Brooks and Capehart on Nikki Haley announcing her support for Trump

Political analysis with David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart
24 May 202412:12

Summary

TLDR在这段视频脚本中,讨论了前南卡罗来纳州州长妮基·海利宣布将在秋季回归政治舞台,并表示她将投票给特朗普,尽管她之前对他的品行表示过强烈谴责。分析人士布鲁克斯和卡普哈特讨论了海利此举背后的动机,包括她可能的政治野心和对共和党的忠诚。同时,他们还探讨了特朗普在纽约的刑事案件,以及这对即将到来的选举可能产生的影响。此外,还讨论了特朗普和拜登如何向有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民,进行政治宣传,以及这些努力是否真正影响了他们的投票倾向。

Takeaways

  • 🗳️ 尼基·黑利宣布将在秋季回归政治舞台,她表示将投票给特朗普,但希望特朗普能与她的支持者接触。
  • 🤔 大卫·布鲁克斯认为尼基·黑利支持特朗普可能是为了政治生存,而乔纳森·卡普哈特则批评这种为了政治目的而放弃原则的行为。
  • 🎯 布鲁克斯强调道德品质在政治中的重要性,认为黑利应该坚持她在竞选结束时对特朗普的批评。
  • 📊 卡普哈特指出,尽管特朗普在竞选中对黑利的攻击,她现在支持他是出于政治野心,而非真正的政治信念。
  • 📰 特朗普的刑事封口费审判受到70%受访者的关注,这可能对选举产生影响。
  • 📈 卡普哈特认为,如果特朗普被定罪,这将是公众关注的焦点,而布鲁克斯则对公众是否真的在关注持怀疑态度。
  • 🌍 布鲁克斯提出,选举不仅仅是美国的问题,而是全球范围内右翼政党的崛起,这可能会影响选举结果。
  • 🔍 如果特朗普被定罪,预计拜登总统会对此发表评论,但目前他保持距离。
  • 📣 特朗普和拜登都在积极接触有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民。
  • 🔎 特朗普声称大量移民对美国黑人社区产生了负面影响,而拜登则强调了对黑人社区的投资和支持。
  • 📈 有争议的民调显示特朗普在黑人中的支持率上升,但卡普哈特认为这可能是基于小样本量的误导性数据。

Q & A

  • 尼基·海莉为何在结束竞选后选择支持特朗普?

    -尼基·海莉支持特朗普可能是出于政治生存和未来职业发展的考虑。她选择了与特朗普世界合作的'马尔科·卢比奥选项',而不是像利兹·切尼那样采取原则立场。

  • 特朗普的道德品质是否会影响他的政治前途?

    -道德品质确实重要,不应该为了政治便利而忽视。如果一个人被认为是道德败坏的,那么他的政策立场和政治前途都可能受到质疑。

  • 为什么说尼基·海莉的转变可能是出于政治生存的考虑?

    -尼基·海莉在竞选期间对特朗普有严厉的批评,但后来选择支持他,这可能是因为她希望继续自己的政治生涯,并在共和党内部保持影响力。

  • 特朗普在纽约的刑事案件审判结果会如何影响选举?

    -如果特朗普被判有罪,可能会影响公众对他的看法,从而影响选举。但如果是无罪释放,也可能会激发他的支持者,因此审判结果对选举有重要影响。

  • 为什么说特朗普在吸引非白人选民方面取得了进展?

    -特朗普可能通过强调经济政策和打击非法移民等议题,赢得了一些非白人选民的支持。但这也有可能是因为某些民调的样本量不足,导致数据不准确。

  • 拜登总统在特朗普刑事审判中会采取什么立场?

    -拜登总统可能会在审判结束后根据结果发表意见。如果特朗普被判有罪,拜登可能会强调不应由一个有刑事定罪的人担任总统。

  • 为什么特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到对非裔美国人的影响?

    -特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到移民对非裔美国人的负面影响,可能是为了吸引那些对移民问题敏感的白人选民,以此来构建对他们的支持。

  • 如何看待特朗普在非裔美国人中的支持率上升的说法?

    -这种说法可能基于样本量较小的民调,因此可能并不准确。实际上,特朗普是否真的在非裔美国人中取得了支持率的上升还需要更多的证据来支持。

  • 为什么说特朗普的刑事审判结果可能不会影响选举?

