The Lost Movie That Still Got Made: Foodfight!
Summary
TLDRThe story of 'Food Fight', once envisioned as the next big animated film, is a tale of ambition, setbacks, and ultimate disappointment. Conceived by Larry Kasanov and Threshold Entertainment, the film aspired to be a Toy Story-like spectacle set in a supermarket with extensive product placement. However, plagued by production issues, including the theft of work hard drives and a shift from 3D animation to motion capture, the film's quality suffered. Further complicated by financial troubles and a lack of directorial expertise, 'Food Fight' was eventually auctioned off and released to poor critical reception and commercial success, despite its initial promise and a star-studded voice cast. The film's turbulent journey reflects the challenges of balancing creative vision with business realities.
Takeaways
- 🎬 The story revolves around the production of 'Food Fight', considered one of the worst films ever made.
- 🥇 Florence Larry Kassanov founded Threshold Entertainment in 1993, known for producing 'Mortal Kombat' and its sequel.
- 🚀 The idea for 'Food Fight' was to create a movie akin to 'Toy Story' set in a supermarket with extensive product placement.
- 🌐 The film was intended to be a multimedia franchise with toys, video games, a live show, branded food, and a web series.
- 💸 Press releases for 'Food Fight' claimed it would be the most complex digitally animated feature, incorporating thousands of products.
- 🖥️ Threshold had experience in 3D animation, but the technology was challenging at the time, leading to dated visuals in the trailer.
- 😔 The production faced controversy for its extensive product placement, with critics arguing it contributed to health issues like obesity and diabetes.
- 💻 In 2002, the hard drives containing all the work for 'Food Fight' were stolen, leading to speculation of industrial espionage or an inside job.
- 📉 The film's production was halted and later resumed with a new direction, switching from squash and stretch animations to motion capture.
- 🎥 Inexperience in direction and animation technology led to a disjointed production process and numerous delays.
- 🏦 In 2011, 'Food Fight' was auctioned off after Threshold defaulted on their loans, and the insurance company had it completed for immediate release.
- 📉 The final product was poorly received, with low box office returns and abysmal ratings, and the promised brand icons were notably absent or mocked in the film.
Q & A
What was the original vision for the movie Food Fight?
-The original vision for Food Fight was to create a movie similar to Toy Story, but set in a supermarket, filled with as many real-world brands as possible, using a mix of 3D animation and product placement to extreme levels.
Who founded Threshold Entertainment, the company behind Food Fight?
-Threshold Entertainment was founded by Florence Larry Kassanov in 1993.
What were some of the notable projects Threshold Entertainment worked on before Food Fight?
-Threshold Entertainment was known for producing the 1995 Mortal Kombat movie and its sequel, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, as well as working on 3D animation for Hershey's Really Big 3D Show and visual effects for movies like I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, Ace Ventura Pet Detective, and Dogma.
What was the significance of the press release Threshold Entertainment distributed in mid-2001?
-The press release in mid-2001 was significant because it detailed the ambitious plans for Food Fight, including claims that it would be the most complex digitally animated feature film ever attempted and would incorporate thousands of products and character icons from the grocery store. It also announced the company's intention to create a multimedia franchise with toys, video games, a live show, their own brand of food, and a 22-episode web series.
What was the controversy surrounding Food Fight's production?
-The controversy centered around the excessive product placement and commercialization in the movie, which critics argued raised the commercial assault on children to a new level of brazenness, especially considering the rising levels of childhood obesity and type 2 diabetes at the time.
What happened to the hard drives containing the work for Food Fight in 2002?
-The hard drives containing all the work for Food Fight were stolen, which was referred to as industrial espionage. The theft led the team to start production from scratch.
What were some theories regarding the theft of the original copy of Food Fight?
-Theories include a company whose products were used trying to get out of their contract upon seeing the movie's quality, a rival company like Pixar, Dreamworks, or Disney stealing the movie, an inside job by someone on the production team, and the possibility that the theft was fabricated by Threshold to save face or cover up a lawsuit or money laundering scheme.
How did the production of Food Fight change after the theft?
-After the theft, production resumed in 2004 with a change in direction. The film's style was shifted from squash and stretch animations to a more live-action look using motion capture, which resulted in a different visual and storytelling approach.
