DIDDY DONE? GRAND JURY LOOMS

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
3 Apr 202443:10

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the disturbing comparisons between Sean 'Diddy' Combs and Jeffrey Epstein, focusing on allegations of sexual misconduct and abuse of power. It delves into the potential involvement of Combs' associates, the use of hidden cameras, and the possibility of a grand jury indictment. The conversation also touches on the impact of such scandals on the victims and the bravery required for them to come forward.

Takeaways

  • πŸ” The transcript discusses comparisons between Sean 'Diddy' Combs and Jeffrey Epstein, highlighting allegations of sexual misconduct and abuse of power.
  • 🏠 The investigation into Diddy involves his multiple properties across the United States, where hidden cameras are alleged to have captured potential evidence of wrongdoing.
  • 🚨 Diddy's response to the allegations has been defiant, maintaining his innocence and continuing his public life as if unaffected by the ongoing investigation.
  • πŸŽ₯ Surveillance footage may play a significant role in the case, with potentially thousands of hours of video from various locations linked to Diddy.
  • πŸ’° Financial aspects of the case are also discussed, including Diddy's wealth, properties, and the possibility of financial pressure leading to potential witnesses cooperating with investigators.
  • πŸ”— The network of individuals connected to Diddy is vast, with many potential witnesses and co-conspirators who could be called to testify in front of a grand jury.
  • πŸ”Ž The legal strategy for prosecuting such a case likely involves flipping lower-level individuals to gain testimony against Diddy and his associates.
  • 🀝 The importance of cooperation from witnesses, such as former partners or employees, is emphasized as crucial for building a strong case against Diddy.
  • 🚨 The potential impact of the case on Diddy's empire, including his record label, clothing line, and liquor line, is considered, especially if legal fees and property mortgages become overwhelming.
  • πŸ›‘οΈ The defense strategy for Diddy may involve discrediting witnesses and leveraging his popularity and influence to sway a potential jury in his favor.
  • 🌟 The bravery of victims coming forward in such high-profile cases is highlighted, emphasizing the personal risks and trauma they face in seeking justice.

Q & A

  • What are the similarities being drawn between Sean 'Diddy' Combs and Jeffrey Epstein?

    -The similarities being drawn between Sean 'Diddy' Combs and Jeffrey Epstein involve allegations of using their fame, fortune, and privilege to engage in the abuse and mistreatment of young women. Both individuals are accused of having a network of people working for them to facilitate obtaining and exploiting young girls, with Epstein having Ghislaine Maxwell as a key figure and Combs allegedly having his staff involved.

  • What is the significance of the 1999 New York nightclub shooting incident involving Sean 'Diddy' Combs, Jennifer Lopez, and Jamal 'Shyne' Barrow?

    -The 1999 New York nightclub shooting incident is significant because it involved Sean 'Diddy' Combs, his then-girlfriend Jennifer Lopez, and rapper Jamal 'Shyne' Barrow. Shyne took the blame for the shooting and served nearly nine years in prison, while Combs was acquitted on weapon charges. The victim, Natana Rubin, has always claimed that Combs shot her, not Barrow, and is willing to have a bullet removed from her face to prove it. This case is now being reopened, which may have implications for Combs.

  • What is the role of surveillance footage in the investigation against Sean 'Diddy' Combs?

    -According to sources, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of surveillance video of Sean 'Diddy' Combs and his staff that may contain evidence of wrongdoing. This footage could potentially provide crucial evidence in the investigation against him.

  • How is the public response to the allegations against Sean 'Diddy' Combs being described?

    -Despite the allegations and ongoing investigation, Sean 'Diddy' Combs appears to be acting as if nothing is wrong. He has been seen in public with his family, engaging in leisure activities, and posting on social media without showing any signs of concern. His son has also come out demanding that people 'stop the lying'.

  • What is the significance of the comparison between Combs' yacht and Jeffrey Epstein's?

    -The comparison between Combs' yacht and Jeffrey Epstein's is significant because both individuals are accused of using their yachts to lure victims and engage in illegal activities. The yachts are said to have been used to take victims to international waters, outside of U.S. jurisdiction, where they allegedly sexually assaulted their guests.

  • What is the role of the alleged 'hench person' in the case against Sean 'Diddy' Combs?

    -The alleged 'hench person' in the case against Sean 'Diddy' Combs is compared to Ghislaine Maxwell in the Epstein case. This person, identified in the lawsuit as Christina Koram, is accused of aiding Combs in procuring potential victims for abuse and may have knowledge of other wealthy and powerful individuals involved in similar activities.

  • What is the process of a grand jury indictment?

    -A grand jury indictment involves a prosecutor presenting evidence to a group of citizens, typically 20 to 40 people, who listen to the evidence and vote on whether to indict or not. If they decide to indict, it is called a 'true bill' or an indictment; if they decide not to indict, it is called a 'no bill' or 'no bill of indictment'. The process is secret, and hearsay is allowed, unlike in a trial jury.

  • What is the potential impact of the allegations on Sean 'Diddy' Combs' financial situation?

    -The allegations could have a significant impact on Sean 'Diddy' Combs' financial situation. He reportedly has taken out eight mortgages for his properties, owing over $100 million, which will need to be paid within the next few years. Additionally, he is likely to incur substantial legal fees due to the ongoing investigations and potential legal battles.

  • What is the role of the media in the unfolding investigation against Sean 'Diddy' Combs?

    -The media plays a significant role in the unfolding investigation against Sean 'Diddy' Combs by providing coverage of the allegations, the legal proceedings, and the public response. This includes reporting on the details of the allegations, the reactions of those involved, and the potential legal and financial implications for Combs.

  • How do victims of sexual assault typically respond to the public attention surrounding their cases?

    -Victims of sexual assault often find the public attention surrounding their cases to be traumatic and distressing. They may experience a range of emotions, including fear, anxiety, and a re-experiencing of the trauma. The public scrutiny can also lead to a focus on the victims' personal lives and choices, which can be invasive and potentially damaging to their reputations and mental health.

  • What is the importance of public support for victims who come forward with allegations?

