Lifelong Republican drops nightmare news on Trump after conviction
Summary
TLDRIn this Inside the Right episode, hosts Tim and TI Miller discuss the political ramifications of Donald Trump being convicted on all 34 felony counts. They explore whether this will rally Trump's base or negatively impact his support, considering the potential reactions of various voter groups, including low-engagement voters and college-educated Republicans. They also address the strategic implications of the timing, the impact on fundraising, and the moral issues raised by Republicans defending Trump. The conversation highlights the challenges for the Republican Party and the importance of respecting the American justice system.
Takeaways
- đČ Donald Trump has been convicted on all 34 felony counts, marking a historic moment as he becomes the first president ever convicted.
- đ The conviction may negatively impact Trump's support, especially among low-engagement voters and college-educated Republicans.
- đ” Despite the conviction, Trump is expected to raise significant funds from his loyal supporters, potentially narrowing the financial gap with Joe Biden.
- đ€ Some Republican officials are defending Trump, potentially harming their own political standings in swing states.
- đ The conviction has led to polarized reactions within the Republican Party, with some distancing themselves from Trump and others doubling down on their support.
- đ The Republican Party may face challenges in appealing to moderates and independents if they continue to align closely with a convicted felon.
- đŁïž The conviction has sparked significant discussion about the integrity of the American justice system, with some Republicans undermining it and others defending its legitimacy.
- âïž Prominent figures like Mo Brooks have publicly criticized Trump, highlighting the internal divide within the party over his legal troubles.
- đ The Bulwark plans to focus on highlighting the moral and political implications of Trump's conviction and holding Republicans accountable.
- đłïž Efforts will be made to reach out to disaffected Republican voters and emphasize the importance of participating in the upcoming election, even if it means voting against Trump.
Q & A
What is the significance of Donald Trump being convicted on 34 felony counts?
-The conviction on 34 felony counts is a significant event as it marks the first time a former U.S. president has faced such a situation. It could have substantial implications for his political future and the perception of his supporters and critics alike.
What does the speaker believe will be the impact of the conviction on low engagement voters?
-The speaker believes that the conviction might impact low engagement voters who primarily receive news from social media. They may not be fully aware of the details but will likely be influenced by the fact that a former president has been convicted.
How does the conviction affect the group of voters that Joe Biden is currently struggling with?
-The conviction could potentially sway the group of voters that Joe Biden is struggling with, as they might not be closely following the news and could be influenced by the high-profile nature of Trump's conviction.
What is the speaker's opinion on the impact of the conviction on 'softer Republicans' or college-educated Republicans?
-The speaker suggests that the conviction will likely hurt Trump with 'softer Republicans' and college-educated Republicans, as they are more engaged and familiar with the trial's merits, and may not want a felon to be president.
How does the timing of the conviction affect Donald Trump's political prospects?
-The timing of the conviction, four days before the Republican convention, is particularly damaging for Trump. It adds pressure and urgency to the situation, potentially affecting his support within the party.
What is the potential strategic impact of the conviction on Donald Trump's campaign?
-Strategically, the conviction could cause Trump to act erratically, which might further alienate moderate voters and could negatively impact his campaign's overall strategy.
How does the speaker view the immediate reaction of Trump's supporters and some Republican officials?
-The speaker sees the immediate reaction of Trump's supporters and some Republican officials as an attempt to rally around Trump despite the conviction, which they view as a short-sighted and potentially damaging move.
What does the speaker predict regarding the financial impact of the conviction on Trump's campaign?
-The speaker predicts that the conviction will help Trump raise money, as it could motivate his base to donate more actively to his campaign.
What is the speaker's view on the broader implications of the conviction for the Republican Party?
-The speaker believes the conviction and the subsequent reactions from Republican officials could be damaging for the party, as it may alienate moderate voters and further divide the party.
How does the speaker respond to the idea that the conviction might lead to a 'rally around the flag' effect for Trump?
-The speaker disagrees with the idea of a 'rally around the flag' effect, arguing that the conviction is a significant negative for Trump and is unlikely to inspire widespread support beyond his most ardent followers.
What actions does the speaker suggest will be taken by The Bulwark in response to the conviction?
