Trump is the outsider now: Kellyanne Conway

Fox Business
31 May 202407:00

Summary

TLDRIn a recent discussion, Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager for Donald Trump, addresses the jury's verdict convicting Trump of a crime related to hush money payments, making him the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime. She emphasizes the importance of focusing on campaign strategy and policy issues rather than individual personalities. The conversation also highlights the significance of selecting a vice-presidential candidate who can help win the election, govern effectively, and be ready from day one, with names like Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, and J.D. Vance being considered.

Takeaways

  • 📜 A jury found former President Trump guilty in the so-called hush money trial, marking the first time a U.S. President has been convicted of a crime.
  • 🗳️ Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager for Trump in 2016, argues that the campaign was focused on strategy rather than individual grievances, emphasizing the importance of winning votes.
  • 💰 Conway mentions that the campaign was losing to Hillary Clinton by almost 20 points among women and discusses the decision to pay $130,000 to Stormy Daniels as a distraction from campaign strategy.
  • 🤔 She questions the motives of those involved, suggesting some may have been trying to gain Trump's attention and make themselves more important to the campaign.
  • 👥 Conway notes the lack of testimony from anyone involved in the campaign in the case, which she believes is important to consider.
  • 🌐 She advises President Trump to focus on challenging the grievances of the people and not just on individual issues, emphasizing policy over personality.
  • 👮‍♂️ Kevin, a Fox News Digital contributor, discusses the importance of polling independent voters in critical states and their potential reaction to the verdict.
  • 📊 Kevin suggests that while the verdict may cause a shift in polling, it's essential to return to discussing policy issues such as border control, foreign affairs, taxes, and energy.
  • 🧐 He emphasizes the need for the public to understand the case details and the importance of focusing on issues that affect voters' lives, such as inflation and the economy.
  • 🏆 The conversation highlights the increasing importance of the Vice Presidential pick for the upcoming election, with the suggestion that Trump is considering candidates from the Senate.
  • 🔑 Criteria for the Vice Presidential pick include the ability to help win the election, governance skills, and readiness to take office from day one.

Q & A

  • What significant event occurred involving former President Trump according to the transcript?

    -A jury found former President Trump guilty in the so-called hush money trial, making him the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime.

  • What was Kellyanne Conway's role in the 2016 Trump campaign?

    -Kellyanne Conway served as the campaign manager for Donald Trump in 2016.

  • How did Kellyanne Conway describe the campaign strategy regarding the payment to Stormy Daniels?

    -Kellyanne Conway stated that the idea of paying $130,000 to Stormy Daniels was not part of the campaign strategy and she would not have advised such a move.

  • What was Kellyanne Conway's perspective on the campaign's focus during the 2016 election?

    -Kellyanne Conway emphasized the importance of focusing on issues such as the economy, energy independence, and border security rather than on individual personalities or politics.

  • According to Kellyanne Conway, what should President Trump focus on to appeal to voters?

    -She advised President Trump to challenge the grievances of people who feel forgotten and invisible, and to focus on policy and principles rather than personality.

  • What was Kevin's view on the impact of the verdict on the upcoming election?

    -Kevin believes that the election will likely be decided by independents in critical states and that it's important to poll them to see if they care about the verdict now that Donald Trump is technically a felon.

  • What does Kevin suggest should be the focus after the verdict?

    -Kevin suggests that the focus should return to policy issues such as border control, foreign affairs, taxes, and energy, which he believes are more important to voters.

  • How does Kevin view the role of the Vice Presidential pick in the election?

    -Kevin considers the Vice Presidential pick to be increasingly important, especially given the current political climate and the need for a strong debate partner for Kamala Harris.

  • What are some of the criteria Kellyanne Conway suggests for choosing a Vice Presidential candidate?

    -Kellyanne Conway suggests that the Vice Presidential candidate should be able to help win the election, be capable of governing, and be ready to take over on day one.

  • Who are some of the potential Vice Presidential candidates mentioned by Kellyanne Conway?

    -Kellyanne Conway mentioned Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, and J.D. Vance as potential Vice Presidential candidates.