    -Public support for victims who come forward with allegations is crucial as it can provide validation and encouragement for them to share their experiences. It can also help to counteract feelings of isolation and shame that victims may experience. Public support can contribute to a sense of community and solidarity, which is important for the healing process and for empowering other victims to come forward as well.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ” Allegations and Comparisons to Jeffrey Epstein

The paragraph discusses the disturbing similarities between Sean 'Diddy' Combs and Jeffrey Epstein, focusing on their alleged abuse of power, wealth, and influence to exploit young women. It delves into the allegations against Combs, the comparisons made to Epstein's case, and the potential consequences. The discussion also touches on the impact of these events on Combs' public image and the reactions from various parties involved.

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πŸ’‘ Diddy's Public Response and Legal Challenges

This paragraph details Diddy's public behavior and statements in response to the allegations, highlighting his attempts to maintain a facade of innocence and normalcy. It also discusses the potential legal strategies and challenges that Combs might face, including the role of his associates and the possibility of hidden cameras capturing incriminating evidence. The paragraph underscores the gravity of the situation and the potential for a high-profile legal battle.

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🌊 International Waters and Hidden Activities

The focus of this paragraph is on the alleged use of yachts and private planes by both Combs and Epstein to evade legal jurisdiction by committing crimes in international waters. It discusses the legal implications of such actions and the potential for the law to catch up with the accused. The paragraph also touches on the significance of the locations where the alleged activities took place and the potential involvement of other high-profile individuals.

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πŸ›οΈ Grand Jury Proceedings and Legal Strategies

This paragraph delves into the potential grand jury proceedings against Combs, discussing the process and the possible witnesses that could be called. It highlights the importance of credible eyewitness testimony and the strategies that might be used to secure a conviction. The paragraph also considers the potential impact of the allegations on Combs' public image and the broader implications for high-profile cases.

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πŸŽ₯ Public and Private Reactions to the Allegations

The paragraph explores the public and private reactions to the allegations against Combs, including the responses from his associates and the impact on his personal life. It discusses the potential for a shift in public opinion and the possible legal and personal consequences for Combs. The paragraph also considers the role of social media in shaping the narrative and the potential for further revelations from those close to Combs.

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πŸ’Έ Financial Implications and Legal Fees

This paragraph examines the financial implications of the allegations against Combs, including his property holdings, mortgages, and the potential costs of legal fees. It discusses the potential impact on his billion-dollar empire and the possible strategies he might employ to manage his financial situation. The paragraph also considers the broader implications of financial stress on high-profile individuals facing legal challenges.

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🀝 Support for Survivors and the Importance of Speaking Out

The paragraph emphasizes the bravery of those coming forward with allegations and the challenges they face, including the potential risks to their reputation, career, and personal well-being. It discusses the importance of supporting survivors and the need for a fair and just legal process. The paragraph also highlights the role of public opinion and the potential for societal change in response to high-profile cases.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Sex Trafficking

Sex trafficking refers to the illegal trade of people for the purposes of sexual exploitation. In the video, it is a central allegation against Sean 'Diddy' Combs, suggesting that he used his wealth and influence to lure, procure, and abuse victims. The comparison to Jeffrey Epstein highlights the severity of these claims and the potential for high-profile individuals to be involved in such criminal activities.

πŸ’‘Character Assassination

Character assassination is the act of damaging someone's reputation through false or misleading information. In the context of the video, Sean Combs has issued a statement denying the allegations against him and claiming that he is a victim of character assassination. This implies that he believes the accusations are an attempt to tarnish his public image without merit.

πŸ’‘Privilege and Abuse

Privilege and abuse refers to the misuse of power, status, or wealth to harm or exploit others. The video discusses how both Sean Combs and Jeffrey Epstein allegedly used their privilege to treat and abuse young women, highlighting a pattern of behavior where those with significant resources may feel entitled to act without consequence.

πŸ’‘Surveillance Footage

Surveillance footage is video recorded by monitoring devices, typically for security purposes. In the video, the mention of hundreds or thousands of hours of surveillance video suggests that there may be substantial evidence of wrongdoing by Sean Combs and his staff. This type of footage can be a powerful tool in legal proceedings, as it can provide objective evidence of events.

πŸ’‘Legal Proceedings

Legal proceedings refer to the activities involved in the process of law, such as trials, hearings, and investigations. The video script discusses various legal actions, including the reopening of a past case involving a shooting and the ongoing sex trafficking investigation. These proceedings are essential for determining the truth and potential guilt or innocence of the accused.

πŸ’‘Public Perception

Public perception is how the general public views or interprets a person, event, or situation. In the video, there is a focus on how Sean Combs is perceived in light of the allegations against him. Public perception can significantly influence the outcome of legal proceedings and the reputation of the individuals involved.

πŸ’‘Allegations

Allegations are statements or claims that someone has done something illegal or wrong, without proof. In the video, numerous allegations are made against Sean Combs, including sexual assault and sex trafficking. These allegations are the basis for the investigations and legal actions being discussed.

πŸ’‘Victim Impact

Victim impact refers to the physical, emotional, and psychological effects that a crime has on those who have been directly harmed. The video emphasizes the bravery of those coming forward with allegations, acknowledging the personal risks and the trauma they may re-experience as a result of the crimes they allege.

πŸ’‘Grand Jury

A grand jury is a legal body that hears evidence presented by prosecutors to determine whether there is enough cause to bring criminal charges against someone. In the video, the potential for a grand jury to indict Sean Combs is discussed, highlighting the seriousness of the allegations and the legal process that may follow.

πŸ’‘Criminal Enterprise

A criminal enterprise refers to an organized group or network engaged in illegal activities for financial gain. The video suggests that Sean Combs may have been operating a criminal enterprise involving sex trafficking, with various individuals working on his behalf to facilitate the alleged crimes.

Highlights

Comparing Sean 'Diddy' Combs to Jeffrey Epstein due to allegations of sexual misconduct and abuse of power.

Alleged use of wealth and influence by Combs to obtain and exploit young girls is discussed.

Jalen Maxwell, who is now in custody, is compared to her role in the Epstein case.

The investigation into Combs is expanding, with potential links to human trafficking being examined.

A re-examination of a 1999 nightclub shooting involving Combs, Jennifer Lopez, and Jamal Barrow is highlighted.