What were some of the issues that arose during the production of Food Fight after the change in direction?
-Issues included the limitations of the motion capture technology used, which resulted in stiff facial animations, and creative disagreements between Larry Kassanov and the animators. Kassanov's inexperience as a director and his desire for adult jokes in the movie also led to conflicts with the brands involved.
What was the final outcome of Food Fight after years in development?
-Food Fight was eventually auctioned off in 2011 to British company Boulevard Entertainment. The movie was completed quickly and cheaply for immediate release, and it was not well-received by critics or audiences, with very low box office earnings against a high production budget.
How did the failure of Food Fight impact Threshold Entertainment and Larry Kassanov?
-Threshold Entertainment tried to distance themselves from the movie and did not list it on their website. Larry Kassanov, however, continued to work in the industry, directing a documentary on mindfulness and producing a reboot of the Mortal Kombat series and a trilogy based on the video game Tetris.
What was the final nail in the coffin for Food Fight?
-The final nail in the coffin was Threshold's financial troubles, which led to the company defaulting on their loans and the movie being auctioned off in 2011 to British company Boulevard Entertainment.
Outlines
🎬 The Genesis and Aspirations of Food Fight
This paragraph introduces the story behind the infamous 'Food Fight' movie, which has been widely regarded as one of the worst films of all time. It delves into the origins of Threshold Entertainment, founded by Florence Larry Kassanov in 1993, and their ambition to create a multimedia franchise akin to 'Toy Story' but set in a supermarket. The vision was to incorporate numerous real-world brands into their animated world. Despite having experience in 3D animation and visual effects, Threshold faced skepticism and criticism over their claims about the film's complexity and product placement. The paragraph also highlights the production challenges and the theft of the hard drives containing the movie's work in 2002, which led to a halt in production.
🔍 The Mystery of the Stolen Production and Theories
This paragraph explores the baffling case of the stolen hard drives containing 'Food Fight's' production work. Various theories are presented to explain the motive behind this crime, ranging from disgruntled companies to potential inside jobs. The discussion also touches on the possibility of the movie being part of a money laundering scheme due to its high production cost compared to the final product. The paragraph details the challenges faced by Threshold in resuming production in 2004, including a shift in animation style and the involvement of motion capture technology. It also highlights the distribution struggles and the eventual delay of the film's release.
🍿 The Downfall and Legacy of Food Fight
The final paragraph discusses the culmination of 'Food Fight's' troubled production and its eventual release. After years of development and setbacks, the movie was auctioned off in 2011 and quickly released by the insurance company to recoup their investment. The film's reception was overwhelmingly negative, with poor box office returns and scathing reviews. The paragraph also reflects on the absence of the promised brand icons in the final film and the impact on the careers of those involved. It concludes with a look at Threshold Entertainment's future projects and the potential for redemption, despite the failure of 'Food Fight'.
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Keywords
💡Lost Media
💡Threshold Entertainment
💡Product Placement
💡Cross-Promotion
💡Industrial Espionage
💡Money Laundering
💡Motion Capture
💡Adult Jokes
💡Insurance Money
💡Auction
💡Brand Icons
Highlights
The story of 'Food Fight', considered one of the worst films of all time, and its journey from concept to production.
Florence Larry Kassanov founded Threshold Entertainment in 1993, known for producing the 'Mortal Kombat' movie and its sequel.
The idea for 'Food Fight' came from Kassanov and producer Joshua Wexler, envisioning a movie like 'Toy Story' set in a supermarket.
Threshold had experience in 3D animation, having worked on projects like Hershey's Really Big 3D Show and visual effects for movies.
The press release in mid-2001 claimed 'Food Fight' would be the most complex digitally animated feature film ever attempted.
The film was intended to be a multimedia franchise, including toys, video games, a live show, branded food, and a web series.
The production faced controversy over its extensive use of product placement and its impact on children.
The original hard drives containing all the work for 'Food Fight' were stolen in late 2002, leading to a complete restart of production.
Theories suggest the theft could have been an inside job or that the movie was part of a money laundering scheme.
After the theft, production resumed in 2004 with a new direction, switching from 3D animation to motion capture.
Inexperience in directing and issues with the animation technology led to delays and a pushback of the release date.
The final release of 'Food Fight' in 2012 was met with poor reception and low box office returns compared to its high budget.