Outlines

00:00

🏛️ Trump Conviction and Political Strategy

In this paragraph, Kellyanne Conway reacts to the conviction of former President Trump in the hush money trial, making history as the first U.S. President to be convicted of a crime. She reflects on her role as campaign manager in 2016, discussing the strategy and challenges faced during the campaign, particularly the gender gap and the Trump Tower meeting. Conway argues that paying off Stormy Daniels was not part of the campaign strategy and criticizes those who sought to gain Trump's attention through such actions. She emphasizes the importance of focusing on policy issues like the economy, energy independence, and border security rather than on individual personalities or grievances. Maria then discusses the significance of the Vice Presidential pick in light of the verdict and its potential impact on the upcoming election.

05:00

🗳️ Impact of Trump's Conviction on Election and VP Selection

The second paragraph delves into the potential impact of Trump's felony conviction on the upcoming election, with a focus on the importance of independent voters in critical states. Kevin, a Fox News Digital contributor, suggests that while the conviction might initially sway some voters, the election will ultimately be decided by policy plans and positions on issues such as border control, foreign affairs, taxes, and energy. He emphasizes the need for a return to policy discussions and the importance of addressing inflation and economic concerns. Maria and Kevin also discuss the criteria for selecting a Vice Presidential candidate, mentioning potential candidates like Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, and J.D. Vance, and the implications for the Senate if any of these individuals are chosen.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Jury Finding

A 'jury finding' refers to the decision or verdict reached by a jury in a legal case. In the context of the video, it is mentioned that a jury found former President Trump guilty, which is a significant event in the narrative as it marks the first time a U.S. president has been convicted of a crime.

💡Hush Money

Hush money is a term used to describe payments made to keep someone quiet, often to prevent them from disclosing potentially damaging information. In the video, the discussion revolves around a trial where hush money is implicated, suggesting that it is a central issue in the legal case involving the former President.

💡Campaign Manager

A campaign manager is responsible for the planning, management, and execution of a political campaign. Kellyanne Conway, who served as a campaign manager in 2016, is mentioned in the script, indicating her significant role in the campaign strategy and her perspective on the events discussed.

💡Tabloid

A tabloid is a type of newspaper that typically features sensational stories, often related to celebrities or scandals. In the video, the term 'tabloid things' is used to describe a publisher, suggesting the involvement of sensationalist media in the events being discussed.

💡Testimony

Testimony refers to the evidence given by a witness in a court of law. The script mentions that Kellyanne Conway testified before Stormy Daniels, indicating that her firsthand account is part of the legal proceedings and is relevant to the case.

💡Strategy

In the context of a political campaign, 'strategy' refers to the plan of action designed to achieve specific goals. The script discusses the campaign strategy, questioning the rationale behind certain decisions and their impact on the campaign's success.

💡Inflation

Inflation is the rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and subsequently, purchasing power is falling. In the video, the discussion turns to inflation as a significant issue that both candidates need to address, highlighting its importance to voters.

💡Vice Presidential Pick

The 'vice presidential pick' is a term used to describe the selection of a running mate in a presidential election. The script suggests that the choice of a vice presidential candidate is becoming increasingly important, and various potential candidates are mentioned.

💡Policy

Policy refers to a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by an organization or individual. The video emphasizes the need to focus on policy issues such as border control, foreign affairs, taxes, and energy, rather than on individual personalities or personal grievances.

💡Election

An election is a formal group decision-making process by which a population chooses an individual to hold public office. The script discusses the upcoming election and the potential impact of the former President's conviction on the outcome, as well as the importance of policy in swaying voters.

💡Appeal

An appeal is a legal procedure by which a case is brought from a lower court to a higher court for a new trial. The script mentions the appellate system as a means to correct potential errors in the legal process, suggesting that there may be further developments in the case.

Highlights

A jury finding former President Trump guilty in the so-called hush money trial, making him the first U.S. President to be convicted of a crime.

Kellyanne Conway's reaction to the verdict, discussing her role as campaign manager in 2016 and the strategy behind the payment to Stormy Daniels.

Conway's testimony before Stormy Daniels and the discussion about the campaign's strategy and the role of Michael Cohen and David Pecker.

The argument that paying a woman versus more ads was part of the campaign strategy and the implications of the payment on the campaign.