The reopening of the 1999 shooting case due to a victim's claim that Combs was the actual shooter is mentioned.

Combs' reaction to the allegations, including issuing a statement against character assassination, is discussed.

The presence of surveillance footage capturing potential wrongdoing by Combs and his staff is noted.

The investigation's focus on Combs' yacht and trips to the Virgin Islands is compared to Epstein's methods.

The role of intermediaries or 'hench persons' in grooming victims for abuse is explored, with Christina Koram being named.

Speculation about the potential indictment of Combs and the use of hidden cameras as evidence is presented.

The impact of the legal proceedings on Combs' social media presence and public image is discussed.

The importance of the bravery of victims coming forward and the challenges they face is emphasized.

The potential use of grand jury proceedings and the征集 of witnesses to testify against Combs is highlighted.

The financial situation of Combs, including his properties and mortgages, is examined in light of the legal fees he may face.

The response of Combs' son, King Combs, to the allegations and his detainment during the raids is noted.

The discussion emphasizes the trauma and long-term effects experienced by victims of sexual assault.

Transcripts

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money

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power

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privilege

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excess wealth whatever you want when you

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want it how you want

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it Sean Puffy Combs of course I could be

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talking about Jeffrey Epstein the two

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have very disturbing similarities both

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using their privilege their Fame their

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Fortune to m treat and abuse young women

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if these allegations are

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[Music]

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[Music]

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true Sean Puffy combes in the last hours

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many comparisons have been made to the

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disgraced now dead Financial Guru

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Jeffrey

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Epstein after a very intricate

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web all built in order for him to obtain

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procure and molest young girls with a

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fleet of people working for him hinch

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person number one Jalene Maxwell who is

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now behind bars but think about it

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immense power wealth

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Prestige no one around them speaking out

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ever traveling free freely across the US

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keeping homes in California in New York

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in

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Florida

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Yachts that take them onto the high seas

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outside of us jurisdiction in the

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international waters and important from

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my perspective right now surveillance

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cameras according to sources there are

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literally hundreds and hundreds if not

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thousands and thousands of hours of

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surveillance video of sha comes and his

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staff committing wrongdoing this while

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one of the most iconic music figures in

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our lifetime Shan combms has issued a

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statement where he rails about character

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assassination and how he has been

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mistreated let me tell you as a crime

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victim

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myself he does doesn't know his rear end

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from a hole in the ground if he's

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talking about his character

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assassination with me an All-Star panel

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to make sense of what we know right now

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but in the face of an expanding a

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widening sex traffic investigation I

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want you to take a listen to our friend

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Dave Mack at crime

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online Sean combes his girlfriend at the

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time Jennifer Lopez and rapper Jamal

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shine Barrow were involved in a fight

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that included shots being fired at a New

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York nightclub in 1999 one of the

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victims of the shooting natana Rubin has

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claimed all along that sha com shot her

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not Barrow and she's willing to have

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doctors remove a piece of bullet that is

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still in her face to prove it Shine

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Barrow took the heat for the shooting

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and goes to prison for nearly nine years

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while coms has acquitted a four counts

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of criminal possession of a weapon in

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bribery Lopez was never

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charged wow why do I care what happened

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all the way back in

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1999 because because that case is now

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being reopened not necessarily for a

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prosecution as you will recall sha puffy

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comes was acquitted in gun charges

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steaming out of that incident but why do

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I care if it's reopened for a lot of

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different reasons and you're hearing

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that now a woman allegedly involved in

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that shooting a nightclub shooting is

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willing to have part of a bullet dug out

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of her face you're seeing shots of combs

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on Rolling Stone and

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billboard a guy of of this ilk with a

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fortune this immense who will be willing

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to speak out against him with me an

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Allstar panel to make sense of what we

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know right now but straight out to Kell

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Brantley investigative reporter

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dailymail.com who's on the story from

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the very beginning if we're going all

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the way back to a 19 1999 incident and

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that's the best days work JLo Jennifer

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Lopez ever

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did and man she is a superstar is

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getting rid of Shawn combes that did it

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she was a beautiful talented upand

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cominging Superstar making her way in

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the entertainment business she gets tied

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up with Combs and all of a sudden people

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are shot three shooting victims as I

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recall at a nightclub in New York and

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there she is into the precinct uhuh

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bye-bye sadly I don't think this case is

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going to end as quickly as that one did

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for Combs Kaleb Brantley give me the

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latest so Diddy is acting Nancy like he

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is completely innocent he came out with

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that statement saying he will fight to

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prove his innocence and he's actually

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been out and about in Miami acting like

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he is a perfectly man he was seen with

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his twin daughters golfing and then

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stopping by a restaurant and seen by

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fans he put his signature L for brother

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love up to the camera and then he was

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seen on a dock in Miami over the weekend

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shirtless in white swimming trunks

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acting as if he has no care in the world

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so obviously here we're seeing somebody

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who hasn't taken fault for anything and

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will continue to fight to prove his

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innocence you know has he heard about

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the shooting victim that's offered to

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have a bullet dug out of her face in

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order to be used against Sean combes I

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mean because that would worry me if a

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person that was uh shot in the face by

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me or my hinch people and they want to

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have the bullet dug out now all these

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years later I gotta ask myself why why

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now that doesn't concern him he's had

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he's had a raid on his home and on his

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two homes and it seems like nothing has

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phased him so far so much so as on

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Easter he post posted a photo for the

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first time of his young daughter just

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with the caption happy Easter baby love

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and notably disabled the comments from

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that and we can understand

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why are you telling me that he's gone

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dead on his social that's hard to

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believe well he did post the photo and

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again acts like nothing's wrong uh but

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he doesn't want any comments you can

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imagine what kind of comments would be

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posted under that

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photo you know uh also in the past days

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his son has come out and demanded

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everyone quote stop the lying I guess he

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thinks the feds are lying in all of

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their claims guys you're seeing video

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that was given to us by our friend

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Harvey L over at TMZ this is immediately

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after the search of one of sha puffy

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com's home and you're looking at about I

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don't know maybe1 100 $200,000 worth of

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sneakers

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alone uh running shoes

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yeah that said there's a lot of

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complaining that the the feds hey you

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know you're in trouble when the feds

