Donald Trump Found GUILTY in Hush Money Trial | EMERGENCY PODCAST | PBD Podcast | Ep. 417

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one all right so if you're tuning in

it's because it's an emergency podcast

Trump found guilt on all 34 counts uh

we're going to go through a few

different things on what others are

saying uh what the market is talking

about what is this going to look like

we'll share some of our thoughts and

then we'll wrap up as well as give you

some other people that you may use to

ask questions of let me go through some

of these things that just came in so

less than an hour ago or about an hour

ago Trump found guilty on 34 counts of

falsifying business records in the first

degree he uh uh this is related to the

$13,000 payment to porn stormmy Daniels

by his then personal lawyer Michael

Cohen before the 2016 election Cohen

testified during the trial uh that Trump

directed him to pay Daniels in 2016

obviously we know what happened with

Cohen Trump's the first former US

president to be charged with a crime if

you notice in a Marketplace what is very

consistent with what everybody is

tweeting they're using the same exact

phrase by everybody convicted felon

convicted felon convicted felon

convicted felon remember Russia

collusion remember convicted felon

remember you know Russian racist

remember all this stuff this is the new

two w so we're learning English with

these guys on how they're handling it at

least maybe for me as efl guy English as

a fifth language the next two words

that's going to be popular in the next

five months will be convicted felon at

the debate everywhere watch this

potential jail sentence four years per

each count however Trump could serve the

sentence concurrently rather than

consecutively so he could be looking at

four or 136 years in jail according to

CNN judge merchin denied Trump's move

for an acquittal and set a sentencing

hearing for July 11th at 10:

