Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe are SHOCKED John Calipari is leaving Kentucky for Arkansas | First Take

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8 Apr 202413:29

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses John Calipari's move from the University of Kentucky to coach Arkansas, highlighting his achievements and the challenges he faced at Kentucky. The conversation includes various perspectives on whether this is a step up or down for Calipari, considering the tradition and expectations at both institutions. It also touches on the pressure of coaching at a blue-blood program like Kentucky and the impact of recent performance on his decision.

Takeaways

  • 📝 John Calipari is finalizing a five-year deal to coach Arkansas, with the expectation that the deal will be completed within the next 24 hours.
  • 🏆 Calipari is the second highest-paid coach in the country, only behind Kansas's Bill Self, who earns more than 8.5 million per year.
  • 🏀 Calipari had significant early success at Kentucky, advancing to the Final Four four times in his first six seasons and winning the title in 2012.
  • 📉 However, in recent years, Kentucky's performance under Calipari has declined, with a first-round loss to Oakland in the NCAA tournament this year.
  • 🤔 The decision to leave Kentucky for Arkansas is surprising to some, given the tradition and reputation of Kentucky's basketball program.
  • 🎉 Eric Musselman is credited for doing a great job at USC, despite not making the NCAA tournament this season, with several elite eight and sweet sixteen appearances.
  • 👏 There is speculation that Calipari's move to Arkansas might be due to a better environment rather than a better opportunity.
  • 🏆 Despite criticisms, Calipari remains the second all-time winningest coach in Kentucky basketball history.
  • 🤷‍♂️ The discussion includes a debate about the expectations and achievements of coaches at Kentucky, with a focus on the importance of reaching the Final Four and winning national championships.
  • 🤔 There is a call for consideration of the challenges in college basketball, including the impact of recruiting and the pressure to win with young players.

Q & A

  • Who is finalizing a five-year deal to coach Arkansas?

    -John Calipari is finalizing a five-year deal to coach Arkansas.

  • What is expected to be completed in the next 24 hours regarding John Calipari?

    -The deal for John Calipari to coach Arkansas is expected to be completed in the next 24 hours.

  • Where does John Calipari rank in terms of highest paid coaches in the country?

    -John Calipari is the second highest paid coach in the country, only behind Kansas's Bill Self.

  • What was John Calipari's earning at Kentucky?

    -John Calipari was earning more than 8 and a half million per year at Kentucky.

  • How many times did Calipari advance to the Final Four in his first six seasons at Kentucky?

    -Calipari advanced to the Final Four four times in his first six seasons at Kentucky.

  • What significant achievement did Calipari accomplish at Kentucky in 2012?

    -Calipari won the national title at Kentucky in 2012.

  • What has been the performance of Kentucky in the last few years under Calipari?

    -The performance of Kentucky has declined in the last few years under Calipari, with a first-round loss to Oakland in the NCAA tournament this year being a notable example.

  • What is the general sentiment towards Calipari leaving Kentucky for Arkansas?

    -The sentiment is one of surprise and shock, as many expected Calipari to stay at the more traditionally successful program of Kentucky.

  • Who is considered to have done a good job at USC despite not making the NCAA tournament this season?

    -Eric Muschamp is considered to have done a good job at USC, with a couple of Elite Eight appearances and three trips to the Sweet 16 during his five years there.

  • What is the comparison of Calipari's winning percentage in his first six years at Kentucky versus his last nine years?

    -In his first six years at Kentucky, Calipari's teams won 83.7% of their games, but in his last nine years, his winning percentage dropped by 11%.

  • What is the expectation from the new coach at Kentucky after Calipari's departure?

    -The expectation is that the new coach will be able to at least reach the Final Four or win a National Championship, given the high level of talent and resources available at Kentucky.

Outlines

00:00

🏀 Coaching Changes and Kentucky's Struggles

The paragraph discusses John Calipari's move from the University of Kentucky to coach Arkansas, highlighting his achievements and recent struggles at Kentucky. It mentions his high salary, early success with multiple Final Four appearances and a championship win in 2012, but notes a decline in performance in recent years, including first-round exits in the NCAA tournament. The conversation includes reactions from show hosts and guests, emphasizing the surprise of Calipari leaving a storied program like Kentucky for Arkansas and speculating on the reasons behind his decision.

