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convet good morning unless maybe you're

a Laker fan it is time to skip the BS

time for Undisputed it's time for Paul

and keesan Johnson and I to dive deep

into what happened last night in Denver

what a down to the wire battle this was

what a great playoff game it was to

watch unless maybe you're a Laker

fan you see why I didn't want him to

play yesterday when y'all gave me the

news of the potential injury and

questionable that's why I didn't want to

play that is it okay Paul tip us off

here was Jamal the biggest reason the

Nuggets won this game and closed out the

Lakers I mean not the biggest but

definitely a huge piece because of the

two games he won down the stretch but

just top to bottom skip Denver is just

more talented to the

Lakers uh they execute down the stretch

obviously in close situations and that's

what teams who won championships do they

understand who they are

but I will say this about the Lakers I'm

looking at the way ad played and the way

LeBron played in this series if they had

have played any other team in the

playoffs they would have won the series

I believe I mean you don't get no better

than what ad did I mean if you tell me

if you don't look at the scores and you

say Ad averaged 28 and 15 in this series

Braun averaged about 26 five and eight

and you got 17 from Reeves and about 13

14 from D will you be like oh that's a

recipe for

success but because it's the defending

champ s who are you have to outplay for

you have to outplay them clearly for 44

minutes because if the game is close

we've all see what happens down the

stretch with Jamal Murray and Joker so

it's just showing me that this team is

not rattled by

leads uh this team is not rattled by

star power they're the Champs and they

go out and show it each and every night

it's tough to beat them at home

and when I look at Jamal Murray and he

says I you know I had a strin c and when

you look at the playoffs I see chrisis

porzingis has a strin cap he's set out

he's out rest of the game seems like

Giannis might not even play this year in

the playoffs with a strin

Cav did they say Dam Lillard out a strin

c too no he's got ailles oh his is

Achilles whatever okay but this just

shows me what type of person that Jamal

Murray is and the reason that we will

see

Denver back in the finals this year

because a guy like him who's your leader

goes out there for his team in a game to

where they saying we need this game can

you step up one more time you'll get

some

rest we don't want to fly to

LA and he got the job done just when

they needed

so that shows me the championship

pedigree that this team has

and it just shows me a level that

they're on mentally

that they're just tougher than a lot of

teams in this league and ylc Minnesota

which is be should be a pretty good

matchup I like the matchup but I just

think the experience of the divver

Nuggets is going to be too much for him

and nobody's talking about Michael

Porter Jr this is your third option who

averages 22 points a game it's big

that's huge on 48% from from three yeah

55 from the field not too many teams is

going to beat you when your third option

is doing those type of numbers so hats

off to the Denver Nuggets and I brought

something for Kean today you know I know

he likes green yeah uh it's a oh you

who's your daddy green who's your daddy

t-shirt so okay and Celtic green with

who's your Daddy on man are you are you

done yeah I'm done there you go

bro y'all not out the weed yet either

but anyway is a fact yeah even though

yall even though y'all won the game

y'all not out the weed y'all got to

finish the deal up in Boston before you

getting there and not winning you you

come on now you satisfied with getting

there and not winning cuz right now if

Boston is going to get there they gonna

have to beat de I thought we was talking

about the Lakers no but you you started

started with we was talking about the

Lakers right yeah cuz the last time

Denver saw Boston Boston went home with

L just saying I thought we was talking

about anyway skip you say I think your

up was the biggest reason the Nuggets

won this game was it Jamal is that the

the obvious biggest reason or was it

it's the it's obvious right uh yesterday

you mentioned that he wouldn't play

potentially he had a little deal going

on and I said good because I'm rooting

for any opportunity to to have my

Lakers extend and serious I knew if he

played it was going to be rough you know

you you you you're never going to root

for a uh athlete as a fan or even as a

player to be injured right but at the

same time if he gives us the edge

because he's hobbled which is okay I'll

take that I'll take hobble but he wasn't

hobbled he wasn't hob especially the

fourth quarter when he knocked down the

two threes in the fourth quarter and

then he was five and nine in the fourth

gave him 12 points I mean it just what

quarter what quarter was that right

there that dum that was a four oh heug

he didn't shrug the shoulders did he

yeah he did that's usually what I see

LeBron do he shrug the shoulders and

Jamal Murray was on a mission though

Paul I mean he was he was literally on

the mission and you could tell based on

him playing in the game he says Hey

I'mma play so I'm G come out here and

give my all now if you want to start to

dive into other aspects of the game I

don't believe and I hate to dive on

coaches but I don't believe sometimes

coaches

they make these mistakes or not

necessarily mistakes but they do things

that will not necessarily cost you the

game skip but it contributes to costing

you the game and I think dwan ham is uh

guilty of that at times throughout this

game when you look at the challenge

early in the first quarter okay do I be