-The speaker suggests that The Bulwark will use its platform to clearly communicate the implications of the conviction, hold Republicans accountable, and work to persuade disaffected Republican voters not to support Trump.
Outlines
đą Trump's Conviction and Its Political Impact
The video script discusses the conviction of Donald Trump on 34 felony counts and debates whether this will lead to a rally around the flag effect or negatively impact him. The speakers express relief at the accountability and predict potential negative outcomes, such as the impact on low-engagement voters and college-educated Republicans. They suggest that the timing of the conviction, just before the Republican convention, will be detrimental to Trump's political standing and could lead to internal party conflicts.
đ Republican Reactions and the Threat to Democracy
This paragraph delves into the reactions of various Republicans to Trump's conviction. It highlights the divide within the party, with some attempting to distance themselves from Trump's legal troubles and others fiercely defending him. The script criticizes those undermining the American justice system and calls out the moral depravity of continuing to support a convicted felon. It also points out the potential long-term damage to the Republican party's image and the dangerous rhetoric that could erode public trust in democratic institutions.
đš Strategy and Messaging Post-Trump Conviction
The speakers outline their strategy and messaging following Trump's conviction. They plan to use their credibility as former Republicans to emphasize the importance of the American justice system and to counteract the narrative that the conviction is illegitimate. The paragraph discusses the importance of speaking clearly to the public about the nature of the threat posed by Trump and his supporters. It also mentions the intention to engage with Republican voters who may be disaffected by the conviction, aiming to understand and communicate their concerns effectively.
đ” Conclusion and Call to Action
The final paragraph of the script is a musical interlude, indicated by the '[Music]' notation. It serves as a conclusion to the preceding discussion and possibly as a transition to further content, although no specific details are provided within this element of the script.
Mindmap
Keywords
đĄConvicted felon
đĄRally around the flag effect
đĄRepublican convention
đĄSofter Republicans
đĄStrategically speaking
đĄMaga acolytes
đĄLitmus test
đĄUndermining the American justice system
đĄBanana Republic
đĄThe Bullwork
Highlights
Donald Trump convicted on all 34 felony counts.
The impact of Trump's conviction on his political future is uncertain but likely negative.
The conviction is expected to hurt Trump with low-engagement voters who are not closely following the news.
Trump's conviction could also negatively affect college-educated Republicans and 'softer' Republicans.
Despite his conviction, Trump's core supporters, the 'Maga acolytes,' will likely continue to support him.
Republican officials are quickly aligning themselves with Trump, despite his conviction, which may harm their chances in elections.
Trump's conviction might help him raise more money for his campaign, narrowing the financial gap between him and Biden.
Larry Hogan, a moderate Republican, urged respect for the verdict, highlighting the division within the Republican Party.
Mo Brooks, a far-right Republican, called on Trump to drop out, showing that even staunch conservatives see the conviction as a problem.
The political implications of Trump's conviction are significant, with potential long-term impacts on the Republican Party.
Republican officials defending Trump are undermining the American justice system, causing potential long-term damage.
The rhetoric from Republican leaders calling the conviction illegitimate is seen as dangerous and undermining public trust in the legal system.
The Bulwark aims to raise awareness about the importance of respecting the justice system and the dangers of undermining it.
The Bulwark will focus on highlighting the internal divisions within the Republican Party and the political consequences of supporting Trump.
Efforts are being made to find regular voters who are disaffected by Trump's conviction to share their perspectives.
The Bulwark's strategy includes using credible messengers to reach key voters and emphasize the importance of rejecting Trump.
