SBF Sentenced, Diddy Grooming Allegations & Trump Civil Suit w/ Alina Habba | PBD Podcast | Ep. 386

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one okay episode 386 folks there's so

many different weird legal things going

on having to do with law lawyers you

know these lawyers how they are they

know the law and you need to talk to

them to educate us on what's going on

today we have uh probably the most

famous lawyer in America today that you

see on TV pretty much every week and she

likes to fight I don't know why she

likes fights she likes picking fights

she likes it when they pick fights

against her but she doesn't back down we

have the great Alina habba in the house

today how are you Alina hi I'm good it's

been a long time we haven't seen you for

a long time everything good A little

busy yeah that's good very good but no

uh obviously we got a lot of stories

guys we're going to be going through

today for sure want to get an update

with what's happening with the president

Trump with all the different uh legal

battles uh uh Tom I think you just gave

a uh uh update this morning that the SP

SPF case the judge is the same judge

that was on the Ean Carroll case if I'm

not mistaken that's correct so it'll be

interesting to see how he handles that

that you know with SPF would get you get

some of your feedback on that then

there's this guy I don't know if you've

heard of him this guy's name is Puff

Daddy P Diddy he uh he's going through

some legal issues we have some videos of

a guy that uh he claims other people

like it his way what's his name uh uh I

think his name is Usher if I'm not

mistaken right he has a video that came

out talking about Diddy there's a couple

Justin Bieber videos which we'll show

Rob I'm sure you have and then aside

from that we have some stories from

ronom Daniel she got paid uh highest

paid person on NBC apparently 20 minutes

she she was getting paid $30,000 an hour

can you imagine Neo a contract like that

she gets paid $30,000 an hour we'll tell

you the math on how that worked out stay

tuned you'll see why it's

$330,000 an hour it take a few minutes

to fully see what's going on there

Pennsylvania voter ballot you know all

of a sudden is saying we need to know

the dates we need to all the information

so some people are not happy some people

are happy but it's progress towards

actual

accountability with um property with uh

what do you call it with voting and then

John Stewart you know everybody's

talking about how much you know

president Trump overvalued his

properties some data came up that John

Stewart is apparently a big fan of

Trump's uh you know philosophy and he

also increased his home value labeling

it you know overvalued by

829 John what a capitalist what a

capital what a capitalist the great John

everybody does it we all

get 29 Tish we we'll we'll find out in

by the way did you guys hear about the

warnings from FBI did you did you see

the warning about this weekend this is

serious warnings from FBI saying Hamas

is planning on attacking different like

an a 911 type of attack this weekend

literally I'll show you the video that's

being shown and they're they're they're

targeting uh Jewish I think

it's uh uh anyways they're targeting

Christian churches you'll see what it is

the update will be given I have the

video I'll sh that with you guys Easter

weekend A lot of people be in churches

yes I I have some stuff on that and then

uh uh I'll show you one clip on who

Nickelodeon is thinking about their new

CEO I think it's very important for you

guys see who's going to be Nickelodeon's

first CEO great and then Alex Jones had

scho on I don't know if you saw this

Alex Jones had the

rabbi and they were going back and forth

it's a little awkward it's a little bit

uncomfortable but he's a rabbi so we

have to watch it to see what you his

Holiness very very important what's

going on with that so anyways and we got

a few other stories having said that

Alina what is the latest with President

Trump's case obviously everybody for the

longest time was saying Monday Monday

it's going to happen Monday

454 he's going to have to pay if he

doesn't seize his assets you know the

view I can't wait I want to see that you

know seizing his assets and the property

I want to see all of that stuff what is

the latest what's been happening so

we're winning and I always tell people

you know this is the long game okay we

are in a corrupt system there's no

question about it so people love to say

look he's gonna get we're gonna go over

there and Tish James is going to take

the keys to Trump Tower I think uh

whoopy Goldberg and all of them got

excited about putting a chain around

Trump Tower and literally were were

taunting um it was a really pathetic

site actually and uh it didn't happen

why because the appal division read our

papers saw that there are reasons for a

stay saw that it absolutely is

ridiculous to have somebody lose an

asset while the Appel division hasn't

had an opportunity to look at the

injustices look at the decision making

that was so flawed and frankly the

motivation on this case was flawed she

was motivated to bring this case before

she was even in office that's what she

ran on Miss James so that in itself

selective prosecution happens to be

illegal it shouldn't happen um

look they stay it they dropped it they

said we're not taking assets everything

is Frozen not only and this is one thing

that nobody talks about they didn't just

say you're not paying that amount of

money which by the way is almost close

to a billion dollars with a bond because

you have to pay 10% more plus you have

to pay interest the judges said no we're

stopping everything you're not enforcing

this you're going to put 175 mil which

is still crazy in a bank but we're also

not enforcing any decision against the

defendants not to to be able to work in

New York and real estate we're also not