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roll up to your front yard in an armored

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vehicle wearing Kevlar mhm now they're

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complaining they they messed the place

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up I'm surprised it wasn't more

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ransacked than that looking for secret

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hidey holes false walls you name it I I

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remember a case I prosecuted where I had

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my invaluable dog witness there was a

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fake wall in a drug Lord's home and the

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dog my star witness kept hitting on the

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wall and there was nothing to see until

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they and figured out it was fake wall

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and then behind the fake wall was a

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stash of well over a million dollars

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worth of cocaine automatic

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weapons it bad bad and this was

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about less than a mile from an

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elementary school so I'm surprised com's

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home wasn't more torn up than what we're

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seeing now speaking of what we are

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seeing from our friends over at TMZ take

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a listen to this the comes investigation

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is drawing comparisons to that of

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Jeffrey Epstein after Rodney little Rod

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Jones lawsuit was filed Jones accuses

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coms of sexually assaulting him and

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other victims on multiple occasions

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com's yacht is also drawing comparisons

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to Jeffrey Epstein as coms is accused of

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luring victims onto a yacht he rents for

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trips to the Virgin Islands and sexually

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assaulting guests on the yacht with me

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as I said an Allstar panel and right now

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we're going to break it down nobody

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thought that Jeffrey Epstein would ever

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go to jail prince Andrew Denton I'm not

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a Republican and I'm not a Democrat but

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I can guarantee you when Clinton was

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taking a walk with Epstein in front of

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God and everybody I bet he didn't ever

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think Epstein's going to jail about all

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those High powerered uh politicos

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royalty you name it never believe that

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their good friend Jeffrey Epstein would

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not only go to jail but end up killing

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himself according to reports over sex

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claims is that what we're seeing now I

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want the panel to hear this and jump in

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to you Nema Romani joining me uh former

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Federal prosecutor which is what I'm

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interested in right now also the

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president of West Coast Tri lawyers and

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high-profile trial attorney in that

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jurisdiction even think about it nobody

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ever thought Epstein would go down right

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but look at the

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comparisons I'm very intrigued by the

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fact that they both used Yachts they

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both would travel into international

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waters to wrongfully do their deeds now

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all of this amounts to allegations

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against comes nothing has been proven it

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has been proven against Epstein private

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planes private yachts taking them again

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into international waters outside the US

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jurisdiction that does not mean the long

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arm of the law cannot reach them but

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their modes of travel remember the

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so-called Lolita Express that Epstein

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used and had a lot of

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high-profile uh politicians and

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stars uh on his plane that he would take

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to his private island the homes that I

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find very interesting Nema Romani are in

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California Florida and New York and

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Beyond why why is that apparently their

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choice of where these activities and

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ferious activities are taking place we

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got to examine that Nema what is

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interesting about that also is the use

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of hidden cameras we believe and

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according to witness is catching

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literally thousands of hours of what

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could be State's exhibit number one jump

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in Nema in Epstein case you have to give

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credit to the victims like Virginia je

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free who wouldn't let the story go after

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Alex aosta gave him a sweetheart deal

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and here really it started with Cassie

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Venture and then others have come

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forward now we know that abusers people

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that sexually abuse young women they

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often use intermediaries or others to

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groom the victims and obviously we know

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about Gan Maxwell but here you have his

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chief of staff Diddy's Chief of Staff

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Christina koram who's alleged and named

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in little Rod's lawsuit and of course he

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is really the impetus for I think these

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search warrants he's the one that talked

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about these hidden cameras throughout

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the residences he's the one who

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identified names of other rich and

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powerful people like Cuba Gooding Jr who

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are allegedly involved in all this so we

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know that had a lot of connections here

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in Los Angeles where I will live in

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Miami in New York business connections

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and I wouldn't be surprised that these

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allegations are proven Nancy that

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there's other rich and famous people who

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were involved in this much like Jeffrey

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Epstein man we never heard anything more

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about those so-called hidden cameras in

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Epstein's place we never really heard

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everything the little black book full of

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names and client accordingly in Jazelle

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Maxwell's possession will that be the

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same here is anybody actually going to

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prosecute homes because we've heard a

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lot about searches and raids by home

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security

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investigators where's the charge because

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Nema I was a Fed for three years and you

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were fed much longer than that when the

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state moves on a search warrant they've

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got you they got you by the let me think

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of a nice way to say it by the short

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hairs it's over by the time they pull up

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on your block it's done you might as

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well start working on a guilty plag

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right then so what's the hold up why are

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we hearing all about the raids and then

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there's no

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charge oh I think the indictment is

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happening any day now Nancy and you're

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right times are changing you know what

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was tolerated before the Epstein are

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Kelly of the world Weinstein you name it

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I mean they are going down I mean this

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is something that Federal prosecutors

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are now taking very seriously we know

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the southern district of New York is

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quarterbacking they're the best of the

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best so they have probable cause at PC

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to get search warrants executed by a

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federal judge and I wouldn't be

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surprised if they're presenting the case

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to the grandury this week you know Diddy

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may seem comfortable on social media and

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in his shorts and golfing but he's

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likely going to be arrested in a matter

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of days believe

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it the investig ation into sexual

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assault allegations against sha Colmes

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is bringing up similar details to the

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Jeffrey Epstein investigation where it