The promised 1000 brand icons in the film were not present, and some characters from the first trailer were either reduced or removed.
Threshold Entertainment and Larry Kassanov continued their work in the industry, moving on to theme park rides and other projects.
The case of the stolen original copy of 'Food Fight' remains unsolved, and the company seems to have moved on from the incident.
The story of 'Food Fight' serves as an example of the potential risks and challenges in the film industry, especially when prioritizing profit over content quality.
Despite the failure of 'Food Fight', the company and individuals involved have continued to work on successful projects in the entertainment industry.
Threshold Entertainment is planning a return to feature films with a 'Tetris' trilogy and a 'Mortal Kombat' reboot, with Kassanov as executive producer.
The 'Food Fight' story illustrates the importance of a visionary team and a focus on content quality in the success of animated films.
Transcripts
oh hi there this lost movie has been
reviewed all over the internet and is
considered one of the worst films of all
time
but if it's been released how can it be
lost media we'll sit back while we
explore the humble beginnings of a
production company
and one man's vision for the next big
thing that led to the death and rebirth
of the worst animated film
ever this is the story of the lost movie
that still got made
this is the story of food fight here
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the history of food fight revolves
around one man florence
larry kassanov who in 1993 founded the
company threshold entertainment
threshold were best known in the 90s for
producing the 1995 mortal kombat movie
and its universally panned sequel
moral combat annihilation you're alive
too bad
you will die the idea for a food fight
came from kasanov
and threshold producer joshua wexler
casanov and wexler envisioned a movie
like toy story but set in a supermarket
and taking toy story's minor product
placement such as mr potato head and
slinky dog to the extreme by filling
their fictional grocery store
with as many real world brands as
possible
i'll take it all just send a bill
threshold as a company did have small
scale experience in 3d animation
having worked on hershey's really big 3d
show for hershey's chocolate world
and visual effects for numerous movies
such as i still know what you did last
summer
aceventura pet detective and dogma with
this kind of 3d animation experience
making a 3d animated film wasn't out of
the rim of possibility
in mid 2001 threshold distributed a
press release
detailing the film for the first time
this release would make some impressive
claims
calling the movie the most complex
digitally animated feature film ever
attempted
that will incorporate thousands of
products and character icons from the
grocery store and that brands will be
altered in order to customize the film
for a worldwide audience
but perhaps the most interesting part of
the press release shows that food fight
was meant to be a multimedia franchise
there were going to be food fight toys
video games a live show
their own brand of food and most
impressively a 22 episode web series
called
food fight the adventures of dex
detective that was scheduled to be
released eight months before the film
but with casanov being the benevolent
ruler he is would allow participating
brands to have the opportunity
to pay threshold to create a web series
featuring their icons
the press release also announced their
association with korean investment
company natural image who combined with
equity financing would fund the movie's
production at around 50 million dollars
the production initially gained minor
controversy over its claims that the
movie would contain
thousands of products gary ruskin of
commercial alert remarked
it raises the commercial assault on
children to a new level of brazenness
some people will stoop to any level to
make a buck and sadly food fight is an
example
it looks like a two hour parade of junk
food at a time when we have skyrocketing
levels of childhood obesity and type 2
diabetes
but larry kassanov had already prepared
for this going on to boast that the
flick is entirely product placement free
in an interview with kid scree no one
paid us to be in this movie
and we didn't pay anyone to be in this
movie it's not a big commercial
in later interviews this model will be
referred to as cross promotion rather
than product placement
the following year threshold released
food fight's first trailer giving us our
first look at the movie
and expected a full release within the
next year or so and even by 2000
standards the trailer didn't look too
good
being dated when compared to other
computer animated movies at the time
like shrek ice age or finding nemo we
could tell the movie was going to use
squash and stretch animations the
merchant looney tunes
but using 3d computer animation
something that was difficult at the time
but none of this stopped casanov from
toting the film as the next big thing
telling animation magazine do we believe
our next movie food fight is gonna be a
huge hit
of course we do this is the most complex
digitally animated film ever undertaken
with thousands of different characters
and hundreds of sets we're never gonna
be the next pixar being four higher
producers with some other shop
you heard right larry thought threshold
