Maddow joins colleagues in objecting to McDaniel for legitimizing Trump, attacking democracy

MSNBC
25 Mar 202412:30

Summary

TLDRThe transcript outlines concerns regarding the undermining of democratic processes in the United States, particularly focusing on Ronna Romney McDaniel's role in disputing the 2020 election results and promoting false narratives. It describes efforts to delegitimize American elections, challenging the integrity of the electoral system and democratic governance. The narrative also touches on the broader context of political and media responsibility, highlighting MSNBC's stance against hiring McDaniel due to her controversial actions. The text calls for vigilance and accountability in defending democratic values and institutions against ongoing threats and misinformation.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“ Ronna Romney McDaniel, as head of the Republican Party during Trump's time, actively participated in attempting to overturn election results.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ McDaniel's involvement included facilitating the submission of fake elector slates to Congress, aiming to dispute the 2020 election outcomes.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ Direct actions taken by McDaniel, under Trump's influence, included instructing Michigan officials not to certify the election results.
  • ๐Ÿค” The broader project was described as leveraging Republican Party's power to reject election results and maintain power by undermining democratic processes.
  • ๐Ÿ“– References to federal indictments highlight the legal scrutiny of these efforts, specifically citing McDaniel's personal appearance in related criminal cases.
  • ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ The ongoing narrative pushed by McDaniel and others aims to discredit the legitimacy of American elections, casting doubt on their integrity.
  • ๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ The script suggests a systemic attempt to prime the American public against accepting future election results, promoting a narrative of widespread election fraud.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฐ The role of the press is emphasized as crucial in defending democracy, with journalists urged to uphold their duty amidst threats to the democratic system.
  • ๐Ÿšซ MSNBC's leadership decision to not feature McDaniel on air reflects internal and public pushback against individuals involved in undermining democracy.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ The closing calls for accountability and the willingness to correct bad decisions as a sign of strength and commitment to democratic principles.

Q & A

  • Who is described as having contributed to the effort to send fake electors to Congress?

    -Ronna Romney McDaniel is described as having contributed to the effort by helping set in motion the part of the plot that involved sending fake Trump electors to Congress.

  • What specific action did Ronna McDaniel reportedly take in Michigan regarding the certification of election results?

    -In Michigan, Ronna McDaniel reportedly told the state explicitly in writing not to certify the election results and directed Michigan election officials not to certify the vote, offering to get lawyers.

  • What is the 'project' mentioned in the script, and what does it aim to achieve?

    -The 'project' mentioned aims to use the power of the Republican Party to reject election results, take over the government, and hold power by means other than democratic elections, challenging the legitimacy of the American election system.

  • How does the script characterize the ongoing efforts regarding the 2020 election and its aftermath?

    -The ongoing efforts are characterized as attempts to convince the American public that the 2020 election results were incorrect and to undermine faith in the American election system as a whole.

  • What role does the press play according to the script in the context of these events?

    -The press is seen as both reporting on these events and being a target of attack, with a critical role in defending democracy by upholding a free and uncowed press as essential to the democratic system.

  • What is the implication of hiring Ronna McDaniel by a news organization, as discussed in the script?

    -The hiring of Ronna McDaniel by a news organization is criticized as inexplicable and concerning, given her alleged involvement in efforts to undermine the election system, with the script advocating for reconsideration of such decisions.

  • What is the 'strongman' concept mentioned, and how does it relate to the current political situation?

    -The 'strongman' concept refers to a leader who seeks to consolidate power by undermining democratic institutions. It is used to describe efforts to replace democratic processes with authoritarian control, relating to the broader project of undermining elections.

  • How does the script view the role of political institutions and officials in the current challenges to democracy?

    -The script suggests that political institutions and officials face a critical choice between defending the American system of government and democratic values or supporting efforts that undermine democracy.

  • What reaction did MSNBC staff reportedly have to the hiring of Ronna McDaniel, and what was the outcome?

    -MSNBC staff reportedly expressed unanimous and instant outrage at the hiring of Ronna McDaniel, leading to MSNBC's leadership deciding that she will not appear on MSNBC air.

  • What is the script's stance on the importance of reversing bad decisions, especially in the context of defending democracy?