14:35

was determined Epstein was aided in his

14:37

abuse by his girlfriend gilain Maxwell

14:40

the Rodney lilrod Jones lawsuit alleges

14:42

sha Colmes has an aid who plays a

14:44

similar role to what Maxwell did for

14:46

abstein in helping procure potential

14:48

victims for Combs the Jones lawsuit

14:51

further alleges there's evidence of the

14:53

sexual assaults and sex trafficking as

14:55

hidden cameras record everything

14:57

throughout the com's homes which is why

14:59

homes in La and Miami were ready guys

15:02

right now is an indictment prepared and

15:05

ready to take to a vote for a grand jury

15:08

with me in Allstar panel but I'm going

15:09

to run right back to Nema Romani this is

15:12

how it works we've all heard the phrase

15:15

you could get a grand jury to a d a ham

15:17

sandwich uh I don't know if that's true

15:20

but I can tell you this whoever is

15:22

leading the grand jury and I presented

15:24

to Grand Jury for months and months and

15:27

months you bring in typically one

15:30

witness if you can one witness

15:33

preferably the lead

15:35

investigator and they give a recap to

15:38

the grand jury which typically uh

15:40

depending on the jurisdiction is 20 to

15:42

40ish people on the voter registration

15:45

that live in that jurisdiction I.E that

15:48

County or that District they listen to

15:51

the witness they rarely ask questions

15:53

sometimes they do and then the witness

15:56

leaves bam vote that's called a true

15:59

bill or an indictment if they decide not

16:02

to indict which is probably at the

16:04

request of the prosecutor it's a no bill

16:07

no bill of indictment are you telling me

16:10

Nema Romani you believe the indictment

16:13

the Federal grand jury indictment has

16:15

already been drawn up in other words

16:17

typed out with all the counts and it's

16:20

waiting for a grand jury presentment or

16:23

Vote or to be made

16:26

public oh Nancy I do that indictment has

16:29

been drafted if you're the feds you

16:31

don't go into someone's home like Diddy

16:33

unless you're ready to indict and this

16:36

is why first of all we saw that armed

16:38

law enforcement president violence May

16:40

ensue but from a legal perspective from

16:43

a case perspective people may disappear

16:45

they may flee the jurisdiction and

16:48

evidence may be destroyed those search

16:50

warns are the final step of the

16:52

investigation because when you're the

16:54

feds you have the luxury of waiting when

16:57

you're conducting these proac

16:59

investigations you're not reacting to

17:01

law enforcement already arresting

17:03

someone and you're stuck with a case you

17:05

have the luxury of making sure that all

17:08

those Witnesses are interviewed maybe

17:10

they're put in front of the grand jury

17:12

you have all the counts and everything

17:14

you need because once you execute that

17:16

search one you put your Target on notice

17:19

and you don't want to do that until

17:21

you're ready and I believe the US

17:24

attorney's office in the southern

17:25

district of New York is ready right now

17:27

to prosecute Sean

17:31

CS guys I want to show you oh yeah

17:34

you're seeing a video given to us by our

17:36

friend uh Harvey 11 at teamz and it's

17:39

right after the search at one of com's

17:42

residents I'd like to see Liz the photo

17:46

of one of the parties that Shawn comes

17:51

through Shan puffy okay there's that one

17:53

where everybody's partying and the other

17:55

one is the one I'm trying to get to yeah

17:58

there okay hold it hold

18:00

it where it says censored is a lady with

18:05

no pants on and that is her rear end in

18:09

genitals right there in the party okay

18:13

but I don't care about that the mirror

18:16

you're seeing the round the circular

18:19

mirror and there's a guy right below it

18:22

hinch person Hench person just like

18:26

galain Maxwell was a Hench person for

18:30

Epstein this is moy bon myy bon if

18:35

you'll see right here we had to actually

18:37

draw a diagram a flowchart so to speak

18:40

of all the people connected to this case

18:43

and there he is on your bottom right Moy

18:47

Bond you think he's not rolling over

18:50

right now to Robert crisen joining me

18:52

former Federal Task Force officer for us

18:55

doj that's Department of Justice with

18:58

the DEA in the Miami field division

19:01

never a lack of business there former

19:04

homicide and crimes against children

19:06

investigator now at crisen

19:09

investigations.com

19:11

Robert one question for now you think

19:15

all the people we just showed on that

19:17

flow chart aren't begging to sing for a

19:22

plea deal I mean I'd have my lawyer on

19:25

the phone yesterday working a deal so I

19:28

wouldn't spend the next 50 years in the

19:31

penitentiary listen they know it's

19:33

coming and they're trying to get the

19:35

best seat in the house and they're going

19:36

to these prosecutors saying what can I

19:38

give you let's sit down let's talk

19:40

because those chairs are going to fill

19:42

up really fast once this thing starts to

19:45

unwind and once people start getting

19:47

arrested but if I can back up just two

19:48

seconds about that search warrant you

19:50

know I I'm not real sure that indictment

19:53

is going to come out this quickly

19:55

because there's a lot of electronics

19:57

that were taken and I will tell you from

19:59

doing multiple Federal search warrants

20:01

and taking a lot of electronic devices

20:03

that stuff takes time to go through

20:05

systematically you got a retrieve data

20:07

that's been deleted and ironically the

20:10

hidden cameras that were in you know in

20:13

in Diddy's house are probably GNA be the

20:15

same cameras that are going to sink him

20:17

hey hey hey crisen you think the feds

20:20

haven't done everything you just said

20:22

except the cameras because if they

20:24

gotten the cameras uh Combs I know

20:27

you're on a first name basis with sha p

20:31

uh combes but that said I'm not comes

20:34

and his staff would know if those

20:36

cameras have been seized off a yacht or

20:39

at his locations where he lives his

20:42

domiciles we don't know that yet but

20:44

everything you just talked about I

20:46

guarantee you the feds have done I would

20:49

not be surprised if they haven't been

20:50

wiretapping him I mean they go all the

20:53

way crisen as you all know from your

20:56

prior investigations and I'm telling you

20:59

they would not have made a public raid a

21:02

simultaneous raid with assault weapons

21:06

if they were not ready on their

21:09

indictment those raids were used to

21:12

support the indictment they've already

21:15

drawn up when I say drawn up it's

21:17

because you a person writes out the

21:20

indictment they may then later type it

21:23

but you write out the charges you think

21:25

you can prove and then you support it

21:27

with the evidence I guarantee you

21:30

they've got the indictment ready to go

21:32

They're either waiting on a vote or

21:35

they've already had a grand jury vote

21:37

and they're waiting to go public that's

21:39

what I think is happening now what is

21:41

the Fallout how is combes behaving

21:44

because a jury could take into account

21:47

what occurred before during and after to

21:50

Dr John delator joining me a

21:52

psychologist mediator specializing in

21:55

forensic psychology a witch on

21:59

you know that that's what always happens

22:01

when you have the crap coming at you

22:04

what do you

22:05

do you put it in a ball and you throw it

22:08

back like a snowball at whoever threw it

22:10

to start with that's what's Happening

22:12

Here Witch Hunt it's like Focus off all

22:15

the evidence and focus on me I'm being

22:17

persecuted that's what that

22:20

is yeah that's 100% what that is and

22:23

that's part of being that that's part of

22:25

the the the the motif right the the

22:27

Thematic element that it means to be an

22:29

abuser it's making the other person the

22:32

victims or whoever it is that that's

22:34

coming after you making them the

22:35

villains because in your mind you

22:37

haven't done anything wrong now we don't

22:39

know how he is actually responding when

22:41

