Kendrick Lamar’s Drake Response “Euphoria” Divides The Internet

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1 May 202422:26

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the recent rap feud between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, focusing on Kendrick's track 'Euphoria' and its impact. The conversation delves into the lyrics, where Kendrick addresses Drake's relationship with his son, his Blackness, and his place within the hip-hop community. The participants debate the significance of 'First Person Shooter' and the 'Taylor Made' freestyle, with opinions on who won the latest round of the feud. They also touch upon Drake's cultural disconnect, his use of social media influence, and the broader implications of the feud on the hip-hop genre. The summary acknowledges the complexity of the situation and the differing perspectives on the artists' contributions to hip-hop culture.

Takeaways

  • 🎤 Kendrick Lamar's track 'Euphoria' is a response to perceived slights from Drake, highlighting their differences in approach to hip-hop and life.
  • 🔥 The song touches on personal issues, including Drake's relationship with his son and his public image, indicating the depth of the feud.
  • 📈 There's speculation about an extended 19-minute version of 'Euphoria', suggesting that the conversation between the two artists may not be over.
  • 🤔 The debate over whether 'First Person Shooter' should be considered part of the feud, with some arguing it was the catalyst for the recent exchange.
  • 🎧 Kendrick's mention of not understanding Drake's friendship with Kanye West adds another layer to the complexity of their relationship.
  • 🏆 Kendrick is portrayed as more focused on the integrity of hip-hop and its cultural significance to Black Americans, rather than commercial success.
  • 👑 Drake's approach is criticized for being more about personal gain, chart positions, and changing styles to stay relevant, rather than contributing to the culture.
  • 🚫 The use of Tupac's voice in 'Mistake Boy' is seen as a misstep by Drake, highlighting the risks of his attempts to engage with iconic figures in hip-hop.
  • 📉 Some argue that Drake's 'Push Back' and 'AI Record' ('Mistake Boy') did not adequately counter Kendrick's lyrical prowess, giving Kendrick the upper hand in the feud.
  • 🇨🇦 The cultural gap between Drake's Canadian background and the African American experience in the U.S. is highlighted as a key factor in the differing perspectives of the two artists.
  • 👎 The script suggests that Drake's social media and public relations strategies, such as engaging with influencers, are seen as manipulative by some in the hip-hop community.

Q & A

  • What is the title of the track Kendrick Lamar released in response to Drake?

    -The title of the track Kendrick Lamar released in response to Drake is 'Euphoria'.

  • What is the main topic of the discussion regarding the lyrics of Kendrick Lamar's 'Euphoria'?

    -The main topic of the discussion is the analysis of Kendrick Lamar's lyrics in 'Euphoria', particularly the lines addressing Drake's relationship with his son and the broader implications on their public personas and the hip-hop community.

  • What is the significance of the 'first person shooter' reference in the context of the Kendrick and Drake exchange?

    -The 'first person shooter' reference signifies the starting point of the recent exchange between Kendrick and Drake, where Drake's verse was perceived as a challenge or 'first punch' to Kendrick, setting the stage for the subsequent lyrical battle.

  • Why did the speaker believe that including 'first person shooter' in the debate is important?

    -The speaker believes that 'first person shooter' is important because it was the initial provocation in the public exchange between Drake and Kendrick, and Kendrick continues to address it in 'Euphoria', making it a significant part of their feud.

  • What is the general sentiment towards Drake's response to Kendrick's 'Euphoria'?

    -The general sentiment is mixed, with some people appreciating Drake's response for its creativity and others criticizing it for being an 'overplay of the hand' or 'thirsty' for attention.

  • What is the debate about the timing of Kendrick's response to Drake's 'push-ups'?

    -The debate revolves around whether Kendrick took too long to respond to Drake's 'push-ups', with some arguing that there is no set time limit for responses in a lyrical battle, while others believe prompt responses are expected.

  • How does the speaker describe the impact of Kendrick's 'Euphoria' on the ongoing exchange with Drake?

    -The speaker describes 'Euphoria' as a scathing psychological breakdown of Drake, exposing him and questioning his contributions to the hip-hop community, which is seen as a powerful move in the ongoing exchange.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the importance of being a 'hip-hop purist'?

    -The speaker acknowledges the value of being a 'hip-hop purist', appreciating Kendrick's commitment to the cultural heritage and authenticity of hip-hop, while also recognizing that there is room for different approaches within the genre.