    -如果选民更关心的是经济和社会问题,而不是特朗普的个人问题,那么刑事审判结果可能不会对选举产生太大影响。

  • 如何看待特朗普和拜登都在积极争取有色人种选民的现象?

    -这表明两党都认识到有色人种选民在选举中的重要性,并且都在努力扩大自己的选民基础。

  • 拜登总统在莫尔豪斯学院的演讲中提到了哪些关键议题?

    -拜登总统在演讲中提到了对传统黑人大学的投资、减少黑人儿童贫困和学生债务减免等议题,这些都是他试图吸引非裔美国人支持的关键政策。

Outlines

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😀 尼基·哈利回归与特朗普竞选

尼基·哈利宣布她将在秋季回归,她结束了自己的竞选活动后,外界一直猜测她是否会支持特朗普。她在一次演讲中明确表示将投票给特朗普,但同时敦促特朗普应该向那些投票给她并继续支持她的数百万选民伸出援手,而不是假设他们会无条件地支持他。分析人士指出,作为共和党政治家,哈利选择了与特朗普世界妥协的路线,而不是像利兹·切尼那样坚持原则立场。尽管哈利对特朗普的道德品质有严重质疑,但她仍然选择支持他,这引发了关于政治道德和政治权宜之计的讨论。

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😯 特朗普刑事审判与选举影响

特朗普即将面临的刑事审判吸引了大量美国人的关注。最新民调显示,70%的受访者表示他们正在密切关注这场审判。分析人士认为,无论审判结果如何,都会对选举产生影响。如果特朗普被定罪,这将是一个重大事件,而如果被宣告无罪,人们的反应也同样值得关注。此外,讨论还涉及了特朗普和拜登在争取有色人种选民方面的努力,尤其是非洲裔和拉丁裔选民,他们在2020年大选中对拜登的支持至关重要。

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😶 选民态度与特朗普的种族政治策略

特朗普在布朗克斯的一次集会上向人群发表讲话,声称大量移民进入美国对非洲裔美国人产生了负面影响,导致他们失去工作和住房。与此同时,拜登在莫尔豪斯学院的毕业典礼上发表演讲,强调了对抗极端主义势力的重要性,并提出了一系列针对非洲裔美国人的经济和社会政策。分析人士指出,特朗普的策略可能不是直接争取非洲裔或拉丁裔选民的支持,而是向摇摆不定的白人选民发出信号,让他们认为特朗普可能并不像他们想象的那么糟糕。此外,讨论还涉及了民意调查的准确性和它们在预测选举结果方面的局限性。

Mindmap

支持特朗普
保持政治生涯
对特朗普的批评
呼吁特朗普联系支持者
尼基·黑利的政治立场
特朗普的刑事审判
特朗普对少数族裔选民的吸引力
特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲
特朗普的竞选活动
民意调查与关注
选举的中心议题
特朗普对民主的威胁
选举与民意
尼基·黑利与特朗普的道德立场
政治生存与道德原则
政治人物的立场转变
政治人物的道德与立场
特朗普与少数族裔选民
特朗普的选民基础
政治人物与选民的沟通方式
政治策略与选民关系
移民政策对少数族裔的影响
经济政策与选民
教育与社会投资
选举与社会议题
尼基·黑利的策略选择
政治人物的长远规划
政治人物与政党的关系
政治人物的策略选择
政治动态与选举策略
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Keywords

💡特朗普

特朗普指的是美国前总统唐纳德·特朗普,他是视频中讨论的关键人物之一。视频中提到了特朗普的竞选活动以及他可能面临的刑事审判,这些都与美国的政治现状紧密相关。例如,视频中提到了特朗普在纽约的刑事封口费审判,以及他如何通过与选民的接触来影响选举结果。

💡尼基·黑利

尼基·黑利是视频中讨论的另一位重要人物,她是美国南卡罗来纳州的前州长,也是特朗普政府时期的美国驻联合国大使。视频中提到她宣布将在秋季回归政治舞台,并且她已经表态将在选举中投票给特朗普,尽管她在初选期间曾对他提出批评。

💡政治生存

政治生存指的是政治人物为了保持其政治生涯和影响力而采取的策略和行动。视频中提到尼基·黑利可能出于政治生存的考虑而选择支持特朗普,这表明政治人物有时会根据政治环境和个人职业规划来调整自己的立场。