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🌟 Recruiting and Expectations at Kentucky

This paragraph delves into the discussion of John Calipari's recruiting success at Kentucky, mentioning numerous first-round NBA draft picks that he coached. However, it contrasts this with the expectation of winning championships and the criticism Calipari faces for not meeting those expectations, despite his impressive rosters. The conversation also touches on the pressure of coaching at a high-profile program like Kentucky and the comparison with other successful college coaches.

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🤔 Evaluating Coaching Success and the Future of Kentucky Basketball

The paragraph continues the debate about John Calipari's coaching success, considering his win percentage and championship record at Kentucky. It addresses the high standards and expectations at Kentucky, where not winning a championship or making the Final Four is seen as underachievement. The discussion also explores potential replacements for Calipari and the challenges any new coach would face in living up to the legacy and expectations of the Kentucky basketball program.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡John Calipari

John Calipari is a prominent college basketball coach who, according to the transcript, is finalizing a five-year deal to coach Arkansas. He is noted for being the second highest-paid coach in the country, previously coaching at Kentucky. His move from Kentucky to Arkansas is a central topic of discussion in the video, with various opinions on why he made this decision.

💡Arkansas

Arkansas is the state and university where John Calipari is expected to coach after finalizing a deal, as mentioned in the transcript. The discussion around this keyword revolves around the comparison of the Arkansas basketball program to that of Kentucky, with participants expressing surprise at the move due to the perceived difference in the prestige and tradition of the two programs.

💡Kentucky

Kentucky is a renowned college basketball program that John Calipari has coached in the past. The keyword is significant in the transcript as it is the program that Calipari is leaving, and the discussion contrasts its history and reputation with that of Arkansas. The success and struggles of Calipari at Kentucky are a major point of the conversation.

💡Coaching

Coaching is the profession and activity that John Calipari is involved in, and it is the central theme of the transcript. The discussion revolves around his coaching career, achievements, and the impact of his move from Kentucky to Arkansas. The term is used to analyze his performance, salary, and the expectations associated with his coaching role.

💡Final Four

The Final Four is a reference to the last stage of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament, where the top four teams compete for the national championship. In the transcript, it is used as a measure of success for college basketball coaches, particularly in discussing John Calipari's achievements and the expectations for his coaching at both Kentucky and Arkansas.

💡NCAA Tournament

The NCAA Tournament refers to the annual championship event of the National Collegiate Athletic Association's Division I men's basketball competition. In the context of the transcript, it is a significant measure of a coach's success and the performance of their team. The discussion includes the performance of Calipari's teams in the tournament and how it factors into his move to Arkansas.

💡Salary

Salary is the compensation paid to an individual for their work, in this case, referring to the income of John Calipari as a basketball coach. In the transcript, it is used to highlight the financial aspect of his profession and the implications of his move from Kentucky to Arkansas.

💡Tradition

Tradition, in the context of the transcript, refers to the historical success, reputation, and established customs of a sports program. The discussion contrasts the tradition of the Kentucky basketball program with that of Arkansas, highlighting the significance of this factor in the decision to hire a new coach.

💡Recruiting

Recruiting in college basketball refers to the process of attracting high school athletes to join a college team. The transcript discusses the level of talent that Calipari has recruited to Kentucky, including numerous first-round draft picks, and how this relates to the expectations of success for the program.

💡Performance

Performance in this context refers to the outcomes and achievements of a sports team under the guidance of its coach. The transcript analyzes Calipari's performance at Kentucky, particularly in the NCAA Tournament, and how it has changed over time, influencing his move to Arkansas.

💡Success

Success in the context of the transcript is used to evaluate the achievements and accomplishments of a coach and their team, particularly in terms of winning games, championships, and reaching significant milestones like the Final Four. The discussion revolves around whether Calipari's recent record at Kentucky aligns with the expectations of success for a program of its stature.

Highlights

John Calipari finalizing a five-year deal to coach Arkansas.

The deal is expected to be completed in the next 24 hours.

Calipari is the second highest-paid coach in the country at Kentucky.

Calipari earns more than 8 and a half million per year.

Calipari had a lot of success early on at Kentucky, advancing to the final four four times in his first six seasons and winning the title in 2012.

Kentucky faced a loss to Oakland in the first round of this year's NCAA tournament.

USC is lucky to have Eric Mussim, who did a great job despite not making the NCAA tournament this season.