    -The script emphasizes the importance of recognizing, responding to legitimate criticism, and reversing bad decisions as a sign of strength and a necessary aspect of resilience in defending democracy.

Outlines

00:00

๐Ÿค” The Role of Ronna McDaniel in Election Controversy

This paragraph discusses the involvement of Ronna McDaniel, the head of the Republican Party during Donald Trump's tenure, in the efforts to challenge and overturn the 2020 election results. It highlights her role in sending fake Trump electors to Congress from states that Trump did not win, aiming to use these fraudulent elector slates to argue that Trump may have won those states. The script references McDaniel's appearance on pages 23 and 27 of the federal indictment charging Donald Trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, indicating her personal involvement in the ongoing criminal case. The paragraph also mentions her explicit direction to Michigan not to certify the election results, as reported by The Detroit News, and her part in a broader project to use the Republican Party's power to reject election results and hold onto power by other means.

05:02

๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Media's Responsibility and the Threat to Democracy

The second paragraph emphasizes the media's role in both reporting on and being part of the political landscape. It discusses the importance of a free and uncowed press for the functioning of democracy and the system of government. The script contrasts the media's non-personal defense against attacks with the necessity of standing up for the institution of the press to protect democracy. It also addresses the hiring of Ronna McDaniel by NBC News, which has been met with outrage from MSNBC staff, leading to her exclusion from their airwaves. The paragraph calls for a reversal of this decision, framing it as an issue of undermining elections and democracy, rather than a partisan or professional disagreement.

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๐Ÿšจ Challenging Times for Democracy and the Need for Correction

This paragraph reflects on the challenging times the country is facing, particularly in terms of threats to democracy. It highlights the need for clear-eyed recognition of the implications of these challenges. The script acknowledges that difficult times may lead to bad decisions and mistakes, but emphasizes the resilience of democracy in recognizing and reversing these errors. It calls for acknowledging when decisions are wrong, responding to legitimate criticism, and correcting course, rather than digging in and blaming others. The paragraph underscores the importance of this process as a sign of strength, not weakness, in maintaining the health of the democratic system.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กFake Electors

Fake electors refer to individuals who falsely claim to be official electors in the United States Electoral College system, representing a state's vote in a presidential election. In the context of the video, these fake electors were part of an alleged plot to overturn the 2020 election results by submitting fraudulent electoral slates to Congress, suggesting that Donald Trump won states he actually lost. This concept is crucial for understanding the accusations of conspiracy to defraud the United States, as it directly challenges the integrity of the election process and the peaceful transfer of power.

๐Ÿ’กConspiracy to Defraud

The term 'conspiracy to defraud' refers to an agreement between two or more parties to deceive or cheat another party or a legal authority, often to gain a dishonest advantage. In the video, Donald Trump and his associates, including Ronna Romney McDaniel, are accused of conspiring to defraud the United States by attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election results through unlawful means, such as the use of fake electors. This keyword is pivotal as it frames the actions described in the video within a legal context, highlighting the seriousness of the accusations.

๐Ÿ’กElection Integrity

Election integrity encompasses the accuracy, security, fairness, and transparency of the electoral process. The video underscores concerns about election integrity, referencing efforts to challenge and reject the 2020 election results. It suggests that these actions, portrayed as undermining democracy, cast doubt on the legitimacy of American elections and the democratic principle of respecting the voters' will. The discussion on election integrity is central to the video's theme, reflecting on the importance of trust in the electoral system for the stability of democracy.

๐Ÿ’กAmerican Democracy

American Democracy refers to the democratic governance system of the United States, characterized by a constitution, separation of powers, and free and fair elections. The video critically examines threats to American democracy, particularly the alleged efforts to overturn election results and undermine public trust in the electoral process. It positions these actions as antithetical to democratic values, emphasizing the importance of preserving democratic norms and institutions.

๐Ÿ’กRepublican Party

The Republican Party is one of the two major political parties in the United States. The video discusses the role of the Republican Party during Donald Trump's presidency and its alleged involvement in efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. It highlights the party's utilization of its power and influence in an attempt to reject election outcomes and maintain control, thereby raising questions about the party's commitment to democratic principles.