enforcing the decisions against Alan

weiselberg Jeff M people that did

nothing wrong that were working for a

company and did their job and truly did

nothing wrong nobody did um and every

single part of that decision from

judging Goran that Twisted weird

decision weird looking guy he every

single thing was put on hold everything

while we have the opportunity now to say

this is what I was screaming about

outside the courtroom steps every day

you know so we're on hold and and I mean

we're on hold for an expensive price but

at least we're seeing a little bit of

you know due process and and sense how

come up with the 175 million I don't

know um I I have no idea you know it

wasn't in there there wasn't any

qualification Alina are they starting to

figure out that this tactic that they're

using is not it's like it's done it's

not going to work we could call the DNC

and ask them I'm not sure you know I I

don't understand how they couldn't see

that they're overreaching

has really hurt them because Donald

Trump has always been famous he has

always been a very smart businessman

which is why I think he's a very good

president he attacks things from a

business perspective which I think some

presidents and some politicians frankly

do lack that that experience right um

and because of that they've attacked him

so badly that now you've taken a

billionaire and made him sympathetic

because you're hurt you're trying trying

to hurt him it's so obvious that now

we've got people from the left the

middles they're coming to our side and

saying who this is just too much you

know they're going to do this to me what

am I going to do I don't have habba

outside screaming you know what are you

going to do and that's been my message

always is um you know they're doing it

to him but they'll do it to us they'll

do it to me I'm sure they'll do it to

everybody and that's what scares me so

that's that's really it's the motivation

is really not just president Trump it's

America so let me ask you this so This

175 we're talking about okay it has to

be in an account fine he gets puts that

cash no problem if if we size up the

enemy of President Trump as being

deceptive dark divisive uh willing to do

anything to eliminate him as a candidate

going into 2024 November 5th anything

they can do right to spin the story and

say look at him now he's part of the

establishment he's going to New York

begging people for money Wall Street all

this stuff if if that was the case he

still got a few more cases open is it is

it possible that they may come up and

say yeah for this one you have to pay

$280 million this one's going to be $73

million another $128 million another 199

can they keep doing this between now and

October to just really deplete all of

his

savings so look the reality is he's an

incredibly wealthy man um he his wealth

like all wealthy individuals that have

intelligence is being put to work it's

in buildings it's in real estate it's in

hotels it's in golf um they're not you

know whatever they're going to try and

do they forget who they're dealing with

number one but realistically Patrick

what we do have in front of us is really

not the civil suits the civil suits uh

we're already done and if if you what

you're asking I believe already happened

we had the Carol lawsuit he got hit with

an insane and that and that was a suit

that I obviously did um we had already

lost prior and

we have not been heard on Appeal on that

first loss this is the 83.3 milon 83.3

million that was the first one which

actually turns out to be 91 million when

you look at it with the bond okay with

the 10% you have to put 10% on top

people think you put 10% into the court

you put the entire amount plus 10% into

the Appel division so it's a number that

the Court gives plus 10% plus the

interest on the bond plus whatever they

get in fees it's plus plus plus so we

already got that hit I did that trial 2

weeks after uh Leticia James trial ended

I was on that trial for 4 months the

judge Eng Goran waited to put his

decision until after the jury came out

with Carol so we had that happen we had

that happen it was 91 million and then

Tish James her original complaint if you

look was $250 million in the middle of

the trial towards the end she changes it

and says now I want more not because the

fact facts were bad frankly the facts

were good Deutsche Bank came took the

stance that he was a whale of the client

we actually wanted him because we wanted

his connections Zurich still ensures us

you know all these things the judge

didn't care Tish asked for more he gave

exactly what she wanted there was no

consideration for Witnesses or facts or

law it's all crazy and come with so it

was 91 then 375 they're out of thin air

their own expert said even if we looked

at the what this judge is saying is an

over

okay he's also saying marago is 18

million yeah okay so sure if you think

Maraga is worth 18 million well there's

about over a billion dollars of of over

it's ridiculous there is no way if

maro's 18 million we should all buy it

tomorrow and flip it and we'll all be

we'll all be worth hundreds of millions

of dollars I mean it's crazy but if you

look at it that way yeah that was

already planned Patrick that's what they

did they did 91 then they did 375 375

becomes more like 600 million so they

were trying to take it by the way

remember Tish asked for his statements

asked for financials she changed the

number based on what cash he had it's

dis it's there's 0% question in my mind

that's what happened so so Lena if you

ask that like the average person that

doesn't know about law doesn't know

about all this and they're looking at

from the outside looking in even left or

right and they're saying to themselves

how the hell are they getting away with

this and nobody's saying anything in the

legal World in government and Congress

so somebody should be like all right

