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT
SOUNDS, BUT WAIT, HE IS IN THE
SOUTH BRONX, TALKING TO THOSE
PEOPLE, MAYBE HE'S NOT THAT BAD.
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
>> DAVID, A FINAL WORD HERE.
WE'VE GOT A MINUTE LEFT.
>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS ABOUT
ONE POLL.
[LAUGHTER]
OBAMA WON THE WHITE WORKING
CLASS BY 76%, BIDEN IS UP BY 6%.
THE RESULTS IN TEXAS AND
CALIFORNIA, LATINO VOTERS IN
2020, THOSE WERE ACTUAL RESULTS.
THOSE WERE RESULTS SHOWING A
SHIFT.
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL
SHOWING AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN,
30% FOR TRUMP, THESE ARE A WHOLE
BUNCH OF BOWLING RESULTS --
THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE
RESULTS LEAD TO VOTING RESULTS?
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO
DISAFFECTED THAT THEY MAY NOT
VOTE.
IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE THAT
WORKING-CLASS VOTERS ARE VOTING
MORE LIKE WORKING-CLASS VOTERS
NO MATTER WHAT OTHER IDENTITIES
THEY MAY HAVE.
I THINK THERE'S A GENDER GAP
WHERE GUYS ARE MOVING.
HOW BIG THAT IS?
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE MAY
REGISTER A PROTEST WITH THE
POSTER BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET
WITH THINGS BUT THAT DOES NOT
MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE THIS
WAY.
I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO --
I THINK THE TREND TOWARD WORKING
CLASS PEOPLE VOTING, THAT
IS A REAL THING THAT IS ACROSS A
LOT OF ELECTIONS AND A LOT OF
POLLS.
>> POLLS OUR A MOMENT IN TIME,
THEY ARE NOT PREDICTIVE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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