there aren't cameras around I'm pretty

22:43

sure he's Furious in contacting his

22:45

attorney about getting this thing fixed

22:47

because in his mind he's been able to

22:49

get away with this for so long that he's

22:52

forgotten that all of this stuff is

22:54

abusive he's forgotten all that stuff is

22:56

unlawful he doesn't care that all of

22:59

this stuff has hurt so many people and

23:01

he's contributed to so many further

23:04

abuses of individuals who probably

23:06

already been abused in their lives he

23:08

didn't care about any of that stuff the

23:09

only thing he ever cared about was

23:11

himself and what he could get from other

23:15

people oh yeah you know we all have

23:18

stories seriously we all have

23:21

stories mine is horrific and only five

23:25

people know it and I probably will never

23:27

tell it but it's since then I've been

23:30

like yep and I also am very intimately

23:33

aware that you tell your truth and you

23:35

become victimized over and over and over

23:38

and over and over and over and mind you

23:40

I then interviewed him many

23:42

times there's I have a lot of stories

23:44

y'all I've been in Hollywood for 25

23:46

years maybe longer 30 I got a lot of

23:48

stories

23:49

unfortunately um maybe I'll write a book

23:52

one day but it just is so traumatizing

23:56

that women just want to live every day

23:58

and feel safe and when we revisit and

24:00

revisit we live in a state of victimhood

24:02

and nobody wants to live there so for

24:04

those of you like why aren't you saying

24:05

something then because we just want to

24:07

live we want to be happy and we really

24:10

want to forget the trauma so there's

24:13

that you are hearing to make Ray former

24:15

backup dancer for Shan combes on

24:18

Instagram she states I'll probably never

24:21

tell this maybe I'll write a book well

24:22

how about to a grand jury because I

24:25

would sure like to find out what she is

24:26

talking about that was so upset setting

24:28

and traumatizing that frankly right now

24:31

she can't even talk about it she just

24:34

wants to live her life and be happy what

24:37

happened what does she know what does

24:39

everybody around Shan combes know that

24:42

they don't want to say in a career that

24:45

has been marked by murder untimely death

24:48

and

24:49

prison now finally are we at the point

24:54

where a grand jury indictment is going

24:56

to be handed down if you saw

24:59

in the last few days you think Shan

25:01

puffy P didy combes has not a care in

25:05

the world I don't know if that's true um

25:09

joining me Kell Brantley uh

25:11

investigative reporter dailymail.com but

25:13

first to Shannon Henry president and

25:16

founder of SAS sass surviving assault

25:20

standing strong a

25:22

nonprofit whose mission is to eradicate

25:26

sex trafficking and violence against

25:28

women and girls

25:30

globally Shannon Henry I know that a lot

25:33

of times sass your group deals with

25:37

pimps um sex trafficking massage parlors

25:41

nail parlors where you une Earth the

25:44

drgs of society taking advantage of

25:48

underage girls and women that can't

25:51

speak for themselves I I guess it's

25:53

pretty rare that you get a media and

25:57

music

25:59

literally a music icon in your

26:02

crosshairs but what can you tell us

26:05

about prior incidents we're mentioning

26:08

untimely deaths shooting prison

26:12

what so sure Nancy thank you it's you

26:16

know we've worked with 20,000 women on

26:19

four different continents and when

26:20

you're looking at the Playbook whether

26:22

it's Epstein or Cosby or anyone else

26:25

there are certain criteria that they hit

26:27

now we know that with Shawn things have

26:31

been riddled with violence with grooming

26:34

with intimidation physical violence guns

26:37

pornography underage girls like you said

26:40

um promises sexual violence and abuse

26:43

emotional abuse and his circle of cruies

26:45

who I call his buddy guards that he pays

26:47

off to keep everything quiet and

26:49

intimidate other people in order to

26:51

maintain control but we do know about

26:54

two incidents that have occurred also

26:56

where there have been shootings whether

26:58

it was at the nightclub or it was at the

27:01

recording studio it just seems like no

27:03

matter where he is New York La um the

27:06

Virgin Islands uh Miami whether he's on

27:10

a yacht or he's in a car or he's at the

27:12

studio bad things happen when he's

27:16

around the photos we're seeing right now

27:19

apparently we're seeing blood and

27:23

evidence of some sort of a struggle does

27:25

that have something to do with his son

27:27

Justin's friend

27:29

it does they call him Mr G inside sure

27:33

so there was an argument um this is all

27:36

according to little rod and it was in

27:38

his court documents um when all of this

27:42

came to be he was sitting about two feet

27:44

from the incident he heard yelling Shawn

27:47

and his son were in a room along with Mr

27:50

G and then when they came out it was

27:53

clear that there was blood he heard the

27:55

gunshots he was afraid for his own life

27:57

tried to help according to the documents

28:00

and was told not to um this man was

28:03

bleeding from several areas in his body

28:06

uh the police were called to come in and

28:09

help but the ambulance stayed several

28:11

blocks away according to the documents

28:13

again because they were worried about an

28:15

active shooter because they were told

28:17

that this was a driveby guys I want you

28:20

to take a listen to aurio day Uncle Luke

28:23

and Cat Williams speaking out listen

28:27

um

28:28

I wasn't willing to uh do

28:33

what was expected of

28:35

me not talent wise but in other areas so

28:40

what was expected of her you're hearing

28:43

AUB o day of Making the Band three uh

28:47

Kella Brantley what is she talking about

28:49

I wasn't willing to do what was expected

28:51

of me not talent wise but other

28:54

areas well now with these allegations

28:56

you can infer that it was likely

28:58

something sexual and like aurio day and

29:01

like tenique gay these are stories that

29:04

you're probably going to hear a lot more

29:06

of people are going to come out with

29:08

their own stories of Diddy and it's very

29:10

interesting because that does remind me

29:12

of Jeffrey Epstein and it does remind me

29:14

of Harvey Weinstein and that this was

29:17

all just an Open Secret that in these

29:20

Hollywood Elite circles people knew of

29:23

this Behavior but of course there's

29:25

intimidation tactics of course there's

29:28

alleged black male so we will likely

29:30

hear many more stories but it just

29:33

depends if these people are willing to

29:35

come forward when it matters

29:37

most so check this out yo um Justin he's

29:40

in you ever seen the movie 48 hours

29:43

right now he's having 48 hours with

29:45

Diddy him and his boy um they're having

29:47

the times of their lives like like like

29:50

you know where we hanging out and where

29:52

we doing um we we can't really

29:55

disclose but um it's defin definitely a

29:58

15y old's dream um you know I I have

30:03

been given custody of him you know he

30:05

signed to Usher I'm signed to Usher I I

30:08

had legal guardianship of Usher when

30:10

when you know he he did his first album

30:12

I did Usher's first album I don't really

30:14

I don't have legal guardianship of him

30:15

but for the next 48 hours he's with me

30:18

so um and we going to go full Buck full

30:23

crazy going crazy you were saying as a

30:26

young boy Justin Be

30:28

with coms that is from com's YouTube

30:32

channel what would be a 15-year-old

30:34

boy's dream that he's talking about I'm

30:38

not sure I want to know that right now

30:40

but I I I want to focus on what we're

30:42

hearing KLA Brantley joining us from

30:44

dailymail.com in the last 48 hours 50

30:49

cents fit has gone crazy on social media

30:53

why so 50 cents ex dapan joy they share

30:56

a 12-year-old son together she was named

30:59

in the little Rod lawsuit as a sex

31:02

worker for Diddy and 50 Cent they are

31:04

not on good terms he has been trolling

31:07

Diddy since this began and now he's come

31:10

out hitting out against his ex Daphne