  • Why does the speaker believe Drake's actions, such as buying Tupac's ring, are seen as offensive by some in the hip-hop community?

    -The speaker believes these actions are seen as offensive because they perceive Drake as attempting to claim a stake in the game and manipulate his position without having given back sufficiently to the hip-hop community.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the cultural differences between Canadian and American hip-hop artists?

    -The speaker suggests that there are fundamental cultural differences that influence the perspectives and approaches of Canadian and American hip-hop artists, with a particular emphasis on how racial issues are experienced and addressed.

  • What does the speaker predict about Drake's potential response to Kendrick's 'Euphoria'?

    -The speaker predicts that Drake will respond before the end of the week, suggesting that Drake has something recorded and is eager to maintain control over the narrative without letting Kendrick's song dominate the conversation unchallenged.

Outlines

00:00

🎤 Kendrick Lamar's Response to Drake

The first paragraph discusses the release of Kendrick Lamar's track 'Euphoria', which is a response to Drake. The speaker highlights the complexity and depth of Kendrick's lyrics, which touch on personal matters such as family and address perceived slights from Drake. There's mention of a rumored extended version of the track and speculation about the impact of a song called 'First Person Shooter' on the ongoing feud between the two artists. The paragraph also delves into Kendrick's mindset and his stance on addressing issues before moving forward, as well as the broader implications of their interactions within the hip-hop community.

05:01

🔥 Drake's Controversial Response and Public Perception

The second paragraph focuses on Drake's response to Kendrick's track, particularly the song 'Mistake Boy' which involved a controversial use of Tupac Shakur's voice. The discussion touches on the public's reaction to Drake's tactics, the perceived need for a public argument, and the pressure on Drake to respond effectively to Kendrick's lyrical prowess. The speaker also addresses the criticism of Kendrick for taking time to respond to Drake and argues against the idea that there is a set timeframe for responses in rap feuds. There's a prediction that Drake will respond before the week's end and a reflection on Drake's approach to maintaining control of the narrative.

10:03

💬 The Cultural Divide and Hip-Hop's Purpose

The third paragraph explores the cultural differences between Drake, a Canadian artist, and the American hip-hop scene that Kendrick represents. It contrasts Drake's more commercial approach to music with Kendrick's focus on social commentary and the preservation of hip-hop's cultural heritage. The speaker criticizes Drake for his lack of engagement with black issues and for his attempts to adapt to changing trends, while praising Kendrick for his authenticity and commitment to hip-hop's roots. There's also a discussion about the expectations placed on Drake to deliver a compelling response and the challenges he faces in doing so.

15:03

🏆 Kendrick's Victory in the Latest Round

The fourth paragraph presents opinions on the latest exchange between Kendrick and Drake, with the participants of the discussion largely favoring Kendrick's 'Euphoria' over Drake's 'Push Back'. The title 'Push Back' is mentioned, but it seems there might be some confusion as the actual title of Drake's track is not established within the text. The discussion includes an analysis of the lyrical content and the psychological impact of Kendrick's song, which is seen as exposing Drake's tactics and lack of contribution to the hip-hop community. The speakers agree that Kendrick has won the current round and express anticipation for Drake's potential counter-response.

20:06

🤔 Drake's Cultural Disconnect and Strategic Maneuvers

The final paragraph questions Drake's cultural awareness and his choice to post a clip from the movie '10 Things I Hate About You', which is seen as a potentially tone-deaf move considering the ongoing discourse about his connection to black American culture. It also addresses the broader cultural gap between Canada and America, particularly in terms of racial history and experiences. The speaker criticizes Drake for his perceived manipulation of social media and the hip-hop community, and contrasts this with Kendrick's more genuine and less opportunistic approach to music and cultural engagement.

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Keywords

💡Euphoria

Euphoria is a track by Kendrick Lamar, which is a response to perceived slights from Drake. It is significant in the video's narrative as it represents Kendrick's counterattack in an ongoing feud, showcasing his lyrical prowess and addressing various personal and professional issues. The song is highlighted for its complexity and how it changes styles, keeping the listener engaged throughout its duration.

💡First Person Shooter

First Person Shooter is a song that is referenced in the transcript as a potential catalyst for the recent exchange between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. It is a collaborative piece that is considered by some as the starting point of the feud, although others debate its relevance as part of the 'battle'. The song is used in the video to discuss the origins of the conflict and the competitive nature of their interactions.