๐Ÿ’กFree Press

The free press is a cornerstone of democracy, providing the public with information, acting as a watchdog against abuses of power, and holding officials accountable. The video emphasizes the role of the press in defending democracy, particularly in the face of attacks and efforts to undermine it. It suggests that a strong and independent press is vital for the health of democracy, illustrating this point by defending journalists' rights and highlighting the importance of the First Amendment.

๐Ÿ’กAnti-Election Mythology

Anti-election mythology refers to the spread of false narratives and conspiracy theories questioning the legitimacy and integrity of elections. The video discusses how these narratives prime the American public to distrust future election results, potentially leading to the rejection of democratic outcomes and the embrace of authoritarian alternatives. This concept is critical for understanding the ongoing efforts to undermine confidence in the electoral process and its consequences for democracy.

๐Ÿ’กSystem of Government

The 'system of government' in the United States is based on the principles of democracy, including rule of law, separation of powers, and protection of civil liberties. The video expresses concern over attempts to overthrow this system by rejecting election results and undermining democratic norms. It emphasizes the importance of upholding the system of government to preserve the country's democratic values and stability.

๐Ÿ’กUndermining Elections

Undermining elections refers to actions that delegitimize the electoral process, spread disinformation about election results, or otherwise erode public trust in voting outcomes. The video highlights how such efforts, attributed to Donald Trump and his allies, pose a threat to democracy by casting doubt on the legitimacy of elections and encouraging the notion that elections are fraudulent or unreliable sources of political legitimacy.

๐Ÿ’กDemocratic Resilience

Democratic resilience refers to the capacity of a democratic system to withstand and recover from challenges to its integrity and function. The video calls for recognition of bad decisions, criticism, and the willingness to correct course as signs of democratic strength. It underscores the importance of resilience in the face of efforts to undermine democracy, emphasizing the role of various actors, including officials, the press, and citizens, in defending democratic principles and institutions.

Highlights

Ronna Romney McDaniel's involvement in the effort to overturn election results.

McDaniel's role in sending fake Trump electors to Congress.

McDaniel's appearance on federal indictment pages related to conspiring to defraud the United States.

McDaniel directing Michigan election officials not to certify the vote, reported by The Detroit News.

The project to use Republican Party power to reject election results and take over government.

The ongoing effort to discredit American elections and undermine democracy.

The need for Republican officials to decide their stance on the American system of government.

The challenge for judges and prosecutors to stand up for the system of government amidst threats.

The role of citizens in defending democracy against threats and violence.

The importance of a free and uncowed press for democracy.

MSNBC's decision to not feature Ronna McDaniel on their airwaves after staff expressed outrage.

The inexplicable decision by NBC News to hire McDaniel, criticized for undermining democracy.

The call for MSNBC leadership to reverse their decision on hiring McDaniel.

The challenge of covering elections and bad actors within the democracy.

The resilience of democracy in recognizing and correcting bad decisions.

Transcripts

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PITCHED IN TO HELP WHEN PUSH

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CAME TO SHOVE, WHEN WE GOT TO

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THE VIOLENT PART.

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THE PERSON WHO IS THE HEAD OF

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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DURING

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DONALD TRUMP'S TIME IN OFFICE

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AND DURING HIS EFFORT TO THROW

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OUT THE ELECTION RESULT AND STAY

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IN POWER ANY WAY, AND DURING HIS

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EFFORT TO RUN FOR ELECTION AGAIN

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AFTER HAVING DONE THAT IS RONNA

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ROMNEY McDANIEL.

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AND SHE PITCHED IN AND HELPED.

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SHE HELPED SET IN MOTION THE

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PART OF THE PLOT THAT INVOLVED

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SENDING FAKE TRUMP ELECTORS TO

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CONGRESS FROM STATES THAT TRUMP

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DID NOT WIN SO REPUBLICANS IN

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WASHINGTON COULD USE THOSE FAKE,

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FRAUDULENT ELECTOR SLATES TO

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CONTEND THAT MAYBE TRUMP DID WIN

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THOSE STATES, EVEN THOUGH HE

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DIDN'T.

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AND DON'T BELIEVE ME ON THAT.