💡道德品质

道德品质是指个人或政治领袖的道德标准和行为准则。视频中讨论了特朗普的道德品质问题,以及这如何影响人们对他的看法和政治立场。例如,有评论员指出,如果一个人认为另一个人道德败坏,那么他们不太可能支持他的政策或领导。

💡政治野心

政治野心是指政治人物追求更高职位或政治目标的欲望。视频中提到尼基·黑利可能出于政治野心而选择支持特朗普,暗示她的决定可能受到个人职业目标的影响。

💡刑事审判

刑事审判是指法院对被控犯罪的人进行的法律程序。视频中提到特朗普可能面临的刑事封口费审判,这个审判的结果可能会影响公众对他的看法以及选举的走向。

💡民意调查

民意调查是指通过问卷调查等方式收集公众意见的研究方法。视频中提到了关于特朗普和黑人选民支持度的民意调查,这些调查结果被用来分析和预测选举趋势。

💡政治立场

政治立场是指个人或团体在政治问题上的见解和态度。视频中讨论了尼基·黑利的政治立场以及她如何根据政治环境调整自己的立场,这反映了政治人物在面对不同政治压力时可能采取的策略。

💡选举

选举是指通过投票方式选择政府官员或决定政策的过程。视频中多次提到选举,包括特朗普的竞选活动和可能的刑事审判如何影响选举结果,这显示了选举在美国政治中的核心地位。

💡政治策略

政治策略是指政治人物或团体为了实现政治目标而采取的计划和行动。视频中分析了特朗普和拜登如何通过接触不同选民群体来推进他们的政治策略,这包括他们如何传达信息以及如何吸引特定群体的支持。

Highlights

Nikki Haley宣布将在秋季回归,她将投票给特朗普。

Haley在退出竞选后,是否支持特朗普成为焦点。

Haley建议特朗普应该接触那些投票给她并继续支持她的数百万选民。

David Brooks认为,作为共和党政治家,Haley选择了与特朗普世界合作的选项。

Brooks质疑道德品质问题,认为这不应被政治便利所掩盖。

Jonathan Capehart批评Haley放弃了她在竞选最后几周所展示的信念。

讨论了特朗普在纽约的刑事封口费审判及其对选举可能产生的影响。

70%的受访者表示他们正在密切关注审判。

Brooks认为,如果特朗普被定罪或宣告无罪,公众的反应将是值得关注的。

Capehart对人们是否真的在密切关注审判表示怀疑。

讨论了选举的中心议题,以及审判结果如何影响公众的看法。

Brooks指出,全球范围内右翼政党的表现良好,这可能是一个类似的年份。

讨论了拜登总统在审判结果出来后可能的反应。

两位候选人都在积极接触有色人种选民,尤其是黑人和拉丁裔选民。

特朗普在布朗克斯的演讲中提到了移民对美国黑人社区的负面影响。

讨论了特朗普是否真的在有色人种选民中取得了进展,以及这是否会影响投票结果。

Brooks强调,工作阶级选民的投票趋势是跨选举和跨民调的真实现象。

Transcripts

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G

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FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THE

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CAMPAIGN TRAIL, NIKKI HALEY

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ANNOUNCES SHE WILL BE BACK IN

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HER FORMER ARRIVAL THIS FALL.

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WE WILL TURN OUT TO THE ANALYSIS

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OF BROOKS AND CAPEHART WITH

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DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN

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CAPEHART, ASSOCIATE EDITOR FOR

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THE WASHINGTON POST.

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GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH HERE

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IN PERSON TOGETHER.

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LET'S START WITH NIKKI HALEY.

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SINCE SHE ENDED HER CAMPAIGN,

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THE BIG QUESTION WAS IF SHE

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WOULD ENDORSE TRUMP THIS WEEK.

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SHE ANSWERED THAT.

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TAKE A LISTEN.

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>> I WILL BE VOTING FOR TRUMP.

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HAVING SAID THAT, I STAND BY

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WHAT I SAID IN MY SUSPENSION

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SPEECH, TRUMP WOULD BE SMART TO

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REACH OUT TO THE MILLIONS OF WHO

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VOTED FOR ME AND CONTINUE

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TO SUPPORT ME, AND NOT ASSUME

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THAT THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE

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WITH HIM.

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AND I GENUINELY HOPE HE DOES

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THAT.