guys time out besides I don't care what

the hell who the person is what are you

guys doing this is blatantly obvious

that it's a tactic to try to take like

keep them off the ballot it's ridiculous

it's ridiculous but I think that I think

that we have a problem with

accountability with the Democrat side

and I'm not sure we figured out how to

tackle them we have to I think president

Trump um would make everything even

Stephen when he gets back into office I

think that what we have to deal with is

exactly that we've got we could keep

talking about it I could go on TV every

day and talk about how we White House

logs that came out while I was on trial

I'm sitting in the back room and I find

out that there were White House logs

that Tish James visited the White House

yeah before and after the complaint was

filed what how was that not on the news

if I didn't have such a loud mouth

people wouldn't hear the truth so so I'm

looking at it and I'm going what how is

this possible and it didn't get covered

it didn't get covered I mean who that

public info if I right now wanted to

find out that she's visited the White

House that that's public I could see

yeah yeah it's crazy so I I'm looking at

it and I'm saying how do we hold them

accountable well these are elected

officials you know we had people there

we have gag orders being put on us how

is that okay gag orders on lawyers yeah

imagine I go to court I'm your lawyer

you and the judge says Hab no no you

can't talk about a couple things here

what how about the Carol Keys the judge

asked me the questions I was going to

ask my client in public in front of the

media before he took the stand and then

ask me what his answers would be I was

like excuse

me nobody talks about it transcript ask

for the trans it's there it's crazy yeah

this is judicial activism at its worst

judicial activism is where the judge is

sort of acting as a lobbyist on behalf

of a political side and in civil cases

it can run a muck as long as you get a

dirty judge at least at the federal

level you know you have Federal

sentencing guidelines right which was

that that a sentence will be this much

might be this much and can be extended

to this much on the circumstances that

that that the uh you know the the that

basically the AGS first States or

whatever that are participating and

remand things like to this southern

district of New York for business and it

looks terrible and they say okay well

then your guidelines here but you're

going to get this but for civil Vinnie

civil can run a m all you need is a bad

dirty judge he puts a gag order here he

impunes a witness here he prevents us

here he suppresses us here and you're

literally a puppet and you feel like

you're in the middle of Congress during

a debate for a bill rather than in the

halls of Justice with rules and

regulations we're we are supposed to

have you know the executive the judicial

and then legislative legislative is

where we run a muck until we figure it

out judicial were supposed to have

procedures and laws and standards and

things that go in there this didn't

happen they basically decided that the

civil case they were going to run it

like a political campaign and for

everybody listening that's what you

should think about about here that that

the Trump cases were run like a

political campaign by a filthy corrupt

judicial they are politically motivated

and there were things that were done

that I know Were Meant to make me look

stupid and you know uh judges

admonishing me telling me to sit down in

front of a jury um the way they spoke

there was nothing I was doing

procedurally or in evidence rules that

was wrong now the Press covered it that

way because the judge made them think

and would say things like you should

read the evidence rules and I'm looking

and I'm saying well I'm trying to be an

ethical lawyer here and respectful um

but I can't I you can't really talk back

to a right especially when a judge is

telling you they're going to throw you

in jail um which happened on the Carol

Case imagine in a civil case because I

objected to a PowerPoint slide that I

wanted in and he said is not coming in

the PowerPoint slide literally proved

everything I had said in the case it

said that look if somebody tweets

something and president Trump doesn't

acknowledge it for 5 hours but they're

getting hate from trolls how can you

blame president Trump for defamation

that slide was taken out I was not

allowed to bring it in and the jury

couldn't see it but the judge the way

they do it he did it in front of the

press he didn't do it in Chambers he

does it so that people start to have

this narrative oh she's not a good

lawyer oh she's not bright oh she's not

this and that said he's going to throw

you in jail yeah yeah the weird guy so

question was did you guys file any

motion against Leticia James for all the

all the videos and all the rhetoric of

I'm going to go after Trump how is that

not a conflict of interest to get her

taking off the case so so her being on

the case is different than Fanny Willis

okay so Tish James actually doesn't do

the cases she's a figurehead effectively

right so she's got a team that we dealt

with for three years and that team tried

the case she would show up she would sit

in the back she would have her coffee

she wasn't really trying the case now

she was giving the directives she was

giving the directives much like mer

Garland of them right but did we argue

selective prosecution 100 times did we

argue that she persecuted prosecuted

president Trump to get into office said

it before that it was improper that she

was unethical all those things 100 times

was it covered no just like her at the

just like her going to the White House

to visit I what I want to ask is how

they come up with these numbers and

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you you go to appraisal school okay