Calipari is friends with an Arkansas alumni member who is a billionaire, which may have influenced his move.

In Calipari's first six seasons at Kentucky, they won 83.7% of their games, three 35-win seasons, four final four appearances, and one national title.

In his last nine years, Calipari's winning percentage dropped by 11% and zero in every category including 35 wins, final fours, and NCAA titles.

Kentucky has had two first-round exits to a number 14 and a number 15 seed in the last four years.

There were rumors and dissatisfaction with Calipari's performance at Kentucky.

Calipari is the second all-time winningest coach in Kentucky basketball history.

Despite having numerous first-round picks and top recruits, Calipari's team couldn't consistently reach the final four or win championships.

The discussion highlights the challenges and expectations of coaching a high-profile college basketball program like Kentucky.

The conversation suggests that even with a roster full of talented players, winning a national championship is not guaranteed and depends on various factors.

The debate includes the impact of the college basketball landscape changes, such as the portal, on coaches' success.

The discussion points out the high standards and pressure associated with coaching at a blue-blood program like Kentucky.

The conversation reflects on the legacy and future prospects of coaches like Calipari and the importance of adapting to the evolving dynamics of college basketball.

Transcripts

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to the men's game now ky's John Cal

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Perry finalizing a five-year deal to

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coach Arkansas according to our Pete

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thill and Jeff Bello the deal is

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expected to be completed in the next 24

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hours Cal Perry is the second highest

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paid coach in the country at Kentucky

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only behind Kansas's Bill self earning

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more than 8 and a half million per year

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Cal had a lot of success early on at

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Kentucky advancing to the final four

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four times in his first six seasons and

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winning the title in 2012 but things

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have gone South the last few years

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culminating with a loss to Oakland in

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the first round of this year's NCAA

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tournament Jay will joining the show now

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live from Arizona Steph are you

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surprised that Cal left Kentucky for

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Arkansas I'm shocked I was shocked

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because Arkansas is not Kentucky um you

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know tradition wise and what have you

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first of all let me say USC is lucky

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Eric musim is a hell of a coach and he

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did a hell of a job they didn't make the

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NCAA tournament this season but in his

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five years there a couple of elite eight

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appearances three to the Sweet 16 he did

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a damn good job for that program and I

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think that uh he's going to do a hell of

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a job at USC so congratulations to him

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but kapari succeed him I know that

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kapari is is is is Friends uh with one

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of the alumni members that happens to be

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a billionaire uh at from Arkansas I get

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that part and maybe that had a lot to do

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with this but I think that the reason

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I'm shocked is because Kentucky is blueb

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is blue blood but in the end I I just

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listen I I love kipari I've known him

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for close to 30 years um but he's

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underachieved over the last decade uh

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haven't made it to a final four since

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2015 hasn't won a national championship

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since 2012 was the only Championship

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he's the national championship he's won

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despite getting the final fours over six

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years and I'm going throw this out at

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you Jay and Shannon in calipari's first

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six seasons at Kentucky they won 83.7%

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of their games they had three 35 win

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Seasons they had four final four

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appearances and they won a national

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title in his last nine years he's

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dropped by 11% in winning percentage and

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zero in every category the 35 wins the

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final fours the NCAA titles and when

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you're at Kentucky and you see North

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Carolina and Duke keeping themselves

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relevant even when they don't win

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they're knocking at the door they're in

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the mix and over the last four years

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you've had two first round exits to a

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number 14 and a number 15 seed you

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didn't make the tournament once and then

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you got to the second round and that's

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all you have to show for it at Kentucky

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they were saying it's unacceptable and

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there was Rumblings about kipari so it

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does give you the impression that he's

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running away from something rather than

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be pushed out even though they weren't

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going to push him out because they would

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have owed him a $33 million buyout but

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in the end it still found I found myself

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shot Jay Shannon because to go from

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Kentucky to Arkansas that's not about a

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better opportunity as much as it is a

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better environment for you because the

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environment where you were evidently

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soured on you and that's why you left

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that's the impression that I've gotten I

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don't know anything I haven't reported

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on it I haven't talked to anybody about

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it but that's the impression that I

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walked away with when I heard this news

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last

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night Stephen A and ank I I just want to

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say it out loud and very slowly so we

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can let it all just marinate you know I

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know you like to cook we going let that

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meat marinate in these good uses for a