💡Drake

Drake is a Canadian rapper and the central figure in the debate, alongside Kendrick Lamar. He is portrayed as having a different approach to hip-hop, focusing more on mainstream appeal and personal success rather than the cultural and social aspects emphasized by Kendrick. The video discusses Drake's strategies in the music industry and his perceived lack of contribution to the hip-hop community.

💡Hip-Hop Purist

A hip-hop purist is someone who adheres to the traditional elements and values of hip-hop culture, often critical of those who deviate from these roots. In the video, Kendrick Lamar is positioned as a hip-hop purist, in contrast to Drake, who is seen as more commercially focused. The term is used to contrast the different artistic and cultural stances of the two rappers.

💡Social Commentary

Social commentary refers to the practice of using art or media to critique or analyze societal issues. Kendrick Lamar is praised in the video for incorporating social commentary into his music, aligning with the traditions of other hip-hop artists who use their platform to address important issues facing the black community.

💡Chart Position

Chart position indicates the ranking of a song or album on music charts, which is often used as a measure of an artist's commercial success. The video discusses the importance of chart position to Drake's career and how it contrasts with Kendrick's focus on the cultural impact of his music.

💡Black American Heritage

Black American heritage refers to the cultural and historical legacy of black Americans, which includes the development and evolution of hip-hop as a form of artistic expression. The video emphasizes Kendrick's commitment to preserving and respecting this heritage, positioning him as a defender of hip-hop's roots.

💡Cultural Differences

Cultural differences denote the variations in customs, beliefs, and practices between different societies or groups. The video highlights the cultural differences between Canada and America, particularly in the context of racial issues and the development of hip-hop, to explain some of the tensions between Drake and Kendrick.

💡Rap Battle

A rap battle is a competition where rappers challenge each other through lyrical confrontation and verbal prowess. The video script discusses an ongoing rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, with the participants releasing tracks in response to each other's lyrics, critiquing their rival's work and stances within the hip-hop community.

💡Tupac

Tupac, also known as 2Pac, was an influential American rapper and actor. In the video, Tupac's legacy is mentioned in the context of Drake's controversial use of his voice and image, which is criticized by Kendrick and others for being disrespectful and an inappropriate claim to hip-hop authenticity.

💡Internet Influence

Internet influence refers to the power that online personalities and social media have over public opinion and cultural trends. The video discusses how both Kendrick and Drake are influenced by and respond to the internet's reactions, with Drake being accused of manipulating online influencers to control the narrative around his music and public image.

Highlights

Kendrick Lamar responds to Drake with a track called 'Euphoria', sparking debate and discussion.

The track includes a line about a famous actor looking paranoid and spiraling, potentially referring to Drake.

Kendrick addresses the rumors of a 19-minute version of the track, though it's unclear if it exists.

Discussion about Kendrick's potential involvement in 'firstperson shooter' and its role in the feud.

Kendrick's lyrics criticize Drake's approach to relationships and fatherhood.

The debate on whether 'firstperson shooter' should be considered part of the feud or just a catalyst.

Kendrick's mention of not understanding Kanye and Drake's friendship, indicating underlying issues.

The expectation that Drake will respond to Kendrick's 'Euphoria' within a week.

Drake's 'mistake boy' and the controversy surrounding the use of Tupac's voice.

Kendrick's strategy of waiting for Taylor Swift's controversy to pass before releasing 'Euphoria'.

The critique that Drake's music lacks the social commentary and depth that Kendrick's offers.

Kendrick's use of DMX's 'I hate' rhetoric to criticize Drake's authenticity in hip-hop.

The cultural differences between Drake's Canadian background and the American hip-hop scene.

Drake's alleged manipulation of social media and the internet personalities to his advantage.

The discussion on the importance of giving back to the hip-hop community and Drake's perceived lack of contribution.

Drake's posting a clip from the movie '10 Things I Hate About You' on IG stories, seen as a sarcastic move.

Final consensus among the discussants that Kendrick won the recent round of the feud with 'Euphoria'.