you're going to get certified uh how do

you appraise a property here's how you

do it the math formula is this based on

this divided by this times this compared

in the last comps of the last 3 months 6

months the comps that are from the last

three months have more credibility than

coms from the last 12 months versus the

last two years and then if you take this

formula you come up with exactly around

a 98% accuracy on what should be this

property is worth $1.36 million Great Is

there a formula these judges that have

this much power that they have to go

through to no there is no formula there

there used to be I'd love to hear your

point on it there used to be relative

standards like you look at personal

injury okay how many days of work did

you lose what do you earn on your income

what was that so what is the direct

calculable compensatory damages but then

this whole thing comes in there of pain

and suffering how do you measure that

you measure that on how far John Edwards

can push a jury remember that

presidential candidate that was his

business and then what you go through is

almost like the punitive side where I

award the victim basically a fine

against the company that made the

defective product and that can go to the

Moon based on the heart of the of juries

and judges and they do whatever they

want it's it's all in the courtroom

skill and this this company deserves to

pay goes beyond how many days did you

miss work and what is the some sort of

implied pain and suffering that we can

get our arms around yeah that's 100%

what happened so and don't forget people

say well there was a jury well yeah but

the jury like I said is under the

directive of the judge and the jury

before they deliberate gets jury

instructions that the judge determines

what goes in what goes out so we can

argue about it but the judge has the

final say so the judge is directing

traffic so people have to remember that

inoran didn't have a jury he didn't have

a jury not cuz I forgot to check a box

he didn't have a jury because he decided

there was not going to be a jury he

decided it was an equitable 6312 and I'm

getting too much in the weeds probably

for the non- lawyers but he used a they

used a Consumer Fraud statute okay

Consumer Fraud is when a Verizon an AT&T

is Sir charging everybody on their bills

2 cents more than they should have of

Consumer Fraud Leticia James steps in

this is what she's supposed to do as the

AG and protects the state of New York

constituents takes care of it sues AT&T

and says hey we don't like this it's

like what's going on with apple right

now okay the the doj is going after

Apple saying you can't have a monopoly

so those are Consumer Fraud statutes she

used a Consumer Fraud statute against a

private company and a private individual

because after three years she didn't

have anything so instead she said okay I

can't find an actual fraud I can't find

so after 3 years of

Investigation I'm going to have to use a

Consumer Fraud statute by doing that the

judge didn't have to give us a jury okay

and their own experts didn't come up

with numbers like 375 their own experts

the the baddest people they could find

couldn't get to that number and the

judge gave Leticia James everything and

more than she asked that's what happened

it it was so mindboggling but of course

my logo's 18 million of course in a

small way what if you have 100 mph

speeding ticket okay the law says you're

going to lose your license for 6 months

but what is the fine and court cost if

you are an

18-year-old arrogant kid rolling your

eyes and looking at the judge that could

go from 1,000 to 2500 just like this

because the judge feels that you or not

are sufficiently you know um feeling the

pain penitent in front of the judge

the proed the judge do you know what I'm

going to charge you $1,000 cost the last

woman on something could have been 30

but the judge has latitude but remember

there's no jury in a speeding case she

effectively turned it in to a consumer

fraud case where it's one judge acting

as Arbiter not a full process with the

jury am I summarizing that 100% And by

the way this was if it was a commercial

Consumer Fraud statute it should have

been in the commercial Vision we asked

that it be moved as it normally would we

went to the Head judge we said this

should not stay with this guy he doesn't

understand 6312 this is not his purview

he's a local state guy he shouldn't be

he's not the commercial division he's

Civil Division so they now use the 63 of

appropriate jurisdiction so now we got

6312 wow in front of a judge that

doesn't typically do it because they

wanted to keep him on because he was so

good to them for 3 years and it all was

coordinated so now in front of a judge

trying to explain to him something that

frankly is not in his

wheelhouse and you could tell by the

comment I mean this guy got overturned

if you look at his history for one of

the worst landlord tenant decisions in