Candace Owens On WARPATH After Leaked Emails Reveal Firing

there's been some updates um on the

firing or I guess departure of Candace

Owens uh Ben Shapiro and Candace

allegedly apparently agreed not to speak

about it and yet uh in some recent

interviews Shapiro has been shedding

some light into his thinking as to why

it was not hypocritical to fire or at

least have Candace Owens depart his

organization the daily wire here's what

he had to say in an interview with Dave

ruin the difference between a publisher

like the daily wire and a platform like

locals is obviously that a platform

should have a very broad range of speech

that it allows including speech that

maybe even the creators don't believe is

inside what they would consider to be

the Overton window it's a very different

thing then direct subsidization of

particular opinions so the daily wire

would not have a host would not pay a

host who was staunchly pro-abortion it

have no obligation to Bay a host who is

staunchly pro-abortion and so when it

comes to the host on The Daily wire

obviously everyone was able to say what

they want nobody ever comes to me and

says you can't say x nobody ever says

that to Wal no one ever said that to C

do but the reality is that there is an

Overton window at the daily wire

obviously there was a non- meeting of

the minds that's pretty much all I can

say on this uh and you know a lot of

this has happened publicly uh but you

know to the extent that that the daily

wire is in fact not a publisher it is a

PL that is in fact not a platform it is

a publisher that means that there is no

moral obligation for the daily and

there's no free speech problem with the

daily wir saying we don't wish to pay a

particular host or that host saying I

don't wish to work here anymore because

again there's a parting of the ways that

I'm that you know is not really open for

discussion at this point this week NBC

News deciding that ra McDaniel was too

much for them R McDaniel can't work in

NBC News the sacred Halls of NBC News

must not be sullied by the former head

of the RNC Jens sakei however can have a

show on MSNBC despite being the press

secretary for the White House 5 seconds

ago right the the the right's response

to that is I think correct to say you

guys have shut the Overton window too

tight but I think some elements of the

right have basically said there is no

Overton window the Overton window should

be completely exploded so the defense

that he just gave there is the exact

defense of Facebook Twitter and Google

Crystal every single time that they take

somebody down we are not a platform or

we are a publisher and Publishers get to

make editorial decisions and yet when it

was flipped around that we commonly

understand that that is a form of

censorship it is obviously a term which

is difficult to update to our modern

laws but we can at least

understand that there are speech within

Overton window of which Shapiro has long

advocated include him but now is saying

and she can't and shant include others

it seems that with Candice you know the

other thing is hypocritical too when he

was talking about abortion is they hired

her with full well knowledge of who she

was how she is and of her hero her

willingness to say and whatever they

want and they were happy with it for

everything except whenever it came

towards Israel and that's the other

thing too is I believe believe Jeremy

boring who is the CEO of the

organization the daily wire had said for

example he would never hire anybody um

who said that the quote there was a

genocide that was happening in Gaza so

it's like you have two lines at the at

the wire you have abortion I mean I that

one's understandable to me given the

history of the organization but now it's

Israel and it's like oh hold on a sec I

thought this was an organization that

covered American politics and was

talking about American Free Speech but

here is just a little bit too much for

Mr for Mr Shapiro well how I love how

suddenly we're getting very nuanced

we're getting very parsey about this uh

whole Free Speech conversation and the

comments about Ron MCD I mean he's

really got to work to try to justify

that one because it's very plain to see

all right well if you know you think

it's Justified to fire Candace because

her views fall outside of your quote

unquote Overton window then don't

complain when NBC News fires Ron

McDaniel don't complain when a backlash

over a Tom Cotton upad in the New York

Times they're a publisher exactly

perhaps this was outside of their

Overton window so it shouldn't be

published don't complain I mean it's

just so clear that the moment it came to

this issue that very core for him

suddenly everything he had said in the

past is gone and he's got to find 15

different ways to try to justify it

Nuance it craft this response to try to

hide the fact that he has done a 180

when it comes to free speech and just to

pick up on what you were saying about

they knew who Candace was she they were

fine and and this question also over

whether it was you know she was fired

for genuinely anti-semitic comments

which I think some of her comments you

can say were fall in the category of

genuinely anti-semitic in my personal

opinion or whether it was over her

position with regards to Israel and I

think it's very clear because prior to

getting hired by the daily wire she had

said that thing about if Hitler just

wanted to make Germany great and have

things run well okay fine that was no

problem for the daily wire she had

defended Kanye even he's out there

literally saying I love Hitler that was

fine no problem but the minute that she

has a critique of Israel and is willing

to say we are watching a genocide unfold

no that's the line and there was there

were a couple other things that were

really interesting as well because Sager

he said that thing oh we didn't tell

anybody they can't they can't we didn't

never told Canada she can't say anything

yeah well most of these news

organizations MSNBC CNN Fox News they're

not overtly telling their staff you

can't say this about Trump or you must

say this about Trump but everybody knows

what that quote unquote Overton window

is Candace knew where the Overton window

was she just wasn't willing to abide by

those rules and strictures and so just

like at CNN with Mark Lamont Hill or