had the potential to be the next pixar
but even though the movie didn't look
great i can't blame casanov for being
excited
something that's often overlooked when
talking about food fight is it's
absolutely visionary casting
if the movie was released in 2003 or
2004 as expected
it would have featured charlie sheen
right on the heels of his debut on two
and a half men
a role she'd become the highest paid
actor in television for
a pre-desperate housewives eva longoria
hillary duff just after lizzie mcguire
what would have been wayne brady's
feature film debut a pre-mean girl's
daniel franzisi
and chris cattan right after his tenure
on snl
but the film's production came to a
standstill in late 2002
when the hard drives contained all the
work for the movie were stolen
cast off would refer to the crime as
industrial espionage
and would tell the new york times it was
an incredibly complex crime
they got into the cold room a room
within a room within a room
kassanov also claimed the secret service
was involved in the investigation for
the stolen movie
the company was insured for the loss but
the thieves stole almost everything
leading the team to start production
from scratch today the mystery of who
stole the film is unsolved
but we do have some theories
the only case that ever really mattered
and i couldn't solve it
let's start with who would have had the
motivation to steal the movie maybe one
of the companies whose products were
used could have seen how bad the movie
was going to turn out and try to get out
their contract
they couldn't so they resorted to theft
maybe a rival company like pixar
dreamworks or even disney could have
stole the movie
this is pretty silly because all these
companies already had better looking
movies years prior
and clearly didn't have anything to
worry about but to me
the most likely thief will be someone on
the inside kasanov said the crime was
extremely complex
meaning that someone on the inside
someone who had intimate knowledge of
the facility
would have a much easier time stealing
the movie an animator a producer
or even larry himself would all have
motivation as a movie
this bad could potentially damage a
career a common theory passed around
is that the movie was never stolen that
the whole thing was fabricated
threshold were either sued over the
movie or was scrapped and they wanted to
save face
i personally cannot find the police
report for the incident anywhere
and if anyone can please tweet it at me
at lost mediamike
the last and most prevalent theory is
that the movie was part of a money
laundering scheme
the main evidence for this is just how
much the movie cost an estimated 45 to
65 million dollars
versus the finished product compare this
to toy story which cost 30 million
the lego movie which cost 60 to 65
million sausage party at 19 million
or even shrek which was released in 2001
with a 60 million dollar budget
that still holds up today more evidence
that something criminal behind the
scenes was going on
is the insurance money a 2004 new york
times article states the film was
insured and insurance money was
collected
though this doesn't prove anything
criminal it shows that money could have
been made over the film's loss
let's strawberry jam out of here even
though the team had lost
years of work threshold decided to
continue and production on food fight
resumed in 2004 but casanov wanted to
change the film's direction
scrapping the squash and stretch style
in favor of making the movie more like a
live action film through the use of
motion capture
retakes and spontaneity this new
approach could not be
any more different than squash and
stretch and as a result casanov and the
animators were speaking two different
languages
motion capture was split between two
companies house of moves
and image metrics according to a 2013
new york times article
image metrics had a limitation
performers had to stare straight ahead
and keep still
the result was subdued with eyes
appearing vacant or looking in the wrong
direction
which if you look at early films of
image metrics such as meet dave the
facial animation is very stiff
but this at least seems to be somewhat
intentional for meet dave this explains
why the first trailer of food fight has
better looking eyes than the lifeless
final release
for this new take on the movie lionsgate
was set to distribute the film with
financing company story arc providing 20
million dollars in funding
the movie was set to have a quick
turnaround scheduled for a 2005 release
at this point castanov's inexperience as
a director began to show
former threshold animators claimed that
casanov would say things like
make it more awesome or make it 30
better and didn't understand
any of the animation technology or its
limitations
according to kenneth wydtrack a layout
artist on the project
his approach because he had gotten the
money for it and no one could say no to
him was very idiosyncratic
you didn't know from day to day what
would occur would there be a review
would he suddenly want to change the
whole thing kasanov also wanted adult
jokes in the movie that some of the
brands found offensive
for example mckee foods wouldn't allow
daredevil dan to cat call little debbie
and one of the snack mascots was to have
a case of peanut envy
the cat calling seems to have made it
into the final film but lil debbie was
replaced with a generic character
the film was delayed again pushed back