a.m. 4 days before the RNC in Milwaukee

Trump remains free without trial the 12

members jury deliberated less than 10

hours over two days before sending out a

note to judge Merchant saying they've

had they've reached a verdict before the

announcement Trump's lawyers prosecutors

reported exp expected the jury to be

dismissed for the dayby at 4:30 uh Trump

faces three more pending criminal cases

in two of these day cases Trump is

charged with criminal related to his

efforts to overturn his 2020 election

that's one one of these cases in federal

court in DC the others in Georgia and

Atlanta Trump is charged with federal

court in Florida with crimes related to

his retention of classified government

records after he left the White House in

January 2021 he also faces a civil

judgment in Manhattan Court which we

know that about $450 million also o a

couple other for Ean Carroll and he's

obviously appealing the verdicts in the

three civil cases let me share with you

what he said when he got out of uh Court

Rob if you can play that clip this is

him right after he leave the uh the

court go

forward you about to

jail this was a disgrace this was a

rigged trial by a conflicted judge who

was

corrupt it's a Rigg trial a disgrace

they wouldn't give us a venue change we

were at 5% or

6% in this District in this area this

was a rigged disgraceful trial the real

verdict is going to be November 5th by

the people yes and they know what

happened here and everybody knows what

happened here you have a Sor respect

back da and the whole thing we didn't do

a thing wrong I'm a very innocent

man and it's okay I'm fighting for our

country I'm fighting for our

constitution our whole country is being

rigged right now this was done by the

Biden

Administration in order to wound or hurt

an opponent a political opponent and I

think it's a just a disgrace and we'll

keep fighting we'll fight till the end

and we'll win because

our we don't have the same country

anymore we have a divided mess we're

nation in Decline serious decline

millions and millions of people pouring

into our country right now from prisons

and from mental institutions terrorists

and they're taking over our country we

have a country that's in big trouble but

this was a rigged decision right from

day one with a conflicted judge who

should have never been allowed to try

this case never and we will fight for

our constitution this is long from over

thank you very much why should voters go

for

tell listen back up back up it's

important because this is this is

telling you what their game plan is

going to be listen very carefully folks

go ahead this is long from over thank

you very much

why are

you okay pause it why should voters vote

for a convicted felon just remember that

was the first question whoever she

represented that voice that's what

they're going to be going with the next

four and a half five months okay so

brace impact that's what we're hearing

now go to the market let's see what some

people are

saying rob start off with the people on

the left and go to some people on the

right whoever you have so okay Keith

obman Bingo obviously he's a sweetheart

yeah uh uh next Jeff tedrick uh Trump is

guilty as F haa Oops I meant how

terrible as guilty as F Donald Trump now

go to his profile so people know who he

is and what his profile says yeah look

at his face it says don't blame me I

voted for the email lady okay you know

who he's talking about you know where he

stands yeah uh next Brian cenin the

verdict is in guilt on all accounts

Trump is officially convicted felon

you're either now planning to vote for

convicted felon for president or you not

stop pretending that the side that is

not voting for the Felon is a crazy one

if I ask any American 2016 whether they

would vote for convicted felon 99.9%

would have said heck no you change not

the American justice system go to the

next one Rob um Brian Tyler Cohen uh

guilty guilty guilty go ahead let's see

what Don Don Lemon has creative uh

what's Don lemon's got Robb uh W news

guilty on 24 34 counts he is now a

convicted felon notice the key words

convicted felon that's the marketing

Lincoln project they have a clip if you

want to play this clip um is this the

same clip rob you just had the clip yeah

watch this clip from Lincoln project

obviously these guys are amazing yeah

Donald Trump found guilty on all 34

counts of falsifying business records in

the first you're criminal

Donald this brand is coming pay

attention not the Deep State not the Dem

rats not the Biden

Administration a jury regular people who

saw the evidence yeah and felt sick Oh

no you're a criminal and you did it to

yourself nobody's ever seen anything

like this it's a it's a shame your

defense was weak because you were weak

they had no argument because there is no

argument you were too scared to testify

because you knew

Donald you

know you're

guilty guilty is sin there you go so

that's Lin project has

charged well yeah the L the Lincoln

project how many of them were pedophiles

or pedophile one of them registered for

a Russian agent uh and the other ones

were cheating on his tax your friend

Steve Schmid United States of America

has entered a constitutional crisis

there is no question that there about

this or consequence of the Fidelity

we're about to see from the Republican

elected officials to the convicted felon

go to the next one loser uh Biden

immediately there's only one way to keep

Donald Trump out of Oval Office at The

Ballot Box donate to our campaign today

go to the next one um no one in this

country is above the law this is the

same guy that robs had pulled the uh

fire alarm and then he got away with it

so being convicted for falsifying

business records with hush money go to

the next one you need to see all this

stuff guys now go to what Tucker and

some of the people on the right are

saying rob um

important the third world became become

the third import the third world become

the third world that's what we just saw

this won't stop Trump he'll win the

election if he's not killed first but it

does Mark the end of the fairest justice

system in the world anyone who defends

this verdict is a danger to you and your

family go to the next one Megan Kelly

guilty on all counts the country is

disgrace Alam BR should be the sparred

this uh they will Ru the day they

unleash this lawfare to corrupt

presidential election go to the next one

what an fing scam F all these commies go

to the next one this is a dark day for

America go to the next one uh who is

this Rona santis I'll read this one to

you because it's Ron today's verdict

represents the culmination of a legal

process that has been uh bent to the

political will of the actors involved a

leftist prosecutor a partisan judge and

a jury reflective of one of the most

liberal in uh enclaves in America in all

effort to get Trump this case involving

alleged misdemeanor business records

violations from nearly a decade ago was

even brought in a as a testament to the

political debasement of the justice

system in places like New York City this

is especially true considering the same

district attorney routinely excuses