smart like Mike Malone and never

challenge even though my guys are

telling me to challenge and I get these

timeouts later on that was an Austin

Reeves Challenge and obviously at the

end of the last game that the Lakers won

LeBron threw a fit and he didn't

Challenge and he kept the two time out

in his back was up 15 though I I

understand that but but it's certain

things he asked

about why yeah Jamal Murray was the main

ingredient but there's other factors

that contributed to the loss the Second

Challenge came with 305 left and they

lost their last time exactly Second

Challenge comes on the Block to yic so

now we win that but but we don't have a

timeout to get to midc court you know

and even even prior to that midc Court

debacle I'm sitting there on my in my

living room and I said to myself like

damn we Ain got no timeouts how we going

to if they score how we going to be able

to advance it there's nothing we can do

right and so in the end there's so many

different contributing factors to why we

lost the game Anthony Davis gets hurt

and then all of a sudden he's a

different player he's running down up

and down the court with an arm you know

what happened to and Davis he got poked

in the in the in the um whatever man

they they brushed up against I know I

know he bumped shoulders they brushed up

against him and he fell to the ground I

just like what did they say it was like

a stinger or something it look I think

it it might have been based on them

putting the heat on their shoulders

based on what the camera said so look in

the end skip it this was a Jamal Murray

like you said calf strain game it was

and then then how could for the life of

me he brings the ball up the court they

run the same cap that they ran on us the

first time he hit it on a fake pick and

roll and then he just keeps going ad's

caught in between the first one went to

the right and this went to the left to

the left and and now skip he's caught

ad's caught in between do I Slough off

on Joker fo because of if I do that he

going all the way to the cup and he

probably going to dunk on Reeves and and

LeBron again or do I make him pull up so

the lesser of two evils I made him pull

up he knock it down three seconds to go

we don't have a timeout we lose the game

I mean I think the way the fourth

quarter was gone you got to get the ball

out of Murray's hands you had to you

have to I mean I know you're you're

leaving Jo open but I honestly say I

like what Mike Malone was doing as a

coach though in certain situations I I

get even though I'm not a fan I like

what he did I I I do I like what he did

as a coach he is in control of his team

okay all right here I go I've told kesan

this I'm going to tell Paul this now in

my career and it's been a long career

the the biggest issue I've had in trying

to analyze basketball football baseball

whatever is how hurt is a player because

you don't know and you don't know and

even in your wheel wheelchair game

nobody knew exactly how hurt you were I

still do this moment I don't know how

hurt you were but you got up and you

finished right and you won the game

right all right so last night pretty

early in the third quarter it's 10 what

is it 1056 left so it's just it's it's

like 11 minutes are left in the third

quarter MH and the Lakers are up six

points and AD just banged shoulders with

Michael Porter Jr and it looked like

nothing to me it looked like the kind of

play that happens like almost every play

down the floor seriously seriously I

mean you got bang shoulders every time

down the floor like this happens

literally every possession of every NBA

game that kind of play happens and AD

goes down like he got shot right and and

he stays down and I think he is really

really hurt but I don't know because I

don't know and neither do you guys know

exactly what was experiencing at that

point I've always said I think I told

kesan this I wish I had some machine

whereby we all could put our hand in it

for like 30 seconds and feel exactly

what ad was feeling at that point and

maybe kesan would say that's nothing or

maybe kesan would say or Paul would say

God he can't go there there's no in in

defense yeah of Anthony Davis and I'm

GNA try to build a case for him in this

situation on TV as you know skip

it's a lot slower than in person yeah

those dudes are big Paul's big man

running into Paul he a big dude running

even

though full 6' s them dudes are bigger

than Paul so when they running into each

other on TV I'm being honest though on

TV it's not as fast as in person that

bang bang hit for a guy that's not

really expecting it that's not uh uh

clutching himself embracing himself

could

be severe enough to where he falls on

the ground like he just got shot I me

but Anthony has too many cases of this I

understand long

history I understand that skip I'm just

trying to defend him I understand in

this case because it could maybe he

deserves to be defended I don't know but

I do know this Jamal Murray was told by

his medical staff you just can't risk it

tonight let's save you for the next game

and he says I got to be out there with

my brothers because if I don't go out

there're going to lose this game and he

was correct they would have lost without

him clearly right and yet here's ad and

to his credit because he fought through

a lot of injuries and you brought up the

stat all year long he played he played

and he played but this was a case where

you need to to me this is my outside in

perspective you need to suck it up and

show your teammates I'm coming back with

a vengeance now I I'm going to take this

game over I'm going to fight through

this and instead he did come out on the

floor and he goes and stands in the

corner with his arm down for the first