to 2006
and that year the food fight website
began to give us more details
included was a description of six
characters of those six characters where
harry hold
played by greg elias and polar penguin
played by chris kattan
whose inclusion on this list imply they
were meant for a bigger role in the
final film
after missing their 2006 release the
website was updated
listing the release for spring 2007 then
fall 2007 and by 2008 the website just
directs you to the threshold website
with no release date in sight is that
the
enticing scent of rich creamy chocolate
are you chocolate are you made of
chocolate really
after years in development the final
nail in the coffin came in 2011
after threshold defaulted on their loans
and on monday
september 26 2011 at 10 am
in the law offices of gladstone michael
weinsberg wilmer and salone
in marina del rey california with an
opening bid of 2.5 million dollars
the movie food fight was auctioned off
to british company boulevard
entertainment
once the movie was sold the investors at
story arc enacted the clause through
their insurance agency
fireman's fund insurance company that
led fireman's fund to step in and have
the movie completed as quickly and as
cheaply as possible for immediate
release
the insurance company is even listed in
the right section when buying the movie
on the google play store
also don't buy the movie on the google
play store it's been free on youtube for
years
in a 2013 interview late stage animator
ken bailey said at this point in
development
the film was already ruined they were
just trying to salvage what they could
who was your favorite character the
doggy
and the squirrel dog and the squirrel
were her favorite so yeah
in 2012 the movie was quietly released
with a limited theatrical run in the uk
and will be released on dvd soon after
the film's total gross is debatable with
the numbers.com saying around 73
thousand dollars were made
and box office mojo saying around 120
000
were made all against a 65 million
dollar budget
and as you might have guessed the movie
was not received well from critics
with a 1.5 on imdb a 1.6 on the bomb
report
a 10 review on rotten tomatoes which is
pretty generous
and the movie has since been roasted all
over youtube
frankly my dear i don't give a spam
with the release of the film it became
apparent that the 1000 brand icons
promised by kasanov were not present
in the film with at least 20 characters
and around
20 non-character products that were
confirmed or shown in the first trailer
gone a number of these missing mascots
are seemingly mocked throughout the film
in mean-spirited ways
as if they didn't make the right choice
by leaving the production over the years
various food fight merchandise has been
released with the occasional book being
found at a thrift shop a food fight
plush for sale on ebay or in a movie
theater claw machine
and sometimes you can still find a
physical copy of the movie for sale on
store shelves
threshold has since tried their best to
forget about the movie not even listing
it on their website
and not copyright claiming the movie
when it's uploaded in its entirety to
youtube
to this day the stolen original copy of
food fight has never surfaced
and the case has gone cold but honestly
i don't think they're looking too hard
anymore
but how did you get in and out of the
store
now i might get some flack for this but
i think the idea for food fight
is genius from a business perspective
the movie had so much potential
and based on the continued success of
threshold entertainment
larry kassanov is clearly a good
businessman who knows his way around the
industry
when i poured over the history of this
film i kept asking myself
what went wrong and every time the
problem be traced back to larry
even though he had all the odds in his
favor the downfall of food fight seems
to be the arrogance of larry kassanov
he had funding skilled riders an
experienced animation team
and had secured deals with some of the
most popular food brands as well as
well-known voice actors
but he didn't utilize them to their full
potential instead he ignored them
and didn't even have enough knowledge of
the medium to know how to utilize them
properly
this is disappointing because the
beginnings of threshold entertainment
are similar to that of pixar
they started with a few shorts and doing
visual effects for movies
with the next big step being a feature
film the stark difference
is that pixar had a team full of
visionary artists who wanted to make a
great movie
threshold on the other hand was led by a
businessman who considered profit before
content
someone with all the money but none of
the heart
luckily the story does have a happy
ending threshold are still around today
still doing 3d animation but now for
theme park rides
and larry kassanov has since directed
another movie a 2015 documentary on
mindfulness
and from what i can tell no one's career
was derailed from the movie
though charlie sheen seen better days
but not all as well
it looks like threshold are re-entering
the feature film business with a trilogy
based on the video game
tetris and a 2021 reboot of the mortal
kombat series on the big screen
with kasanov as executive producer
according to his website
we'll see if threshold entertainment and
larry kassadop can surprise us and
redeem themselves
but for some reason i'm not so sure
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