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Summary

TLDRThe video script details a high-stakes trial involving Donald Trump, where Hope Hicks, a former aide, provides key testimony. Hicks, who had a close relationship with Trump, discusses the handling of the infamous Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. The trial aims to establish a link between campaign activities and potential election interference. Additionally, the script covers a congressman's indictment on bribery charges, severe weather events impacting Texas, and the development plans for a new city in California by tech entrepreneurs, which has sparked local controversy.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“ฐ Tom Costello is substituting for Hallie Jackson, reporting on breaking news about Donald Trump's trial and Hope Hicks' testimony.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฃ Hope Hicks, former aide to Donald Trump, is a key witness in the trial, having worked closely with him during the campaign and White House tenure.
  • ๐Ÿ—“ The infamous Access Hollywood tape from October 2016 is a focal point, as it allegedly led to a series of events including hush money payments.
  • ๐Ÿค Hope Hicks' loyalty to Trump is highlighted, but it's noted that she hasn't spoken to him in two years, indicating a potential shift.
  • ๐Ÿšจ Prosecutors aim to establish a link between campaign activities and alleged criminal conspiracy to influence the 2016 election.
  • ๐Ÿ’ญ Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney, is portrayed negatively by Hicks, who questions his motives and actions.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ There's a discussion on the jury's perception of Hicks' credibility and the potential impact of her emotional testimony.
  • ๐Ÿข The trial touches on Trump's business practices and his close involvement in the operations, as opposed to a passive role.
  • ๐ŸŒŽ An American tourist faces up to 12 years in prison for inadvertently bringing ammunition to Turks and Caicos.
  • ๐ŸŒช Texas is experiencing its ninth straight day of tornado activity, with warnings of more severe weather to come.

Q & A

  • Who is Tom Costello substituting for in the news report?

    -Tom Costello is substituting for Hallie Jackson.

  • What significant event took place during the trial of Donald Trump?

    -Hope Hicks, former aide to Donald Trump, provided key testimony which is considered a significant event in the trial.

  • What was Hope Hicks' role during Donald Trump's campaign?

    -Hope Hicks served as the Press Secretary during Donald Trump's campaign.

  • Why is the Access Hollywood tape relevant to the case against Donald Trump?

    -The Access Hollywood tape, on which Trump made vulgar comments about women, is relevant as it led to a potential crisis during the campaign. Prosecutors allege that this crisis prompted a series of actions, including hush money payments, which are central to the case against Trump.

  • What is the current status of the alleged affair between Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels?

    -Stormy Daniels claims she had an affair with Trump, to which he denies. The case involves alleged hush money payments and is part of the charges against Trump for falsifying business records.

  • What is the significance of Hope Hicks' emotional reaction during her testimony?

    -Hope Hicks' emotional reaction could potentially influence the jury's perception of her credibility and the sincerity of her testimony.

  • Why did Hope Hicks call Michael Cohen regarding the Access Hollywood tape?

    -Hope Hicks called Michael Cohen to inquire if there was another tape that would require damage control, indicating a concern about the potential impact on the election.

  • What is the current stance of Hope Hicks in relation to Donald Trump?

    -Hope Hicks has not spoken to Donald Trump in two years, indicating a distance in their relationship since her departure from the White House.

  • What is the nature of the charges against a sitting Congressman mentioned in the news report?

    -The sitting Congressman, Henry Cuellar, and his wife are charged with accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes from foreign groups, which could lead to a life sentence.

  • What is the current situation in Texas regarding severe weather?

    -Texas is experiencing a severe weather situation with tornadoes and flooding. The state is on its ninth consecutive day of tornado activity, and the Houston area is bracing for a long weekend of more intense flooding.

  • What is the controversy surrounding the plan to build a new city in California?

    -The controversy involves a group of developers called California Forever who plan to build a new city from the ground up. Local residents are concerned about the process, alleging they were misled by the developers, and there are ongoing legal and zoning disputes.

Outlines

00:00

๐Ÿ“ฐ Trump's Trial and Hope Hicks' Testimony

The news report covers the ongoing trial of Donald Trump, focusing on Hope Hicks, a former aide who was close to Trump. Hicks, who once led Trump's campaign and held top roles in his administration, has not spoken to Trump in two years. Her testimony is considered a significant moment in the trial. Prosecutors are particularly interested in the events surrounding the release of the 'Access Hollywood' tape, where Trump was caught making inappropriate comments about women. Hicks stated that she was unaware of the tape until a reporter informed her, and that it was considered a crisis at the time. The report also mentions the alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, who claimed to have had an affair with Trump, which is directly related to the charges against him.