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>> DAVID, SHE DID NOT HAVE TO DO

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THIS, RIGHT?

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CHRIS CHRISTIE RAN AGAINST HIM

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AND HAS NOT ENDORSED HIM, ASA

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HUTCHINSON, THE SAME.

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WHY DO THIS AND WHY NOW?

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>> IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN

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POLITICIAN, YOU HAVE TWO

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OPTIONS, THE LIZ CHENEY OPTION,

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WHERE YOU TAKE A PRINCIPLED

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STANDING AND YOU BECOME A FORMER

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POLITICIAN, OR THE SECOND, THE

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MARCO RUBIO OPTION, WHICH AS YOU

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GET ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM AND

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DON'T SAY ANYTHING AND JUST GET

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ALONG WITH TRUMP WORLD.

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I ASSUME NIKKI HALEY WANTS TO

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CONTINUE HER CAREER AS A

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POLITICIAN AND BELIEVES

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FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY AND SHE HAS GONE FOR THE

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MARCO RUBIO OPTION.

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THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK HER IS,

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IN MOST LINES OF WORK, IF YOU

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THINK SOMEONE IS A MORAL

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DEGENERATE, YOU DON'T GET TO THE

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SECOND QUESTION OF, WHAT DO YOU

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THINK ABOUT TAX POLICY?

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[LAUGHTER]

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YOU SORT OF STOP THERE.

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SHE REALLY HAS SERIOUS NOT ONLY

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DOUBTS BUT IS TOTALLY CONDEMNING

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OF HIS CHARACTER.

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WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT MARGINAL

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TAX RATES?

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IF HE'S A BAD GUY, HE'S GOING TO

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BE -- SHE CARES ABOUT AMERICA'S

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ALLIANCES ABROAD AND I AGREE

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WITH HER ON MOST ISSUES ON THAT

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FRONT BUT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE

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GOOD FOR ALLIES IF HE'S GOING TO

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BETRAY ALLIES, AS HE BETRAYS ALL

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HIS FRIENDS.

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MORAL CHARACTER REALLY DOES

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MATTER.

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IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUMP

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OVER FOR POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE.

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>> IS IT ABOUT POLITICAL

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SURVIVOR, IS IT A VP PLAY,

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POTENTIALLY?

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>> WHO KNOWS?

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QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T CARE.

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AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE FOR

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ALL THE THINGS DAVID JUST SAID,

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THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION, GET WITH

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THE PROGRAM, YOU THROW ALL THE

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VALUES -- ALL YOUR VALUES, ALL

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YOUR POSITIONS, ALL YOUR

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CHARACTER OUT THE WINDOW FOR

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POLITICAL PURPOSES?

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THE MARCO RUBIO OPTION

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IS A SOULLESS OPTION.

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SHE CALLED TRUMP EVERYTHING BUT

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A CHILD OF GOD IN THE CLOSING

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WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND NOW

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SHE IS SAYING I'M GOING TO VOTE

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FOR HIM -- BUT?

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THE DAVID'S POINT, THERE IS NO

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BUT HERE.

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WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC POLICY

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OR FOREIGN POLICY.

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I WISH NIKKI HALEY HAD STOOD BY

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THE CONVICTION SHE SHOWED IN THE

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FINAL WEEKS OF HER CAMPAIGN AND

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GONE THE LIZ CHENEY ROUTE AND

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NOT BLOW UP HER CAREER BUT TO

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SOMETHING BIGGER THAN CRAVEN

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POLITICAL AMBITION SOMEWHERE

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DOWN THE ROAD.

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>> YOU SAY SHE DID IT FOR

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POLITICAL SURVIVOR, IS THAT

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POLITICAL FUTURE UNDERMINED BY

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SOMEONE WHO COMPLETELY 180'ED ON

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HER STANCE?

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NOW SHE ENDORSES HIM?

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>> NOT IN MY LIFETIME, HOPEFULLY

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A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.

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[LAUGHTER]

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FOR THE NEXT DECADE.

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THIS IS A WORKING-CLASS

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POPULIST PARTY AND YOU BETTER

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GET WITH A TRUMP PROGRAM OR I

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REALLY DON'T SEE A FUTURE FOR

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YOU.

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>> SPEAKING OF FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP, BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK,

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WE COULD HAVE A VERDICT IN HIS

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CRIMINAL HUSH MONEY TRIAL IN NEW

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YORK WHICH THE LATEST POLLS SHOW

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A LOT OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN

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PAYING ATTENTION TO IN SOME

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FORM.