Transcripts
this is inside the right so Tim we've
got big news here Donald Trump convicted
on all 34 felony counts this is inside
the right so the obvious question here
do you think this will have some massive
rally around the flag effect for Trump
or will the net effect of this
conviction be negative for him yeah
first I just want to say hell yeah and
cheers you know it's been a long time
coming uh we get some accountability for
this guy um you know been fighting this
guy for a long time now so uh what um
what is the impact going to be you know
we will not know for sure for sure until
we get more data but let's just be real
here being a convicted felon 34 counts
having to be sentenced four days before
the Republican convention this is not
good for Donald Trump this is a big
problem for him it's a problem for him
across a couple of vectors number one
we've talked about this the group that
is the that that Joe Biden is struggling
with the most right now are people that
just aren't paying that close of
attention you know there are people that
if you just that don't get their news
from cable or from shows like this or
from or from the newspaper they're
getting just social media inputs and you
know is it gonna have an impact on those
people to to hear that Donald Trump has
now been unanimously convicted of
business fraud of of defrauding um the
country with lies about his affair I I I
just you have to think that it will
impact some of them will impact all of
them you know or there's some people out
there that might come to Trump's defense
sure like you know this isn't a 100 to
zero thing but on balance I think that
if you're just looking at the core
groups um of people the people that have
you know low engagement this is going to
break through the first time a
president's ever been convicted if they
don't they might not know the day-to-day
of what everything that's going on in in
Gaza everything that's going on in these
trials they might not know judge maran's
name but they're going to know he was
convicted that's going to matter and
then the other group that we talk about
a lot these softer Republicans the
college educated Republican types the
Nikki Haley types um you know they they
are more engaged so they're more
familiar with the merits of the trial uh
but you know there's a certain
percentage of them that are they're
conscientious you know it's like you
you've got a lot of let's stereotype a
little bit you a lot of people like show
up to their kids Schoolboard meet you
know what I mean that they got a we got
a lot of class moms you know and a lot
of dads who are coaching or moms who are
coaching and dads who are class dads
right like like that's the type of
person that this Nikki do they want a
felon to be the president you know I I I
you hear from them we hear from them in
focus groups you never know what people
are actually going to do until they do
it like now happen it's like let's see
right it's different to say
hypothetically I would it would change
my opinion but I I think if you look at
both of those groups on the balance it's
going to hurt Donald Trump with both of
them how much you know we'll see um but
and then strategically speaking I think
it's going to hurt him when you look at
the calendar and I and I also think it's
going to cause him to go insane and so I
think across all three of those points
even more insane than he already was um
so across all three of those points I
think it's definitely a huge negative
for him politically I I I I tend to
agree with all of that and I would say
that the one group obviously who
wouldn't fall into that bucket is the
Trump fans and those are the people you
know the Maga acolytes and those are the
people who are going to you know rally
around his side regardless and you know
in the immediate aftermath of this
verdict we saw those people uh those
very Republican officials Trot
themselves out on Twitter on TV
basically to Kiss the Ring um do you
think that those people you know all of
and and it and it was just about the
entirety of the Republican Party almost
like this was the litmus test now right
it during the trial it was how many how
many of these people can dress like
Donald Trump and show up behind him to
do his bidding you know in a in an
effort to circumvent the gag order on
his behalf now it's how many of these
Republican officials can go on Twitter
go on TV and basically uh breathlessly
defend the guy so do you think that
they're hanging themselves here by so
quickly aligning themselves with a
convicted felon ahead of an ction where
they're going to need moderates to win
and being a convicted felon isn't going
to R down to their benefit yeah some of
them are and some of these swing States
and you see a lot of these Republican
senators in the swing states are doing
worse than Trump really because they're
getting kind of the worst of Both Worlds
some of the Trump voters don't trust
them and then the Democrats Independence
look at them they're like you seem crazy
like you're all the way with Trump you
know so they're they're kind of in a
sour spot so I do think for certain
people it'll hurt them um I do think you
know just in interest of fairness like
it is going to help Trump raise money
and that's just reality right so so you
know Trump there's a huge money gap
between Biden and Trump so Trump will be
able to narrow that that's the one I
hate to even call it a silver lining but
that's the one you know positive that
that Will trump will happen you see
these people on Twitter these
conservatives who are like you know now