31:13

Joy which she has completely denied so

31:16

now even more players are getting

31:18

involved I'm just wondering Nema Romani

31:20

all the people that say they're not

31:23

willing to speak out for instance the

31:26

one backup singer who says she doesn't

31:28

want to talk about it not that I blame

31:30

her but these are people that are going

31:32

to get called to Grand Jury because

31:35

they're out there they're putting it on

31:36

social media that's loow hanging fruit

31:39

for the

31:41

feds oh there's no question they're

31:43

going to get grand jury subpoenas and

31:45

whether they want to or not they're

31:47

going to have to testify so obviously if

31:50

you're a prosecutor you want to be

31:51

sensitive to a victim of sex abuse and

31:54

to the extent that you don't need them

31:56

maybe you don't put them in front of a

31:59

trial jury but a grand jury is a secret

32:01

proceeding meeting with prosecutors

32:04

those meetings happen Behind Closed do

32:06

so that's going to happen whether the

32:08

victim wants to or

32:09

not you know a lot of people rail Nemo

32:12

Romani against quote secret grand jury

32:16

proceedings there's there's nothing at

32:19

all unconstitutional about a secret

32:21

grand jury proceeding hearsay is allowed

32:24

in Grand Jury proceedings as you just

32:26

correctly pointed out hearsay is not

32:28

allowed in front of a pedet jury which

32:30

is a jury of 12 or a smaller petite jury

32:35

uh and the Rules of Evidence come into

32:37

play they're not in play at a grand jury

32:40

so what happens at the Grand Jury May

32:43

remain secret forever although at some

32:45

point the defense has access to the

32:48

grand jury transcript so they can see

32:51

who what where why when occurred in the

32:54

grand jury proceedings um I want you to

32:57

now listen to Uncle Luke on we in Miami

33:00

did you party with Diddy a lot uh no not

33:03

really I would go to the party and and

33:05

leave early I don't know what goes on

33:07

after part after hours but he wasn't

33:09

trying to find out I wasn't trying to

33:13

find does anybody on this panel believe

33:17

that what about it delator there you've

33:20

got Uncle Luke on we in Miami who's

33:23

partying with Diddy and goes well you

33:25

know I I leave early and I go home and

33:27

read a book BS nobody left early did you

33:31

see those party pictures nobody's

33:34

leaving yeah that's what I call it

33:35

certainly doesn't look like uh yeah it

33:38

doesn't look like anybody's leaving

33:39

early although I can kind of see sort of

33:41

part of where this joke is where it's an

33:44

Open Secret where they're starting to

33:45

say listen I already know that this

33:48

guy's a bad guy I don't want to be

33:49

lumped in with all of this stuff so I'm

33:52

just going to keep my mouth closed I'm G

33:53

to keep my eyes closed I'm not going to

33:55

say anything because in some some

33:58

instances there might be retribution to

34:00

be paid if you started saying things out

34:02

of turn Maybe not maybe not now but

34:05

certainly back then when when Diddy

34:07

still had some power and influence and

34:10

can and ex uh do these kinds of things

34:12

we see violence and shooting is not

34:15

outside of Diddy's realm so it's

34:16

certainly possible that some of these

34:18

people are saying this kind of stuff in

34:20

order to keep themselves safe Jor I

34:23

don't know what you're saying when

34:25

combes did have power in influence he's

34:28

got power and influence right now his uh

34:31

estimated worth is over1 billion dollar

34:35

and everyone seemingly is afraid to

34:37

speak out uh you've got these lawsuits

34:40

which really Crack the Case wide open

34:43

but this is a guy who has a an Empire a

34:47

clothing line a liquor line a founder of

34:52

Bad Boy Records uh millions and millions

34:55

of dollars um Property Holdings although

34:59

I read kalea Brantley this weekend he is

35:03

up to his neck and hot to over 100

35:06

million on all of his properties around

35:09

the world what do you

35:10

know so dailymail.com revealed that he

35:13

actually took out eight mortgages for

35:15

his three properties one in Los Angeles

35:18

which was rated and his two side by-side

35:20

mansions in Miami which were also rated

35:23

um now he's owes over $140 million is

35:27

what he took out and he still owes $100

35:30

million on them roughly and these have

35:32

to be paid out within the next few years

35:35

if not you know from now until the next

35:37

10 years and obviously now he's up to

35:40

his neck in legal fees that he will be

35:44

having to pay soon so unclear on what

35:46

he's going to do about that but he is

35:48

allegedly a billionaire but we'll see

35:50

when the time comes a lot has been made

35:52

about trafficking allegations in the

35:54

last 48 hours Sean Puffy comes AKA Diddy

35:59

seems to be

36:00

unaffected um this is what I would do

36:03

right now Nemo ramani if our Prosecuting

36:06

this case if they haven't already done

36:07

it and I imagine that they have I would

36:09

get the hinch person who is allegedly Mo

36:14

Bond the Hench person and the drug meal

36:18

one of comes as alleged drug Mills I

36:22

would get the two of them and I would

36:25

get them in a room not together of

36:26

course and I would offer them a deal in

36:30

order to get testimony and eyewitness

36:33

accounts of anything and everything they

36:35

could tell me what about it Nema you're

36:37

gonna have to have I mean uh comes has

36:40

already walked he was acquitted on guns

36:42

charges right he has tremendous

36:46

popularity with a jury you have to have

36:50

eyewitness credible eyewitness testimony

36:53

to back up your evidence if you want to

36:55

win this case

36:56

corroboration

36:59

well Nancy that's exactly how you

37:01

prosecute any criminal Enterprise you

37:03

flip the lower level people and you work

37:05

your way up the organization and that

37:07

graphic was there and so we know the

37:09

alleged drug meal Paul I mean he has to

37:12

safety valve which means he has to

37:14

profer truthfully otherwise he's looking

37:15

at a mandatory minimum sentence

37:18

obviously Bond if you're caught up in

37:19

sex trafficking conspiracy to sex

37:23

traffic miners or produce child

37:25

pornography you're looking at 10 or 15

37:27

year mandatory minimum sentences and the

37:29

only way he's going to get out from that

37:31

is if he cooperates so you're right ncy

37:34

jurs love celebrities and he's got a

37:36

very good lawyer Aaron Dyer I used to

37:38

work with him he's a former a USA so

37:40

he's not going to take any type of deal

37:43

so if you're going to prosecute this

37:45

case as the feds you got to make sure

37:47

you flip all those other individuals and

37:50

make them testify against your real

37:52

Target and that's Shan

37:55

comes while Shan combes the states were

37:57

being raided Sons King combes and Justin

37:59

combms were detained during the raids

38:01

and now King Combs is speaking out about

38:03

his detainment and the sex assault

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Scandal engulfing his father on

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Instagram saying stop with the cap which

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is slanged for quit lying the post is

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apparently in response allegations about

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his father but the somewhat cryptic

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message might also be directed at Shan

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com's accusers I'll pick up with what

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the state can make of that in closing

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arguments but now to kill a Brantley

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investigative report are joining us from

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dailymail.com Kell we're talking about

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grand jury proceedings which I believe

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have probably already taken place but if