Transcripts

00:04

all right man yo the internet was on

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fire yesterday when Kendrick Lamar fires

00:09

back at Drake with a track called

00:12

Euphoria now there's a lot of you have

00:14

to listen closely because there's a lot

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but he raps about how a line that stood

00:19

out was famous actor we once knew is

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looking paranoid and now spiraling he

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takes shots at his relationship with his

00:25

son he says I got a son to raise but I

00:27

can see you don't know nothing about

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that and he keeps going now there's a

00:30

rumor that there's a 19-minute version

00:33

of that I don't know if you guys saw

00:34

that I I saw the rumor but I you know

00:37

yeah it's it's Kendrick Lamar it's

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possible it's possible it's possible

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that's a lot to say

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but yeah so a lot of debate some people

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loved it some people hated it here we

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are well you know I think what we need

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to get into and and and Cass I know

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you'll feel me on this right I'm not

00:56

sure if Rosenberg feels this but

01:00

now that we know and I see it seems like

01:03

it was confirmed in this Kendrick song

01:05

Maybe I'm hearing it wrong and maybe

01:07

it's to something else but there was

01:09

rumors around Kendrick being on

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firstperson shooter and he didn't want

01:13

to do it but then he jumps up on like

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that so that would make firsters shooter

01:19

in some ways the Catalyst for this me

01:22

most recent round of exchanges right cuz

01:25

you could even you could even argue that

01:27

on that third verse on first person

01:29

shooter it's kind of like Drake firing

01:32

off to what he knew was coming but we

01:34

didn't know it was coming right right

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and then also remember cuz Kendrick if

01:39

you think back to there was a track on

01:41

Kendrick's album where he mentioned that

01:43

he didn't understand how Kanye and Drake

01:46

were piecing it up like I'm he's like I

01:48

don't understand that right so that kind

01:49

of gives you a view into Kendrick's mind

01:52

state of things like yo if you and I

01:54

have problems we're going to have to

01:55

address these problems before we move on

01:57

with anything else that we do right so

01:59

he addresses that in this song where he

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goes and the thisone that came out

02:03

yesterday before when he goes hey I

02:05

didn't understand Drake reaching out to

02:07

me knowing that me and Drake had some

02:10

issues to

02:11

address right so he did he did Point all

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of that

02:15

out so I I just want to say though I

02:17

don't I I for me personally I don't

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consider I consider firstperson shooter

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to be very important it it's it's like

02:25

the Catalyst of the whole thing I just

02:27

don't consider it part of the battle in

02:29

terms of the the public was consuming it

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as being like so then let's do this then

02:33

so we could we we we'll call firstperson

02:35

shooter and like that verse for the sake

02:37

of the debate right now we'll call that

02:40

kind of like the weighin that's like the

02:42

promo before the fight right they was

02:44

just you know they was teeing up for

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what was the actual battle we'll call

02:48

that is that that's

02:50

fair yeah except I would disagree

02:53

because like that is the first punch

02:55

like that was like that was a a swing in

02:58

public I'm swinging on you when he said

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mother F The Big Three is just big me

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those were the words that put this thing

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in motion as far as everybody knows it

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was a shot it was more like the first

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shot of a war you know what I'm saying

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and and and the and the and the first

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person shooter was Arch Arch Duke

03:17

Ferdinand that was like the beginning

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things that led to the first shot but

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that but that was the first shot there

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was some things in first person shooter

03:25

that we didn't know but I'm saying but

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you have to be you guys you guys you

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guys you guys this is why you're either

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going to take first person shooter and

03:33

like that and put it in or you're going

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to take them both and set it on the side

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and you're going to say that you start

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it like that like that is where this

03:39

thing just started you can't you can't

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you can't you can't start it like that

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because even even Kendrick still he's

03:45

still addressing first person shooter in

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the an

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Euphoria still addressing it right

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because it's an important event that's

03:52

part of their Feud no but the event

03:54

that's part of their Feud I get it but

03:56

it wasn't a bad old song that it had it

03:59

was it was one many Subs that's been

04:01

happening for years well so the reason

04:03

but the reason I say the reason why I

04:05

say they're either in or they're out is

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because both of them are collaborative

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songs first person shooter is a

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collaboration with another artist and

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like that is a collaboration with

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another artist or

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artists right you see what I'm saying

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and the word cast one y'all y'all do

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what y'all going to do I I can't agree

04:25

this started just now with like that I I

04:28

don't understand the logic of the well

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the only reason I say that is because

04:31

then Drake comes out with push-ups then

04:34

he follows up with an AI record so if

04:36

you're scoring it if you're scoring it

04:39

push-ups was a okay battle on let's get

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it on right boom round round one fight

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right right and we're teeing up he comes