Conway's opinion on people trying to get Trump's attention and affection to make themselves more important in the campaign.

The importance of the economy and the role of Donald Trump as an outsider who could speak to the forgotten men, women, and children.

Conway's advice for President Trump to focus on challenging the grievances of the people and policy over personality.

The discussion on the importance of the Vice Presidential pick and its potential impact on the election.

Kevin's take on the verdict's potential influence on independent voters and the importance of polling after the verdict.

The focus on policy issues such as border control, foreign affairs, tax, and energy as key points for the election.

The potential shift in polling due to the felony conviction and the role of the appellate system in correcting potential errors.

The importance of focusing on issues that matter to voters, such as inflation, gas prices, food prices, and housing.

The criteria for selecting a Vice Presidential candidate: ability to help win, governance skills, and readiness for office.

The consideration of candidates from the Senate and the implications of their replacement on the Senate.

The potential impact of selecting a person of color as a Vice Presidential candidate and the importance of modernizing the campaign.

Transcripts

00:08

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00:08

MARIA: WELCOME BACK.

00:08

A JURY FINDING FORMER

00:11

PRESIDENT TRUMP GUILT 4 PUTS

00:11

ON IN SO-CALLED HUSH MONEY

00:12

TRIAL YESTERDAY MAKING HIM

00:17

FIRST U.S. PRESIDENT TO BE

00:18

CONVICTED OF A CRIME KELLYANNE

00:21

CONWAY REACTION.

00:22

KELLYANNE: I WANT TO GO BACK

00:24

TO THE CASE FOR A MOMENT I AM

00:27

TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD I WAS A

00:29

CAMPAIGN MANAGER IN 2016 WE

00:31

ARE LOSING TO HILLARY CLINTON

00:33

BY DOUBLE DIJTS ALMOST 20

00:35

POINTS AMONG WOMEN WEAPON WHY

00:37

ARE IMPORTANT?

00:38

WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A

00:40

MEETING IN TRUMP TOWER A YEAR

00:43

AND A HALF YEARLY A PUBLISHER

00:46

OF TABLOID THINGS YOU ARE

00:47

GOING TO BEAT HILLARY CLINTON

00:49

BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE SAY IT IS

00:51

FOOL LISHNESS THEY CONTINUE

00:54

CALL ME AS A WITNESS I

00:56

TESTIFIED BEFORE STORMY

00:58

DANIELS TWICE ANYBODY WHO HAD

01:00

AUTHORITY FOR CAMPAIGN TO SAY

01:01

HER STRATEGY THE IDEA WE HAD

01:04

130,000 EXTRA DOLLARS LAYING

01:07

AROUND I WOULD SAY GIVE OUT TO

01:08

SOME PORN PERSON I DON'T CALL

01:11

IT A STAR, AN OPINION BUT THE

01:16

IDEA YOU ARE GOING TO PAY SOME

01:17

WOMAN VERSUS MORE ADS UP MORE

01:20

OF PARTLY OF THE CAMPAIGN

01:21

STRATEGY THOSE RUNNING

01:22

CAMPAIGN DO I THINK PEOPLE

01:24

TRYING TO GET TRUMP'S

01:25

ATTENTION AFFECTION MAKE

01:26

THEMSELVES MORE IMPORTANT TO

01:28

HIM AND CAMPAIGN?

01:30

YES, BUT MICHAEL COHEN DAVID

01:32

PECKER DONAL J. TRUMP NEVER IN

01:33

A CAMPAIGN BEFORE SO WE NEED

01:35

TO BACK UP ALSO, AND EVERYBODY

01:38

TALKED ABOUT FOOLISHNESS

01:40

UNFAIRNESS, FROM THE BEGINNING

01:41

BUT IN TERMS OF CAMPAIGN

01:43

STRANGLE YOU HEARD TESTIMONY

01:44

FROM NO ONE, INVOLVED IN THE

01:45

CAMPAIGN IN THIS CASE I THINK

01:47

THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO

01:49

NOTE.