I'm going to crawl over glass for Trump
I saw that for three people it's like
sorry bud you can craw over glass if you
want but you still have one vote one
vote is one you know like you can by way
anybody anybody who's claiming that they
were gonna crawl over glass probably
wasn't too on the fence beforehand
exactly exactly so you know someone hold
their nose and votes for Joe Biden and
you crawl overg glass and use your
bloody fingers to vote for Trump it's
still one to one you know it doesn't
really matter you don't get points for
for bonus but right uh one example just
to show you how just how disastrous this
is for Republicans for the tiny group of
Republicans who are responsible in
trying to navigate this sorts of thing
and to show how much of a litness test
it is I don't know if you saw this
Governor Larry Hogan former governor of
Maryland now running for Senate um he's
he's probably you know the most moderate
the of the you know Republicans out
there these days running for Senate so
he put out a responsible normal
statement regardless of the result I
urge all Americans to respect the
verdict in the legal process Etc Chris
levita the campaign manager for Trump
quotes tweets that respes with you just
ended your Camp not only are some of
these Republicans you know trying to
Curry favor with him by sucking up with
to him today but but the Trump campaign
is wielding this like a sword they are
making this a lus test you know they're
they're saying you are not welcome here
remember the old uh what was the thing
that Nikki haey people put on shirts you
know permanently barred that's like like
they're out there saying if you just
think we should just respect the justice
system then you're barred you're not
you're not you're not welcome here um I
I think that's really telling about the
state of the party and um I think that's
going to be damaging both for Trump and
for Hogan right like that's bad for both
sides right because the Hogan people are
like you you know what I mean it's
a it's a two-way um where where they are
um you know they're they're alienating
you know the people on each side of that
that of that dividing line within the
party totally agree now surprisingly
there was you know kind of aligned with
Larry Hogans but even further uh even
further in the other direction Mo Brooks
a republican from Alabama tweeted at
real Donald Trump guilty of 34 felonies
per jury of 12 random citizens none
sought job GOP faces Choice USA future
at stake keep Trump his nominee and
Gamble USA's future or replace Trump
with a good character nominee and beat
the stew out of Biden so first of all
after what feels like a lifetime of
people telling Biden to drop out every
time he breathes the wrong way it's kind
of like uh feels like we're in a
parallel universe here to see someone
actually call on Donald Trump to to to
drop out um even though the equivalen
here here is like Joe Biden misplaces a
modifier and they call on him to drop
out and then Donald Trump it takes 34
felony counts convicted of 34 felony
counts to actually get the first tweet
here but do you think that this kind of
thing actually has
legs well I I don't know if it has legs
in a s it'll get him to drop out but I
think it's very telling and important
because Mo Brooks first good on you Mo
Brooks um Mo Brooks was never my cup of
tea in the Republican side he was always
a tea party farri Republican he was
magga frankly um and then Trump he and
Trump had a falling out over you know at
the Post January 6 Fallout Bo Brooks was
pretty sympathetic to January 6 frankly
it was like in the aftermath of but um
that they had a fall out um but it's
interesting because it's like if
somebody like Mo Brooks a Far Far Right
fire breathing Conservative Republican
can look at this and just with Clear
Eyes say nope you're a felon this is how
the system works we should trust the
system then I to me I think that you can
use that as a cudgel to push back
against the Marco root all these you
know succubuses know these you know
cowards right that you know no better
but are but are making these BS
arguments it's like no look Mo Brooks is
conservative he knows that this was
legit and um and and I think that is a
an important validator you know when
kind of go making making arguments about
this going forward and so I'm I'm glad
he put that out there now we've spoken
here about the political implications
but what about the moral depravity on
display with these Republicans who kind
of are beside themselves sprinting to
coddle someone who is now a convicted
felon like there it seems to me that
there's there's nothing he can't do
really to lose support from these people
I mean you know we've seen that on
display before but now this is another
level I mean convicted on all 34 counts
to Mo Brooks point of a jury of his
peers who didn't want to be there yeah I
actually think it's even worse than that
Ryan as far as the depravity because not
only are they going to his defense but
they are to a person
undermining the American justice system
turning people against it you know
trying to convince people that we should
tear the whole system down I mean it's
like Civil War type rhetoric out there
from you know I've been watching Fox n
Gingrich uh but but sitting members Greg
Abbott I I saw called this a Banana
Republic Mike Johnson the Speaker of the
House who I've praised a couple times
for doing the right thing on Ukraine um
across the board these Republican
politicians out there and the surrogates
saying um that this is illegitimate that