04:49

with push-ups right Kendrick playing in

04:53

the corner dancing around the ring maybe

04:56

he hasn't even entered the ring yet who

04:58

knows however you want to you create the

05:00

imaginary boxing scenario but Drake

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comes back with the AI record what was

05:06

did it have a name did the AI song have

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a name yeah it did what was it again

05:10

with the Tupac mistake I think it was

05:12

called mistake boy here we go which

05:14

which you know I thought was very

05:16

creative but I thought it was an

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overplay of the hand and I thought it

05:19

was it was very thirsty like you were

05:21

begging like please come back outside

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please please argue with me in public I

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will say this that tayor made freestyle

05:28

that Rosenberg said in

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there it is what he what he what he did

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say did ring truth Kendrick did wait

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till Taylor was out the way to drop that

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happened well but and and but that

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happened but th this further solidifies

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the mistake for Kendrick I mean for for

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Drake he had to yank it down well yeah

05:47

cuz it was a thing he knew that wasn't

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going to be real well and make good with

05:50

the Tupac estate like it yeah he knew

05:53

that wasn't going to go well for him he

05:55

knew that cuz he didn't even put that up

05:56

on stream he knew it was going to happen

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he wasn't he wasn't going to be able to

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he wouldn't have been able to put it up

06:02

on stre right he knew that was a a

06:04

stupid move either way that whole part

06:08

everything that he said and did on that

06:10

song to me was and the social media

06:14

around it that was Drake pulling up what

06:16

the Rock used to do standing right in

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the middle of the ring and being like

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nah I want you in the middle of the Ring

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get out here and remember on the ad

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liing when he says that the ad libs at

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the end you're going to have to do some

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quintuplet you know blah

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Anand contral Anand I know you're in

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that New York apartment I know but like

06:34

he was taunting I want to go let's go it

06:38

was begging almost for a fight yes well

06:40

yeah cuz Kendrick wouldn't come outside

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and he and and there's been a history of

06:44

him not coming outside I mean listen

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oast I'm just I'm just no I'm not OC

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cast I'm very I'm very in the middle

06:50

today because Kendrick went but do do

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you guys cuz I saw a lot of people

06:55

trying to discredit Kendrick for quote

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unquote taking too long to respond I

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think is BS well I don't really know

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where that I don't the internet tries to

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the internet and social media tries to

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act as if they're the endall Beall and

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deciding factor of how things are

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supposed to play out by the way in every

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way in every Walk of Life in literally

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in every Walk of Life I don't know when

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we decided that someone had a certain

07:21

period of time to respond I I don't know

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yeah I never heard that became a thing

07:26

I've been watching battles play out I've

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been watching battles play out for a

07:30

long time in real life before there was

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the internet there was never a clock

07:35

ticking on response time and if there

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was a clock ticking on response time

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guess what the clock's still ticking on

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Drake's response to push a t so how can

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he be the how can he be the Arbiter of

07:46

when people are supposed to respond when

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you didn't

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respond right well well that was that

07:52

was called you know he just he just

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didn't he didn't answer the Bell that

07:55

was the end of the fight that's what

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that was you took a body shot you went

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oh oh no I'm going to go ahead and sit

08:01

this one down that's battles have to end

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the question is will this one end or is

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Drake going to come back d i i i predict

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I predict the Drake response before the

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end of the week I predict Drake already

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rush I already I I predict he has

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something recorded I predict that Drake

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does not want to let Kendrick control

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the narrative at all and let this cook

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for a minute without a response I'd like

08:26

to maintain that this conversation

08:27

should continue without the Rocky music

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anym more that's what I would like to

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say it was no I mean maybe more music

08:34

but I here's the thing I'll say one

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thing about Drake that I think is

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awesome about this situation in my

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opinion this nerdy old Backpacker who

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loves rap lyrics and styles and doing

08:45

things in pushing boundaries and not

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just name calling I think this is a very

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tough thing to respond to but if Drake

08:52

does it if Drake actually comes back

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with something that even those of us who

08:58

are really bar intent are like yo this

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is I think even a draw goes to

09:03

Drake if he can even compete with what

09:06

he did on Euphoria in a way that's even

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I think that's a win for Drake because

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people don't expect Drake to be able to

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do what Kendrick does so it's a great

09:14

situation for him if he's up for the

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task but if you try to start reaching

09:17

too hard now because Kendrick's song was

09:22

I mean when I saw 6 minutes I thought

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this isn't going to be good I thought 6