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they haven't who is a single witness you

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believe the state will call to testify

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in front of a grand jury I think the

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best witness here would be Cassie she

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was his girlfriend for 10 years with

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obvious intimate knowledge of how he

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works all the ins and outs they must

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have lived together um and she really

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was the Catalyst that really set all of

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this out she once she filed her lawsuit

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it was then that three other women came

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forward that Lil Rod came forward who

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would also make an excellent excellent

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witness so if I had to pick one I would

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say Cassie is the way to go guys it's

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Kell Brantley joining us investigative

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reporter dailymail.com Shannon Henry

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joining us president and founder of

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surviving assault standing strong where

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in

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Shannon I also want people to understand

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that these people that are coming

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forward are so extremely Brave there is

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no promise on the return of their

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disclosure they're risking everything

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their reputation their career their

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assets their sleep their family their

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friends everything hangs in the balance

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and that I hope that when it does come

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down to that moment where these these

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people are able to be heard and their

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voices are able to be listened to that

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the things that often people use against

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um survivors things like drug and

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alcohol use which is a coping mechanism

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not necessarily a healthy one but it is

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a coping mechanism and there gaps in

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recall which just proves that they were

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trying to survive something really

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traumatic and logic was shut down in

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that moment I hope that all of this will

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be used not only to honor these people

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for what they've done and how they've

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come forward but to prove the guilty

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party is Diddy and the cruies that he

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surrounded himself with Shannon Henry

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we've been talking about about uh

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responses from com's Camp we've been

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talking about potential Grand jurr

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Witnesses but I think one thing that's

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gotten lost in the sauce is what sex

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attack victims go through when you're

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essentially coerced you may not be

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beaten but you're coerced into unwanted

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sex

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acts many women never make a comeback

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from that like you you heard the one

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woman earlier uh saying she she can't

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even talk about it she doesn't want to

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remember it because she's trying to be

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happy and you know what I hate Shannon I

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hate when somebody out of the blue

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brings up to me my fiance's murder I

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hate that why because I can be having a

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perfectly happy day with my two children

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that I have now that I thought I would

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never have and then suddenly it's like

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some throws a bucket of wet ice cold a

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bucket of ice cold water right in my

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face and reminds me of the worst thing

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one of the worst things that has ever

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happened to me they don't want to talk

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about it they don't want to remember it

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it's so traumatic explain it you may be

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on a yacht you may be given a whole

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bunch of money and you uh but it doesn't

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take away what you were forced to do it

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doesn't take it away and our bodies

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immediately go back in Access the smells

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the sights the sounds from that moment

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and then our physical response happens

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where we feel like we need to run or

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fight or hide and so for these victims

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that are now going through all of this

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so publicly this is what they're

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experiencing on a daily

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basis we wait as the investigation into

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Desa puffy combes AKA P didy unfolds but

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right now we pause and we remember an

42:26

American Hero chief deputy sheriff Ken

42:29

prac struck by suspect's vehicle in the

42:32

line of duty South Dakota loved coaching

42:36

his son's baseball team and leaves

42:39

behind a loving wife Renee and three

42:42

children to be raised without a father

42:45

Brooke Taylor and

42:48

JD we remember Ken Prock I'll see you

42:52

tomorrow night 6 and 9:00 sharp Eastern

42:56

and until then

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