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THERE SHE IS ON PAGE 23 AND PAGE

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27 OF THE FEDERAL INDICTMENT

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CHARGING DONALD TRUMP WITH

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CONSPIRING TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED

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STATES.

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THERE IS HER PERSONAL APPEARANCE

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IN THIS SCENE OF THE CRIME AS

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DEPARTMENT IN THIS ONGOING

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CRIMINAL CASE.

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IN MICHIGAN, WHERE THE FAKE

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ELECTORS ARE THEMSELVES NOW ON

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TRIAL, SHE TOLD THE STATE OF

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MICHIGAN IN WRITING EXPLICITLY,

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DO NOT CERTIFY THE ELECTION

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RESULTS.

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THE DETROIT NEWS HAS REPORTED

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THAT WITH DONALD TRUMP ON THE

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PHONE WITH HER, SHE DIRECTED

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MICHIGAN ELECTION OFFICIALS TO

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NOT CERTIFY THE VOTE.

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SHE TOLD THEM, QUOTE, DO NOT

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SIGN IT.

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WE WILL GET YOU LAWYERS.

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SHE PITCHED IN.

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SHE WAS PART OF THE PROJECT.

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AND WHAT WAS THE PROJECT?

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IT WAS TO USE THE POWER OF THE

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REPUBLICAN PARTY, REPUBLICAN

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OFFICIALS IN THE STATES,

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REPUBLICAN OFFICE HOLDERS IN

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WASHINGTON, THE NATIONAL

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REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SHE RUNS

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TO USE THE PARTY'S POWER TO

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REJECT ELECTION RESULTS TO TAKE

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OVER THE GOVERNMENT AND HOLD

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POWER BY OTHER MEANS.

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AND THIS PROJECT IS NOW ONGOING,

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RIGHT.

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NOW THE PROJECT IS TO TELL THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THOSE

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EFFORTS ARE ON THE 2020 ELECTION

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WERE RIGHTEOUS.

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THAT 2020 ELECTION, IT WASN'T

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OKAY.

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THOSE ELECTION RESULTS WERE NOT

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CORRECT.

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WE SHOULDN'T BELIEVE AMERICAN

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ELECTIONS.

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WE SHOULDN'T BELIEVE AMERICAN

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ELECTIONS ARE REAL ELECTIONS.

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AMERICAN ELECTION RESULTS SHOULD

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NOT BE SEEN AS REAL.

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THEY SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED.

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THAT'S THE PROJECT NOW.

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IT DIDN'T WORK TO OVERTHROW THE

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GOVERNMENT LAST TIME; BUT AS

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LONG AS YOU CAN BUILD ON THAT

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FIRST EFFORT, AS LONG AS YOU CAN

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KEEP UP THE ANTI-ELECTION

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MYTHOLOGY, THEN YOU ARE PRIMING

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YOUR PEOPLE, YOU'RE PRIMING THE

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AMERICAN PUBLIC TO NOT ACCEPT

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THE RESULTS OF THE NEXT ELECTION

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EITHER.

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YOU'RE TELLING THEM THAT THEY'RE

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GOING TO NEED TO TAKE POWER BY

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OTHER MEANS, BECAUSE THE

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ELECTION ISN'T GOING TO BE HOW

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WE DO IT ANYMORE.

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YOU'RE ALSO PRIMING PEOPLE,

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HONESTLY, TO VOTE TO GIVE UP

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THIS SUPPOSED DEMOCRACY WE HAVE

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BECAUSE WHAT GOOD IS IT ANY WAY,

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IG

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ALL RIGHT.

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SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY LOSING IF

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WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING LOSE THIS?

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WHO CARES.

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ELECTIONS ARE FRAUDULENT HERE

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ANY WAY.

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WHO CARES IF WE GIVE THEM UP.

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RONNA McDANIEL HAS BEEN PITCHING

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IN ON THAT, CONTINUING TO SAY

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SINCE 2020 THAT THAT ELECTION

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WASN'T RIGHT, THAT THE AMERICAN

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PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT

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VOTE WASN'T REAL, AND THAT IS A

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MESSAGE NOT ONLY ABOUT 2020, BUT

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ABOUT THIS NEXT ELECTION.