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minutes is not going to be good there's

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no way for 6 minutes I'm going to be

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entertained and thralled and it's the

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man hit every one of his own styles that

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he's known for on one song and and every

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time you might start to get a little

09:38

bored changes it to do something else

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and then the voices out sorry he did

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well he didn't keep them out he did some

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voices he just kept them limited his

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voice like when he did the screaming

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voice I was like I hope he doesn't do

09:49

the whole song in screaming voice he

09:51

didn't just give you a little taste of

09:52

that Kendrick well now what I enjoyed

09:54

the most was you know what a lot of

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debate on the Internet is about now

09:58

which is you know

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challenging Drake's uh

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Blackness right because I I always knew

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this was going to come to pass because

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Drake's Canadian he never St he never

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really stands on any black issues right

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he's very middle of the road milk toast

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when it comes to anything all he really

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cares about is his relationships his

10:21

money and his chart position right and

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for those of us that love this hip-hop

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thing and if you're black American you

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know that there's more to this hip-hop

10:29

thing than that and that's what Kendrick

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has always given us that's why we love

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Kendrick cuz it's purposeful it's social

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commentary it's from the ilk of the

10:38

Chuck D's and the ice cubes and the like

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I said earlier the Q-tips and the Andre

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3000s that come with purpose and

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something to say and stand for something

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and that's why it's so poignant when the

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record starts um where he's just talking

10:51

about this famous actor we're starting

10:52

to see him spiral yep right and we've

10:55

talked about that as Drake tries on new

10:57

clothes and new hairstyles and accents

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to try to stay with the times and stay

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relevant with the times and by the way

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this is not a shot at Drake that's what

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Drake has done to get to the stardom

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that he has and the sucess that he has

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and it's worked and by the way we like

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the songs and we like the songs but we

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can't but no but you can't do and yes

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Drake would get offended to hear you

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have the conversation but what you can't