criminal conducts in a way that has been

endangered law-abiding citizens and

jurisdiction it is often said that no

one is above the law but is also true

that no one is below the law if the

defendant were not Donald Trump this

case would never have been brought the

judge would have never issued similar

rulers LS and the jury would have never

returned a guilty verdict in America the

rule of law should be applied to this uh

this this passionate evenhanded manner

not become captive to the political

agenda of some kangaroo court go to the

next one uh Biden guilty of abuse of

power Biden guilty of turning our

country into a Banana Republic where

those abuse of power law to go after

political opponents guilty of

undermining our Constitution and the

freedoms guaranteed therein Biden has

proven he is UN for the office of

presidency anyways we can say a bunch of

different things by a bunch of different

people uh Trump's website is down right

now if you can go to put people wanting

to donate so you're seeing how people

are

reacting if you can refresh his website

so we can just see it Rob uh uh refresh

it uhoh it's down go to the next one uh

under maintenance okay now it's back

Never Surrender can you now give money

or no if you can go lower complete my

yeah you can okay so this one's back up

which means what does this tell you so

you could traffic is going so much to

the website where people are reacting in

a way Rob can you go to my last tweet

just to kind of give my thoughts and

then I'm going to come to you guys to

get some thoughts here here's what I

think this is exactly what my position

is with this it's two things okay number

one is expect two things number one more

businesses leaving New York just guess

guess what if you're a business owner in

New York here's the decision you have to

make for the rest of your life you can

never have

conservative political

aspirations and you can't be a

billionaire you can't be aspirational

you can't be too loud or else they're

going to destroy they're going to try to

destroy your life New York's about to

have more business owners leave there a

lot of people I'm talking to who have

stayed there asking there's even people

saying I'm waiting to see what's going

to happen here because if it's just a

you know a show circus show I'm staying

it's not a big deal but if they go here

I have to leave because I may may be

rised 5 10 15 20 years from now number

two poll's reacting positively towards

djt's favor Americans are not dumb what

the left hopes this will do will

shockingly surprise them future looks

bright but at the same time stay

extremely paranoid Tom your thoughts on

what happened today and what was

announced well this all started with

Alvin Bragg who's a political tool and

he took those misdemeanor counts we

covered it on the podcast and actually

we covered it a day before it was

unfolded in other forums talking about

how he had uh contrived it into uh a set

of things technically calling it a

felony um and so that's a complete tool

the jury instructions I could go on in

this and there are very learned uh legal

experts and Scholars are saying listen

this is for election year because under

appeal and where this is going to go um

this this is weak this is weak like

Colorado Supreme Court was weak and was

ultimately overturned by the Supreme

Court but look they're also trying to

put the sentencing right there 4 days

before uh the RNC in milwauke so I I

think what they have done and and I I'll

quote the Japanese emperor I fear we

have um awakened a sleeping giant

actually I don't know if emper that said

that or it was the the head of the U

Japanese Armed Forces but um after World

PE harur says I fear we have awakened a

sleeping giant and I honestly fear um

for for the country because it shows

that now in elections in the greatest um

democracy in the

world at least one side is so unafraid

to do whatever it takes an election even

walking across lines like this and so

that makes me sad for the future even as

I'm very confident on how this is going

to appeal but they don't give a crap

about appeal what they want is this D

disruption right now and they want the

word convict and the script is out and

it's used the word convicted felon beat

him to death with that Adam um I'm I'm

probably

not it's very weird where I'm at with

Trump right now um we know I wasn't a

fan but now I'm 100% out on Biden and

I've been subtly rooting for Trump like

meaning like come on man like let's

let's let's get this thing together I am

I'm so non-emotional about this that I'm

actually just being completely logical

about this I have zero emotion you might

people are GNA be like well [ __ ] you how

can you not people are gonna be like how

can you not hate Trump zero emotion

which is crazy right now I get it and

I'm just looking at the

facts you know last week we did a

podcast we talked about James Comey we

talked about his interview and um do you

remember what he said in the story he

said James Comey this is the story that

was in the media James Comey predicted

that Trump would be convicted in a hush

money trial and defends Vin brag um

bringing the case I said wow this is a

pretty big this is the former director

of the FBI yes he's biased but to come

out publicly and say this I was like

what do he know something we don't know

he said the following uh he predicted an

interview with Dan Abrams at the former

president Donald Trump would be

convicted in his hush money trial this

was a week ago is this a clip this is it

right here I think there's an

overwhelming chance of a conviction see

this what do you think's going to happen

I can't imagine there'll be anything

about a hung jury but that's just my

actually I have a different take I think

it's a an overwhelming chance of a

conviction a significant but much

smaller chance of a hung jury and zero

chance of an acquittal why because he

knows people why is there a chance of no

no no why do you think there's more of a

chance of a conviction than than a

hunger because they built a very strong

circumstantial case they built a

building out of a series of bricks that

really couldn't be crossed because they

were documents they were texts they were

the words of the defendant before they

went to their cooperator at the end I

bet they even debated whether they

needed to call Cohen as a cooperator and

that Circ stantial case at least in my

experience having tried a lot of cases

is very very powerful with the jury but

it seems to me that this is a different

kind of case right that the typical

legal analysis that I end up doing on

typical cases doesn't apply here that

that the questions that jurors maybe

aren't supposed to be evaluating like

are we really here over a payout to a

porn star with the foreign president of

United States who's now the Republican

nominee um sitting here this is what

this is all about I think that may

factor in to some of the jurors thinking

even though that's not what the judge is

going to instruct them yeah maybe but my

gut tells me and a lot of experience

that they'll be impressed with the way

in which the prosecution connected it to

broader themes to an election to what