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AND ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT

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ELECTIONS SHOULD MATTER AT ALL,

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AND WHETHER WE SHOULD BOTHER

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HAVING THEM AT ALL.

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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GETTING

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BEHIND THAT MESSAGE IS A CHOICE.

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I MEAN TRUMP HIMSELF IS GOING TO

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DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

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WE'VE ALWAYS HAD GUYS LIKE

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TRUMP.

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SOMETIMES THEY WEAR RIDICULOUS

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LITTLE UNIFORMS.

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WE'VE ALWAYS HAD GUYS LIKE THAT.

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WE'VE NEVER BEFORE HAD A BIG

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STORIED, IMPORTANT AMERICAN

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POLITICAL INSTITUTION EMBRACE A

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GUY LIKE THAT.

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EVEN WHEN IT CAME TO

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OVERTHROWING THE AMERICAN SYSTEM

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OF GOVERNMENT.

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AND IN A TIME LIKE THIS, IT'S

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HARD, RIGHT.

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THIS IS A CHALLENGING AND

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WORRYING TIME.

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REPUBLICAN OFFICIALS HAVE TO

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FIGURE OUT WHETHER THEY'RE GOING

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TO STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN

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SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT OR NOT.

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REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS, CONGRESS

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HAS TO DECIDE IF IT'S GOING TO

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ASSERT ITS OWN RELEVANCE.

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THEY'RE GOING TO ASSERT THEIR

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OWN INDEPENDENCE, THEIR OWN ROLE

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IN THE GOVERNMENT, STAND UP FOR

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OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, OR

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NOT.

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JUDGES AND PROSECUTORS HAVE TO

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DECIDE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE

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BRAVER THAN THEY EVER THOUGHT

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THEY'D HAVE TO BE IN THIS JOB.

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THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER

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THEY'RE GOING STAND UP TO THE

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THREATS AND THE VIOLENCE.

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AND NEVERTHELESS, BE

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INDEPENDENT, BE FEARLESS, STAND

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UP FOR THEIR OWN INDEPENDENCE,

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AND THEREBY STAND UP FOR OUR

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SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT.

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REGULAR CITIZENS HAVE TO DECIDE

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IF WE'RE GOING TO BRAVE THE

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THREATS AND THE VIOLENCE TO STAY

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INVOLVED IN POLITICS.

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TO WORK FOR CAMPAIGNS, TO

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VOLUNTEER AS ELECTION WORKERS,

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DESPITE ALL THE THREATS, ALL THE

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ATTACKS, ALL THE VIOLENCE, TO

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STAND UP FOR OUR SYSTEM OF

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GOVERNMENT.

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AND THEN THERE IS THE PRESS.

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WHICH IS BOTH REPORTING ON ALL

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OF THIS AND IS ALSO A PART OF

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IT.

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BECAUSE JUST AS A STRONGMAN

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NEEDS TO CONTROL THE JUDICIAL

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BRANCH OR GET RID OF IT, NEEDS

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TO CONTROL THE CONGRESS OR GET

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RID OF IT, NEEDS TO CONTROL THE

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POLITICAL OPPOSITION OR GET RID

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OF IT, WHAT THE STRONGMAN MOST

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DESIRES BEFORE ALL OF THAT, THE

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NECESSARY PRECURSOR TO ALL OF

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THAT IS TO CONTROL THE FREE

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PRESS, OR GET RID OF IT.

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AND YOU KNOW, IN THE PRESS, WE

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DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY WHEN

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WE GET ATTACKED, WHEN THEY SAY

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THEY WANT TO PUT US ON TRIAL AND

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EXECUTE US FOR TREASON.

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WE DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

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BUT WE DO DEFEND OURSELVES AS AN

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INSTITUTION.

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NOT BECAUSE WE'RE PERSONALLY

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OFFENDED BY THE WAY THAT WE'RE

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TREATED, BUT BECAUSE A FREE AND

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UNCOWED PRESS IS NECESSARY FOR

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OUR DEMOCRACY.

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A FREE AND UNCOWED PRESS IS PART

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OF OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT.