couple of possessions arm and he's

running up the floor and he's dragging

his arm with him and he becomes a

liability on both ends of the floor we

got to have him on there because Jackson

understand I he he was overmatched when

Jackson haes came in Joker just toying

with like he knew what he was doing man

he had no idea he had no idea so I'm I'm

with you you'd rather have him out there

than not 100% but he actually became a

liability on both ends cuz he couldn't

move he couldn't lift his arm his

Stinger whatever it is above his

shoulder but sometimes having guys like

that standing around his cardboard

cutouts like in an aisle in the grocery

store all it's all you got at all you

got okay and to LeBron's credit he

sucked it up and reached down at that

point and tried to save the game he did

but it was unsavable because you're

playing four on five basically for the

rest of the third quarter and I look up

and lo and behold the six-point lead

becomes a five-point lead for Denver

with a minute left in the third and they

went on a run where they detonated or

redated the crowd yeah and I said the

Lakers just lost the game because of

that quote unquote injury whatever it is

I don't even know it's a stinger that's

how they described it whatever it was

that's where you lost the game because

it's going to be hard to fight them off

because they're too good in the fourth

quarter and you held them off in the

fourth quarter at least you played them

even wasn't it yeah it's 27 in the

fourth quarter but you lost it through

that stretch right there where you got

outscored where it goes from your six up

to their five up and it's going to be

hard to play uphill against Jamal Murray

in the fourth quarter he's just too good

he he is the flip side of LeBron because

if you look at his numbers for the the

five games they're they're not very good

he he shot for the five games he shot he

shot 29% from three he was 10 of 34 all

I can remember is him making big shots

down the stretch because like it's the

flip side of LeBron where for three and

A2 quarters three and 3/ qu quarters

LeBron is just Unstoppable and then down

the stretch would you rather have a

Jamal or or Lebron well in this series

Jamal's just a little bit better than

LeBron closing mean LeBron walked off

walked into that three and knocked it

down I thought we was cooking he tried

it again I'm like man come on man don't

do it again to me okay and then he tried

another one and hit nothing but back

that's why I said I didn't I okay you

tripping now okay but to LeBron's credit

down the stretch with 26 seconds left he

put his head down and drove it because I

always say they can't stop him nobody

can stop he should have been fouled on

one of them I I understand he should

have been fouled but he was fouled with

26 seconds left and to his undying

credit he went to the free throw line

and he ripped them both and all of a

sudden the game is tied but you know and

I know the inevitable is about to happen

Austin Reeves plays his tail off

especially on the offensive end but he

can't guard Jamal because you know why

I'm not sure many people can guard Jamal

in the fourth quarter he is hard to

guard but that's another reason why he's

not he's not on the Lakers to guard him

though that's not why he's that's not

why he's on the Lakers cuz he he's the

guy who can guard Jamal Murray but but

you know what on the shot that won the

game Austin Reed gets picked off and he

takes a hard shot from Joker but then he

he actually recovered I thought his cont

I thought that was about as good as

defense you can play on that got I me f

over and then he challenges up he was

all over

him again if ad doesn't slide to the

middle he dunks that going away well

sure he going to yam that on him going

away you know that going to dunk this he

going to dunk it all day long because

LeBron ain't in position to challenge

you by the time he get in the air look

at that Paul by the time he going to

accelerate if ad doesn't slide and

Slough off on uh the Joker right there

man has been going off all quarter you

have to do something different he going

he going to accelerate right at the dot

dot dot and dunk that thing I mean he

didn't hit a three he didn't hit a layup

he didn't dunk you got to get the ball

came real close to getting finger tips

on ball he I'm serious he would have

been he would have been okay ad allowed

him to to get back in it by a sluffing

all if ad stay on Joker Jamal going

right to the cup I got it I I he did it

again he put you in a precarious situ

soon it was in his damn hands I knew he

was going to knock it down all right but

I still say if ad does not get hurt if

he doesn't bang shoulders I think you're

going to win the game and I think you

might win it going away I agree because

ads Chang he he was more aggressive

prior to the shoulder injury at even

going at Joker he was more aggressive

once he got hurt it it just changed

everything help me out here how many

points did ad score in the second half

how about one he scored one point he

made the one one shot Z One Shot okay

help me out if if if he can just give

you five or six points are you going to

maybe win and now to your challenge

issue and we'll get to darham a little

later in the show whether he's going to

be back next year but the point is if if

you don't challenge there you you really

can't challenge there I know you're

trying to to give in to your players and

you got ad out there he's you talking

about you talking about in the first

quarter no 305 left it's the one where

you got to save your last time out for a

shootout no I understand I understand

that but my my whole point behind this

though H skip is I'm not challenging at

the start of a damn game well there you