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second okay go ahead okay yeah all right

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John calip Perry the second all-time

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winningest coach in Kentucky basketball

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history Stephen A you can tell me about

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the lack of success over the last couple

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years in the tournament my man has won a

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championship he's gotten to four final

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fours now Bill self has won two

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championships Dan Hurley is about to win

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two if he's able to get it tonight ain't

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too many two championship dudes out

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there a a lot of one championship guys

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out there okay with the success he's

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okay has left Kentucky for Arkansas yeah

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has left Kentucky

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basketball for Arkansas no disrespect to

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Arkansas I love Nolan Richardson I love

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40 minutes of hell I was a Scotty

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Thurman fan but left

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Kentucky Arkansas yeah

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yeah that's all I'm saying here like so

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I I everybody's going to say well you

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know this is a great move who y'all

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going to replace him with yeah who who

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who they going to replace him with

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everybody keeps telling me Oh

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underachieved give me a name is Jay

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Wright gonna come out of his cush job

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for CBS because every time I hear Jay

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Wright talk about coaching he's like man

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that's stressful is Billy Donovan gonna

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leave Chicago even if the situation

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isn't great to come down to Kentucky

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like that's the job you GNA I would if I

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was Billy

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Donovan Stephen A Jay can I ask you

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this yes hell I can I can I can come out

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of my job and get down in the first

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round lose to Oklahom Oakland I can lose

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hold on you talk about who you going to

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replace hold on out out you said there's

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not a whole lot of guys to win national

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champions how about this for a roster 35

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first round picks since he's been to

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Oklahoma Anthony Davis dein Booker Shay

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gilis Maxi Randall John Wall bam Murray

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blo DeMarcus Cousins Carl Anthony Town

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Derek Rose number one overall draft

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picking Dereck Rose number one overall

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draft picking car towns Anthony Davis

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John Wall and you give me one title if

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Nick Sabin if Kirby Smart if dbos s with

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all the guys they put in the first round

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game different game different game

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different game Shannon different game

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when you go to college football playoffs

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you go to win two games you win two

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games you got win six games here and by

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the way the co towns team they were

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undefeated they lost in the chip they

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lost in the final for to Wisconsin

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random I hear what all y'all saying

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about the tal

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okay go ahead go ahead J I can get I can

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get any coach to go to the SEC and make

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the NCA tournament and get kicked out

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just like Cal did now you so when he

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went to when he went to Kentucky did he

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say we gonna get all these guys all

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these guys are gonna be number one picks

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or did he say he gonna hang banners like

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Mr rup did or is he gonna do what JB

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Hall did continue was he gonna do with

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uh what's it tubby Smith they got tubby

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up out of there

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why didn't I get him up out of there

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tubby Smith won a title why didn't tubby

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get the state they ran JB Hall up out of

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there why didn't he get the state why do

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Cal get the state because he gets five

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first rounde five star five star five

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star why did he get the state Jay just

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ask me why did he get to State all all

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I'm saying is sometimes you don't know

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how good you got it until it's gone all

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right well and I think there are certain

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level of people that cuz ky's been so

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relevant I caught a lot of flack this

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year when I was like oh they're like the

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Dallas Cowboys of college basketball not

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saying that the lack of success in the

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tournament I'm talking about the fact

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the relevancy of how we talk about them

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every single day because of the brand

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names brand names can always translate

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the championship now every single year

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you got to win a championship or if you

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Ain winning championships you're

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considered a bum I'm just saying it

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don't don't diminish how great it C's is

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second alltime winning his coach in

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Kentucky basketball history Shannon next

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to Adolf Ru I got off R of water at my

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house that says something though that's

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all I'm saying J Jay Jay let me let me

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say this

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bro I respectfully disagree with you I'm

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not saying and no one should say kipy is

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a bum kipy has been a great coach kire

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has been a great coach we understand

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what his resume entails the respect is

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given and the g the college basketball

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landscape has changed particularly

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because of the portal and I think that

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you know what he might be in a better

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situation than Arkansas for all we know

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but here's the point

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he wouldn't think about leaving

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Kentucky had he been more successful the

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Rumblings down in Lexington existed

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because it's been since

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2015 so there is Credence to Shannon's

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point that if you're at a program like

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Kentucky and you're getting all of these

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festar

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recruits one should be able to expect

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that in a 9-year span

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you'd at least visit the final four