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WE STAND UP FOR OURSELVES AS A

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WAY OF STANDING UP FOR OUR

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COUNTRY AND FOR OUR

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CONSTITUTION.

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THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO WHICH

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MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO

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EXIST AT ALL.

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AND SO I WANT TO ASSOCIATE

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MYSELF WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES

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BOTH AT MSNBC AND AT NBC NEWS

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WHO HAVE VOICED LOUD AND

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PRINCIPLED OBJECTIONS TO OUR

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COMPANY PUTTING ON THE PAYROLL

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SOMEONE WHO HASN'T JUST ATTACKED

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US AS JOURNALISTS, BUT SOMEONE

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WHO IS PART OF AN ONGOING

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PROJECT TO GET RID OF OUR SYSTEM

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OF GOVERNMENT.

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SOMEONE WHO STILL IS TRYING TO

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CONVINCE AMERICANS THAT THIS

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ELECTION STUFF, IT DOESN'T

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REALLY WORK, THAT THIS LAST

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ELECTION, IT WASN'T A REAL

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RESULT.

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THAT AMERICAN ELECTIONS ARE

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FRAUDULENT.

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BECAUSE THAT ARGUMENT, THAT IS A

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NECESSARY PART THAT IS THE MOST

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NECESSARY PART OF THE OVERALL

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PROJECT OF GETTING US AS

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AMERICANS TO GIVE UP ON THIS

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ELECTION STUFF.

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BECAUSE WOULDN'T WE RATHER HAVE

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A REAL MAN IN CHARGE ANY WAY,

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SOMEBODY WHO COULD REALLY GET

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SOME STUFF DONE.

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IF ONLY WE CAN CLEAR AWAY ALL

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THE THINGS IN HIS WAY.

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WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS

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COUNTRY OF FORGETTABLE MEN

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TELLING US THAT WE NEED A NEW

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SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT WHERE

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EVERYTHING IS UNDER THEIR

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CONTROL AND POLITICS IS OVER,

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AND THIS NEW STRONGMAN WAY OF

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GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO MAKE

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AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

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WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF THESE GUYS.

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BUT OUR GENERATION'S VERSION OF

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THIS GUY HAS GOTTEN A LOT

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FARTHER THAN ALL THE REST OF

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THEM.

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AND WHY IS THAT?

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HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AS FORGOTTEN

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AS ALL THE REST OF THEM HAD HE

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NOT BEEN ABLE TO ATTACH HIMSELF

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TO AN INSTITUTION LIKE THE

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REPUBLICAN PARTY AND HAD THE

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LEADER OF THAT PARTY IN HIS TIME

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NOT DECIDE THAT SHE WOULD ABIDE

08:00

HIM, SHE WOULD HELP.

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SHE WOULD HELP WITH THE WORST OF

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IT.

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IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT

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MSNBC'S LEADERSHIP DID NOT

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OBJECT TO RONNA McDANIEL BEING

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HIRED BY NBC NEWS WHEN THE

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MATTER FIRST AROSE, BUT WHEN THE

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HIRING WAS ANNOUNCED, AND MSNBC

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STAFF ESSENTIALLY UNANIMOUSLY

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AND INSTANTLY EXPRESSED OUTRAGE,

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OUR LEADERSHIP AT MSNBC HEARD

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US, UNDERSTOOD, AND ADJUSTED

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COURSE.

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WE WERE TOLD THIS WEEKEND IN

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CLEAR TERMS RONNA McDANIEL WILL

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NOT BE ON OUR AIR.

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RONNA McDANIEL WILL NOT BE ON

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MSNBC.

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AND I SAY THAT AND GIVE YOU THAT

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LEVEL OF DETAIL BECAUSE THERE

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HAS BEEN AN EFFORT SINCE BY

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OTHER PARTS OF THE COMPANY TO

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MUDDY THAT UP IN THE PRESS AND

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MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THAT'S NOT

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WHAT HAPPENED AT MSNBC.

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I CAN ASSURE YOU, THAT IS WHAT

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HAPPENED AT MSNBC.

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RONNA McDANIEL WILL NOT APPEAR

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ON MSNBC, SO SAYS OUR BOSS SINCE

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SATURDAY.