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THE LATEST NUMBERS FROM

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QUINNIPIAC SHOW A 70% OF THOSE

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POLLED SAY THEY ARE VERY CLOSELY

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OR SOMEWHAT CLOSELY FOLLOWING

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THE TRIAL.

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DO YOU THINK A CONVICTION OR

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ACQUITTAL CHANGES THE RACE AT

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ALL?

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>> YES, HOW COULD IT NOT WHEN

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YOU HAVE 70% OF THE PEOPLE WHO

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ARE PAYING ATTENTION?

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IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,

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I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

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THE PEOPLE REACT.

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IF IT IS A CONVICTION,

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I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW

04:20

PEOPLE REACT.

04:21

THAT IS A GREAT SIGN.

04:22

I AM GLAD THE MAJORITY OF

04:25

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE

04:27

PAYING ATTENTION TO A TRIAL

04:29

THAT IS NOT EVEN BEING

04:34

TELEVISED.

04:34

BEFORE THE TRIAL STARTED,

04:35

I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?

04:36

MAYBE THIS YEAR WILL BE

04:37

LIKE THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE

04:38

HEARINGS.

04:40

NOT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY

04:42

WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT BUT THEY

04:42

DID.

04:44

BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A SLOW

04:45

TRICKLE.

04:45

PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION.

04:47

THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TOLD PEOPLE

04:49

THEY WERE PAYING ATTENTION.

04:50

BUT HOW CAN YOU SIT THROUGH

04:52

10 EPISODES OF COMPELLING

04:55

TESTIMONY AND NOT HAVE IT IMPACT

04:56

YOU?

04:57

WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS --

05:00

THIS CHILD IS NOT EVEN BEING

05:01

TELEVISED.

05:02

ON CABLE TELEVISION,

05:03

THEY ARE GETTING LIVE

05:06

READOUTS FROM REPORTERS

05:08

INSIDE THE COURTROOM YET PEOPLE

05:09

ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

05:09

THAT IS A GREAT SIGN

05:11

FOR THE REPUBLIC.

05:12

>> I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.

05:13

[LAUGHTER]

05:14

U.S. PEOPLE, ARE YOU PLAYING --

05:18

YOU ASK PEOPLE, ARE YOU PAYING

05:19

CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE ENTIRE

05:20

ELECTION?

05:20

IS LIKE 45%, 50%.

05:22

I'M SUPER SKEPTICAL.

05:24

[LAUGHTER]

05:27

WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?

05:31

I AM UNSURE ABOUT IT.

05:36

A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT SAY IT

05:37

WILL.

05:37

BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,

05:38

WHAT IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT?

05:40

ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID EVERY

05:42

ELECTION IS ABOUT AN ESSENTIAL

05:43

QUESTION, IS THIS ELECTION ABOUT

05:46

--

05:46

DONALD TRUMP IS A THREAT TO

05:47

DEMOCRACY, IF THAT IS WHAT IS

05:50

AT THE CENTER OF PEOPLE'S MINDS,

05:52

THEN THE TRIAL WILL HAVE AN

05:53

EFFECT.

05:54

BUT THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS,

05:55

THE ELITES ARE

05:59

SCREWING US AND CRUSHING THIS

06:01

COUNTRY AND IF NOT, PEOPLE WILL

06:04

NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE CHILD

06:05

BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BIGGER

06:05

THINGS ON THEIR MINDS.

06:08

MY REVELATION IS, IT IS A

06:10

MISTAKE TO LOOK AT THIS ELECTION

06:11

IN AMERICA ONLY TERMS.

06:12

IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD,

06:14

WHO WAS DOING WELL, IT'S PEOPLE

06:16

LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHETHER IT IS

06:17

IN MODI IN INDIA, IN INDONESIA,

06:22

IN THE NETHERLANDS, ALL AROUND

06:24

THE WORLD, RIGHT WING PARTIES,

06:28

PORTUGAL, THEY ARE DOING

06:29

PHENOMENAL.

06:31

THIS MAY BE JUST THAT KIND OF

06:31

YEAR.

06:33

BUT I AM UNCERTAIN.

06:34

WHICH WILL BE THE CENTRAL

06:35

QUESTION?