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again you're talking about the last four

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years they didn't even make it to the

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Sweet 16 now you got you you got to take

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you got to take that into consideration

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there's no way to get around that Jay

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four years at the University of Kentucky

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and you can't get to the Sweet 16 nine

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years and you can't get to the final

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four let alone win a National

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Championship that does matter and all of

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a sudden it can get to a point point

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where those festar recruits that you got

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will suddenly be held against you

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because when do we stop looking at

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youngsters looking at their youth as an

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excuse at some point in time isn't it

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you it's got to be you especially when

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we're talking about great coaches a

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shashy a Roy Williams a self and others

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I'm talking now J I'm not talking about

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a national championship I'm not talking

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about that I'm talking about not not

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even the sweet 16 that's what I'm saying

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that's a problem man I I I I all those

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are factual essay I I'm not disagreeing

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with you on the facts brother all I'm

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trying to say though in comparison we

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had two coaches in the final four I know

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Nate oats is hot right now with the way

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he's won I just saw them two months ago

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man like they they were nowhere close to

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that team we had Kevin Keats in the

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final four that dude was about to be

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fired so like sometimes lightning in

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bottles occur and I hear that but I'm

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looking at the totality of the work and

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by the way everybody's like well you

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just can't win with young players y they

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had an old team two and a half years ago

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stacked with transfers so like he's done

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it different ways It's just sometimes

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it's hard to win the tournament it

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doesn't always translate Coach K only

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have five of them man I mean he had five

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we're not talking always Bill self has

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two we're not talking just got his

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second two years ago we're not talking

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his second two years ago yeah yeah but

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we're not talking national titles and

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we're not talking always we're saying

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that over the last nine years you

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haven't even been to a final four and

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over for the last four years you haven't

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even gotten to a sweet 16 I'm saying

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when that comes about we talk about Kip

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per like those things are impossible to

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occur but they have occurred and we

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can't ignore that that's all I'm saying

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okay who you replacing him with well

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here's and you know what my response is

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what Shannon said in this regard if

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you're not even getting to a sweet 16 at

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the University of Kentucky there's a lot

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of coaches I can replace you with

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there's a lot yeah guess what guess what

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he's the second winning this coach all

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time and he has the same number of

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national championships as tubby Smith at

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Kentucky he's the second win in this

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coach all time he has the same number

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Championship as JB Hall so tell me what

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am I getting for eight and a half

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million what am I getting or I get a B I

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get a bunch of five stars and do what

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get bounced in the first round get

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bounced in the second round is that what

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I'm getting so guess what if I can get

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bounced in the first or second round I

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can get me a coaching paying $4 million

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and do that I hear you Shan all I'm

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saying I remember a day in time when

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people were about to go hard on Jay

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Wright people were saying oh Jay Wright

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can never win it and then he lightning a

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bottle Chris Jenkins boom boom boom he

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makes two now he's on the all time

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winning his coaches I'm just saying

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there there's luck that goes into he

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wasn't at Kentucky with the top two

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recruiting class in the nation we got

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leave J one more jay jay jay jay he's

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winning National Championship with

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Jaylen Bronson Josh Hart Dante Jinzo you

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get you got Anthony Carl Anthony towns

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you got Anthony Davis you got John Wall

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Boogie cous muray Shay Gil come on he

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won it with ad he won it with ad with C

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that got all to the final four they were

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undefeated they were undefeated and lost

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in the four point point made first

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class that's why left St a he didn't

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want that pressure well that's that's

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different Shannon that's different now

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he want that pressure combo that's a

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different combo Kentucky had 35 first

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round draft picks during his how many 35

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Jay du was second with 27 Jay before we

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let you roll uh who do you have tonight

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you're going Purdue or Yukon and you two

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answer later in the show so your spad

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molly I'm going your spad molly I'm

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going your gonna be Clos they get it

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done Dan Hurley's the face of college

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basketball next year that's what he is

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we know it better happen because if it

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doesn't Molly is just going to be

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miserable to America I bet you won't

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come to work

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Shannon Shannon you you Conor the field

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don't forget about that bet I have that

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tap to we the yuk here today how come to

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we the Yukon I wanted to C South

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Carolina today I wanted South Carolina

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to have their moment you know I showed a

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lot of shoulder it was you know yeah

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yeah

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[Music]

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yeah