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AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN ANYTHING

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OTHER THAN CLEAR.

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AND I WILL ALSO SAY IF YOU CARE

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WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS, I WILL

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TELL YOU THE FACT THAT MS.

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McDANIEL IS ON THE PAYROLL AT

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NBC NEWS, TO ME THAT IS AN

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INEXPLICABLE.

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YOU WOULDN'T -- YOU WOULDN'T

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HIRE A WISEGUY, YOU WOULDN'T

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HIRE A MADE MAN LIKE A MOBSTER

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TO WORK AT A D.A.'S OFFICE,

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RIGHT?

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YOU WOULDN'T HIRE A PICK POCKET

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TO WORK AS A TSA SCREENER.

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AND SO I FIND THE DECISION TO

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PUT HER ON THE PAYROLL

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INEXPLICABLE.

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AND I HOPE THEY WILL REVERSE

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THEIR DECISION.

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AND IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

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DEMOCRATIC PARTY, REPUBLICAN

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PARTY.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT PARTNERSHIP.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT RIGHT VERSUS

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LEFT.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING A POLITICAL

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PROFESSIONAL VERSUS SOME OTHER

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KINDS OF PERSON.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING MEAN OR

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NICE TO JOURNALISTS.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST BEING

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ASSOCIATED WITH DONALD TRUMP AND

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HIS TIME AND THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY.

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IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT LYING OR NOT

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LYING.

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IT'S ABOUT OUR SYSTEM OF

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GOVERNMENT AND UNDERMINING

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ELECTIONS AND GOING AFTER

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DEMOCRACY AS AN ONGOING PROJECT,

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RIGHT.

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AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR

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US AS A COUNTRY, AND I THINK

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THAT MEANS WE NEED TO BE

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CLEAR-EYED ABOUT THE

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IMPLICATIONS OF IT.

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DIFFICULT TIMES MAKE FOR

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DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

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WE ARE CONTENDING WITH SOMETHING

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WE'VE NEVER HAD TO CONTEND WITH

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BEFORE.

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IN THE NEWS BUSINESS, YES, WE

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ARE COVERING AN ELECTION, WHICH

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WE DO ALL THE TIME.

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BUT WE'RE ALSO COVERING BAD

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ACTORS TRYING TO USE THE RIGHTS

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AND PRIVILEGES OF THE DEMOCRACY

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TO END DEMOCRACY.

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THE CHIEF THREAT AMONG THEM NOW

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IS NOT THE RIOTERS AND THE COOK

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KOOKS, BUT THE SLICK POLITICAL

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PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE TURNING

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THEIR ATTENTION THAT ELECTION

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RESULTS AREN'T REAL AND THEY

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SHOULDN'T BE RESPECTED.

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WE ARE CONTENDING WITH THIS NOW

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NOT FROM WILLIAM DUDLEY PELLEY'S

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BROWN SHIRT MILITIAS, RIGHT, BUT

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FROM THE MULTIBILLION MASSIVE

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POLITICAL OPERATION OF ONE OF

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THE TWO GOVERNING PARTIES OF THE

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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AND THAT'S NEW.

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AND WITH OUR COUNTRY UP AGAINST

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SOMETHING THAT DAUNTING AND THAT

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SCARY AND THAT DANGEROUS FOR THE

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COUNTRY, I THINK BAD DECISIONS

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WILL INEVITABLY HAPPEN.

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MISTAKES WILL BE MADE.

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BUT PART OF OUR RESILIENCE AS A

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DEMOCRACY IS GOING TO BE

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RECOGNIZING, US RECOGNIZING WHEN

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DECISIONS ARE BAD ONES.

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AND REVERSING THOSE BAD

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DECISIONS.

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HEARING INGING LEGITIMATE CRITIC

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RESPONDING TO IT AND CORRECTING

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COURSE.

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NOT DIGGING IN, NOT BLAMING

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OTHERS.

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TAKE A MINUTE.

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ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAYBE IT WASN'T

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THE RIGHT CALL.

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IT IS THE SIGN OF STRENGTH, NOT

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WEAKNESS TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU

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ARE WRONG.