MSNBC with medy Hassan when they went

outside of where they knew the lines

were they're gone so you're just like

them that's the bottom line you're just

like them don't pretend like you're yeah

you're you exactly and that's the other

thing is you need to understand that the

what if you are going to position

yourself and make million not even

Millions hundreds of millions of dollars

as a free speech organization whose

entire Purpose By the way is to blow up

the Overton window and you know what in

a certain sense part of what I despise

the most about that was he's like well

we need to have some Overton window I'm

like oh now we need to have some Overton

window um I'm like by the way I don't

even believe in it I think people should

be able to say anything even the

craziest because in general that's

how a lot of Truth can emerge you really

have no idea in the actual moment and I

think that's actually very good for

society but now all of a sudden he does

believe in uh you know where things

should be and it's like well you don't

see the hypocrisy on how that's used

against you on transgenderism or any

race and all these other issues that

these guys have made whole career years

you know speaking out against here they

are lock step with Jonathan greenblat

and all of them over at the ADL who they

have criticized a million times so in

the words of Glenn green weld that is

what makes me absolutely sick there's

also some uh uh evidence too about how

this all went down behind the scenes

let's go and put this up there on the

screen this account censored men don't

know who this gentleman or who this

woman is but uh been doing some great

work they have actually put out this was

the email sent to employees at the daily

wire informing them of the impromptu

Town Hall that br Jeremy boring had

organized employees were told not to

bring their cell phones to the meeting

independent contractors would not be

allowed to attend at the Town Hall daily

wire leadership attempted to smear Owens

as an anti-semite in front of their

employees to justify their hiring and

you can see the evidence of that town

hall which is very clearly increased uh

included there for the emails that were

sent to their entire staff let's go to

the next part here please because you

can see too Candace is saying quote Ben

we agreed not to talk about this but you

are very much going on a public right

now pretending not to talk about it

while you were very much talking about

it would you like me to do the same part

of the reason Crystal at Candace is so

dangerous is that her husband is a son

of a billionaire and so uh let's just

say she is not hurting for cash and she

truly is she has if there is such a

thing as fbu money she's got it so good

for her I hope she continues yeah I mean

it's it's a very revealing situation and

and part of why is so important is

because there's always been this

incredible BL spot on the right even at

the peak of their supposed Free Speech

commitment when it comes to Israel and

Palestine and the number of people this

is like the number one issue that will

get you cancelled careers ruined and you

have this whole like war path against

students at Harvard led by Bill Amman to

try to destroy their career prospects

for the entire rest of their lives for

participating in protests and doing

rally chants that he found to be

objectionable like if you actually

consistently care about Free Speech you

have to care about Free Speech when it

comes to this issue no matter what you

think about Israel and Gaza and Hamas

and what's happening right now because

it is about that principle of free

speech and so it is you know it's sort

of it's sort of perfect that it comes

down to Candace stepping out on the line

on a line when it comes to Israel that

that's what it comes down to and not

just Ben Shapiro but so many others on

the right including Dave ruin really

showing their ass when it comes to their

actual commitment to free speech which

is only comes into play when it is

people in speech that they find to be

ideologically convenient for themselves

and you know I actually want to uh

recall the comments that Rogan made in

the context of Candace getting fired and

you know you you brought up abortion Ben

said listen you know we would never hire

someone who's Pro abortion here okay

fair enough that is a a moral position a

philosophical moral position on a

political Spectrum Rogan's point was

basically you know whether you want to

use the term genocide or not you have to

be able to deal with the facts of what

is happening here which are not that's

not an opinion right that's facts in

reality so I would even put this issue

outside of you know a sort of like

political sphere of debate because

clearly you aren't even at the the daily

wire you aren't even allowed to really

discuss the fact of what's unfolding

you're certainly not allowed to call it

a genocide when you have you know you

special rapur you have the icj saying

it's plausible you have numerous human

rights organizations saying this so if

if you can't even speak to the just the

facts and reality of what's Happening

then you can't really call yourself a

news organization and no I don't think

that that's an appropriate quote unquote

Overton window to have where you as a

condition of working there you have to

deny reality that's unfolding in front

of you that's that's insane and like I

said you can't call yourself a newed

organization there you're just a

propaganda outlet and that's that yeah

and that's fine you know be honest about

that but don't be raising hundreds of or

you know asking people Shilling asking

for hundreds of millions of dollars and

buying Jeremy's razors and chocolates

and all the other things that these

people have done to position themselves

is outside of this spefic specifically

the job of trying to crack the so-called

mainstream and to expand the Overton

window correctly in my opinion include

some of the viewpoints that they have

over there and then experience and

partake in the exact same censorship

tactics that they did whenever you were

speaking out so I think it's really

really disgusting I also refer people to

Glenn Greenwell's commentary on the

subject it was absolutely fantastic hey

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