this is a Banana Republic uh there is a
congressman from Georgia Mike Collins
who is out there saying that Republican
Das and AGS now need to start indicting
Democrats and like this is very
dangerous stuff it's a powder keg it is
undermining the confidence in our system
and it's also I I just think you know
really shameful BS you know to hear
things like I mentioned nud earlier I
was watching nud say that this is the
most corrupt system uh that's ever been
put in place in the America in American
history it's like have you talked to a
black person you know like do you
remember slavery like do you remember
Jim Crow South right like are you
kidding me like like you you know
snowflakes like get one trial go against
you and now you're trying to tear the
whole country down when we had decades
upon Decades of systematic repression of
people based on their race based on
their religion like like so it's really
shameful and and I think it's dangerous
and and I hope that you know it's kind
of easy I hope the Democrats do both
it's easy to dunk on Trump dunk on him
make fun of him I'm all for it but I
hope that like they drive home that
message because I think that's a good
political message too I don't think my
old people that those Nikki Al folks
they don't they're not anarchists okay
like they might you know some of them
might be able to hold their nose M for
Trump because of whatever Israel or
Economic Policy whatever their main
issue is but they don't want to turn
turn the whole system down because one
guys having a temper tantrum there's not
a whole lot of overlap um between Wall
Street readers and people who want to
burn the government down yeah right
exactly like they've got mutual funds
you know all right they got they've got
returns they got college funds that they
you know they got College they got to
pay for so anyway um I I think that it's
a good political message in addition it
to being really really disgusting and
let's finish off with this and I want
you to to walk us through a little bit
of what you guys are going to do as the
result of this at The Bu workk for a as
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what's going to be your F your takeaway
here uh with regard to this uh this
conviction yeah um well you know we're
GNA have a lot and we have like you do
George Conway has come on to the B
YouTube feed he's been talking about the
legal side of this he's pretty convinced
there's going to be actual jail time
here we're bringing on Adam kinzinger
former congressman who voted to impeach
Republican Congressman who's going to be
on the feed a lot this week too or in
the coming weeks he's going to be on for
this election cycle and to us you know
look um I I think that we have an
ability to speak clearly to people about
the nature of the threat without having
to worry about you know doing this thing
AP style you know doing this thing you
know having to having to play it down
the middle and be reporting I mean I I
think that we can really raise the
salience on just how outrageous it is
because we have the credibility since we
came from the right you know uh to to
say look we you know we share some of
your views about various ideological
issues but we know the difference
between right and wrong we respect the
American justice system part of the
reason why we Republicans in the first
place because we think that America has
a good system that we should be
protecting and defending not tearing
down right and so I think that is a
message that that we're going to
continue um to carry and and I think
that we're going to continue to hold
these Republicans feet to the fire the
family fight you know you you we can do
it as as good as anybody since you know
the family feuds are a little bit more
intense and so you know I think that's
going to be our main focus and then you
know a lot of my colleagues are doing
the Republican voters against Trump
project my colleague Sarah Longwell runs
that and I think that is trying to
figure out um they're going to go out
with the focus groups and go out and
talk to people regular rep people that
voted for Trump and and find voters
voted for Trump to put in their own
words what pisses them off about this
you know because it's important to have
those Messengers are going to be more
credible at the key voters like finding
people you know who speak like regular
Americans talking about why they're
upset with it rather than you know
having to be kind of pundit pundit class
talking points which sometimes a lot of
these swing voters tune out because just
like wah wah wah you know um so th those
are kind of the main efforts that we're
going to be looking at over the next few
weeks well look I think that's
especially important because as you
alluded to I mean you guys are
Republicans former Republicans
Independents it's going to be a lot
easier for you to make that pitch to
these disaffected Republican voters or
former Republican voters former Trump
voters even than it will for someone
like me you know a a communist Marxist
Democrat a radical leftist to in weho to
make that to make that exact case so um
you know that's why I'm pushing so hard
to to make sure that folks who are
watching right now if you want to build
up good U media sources good media
Outlets the bull workk is exactly that
and it will help give that permission
structure to those Republicans former
Republicans to make sure to get out and
you know not just not vote for Donald
Trump but not sit on the couch on
November 5th which is equally as
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