go too why am I challenging at the start

of the game no okay so you get two

points you you were correct on both of

them yeah I don't but it's the start of

the game I understand and yet with 305

left and I thought that was a debatable

challenge I was surprised they won the

challenge because I thought ad would

just fouling the hell out of him body

and push and shove that was a block man

I I didn't he wrapped his arm around him

but not to the point where it changed

his shot well they won and they lost

it's it's like you won the battle and

lost the war because listen if they had

had a timeout to inbound with three and

a half seconds left from their end I

like their chances I I just do I think

somebody maybe Austin Reeves comes up

and makes a shot I don't know or even

maybe DLo gets it in that situation Al

I'm glad you brought him up because it's

hard to overcome the fact that that that

he is two two of 10 from

three good right now so here's what just

blows my mind the Lakers got outs scored

by 18 points from the three-point line

cuz they're plus six thanks to D's two

of 10 we shot 28% yeah so they 42% okay

it's hard to hang in a game like that

but they did it still went down to the

last shot and even look at the rebounds

well the re well one of the reasons it

went down to the last shot is because we

shot 27 free throws yeah okay yeah and

they shot nine the 27 to n that was it

and they they did turn it over 13 times

year eight exactly okay so you were

turning them over which kept you it it

just hit our damn free throws to though

and you missed free throws Austin Rees

missed a couple when he got fouled on a

three-point shot LeBron was there to

beat him the recipe was there to beat

him it was it was and so in in the

bigger picture of the series you you

realize that the Lakers were ahead or

tied 75 % of the time for five games and

for 69% of the five games they actually

were leading not just tied yeah in the

history of the NBA playoffs that's never

happened to a team that lost a series

because it can't it's like

mathematically impossible but it

happened in the end it came down to the

final five minutes of those those few

games games one two and especially five

then we got nothing out of game but at

the end of the day listen we can talk

about this all day long about they they

L for 75% of the

time they lost 12 out of 13 times to

them and it's been the same way every

single time it has like every single

regular season last year in the playoffs

this year in the playoffs yeah Lakers

Take the Lead fourth quarter that's why

I said if you don't clearly outplay the

Denver Nuggets for 44 minutes those last

four minutes they're going to own you

cuz they know they have Jamal Murray

Joker down the stretch and if you leave

kcp open he'll hit it if you leave

Michael Porter Jr open he'll knock it

down and don't leave Aaron Gordon right

there for the live I mean they just a

well oiled machine we close though they

no 12 out of 13 is not close no no I'm

talking about just in general we we if

you can

get what we got out of this year from

our two stars if we can get that we

close we just got to figure out what

else around us man level okay what if

Jared Vanderbilt had been healthy for

this series you don't think they could

have used him on Jamal Jared Vanderbilt

would have flipped the tie of this

series defensively though man just

defens like 15 minutes talk to me about

a a impact player talk to me about a

superstar impacting this game don't tell

me slowing the guy down who he gonna

slow down Jamal Murray yeah he can take

him no no you don't think he don't have

a reputation for being an all defensive

player I don't know if we don't if we

ain't talking about somebody that build

an all defensive player of the year uh

all defense first second or third team

then I don't want to hear

it I mean that's his role on the team

but he ain't one of them guys that we

gonna say year in and year out on the

all defensive team we talking about this

we a don't matter like you ain't

talking about somebody that would have

changed the series and it's not talking

about we just talking about our help man

we we're talking about getting our depth

and our help that's all we were so close

even if he was healthy they not going

that deep into the playoff you know

rotation they playing eight guys eight

nine guys but they didn't have Rish

either he be reddish probably wouldn't

have played either I don't know I mean

you got toan Prince play all right Hayes

probably wouldn't have played come on SO

Paul I appreciate your T-shirt who's

your daddy but I I will I will tell you

I don't believe that Michael Malone if

they win at all at the victory prayed

this year I don't think he'll say we're

the Lakers daddy cuz I don't think he

thinks it I don't think he 12 out of 13

why I know but these games

were I beat you 12 out of 13 times you

you're my son I think he feels fortunate

to get out of this one unscathed we beat

the Lakers nine eight out of nine in the

playoffs 12 out of 13 he he I wouldn't

be shocked if the whole team had them

t-shirts

on well they act like they won a World

Championship last night closed it out

got a green one for

you okay it's your size too you gotta

you gotta make sure that y'all get to

the championship though you gotta make

sure that Paul seriously this ain't got

nothing to do with the sh got something

to do this about Denver being a Lakers

daddy well if you get there and you

don't win then what do they gonna be

your damn daddy n no this is about

Denver is the Lakers daddy Paul if you

had Derek white last night I think the

heat would have been your daddy no I'm

going find out how many times it's that

time of year again time to wonder thanks

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