11:19

do is pretend like it's not what you've

11:21

done he he is Drake has chosen a path

11:25

yes the path was never going to be I am

11:28

going with I'm going to make an album

11:31

I'm going to get Alchemist in there I'm

11:32

going to get this one in there I'm going

11:33

get I'm not going to be a hip-hop purist

11:35

I'm not trying to be a hip-hop purist I

11:37

I know that's I've had actual

11:39

conversations with him about that that

11:41

was an I wanted that there are people

11:43

who wanted that from him well because we

11:45

know he loves that cuz he comes from

11:47

that and you come from that so that was

11:49

always the thing right it was always

11:51

like the this was always the little

11:52

things about Drake that would drive me

11:54

nuts you fonte from little brother's my

11:56

hero he's the reason I got in the game

11:58

where's the feature from fonte you know

12:00

what I mean where when is that happening

12:01

when are you doing the thing that we

12:03

know is in there in you and when is that

12:06

album that for the hip-hop heads were

12:08

getting yes I I'm not going to argue

12:10

with younger people I know there are

12:11

30-year-olds listening who consider

12:13

several Drake albums classic but make no

12:16

mistake Kendrick made very specific

12:17

mention you don't have one hip-hop

12:19

classic well because there's not hip-hop

12:21

consensus on it cuz he knows there's not

12:23

consensus and he knows at very least

12:25

Kendrick knows at very least he has one

12:28

to two even if someone like me would

12:30

argue more he knows he has one to two

12:32

well so now the reason and we could go

12:34

back to you know people when Drake

12:36

starts go or I mean when Kendrick stars

12:37

going I hate you for this and I hate you

12:39

for that that's taken from if for just

12:42

so we're clear that's taken from when

12:44

DMX was on The Breakfast Club y right

12:47

when DMX was like and he had a

12:49

reoccurring thing on The Breakfast Club

12:51

where The Breakfast Club would ask him

12:52

yo how you feel about Drake and he would

12:54

be like I hate his haircut I hate this I

12:57

hate that and DM would run that down

13:00

that's what Kendrick is running back on

13:02

just so we're clear a legend a legend in

13:05

the game was consistently like I hate

13:07

your haircut I hate your face I hate I

13:10

hate the way he talks it's is that

13:12

multiple times or one clip was at least

13:15

twice

13:16

it's cuz they asked him he came back and

13:18

he like do you still feel this way he

13:19

was like he doubled down on it God and

13:22

and do Kendrick say the same things that

13:24

DMX said pretty much pretty much pretty

13:27

much but you know that just SOL

13:30

solidifies what Kendrick goes back to

13:32

what Kendrick was saying on a like that

13:33

verse he is more concerned with respect

13:36

and with hiph hop than he is with money

13:39

and

13:40

power right and so you have people

13:42

operating from two different places

13:44

which I think people need to understand

13:46

Kendrick is not operating from a place

13:48

where he's trying to out chart

13:50

position he's not operating from that

13:53

place he's operating from a place of I

13:56

love this hip-hop thing I'm and I love

13:58

the her AG of what hip hop means to

14:01

Black Americans which is why he

14:03

continues to poke Drake about his

14:06

Blackness as a black Canadian who Drake

14:09

on record has always talked about you

14:12

know in Canada we don't have those

14:14

problems we don't have those those

14:16

racial problems we don't you know Canada

14:18

is not like that Canada and by racial

14:20

Canadian I mean that that that part's

14:22

specific that is in there too it's baked

14:24

into it and to turn black conversation

14:27

and to turn the knife Kendrick said and

14:28

you know what all these people that are

14:30

real hip-hop people I'm speaking for

14:32

them cuz H he goes it's not just me it's

14:35

not just me it's the culture right it's

14:36

the culture that hurt now I will say

14:39

though on the flip side I said this a

14:40

couple weeks ago and and I do believe it

14:43

I I believe Kendrick I believe

14:45

everything he said but I also know being

14:47

a purist you still have your moments as

14:50

a purist where you do have some little

14:51

bit of like but it is messed up that I

14:54

can't be the most popular just cuz I'm

14:55

about good stuff 1,000% he's a fallible

14:58

human human being he has feelings and

15:00

those feelings probably are which is why

15:01

I think he let himself go I hate this

15:03

and I hate that and I'm I'm a hater like

15:05

that by the way hip-hop purists guess

15:08

what they

15:09

are haters exactly how many times have

15:13

you seen Rosenberg up here just hating

15:14

on something just because it's

15:16

popular because it is part of it cuz

15:19

there's it's built into the core of

15:20

being a hardcore hip-hop head that

15:22

you've always been frustrated that

15:24

everybody out there wants to eat donuts

15:27

every single day for breakfast and not

15:28

have nutritious meal and why is it

15:30

unpopular to have a nutritious meal

15:32

that's essentially what it comes down to

15:33

cuz Kendrick feeds nutrition and Drake

15:36

feeds it I mean it's it's Henny it's a

15:38

party it's it's Coke it's all there it's

15:41

great and by the way I got I got to

15:43

reiterate this for the sensitive Drake

15:45

fans people like that stuff very popular

15:48

it's very popular it's very very popular

15:51

so easy and so easy as we wrap are you

15:55

guys giving this round to Kendrick

15:59

or to Drake so were just asking about

16:02

push-ups push-ups versus Euphoria is

16:04

what you're asking well cuz the the

16:05

Taylor Made freestyle got yank down so

16:07

does that even get so push-ups so let's

16:09

just go push-ups Euphoria right now I

16:11

think that's the better easier let's

16:12

look at that as the round what do you

16:14

say Casto I said even if you include