01:50

I LISTENED TO THE MARKET

01:52

BEFORE I THINK IMPORTANT

01:53

BECAUSE REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE

01:55

WANT CHANGE, IT IS BECAUSE THE

01:57

ECONOMY IS NOT DOING WELL

01:59

DON'T FEEL PEACEFUL PROSPEROUS

02:01

SECURE IN ANY ASPECT DON'T

02:03

FEEL SYSTEM IS FAIR WHO IS

02:05

ANSWER ANTIDOTE?

02:07

IT IS DONALD TRUMP OUTSIDERS

02:08

NOW ABLE TO SAY TO SO-CALLED

02:12

FORGOTTEN MEN FORGOTTEN WOMEN

02:13

FORGOTTEN CHILDREN I AM ONE OF

02:14

YOU LOOK WHAT SYSTEM HAS DONE

02:16

TO ME THEY MADE HIM A LITTLE

02:20

BIT OF A VICTIM CREATED

02:22

SYMPATHY FOR HIM I WOULD

02:24

ADVISE PRESIDENT MAKE SURE HE

02:26

GOES BACK TO KACHALLENGING THE

02:29

GRIEVANCE OF PEOPLE DON'T JUST

02:31

FEEL FORGOTTEN THEY THE PEOPLE

02:33

INVISIBLE ONE MAN CAN FIX

02:38

ECONOMY MAKE US

02:39

ENERGY-INDEPENDENT FIX THAT

02:40

BORDER IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT

02:41

ISSUES THIS SHOULD BE ISSUE

02:43

BASED NOT INDIVIDUAL BASED

02:45

POLICY NOT HE WERE PERSONALITY

02:47

PRINCIPALS NOT POLITICS

02:49

CAMPAIGN.

02:49

MARIA: I CAN SEE HOW V.P.

02:51

PICK BECOMES INCREASINGLY

02:53

IMPORTANT AT THIS STAGE, KEVIN

02:54

AWAY I WANT YOUR TAKE ON DAY

02:57

KELLYANNE AS WELL FIRST REACT

02:59

TO THIS KEVIN FOX NEWS DIGITAL

03:00

SPOKE WITH REGULAR AMERICANS

03:04

ABOUT THIS VERDICT YESTERDAY

03:05

WATCH THIS.

03:06

>> -- I HAVE I KIND OF BLOWS

03:09

MY MIND CAN YOU SAY BANANA

03:13

REPUBLIC.

03:14

>> A COMPLETE FAILURE BY

03:16

JUSTICE, COMPLETE JOE

03:21

BIDEN-KAMALA HARRIS GOOD JOB,

03:25

A CONSPIRATORS LITERALLY GO

03:27

AFTER A REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT O

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GO AFTER THEM A SCARY PLACE TO

03:33

BE.

03:34

>> KEVIN, THERE IS A MONEY

03:35

TANGLE OF REGULAR ORDINARY

03:37

CITIZENS WITH THEIR REACTION,

03:39

AFTER THE VERDICT CAME

03:40

DOWN GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHAT

03:42

COULD HAPPEN IN THE ELECTION

03:43

YOUR THOUGHTS?

03:44

KEVIN: , I AM PRETTY SURE THIS

03:48

ELECTION ABOUT DECIDED BY

03:50

INDEPENDENTS IN CRITICAL

03:50

STATES WHAT I CARE ABOUT WHAT

03:52

THEY THINK I THINK IF WE

04:01

POLLED, 10,000, THEY GET IN

04:04

VERDICT ALL POLLS TAKEN BEFORE

04:05

THE VERDICT, WITH -- YOU KNOW

04:07

THE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

04:09

THAT MAYBE 60, 70% DEBT CARE

04:11

IT IS TIME TO POLL NOW FIND

04:13

OUT IF THEY CARE NOW THAT

04:15

DONALD TRUMP IS TECHNICALLY A

04:17

FELON, OBVIOUSLY, THEY STILL

04:17

DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CASE IS

04:20

ABOUT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T

04:21

WATCHING IT, I THINK THE KEY

04:24

THOUGH IS AFTER ALL THIS

04:26

EXCITEMENT WITH THIS VERDICT

04:28

COMING DOWN IT IS BACK TO

04:30

POLICY.