06:36

>> IF THE TRIAL MATTERS, AND

06:38

IF THERE IS A CONVICTION,

06:42

SO FAR WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT

06:42

BIDEN KEEPING IT AT ARMS LENGTH,

06:46

DO YOU THINK WE WILL HEAR MORE

06:47

FROM HIM IF THERE'S A

06:47

CONVICTION?

06:48

WILL HE LEAN INTO IT?

06:49

>> WE WILL HEAR MORE FROM HIM

06:52

ONCE OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS HAS

06:53

PLAYED ITSELF OUT.

06:55

NO MATTER WHAT THE VERDICT IS.

06:57

IF IT'S A CONVICTION,

06:59

YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE WILL SAY

07:00

SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

07:01

YOU WANT IT CRIMINALLY --

07:05

A CRIMINALLY CONVICTED PRESIDENT

07:05

OF THE UNITED STATES?

07:09

IF IT IS AN ACQUITTAL,

07:09

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT

07:10

THE MESSAGE IS.

07:11

JUST AS PRESIDENT BIDEN

07:13

DID NOT TALK ABOUT TRUMP

07:16

BY NAME UNTIL HE WAS THE

07:16

PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE, I DON'T

07:18

EXPECT THEM TO SAY ANYTHING

07:19

UNTIL THE CASE IS DONE.

07:20

>> WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN

07:23

AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING

07:24

A LOT OF OUTREACH TO VOTERS OF

07:25

COLOR IN PARTICULAR, BLACK

07:30

VOTERS AND HISPANIC VOTERS, A

07:31

GROUP THAT WENT HEAVILY FOR MR.

07:32

BIDEN AND 2020 -- IN 2020.

07:35

HERE IS PART OF WHAT HE HAD TO

07:36

SAY TO THE GRADUATING CLASS AT

07:38

MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.

07:39

>> WE KNOW BLACK MEN ARE GOING

07:42

TO HELP LEAD US IN THE FUTURE,

07:43

FROM THIS CLASS AND THIS

07:44

UNIVERSITY.

07:45

[APPLAUSE]

07:51

GRADUATES, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE

07:52

UP AGAINST, EXTREMIST FORCES.

07:58

THEY PEDDLE FICTION, A

08:02

CARICATURE.

08:04

BUT BEING A MAN IS ABOUT

08:07

TOUGH TALK.

08:08

ABUSING POWER, BIGOTRY,

08:12

THEIR IDEA IS TOXIC.

08:14

>> HERE IS HOW FORMER PRESIDENT

08:16

TRUMP ADDRESSED A CROWD IN THE

08:16

BRONX LAST NIGHT.

08:18

>> THESE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS

08:21

OF THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR

08:22

COUNTRY -- THE'S BIGGEST IMPACT

08:26

ON THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE IMPACT

08:28

IS AGAINST OUR BLACK POPULATION

08:33

WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS,

08:35

LOSING THEIR HOUSING, LOSING

08:36

EVERYTHING THEY CAN LOSE.

08:37

>> THOSE ARE TWO VERY

08:40

DIFFERENT KINDS OF MESSAGING YET

08:43

TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS WITH SOME

08:43

OF THESE VOTERS OF COLOR.

08:44

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

08:46

>> OK, BUCKLE UP.

08:47

[LAUGHTER]

08:48

THIS INROADS, THIS NOTION

08:51

TRUMP HAS MADE INROADS AS A

08:55

RESULT OF A NEW YORK TIMES POLL

08:56

THAT CAME OUT IN FEBRUARY, WHERE

08:58

SHOCKINGLY IT SAID TRUMP WAS

09:00

GETTING 23% OF BLACK SUPPORT --

09:03

NOW, WHEN I WAS CONFRONTED WITH

09:05

THIS, I WAS LIKE, DO YOU EVEN

09:08

KNOW THE SAMPLE SIZE?

09:10

BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT --

09:11

AS ANY BLACK POLLSTER, THEY ARE

09:14

LIKE, IT'S NOT THERE.

09:15

THE SAMPLE SIZE ON THAT POLL WAS

09:19

119 RESPONDENTS FOR A NATIONAL

09:22

POLL.

09:23

>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.

09:24

>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.

09:25

WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY FOUR

09:26

YEARS.

09:27

WILL BLACK VOTERS SHOW UP?