are the chances Adam you think Comey was

speaking to judges and people involved

that for for him to know what the

verdict is going to be what do you think

he was once an FBI guy once a CIA guy

always uh CIA guy highly likely okay

highly likely okay continue we're on the

same page cool so again I'm just

following the numbers here as our friend

the bisoc says people talk numbers

scream right numbers yell words talk

numbers scream there it is um you know I

did uh an episode about two weeks ago

when I had uh on people on sast talking

about the likelihood of trump being

convicted and not convicted here's Trump

supporters here are the numbers and this

is where am I going with the election I

think this is enough to sway the

election I'm sure we'll talk about what

the U charges will be and look like and

what the penalty will be but 80% of

trump voters said they would still vote

for him no matter what 4% wouldn't 4%

16% said they would reconsider so what's

4% of how many people voted for Trump

last time 75 million people so how many

what how many millions is that 3 3.2

million million all I mean right if you

look at the national polls yeah you know

Trump's up two if you look at the swing

States Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania

Georgia Nevada he's up five to seven

points even if this is a he doesn't go

to jail God for I do not want to see

Trump in jail 100% I think that's

[ __ ] I've talked about win the game

on the field not in the pregame but if

these numbers move just a little bit

boom boom boom all of a sudden that 2%

is even all of a sudden that 5% is now

2% you're within the margin of error

we'll see what happens but I think it's

an overall very sad day for our country

of course Trump's going to say he's not

guilty of course the people that love

Trump are going to be angry and pissed

angry Patriots and of course there's

going to be the left people on the left

that are excited for this day I'm so not

on either Camp I just want the best for

America let's see what happens and by

the way while you're talking about this

Vinnie I'm going to come to you this is

what Chuck Schumer said we've talked

about this many time we've shown this

clip play this clip with Chuck Schumer

said about the power of the justice

system go ahead he's taking these shots

this antagonism is taunting to the

intelligence Community tell you take on

the intelligence Community they have six

ways from Sunday at getting back at you

so even for a practical supposedly

hard-nosed businessman he's being really

dumb to do this what do you think the

intelligence Community would do if they

were most I don't

know I agree 100% what year was that

well when Trump was Trump was in when

Trump was talking about uh the

Department of Justice and how they're

all corrupt mind you just find out what

year that was I don't think that was

recent no of course it

was doesn't matter it was words he was

said January 9th of 2017 okay that's

when he first took office when he

started that's when Comey to Circle back

when Comey basically was his guy and

then got fired well when he said when

When Donald Trump came and said the

swamp the Deep State those are and that

little we with looking under his glasses

how can you even trust that that guy

represents Us in Congress and I think

listen pbd this this verdict doesn't

humiliate Trump it's a humiliation on

the country on the United States and for

all the people out there that that I

can't see this for what it is and are

like praising and celebrating like the

Don Lemons they are the problem okay and

Lady uh justice you guys know who Lady

Justice is Robbie that's so Pat this

this lady Justice this symbolizes

fairness and the judicial system and

she's blindfolded because it's

impartiality all right the scales are

the balance uh weights evidence to

ensure Fair judgments the sword

represents the power to enforce Justice

and the vices uh of Law and it's a she's

a woman embodies a virtue of moral

integrity and the robe is judicial

Authority it reflects the um salmony of

tradition and the legal system she is

that blindfold is off she is she's

finish because this just shows you how

everything everything that Trump said

the Deep State the People by the way

the Department of Justice is is done the

FBI is a joke the judges are bought and

and and paid for let me ask you a

question the Clinton with everything

that they've done Bill and Hillary how

many how many charges and how many

trials none zero I'm okay Hunter Biden

Joe Biden documents drugs crack guns how

many pbd Dr fouchy probably responsible

for Millions Tom how many PE how many

Bush Jr dick chainy everything that

these people have done with all the

deaths with all the blood and all the

stuff that they've done this is what

you're going to give the ex president 35

counts and these people are are happy in

the street it's a sad day pbd I'm so

happy that when he said you know how

we're going to do this that's a fighter

he said a November 4th that's how we're

going to show them that we're still

going to win and that's it cuz you said

this today you said this today the only

other way his his character

assassination now they're going after

his money they've knocked those two out

they will stop at nothing to stop this

guy because he's all for us he's been

saying it since day one and I've seen

videos Pat we've all seen this everybody

out there that's watching this have seen

videos of him in the 80s on Letterman on

Oprah all this guy has ever said is I

love America I love our country

everybody's screwing us China's screwing

us everybody's screwing us and now

you're seeing what they're doing to him

because he loves us let me ask you a

question let me ask you a question yeah

so Adam said 4% right I think we talked

about the 4% 4% on 75 million is what 3

million exactly it's 3 million people so

3,75 brings you to 72

okay in the middle today uh the question

that becomes how many

Democrats who maybe are on the opposite

side of the 4% who are like dude you've

just freaking completely lost it you're

an idiot I can't even believe you're

doing this are you freaking kidding me

over something like this I'm not a

Hillary person but this is ridiculous

what percentage of Democrats are now

coming like dude come on this is

embarrassing you're forcing me to not

vote okay so vote Trump go aways 4% I'm

not voting for Biden okay like I'm no no

meaning like I'm just stepping away

what's that percent I actually think the

people sitting this one out a couple

podcasts ago you know how they said 2020

was the most popular podcast of all uh

po popular election of all time 76% and

you said this is going to be least yes

okay I think the for the them side I

think it could be a dramatic drop of

people that don't want again case study

we don't know the stuff like we're going

to find out exactly what's going to

happen but I would be curious to know

what percentage are sitting this one out

because they're flat out sick of Biden

period Then in the middle take the

middle what percentage of the middle do

you think with this has gone this way

over this way what do you think it is

the middle right now is 20 points Tucker