16:17

Taylor Made is Kendrick on this one

16:19

still Kendrick on this round Kendrick

16:20

okay Laura how do you feel I feel I feel

16:23

Kendrick cooked Kendrick cooked on this

16:26

one I didn't feel the same about about

16:29

about uh about Drake I thought it was

16:31

good but I was like okay but I think it

16:33

played out blade it played out exactly

16:36

how I thought the Drake record and the

16:38

words of Ebro it was cool it was cool it

16:41

had really good stuff in there it was

16:43

funny he he talked his ish and I dug it

16:46

he dared Kendrick to come out lyrical

16:49

miracle I thought Kendrick not only

16:51

brought the lyrical Miracle but it was

16:53

entertaining and pointed and awesome and

16:56

I'm not ruling Drake out calm down Drake

16:59

stands but I am giving this round

17:00

soundly to Kendrick I am it's it's not a

17:02

108 round but it is a 10-9 round he won

17:05

the round listen this is Kendrick this

17:08

this this and I think he he may have

17:10

gone back and listening listened to what

17:12

Nas did on

17:14

Ethan when what you think he bro I think

17:17

Kendrick won this round because what he

17:18

did was a scathing psychological

17:21

breakdown of an individual that is at

17:24

the height of their game and really is

17:26

and laid it bare like the emperor has no

17:29

cloes type of

17:30

joint you know what I mean where it's

17:32

like Drake is fully exposed and and the

17:36

reason everyone is coming for

17:39

Drake right now is what Kendrick is

17:42

saying in this

17:44

song You've manipulated and used

17:47

everyone for your own

17:50

gain but what have you actually given

17:53

back to the game itself

17:58

and then you have the NM to go buy pac's

18:01

ring and use pac's

18:04

voice and act like because you've had

18:07

chart position and hits that you can

18:10

stake that claim in the game that's

18:16

offensive shie cure how you well no shny

18:18

cure don't even get a vote you're a

18:20

drake hater you don't get you

18:23

get you don't even get a vote you

18:27

might but now I mean clear kendri

18:29

Kendrick definitely dissected in this

18:31

one and I'm on always on the side of the

18:34

purist so it's a unanimous decision

18:37

clearly all the get what Drake comes

18:40

with let's see we're not counting him

18:42

out yet but let's see what Drake comes

18:44

with any well oh manake stands have had

18:46

it get in the booth get off the memes

18:49

listen the internet will never sway my

18:51

opinion guys I hate to break it to you

18:53

I'm not I'm not I'm not of your eror be

18:55

it's never going to sway and by the way

18:57

and and and I think it should be said

18:59

I'm going say it again I am enjoying

19:02

both

19:03

Styles both Styles I'm enjoying both

19:07

presentations and y'all know y'all know

19:10

it was an international incident when I

19:11

said it last time Drake has never said

19:14

stood for anything ever so when you're

19:18

up against somebody whose whole career

19:20

is about standing for something and the

19:24

reason you're having issues right now is

19:26

because you've only taken from the game

19:29

you haven't given back enough and the

19:31

community feels like that you're going

19:33

to have a problem with the guy that the

19:35

community feels has literally made their

19:38

career about making sure the black

19:40

American heritage of Hip Hop is taken

19:43

care of you're going to have a problem

19:46

but if you make sure you just look at

19:48

all the same dumb internet personalities

19:50

who don't care about any of that and

19:52

just care about what's hot but they're

19:53

the manip they're also being manipulated

19:56

and that's what Kendrick's talking about

19:58

because Drake shows up in their DMS

20:00

Drake gives them an exclusive Drake

20:03

invites them to a party corre Drake

20:05

likes their Drake knows if I like so and

20:08

so's IG post they're going to be on my

20:10

team that is a fact he's manipulating

20:14

that whole thing Kendrick doesn't play

20:16

that game nope you just have to either

20:18

like his music or n well I will can I

20:20

ask you one question though before we

20:21

close this out one question so last

20:23

night uh it was said Louis sent it to

20:25

our group chat there was that moment

20:27

where Drake went on IG stories and

20:30

posted a clip from apparently from the

20:32

movie 10 Things I Hate About You that's

20:34

right right yeah I don't know the movie

20:36

so my question

20:38

was was that intentionally the whitest

20:41

thing ever to post sarcastically because

20:44

you're sure it has to be because

20:47

otherwise I was like literally that's

20:48

exactly what Kendrick was I don't even

20:50

this is so white I don't even know what

20:51

it is I had to ask my wife what this was

20:53

I said I don't know what so so since

20:54

we're on it and and we're back to it um

20:58

that even even when Drake text his mom

21:00

and it was like Rick Ross is being

21:02

racist black folks that know was like yo

21:05

my man why you talking to your white Mom

21:07

calling another black man racist you

21:09

don't even know what racism is what are

21:12

you talking about and that's how out of

21:15

touch with black American this Drake can

21:17

be cuz there's black Americans who don't

21:20

play with that like that's not even

21:21

something like what are you talking

21:22

about that's not even what racism is did

21:24

he use the word racist in the thing he

21:26

did yes

21:30

so that's and and that's problematic for

21:32

people and that's because you're out of

21:34

there there are fundamental cultural

21:36

differences between Canada and America

21:39

that is also a thing that exist yes

21:42

yeah but but also and I for my Canadian

21:46

friends just cuz y'all didn't have Jim

21:48

Crow it doesn't mean y'all wasn't up

21:49

there segregating black folks and

21:51

killing Native Americans by the by the

21:53

droves so knock it off

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