09:28

THE SUPPORT IS SOFTENING --

09:31

MY GOD, IT FEELS LIKE, TO LOTS

09:33

OF US THAT THESE NARRATIVES ARE

09:36

PERPETUATED SO THAT IF THE

09:37

DEMOCRAT LOSES, NO MATTER WHAT

09:39

RACE, OH, THE AFRICAN AMERICANS

09:43

DID NOT SHOW UP SO IT IS THEIR

09:43

FAULT.

09:44

WITH THE PRESIDENT'S'S SPEECH,

09:47

HE MADE THE MORAL ARGUMENT ABOUT

09:48

DEMOCRACY AND MASCULINITY IN

09:51

EVERYTHING BUT HE ALSO TALKED

09:51

SPECIFICS.

09:54

$16 BILLION INVESTED IN HBCUS.

09:57

CUTTING BLACK CHILD POVERTY.

09:59

WHAT GOT THE BIGGEST APPLAUSE

09:59

LINE WAS STUDENT DEBT RELIEF.

10:04

HE IS COMBINING AN ECONOMIC

10:05

MESSAGE WITH THE MORAL MESSAGE.

10:08

AND KNOWING WHO HIS AUDIENCE IS,

10:13

DONALD TRUMP, THIS IS NOT ABOUT

10:16

GETTING BLACK VOTERS TO VOTE FOR

10:17

HIM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT GETTING

10:19

LATINO VOTERS TO VOTE FOR HIM,

10:21

BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW

10:23

HISPANIC AMERICANS THERE, AT

10:26

THAT RALLY IN THE BRONX, BUT

10:27

THIS IS NOT ABOUT COURTING THEM,

10:31

THIS IS ABOUT A PERMISSION

10:32

STRUCTURE FOR WHITE VOTERS ON

10:35

THE PERIPHERY WHO LOOK AND HEAR

10:36

LANGUAGE LIKE THAT AND THINK, I

10:38

DON'T LIKE THAT, I DON'T LIKE

10:39

HIM, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT

10:40

SOUNDS, BUT WAIT, HE IS IN THE

10:42

SOUTH BRONX, TALKING TO THOSE

10:46

PEOPLE, MAYBE HE'S NOT THAT BAD.

10:47

THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.

10:49

>> DAVID, A FINAL WORD HERE.

10:51

WE'VE GOT A MINUTE LEFT.

10:52

>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS ABOUT

10:53

ONE POLL.

10:54

[LAUGHTER]

10:55

OBAMA WON THE WHITE WORKING

11:00

CLASS BY 76%, BIDEN IS UP BY 6%.

11:02

THE RESULTS IN TEXAS AND

11:07

CALIFORNIA, LATINO VOTERS IN

11:08

2020, THOSE WERE ACTUAL RESULTS.

11:10

THOSE WERE RESULTS SHOWING A

11:10

SHIFT.

11:11

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL

11:17

SHOWING AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN,

11:18

30% FOR TRUMP, THESE ARE A WHOLE

11:18

BUNCH OF BOWLING RESULTS --

11:19

THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE

11:21

RESULTS LEAD TO VOTING RESULTS?

11:24

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO

11:25

DISAFFECTED THAT THEY MAY NOT

11:25

VOTE.

11:26

IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE THAT

11:28

WORKING-CLASS VOTERS ARE VOTING

11:29

MORE LIKE WORKING-CLASS VOTERS

11:31

NO MATTER WHAT OTHER IDENTITIES

11:32

THEY MAY HAVE.

11:34

I THINK THERE'S A GENDER GAP

11:35

WHERE GUYS ARE MOVING.

11:36

HOW BIG THAT IS?

11:38

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE MAY

11:44

REGISTER A PROTEST WITH THE

11:44

POSTER BECAUSE THEY ARE UPSET

11:45

WITH THINGS BUT THAT DOES NOT

11:46

MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE THIS

11:47

WAY.

11:47

I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO --

11:48

I THINK THE TREND TOWARD WORKING

11:50

CLASS PEOPLE VOTING, THAT

11:53

IS A REAL THING THAT IS ACROSS A

11:54

LOT OF ELECTIONS AND A LOT OF

11:55

POLLS.

11:56

>> POLLS OUR A MOMENT IN TIME,

11:59

THEY ARE NOT PREDICTIVE.

12:00

IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH.

12:01

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

12:02