04:31

SO I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH IN THE

04:32

LAST SIX WEEKS ABOUT WHAT THE

04:34

PLANS ARE FOR BORDER, FOR

04:36

FOREIGN AFFAIRS FOR TAX FOR

04:38

ENERGY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE

04:39

I THINK INDEPENDENTS WOULD TOO

04:40

THEN GOING TO REALLY MATTER

04:42

BUT MY GUESS IS THERE IS GOING

04:45

TO BE SOME SHIFT IN THE

04:47

POLLING AS A RESULT OF THE

04:49

ACTUAL FELONY CONVICTION BUT

04:50

IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE

04:51

APPELLANT SYSTEM AND I DO,

04:53

BECAUSE I AM NOT SAYING THAT

04:55

THESE ARE BAD JURORS I AM NOT

04:57

SAYING SYSTEM IS RIGGED I AM

05:00

SAYING IF IT IS WRONG, WHAT

05:01

HAPPENED, THE APPELLANT SYSTEM

05:02

WILL CATCH IT THAT IS HOW

05:04

AMERICA WORKS, AND I DON'T

05:05

KNOW WHEN THAT IS GOING TO

05:10

OCCUR I WOULD SUGGEST

05:15

ACCELERATE THAT IN THIS CASE

05:17

CRUCIAL TO THE COMPANY TENDED

05:18

IF YOU ARE AT KITCHEN TABLE DO

05:19

YOU REALLY CARE THAT MUCH

05:21

ABOUT THIS CASE OTHER THAN

05:23

FELONY CONVICTION OR YOU CARE

05:26

ABOUT INFLATION A BIG PROBLEM

05:27

FOR BOTH CANDIDATES THEY HAVE

05:28

GOT TO TAME THIS ON GAS, FOOD

05:30

PRICES HOUSING THAT IS WHAT

05:31

PEOPLE VOTE ABOUT, THAT IS

05:32

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOCUS

05:34

GO BACK TO, AND FIND OUT.

05:37

MARIA: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT

05:38

KELLYANNE SAID IN BEGINNING OF

05:39

COMMENTS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO

05:42

CHANGE, WHAT IS ALREADY IN

05:45

PLACE THAT IS BIDEN'S

05:46

INFLATIONARY AMERICA ALL

05:48

GUILTY VERDICTS IN THE WORLD

05:49

NOT GOING TO CHANGE FACT

05:51

SOMEBODY I KNOW PAID 13

05:53

DOLLARS FOR A A LOT OF OF

05:55

BREAD KELLYANNE VICE PRESIDENT

05:57

PICK MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER?

05:58

WHO SHOULD IT BE NIGHT IS VERY

06:00

IMPORTANT, BECAUSE KAMALA

06:02

HARRIS IS JOE BIDEN'S V.P.

06:03

ANYBODY COULD BEAT HER IN A

06:05

DEBATE THE POINT IS THAT

06:07

DONALD TRUMP HAS AN DOESN'T

06:08

BIDEN DOESN'T I THINK TRUMP

06:10

HEAVILY LOOKING AT THE SENATE

06:13

MAKES A TON OF SENSE GIVEN

06:15

FOREIGN POLICY COMPLICATIONS

06:17

YOU HEARD HIM MENTIONED TIM

06:19

SCOTT REMARKO RUBIO TOM COTTON

06:23

J.D. VANCE, OUR FORMER

06:24

AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN YOU CAN'T

06:26

GO WRONG WITH ANY OF THEM I

06:28

THINK YOU HAVE TO SEE WHO

06:31

WOULD REPLACE THEM IN SENATE

06:34

WOULD GOVERNORS APPOINT I

06:36

THINK, BUT IN OHIO A LITTLE

06:39

BIT MORE THOUGHT I'M SURE

06:41

PRESIDENT TRUMP CONSIDERING

06:42

SAUL IMPLICATIONS.

06:43

HE CAN'T GO WRONG IF HE PICKS

06:44

A PERSON OF COLOR MAKES A TON

06:50

OF SENSE MODERNIZE RETURNS THE

06:52

THREE CRITERIA FOR ME NUMBER

06:53

ONE SOMEBODY CAN HELP YOU WIN,

06:56

TWO GECH YOU GOVERN, THREE

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READY DAY ONE DESCRI