05:03

๐Ÿค” The Role of Michael Cohen and Hope Hicks' Credibility

The segment discusses Michael Cohen's role in the campaign and his portrayal as a 'fixer'. Cohen was not officially part of the campaign but was known to volunteer his services due to his interest. The defense team attempts to discredit Cohen, suggesting he acted independently and beyond his remit. Hope Hicks' testimony is highlighted as credible for both the prosecution and defense. She is seen as loyal to Trump and his family, while also being privy to the inner workings of the campaign. Her emotional response during cross-examination is noted, and legal analysts discuss how this might be perceived by the jury. The discussion also touches on the significance of the Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent payments made to silence allegations against Trump.

10:04

๐Ÿข Trump's Involvement in Business and Campaign

This section debates whether Trump was a passive figurehead in his business or an active micromanager. The prosecution argues that Trump was intimately involved in all business aspects, which supports their case that he would have been aware of and directly approved any illicit transactions. The defense, however, paints a picture of Trump as a CEO who signs checks without being involved in the details. The discussion also covers the potential impact of Hicks' testimony on the jury's perception of Trump's involvement in the campaign and his business dealings.

15:05

๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Hope Hicks' Press Duties and Media Strategy

The narrative explores Hope Hicks' role in managing communications during Trump's campaign. It is revealed that she and Stephen Miller were among the few initial staff members, and Hicks had significant responsibility right out of college. The Trump campaign's media strategy is characterized as being driven by Trump himself, with Hicks often relaying his statements directly to the press. The discussion suggests that this unorthodox approach was effective, as it dominated media coverage and didn't require traditional advertising.

20:07

๐Ÿ’ฌ Trustworthiness of Hope Hicks' Testimony

This part of the script questions the reliability of Hope Hicks' testimony, considering she admitted to telling 'white lies' while working for Trump. Despite this, she is portrayed as having maintained her credibility, even among those in Trump's circle. The discussion also involves the potential impact of her testimony on the case and the broader implications for Trump's legal challenges.

25:08

๐Ÿ’ธ Trump's Campaign Finances and Legal Issues

The segment touches on Trump's campaign finances, noting that he is significantly behind the Biden campaign in terms of fundraising. It also discusses the potential for Trump to gain ground with a broader group of constituents, despite his legal issues. The conversation suggests that Trump's focus on his base might not be enough to overcome his financial and legal challenges.

30:11

๐ŸŒช๏ธ Texas Tornadoes and Flooding

The report shifts to severe weather events in Texas, detailing the occurrence of tornadoes and the anticipation of more flooding. The region has been experiencing extreme weather conditions, causing significant damage and prompting evacuation orders. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by residents and businesses in the affected areas.

35:12

๐Ÿ›๏ธ Indictment of a Congressman

The script covers the indictment of a sitting congressman, Henry Cuellar, and his wife, on bribery charges. The charges allege that they accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes from foreign groups. The indictment follows a raid on Cuellar's home and campaign office and could result in a life sentence. Cuellar denies the allegations and still plans to run for reelection.

40:12

๐ŸŒŽ International News Overview

The segment provides a brief overview of various international news stories. These include a tuberculosis outbreak at a hotel in Long Beach, California, with one death and several hospitalizations; a curfew imposed in Newark to address rising crime rates; the discovery of snakes in a passenger's luggage at the Miami airport; and the increasing presence of sea lions in San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf.

45:14

๐Ÿšจ Legal Consequences for Travelers

The report discusses the case of an American tourist detained in Turks and Caicos for accidentally bringing ammunition in his luggage. The tourist faces up to 12 years in prison, highlighting the importance of being aware of the laws in different countries when traveling.

50:15

๐Ÿข New Town Development Controversy

The script covers a controversy over plans to build a new city in rural California. The developers, California Forever, have collected signatures to put the project to a vote. However, local residents have concerns and feel misled by the developers. The story explores the tension between the need for new housing and the impact of rapid development on existing communities.

55:16

๐Ÿ‡๏ธ Safety Concerns at the Kentucky Derby

The segment addresses concerns over the safety of horses at the Kentucky Derby following the deaths of 12 horses connected to last year's race. Changes have been made to improve safety, including the use of new risk assessment tools and the incorporation of an anti-doping regimen.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กDonald Trump

Donald Trump is the 45th President of the United States and a central figure in the video's narrative about a trial and testimony related to alleged misconduct. The discussion revolves around his actions during the 2016 presidential campaign and subsequent White House tenure, highlighting his close relationship with Hope Hicks and the controversy surrounding the 'Access Hollywood' tape.

๐Ÿ’กHope Hicks

Hope Hicks is portrayed as a key witness in the trial, having served as Donald Trump's press secretary and later a top advisor. Her testimony is crucial as it pertains to the alleged scheme to suppress embarrassing stories, which is directly connected to the charges against Trump.

๐Ÿ’กTrial

The trial is a legal proceeding where Donald Trump is involved, with the video focusing on a significant day of testimony. It is mentioned in the context of dramatic moments and the examination of Hope Hicks, emphasizing the high stakes and public interest in the case.

๐Ÿ’กAccess Hollywood Tape

The 'Access Hollywood' tape refers to a 2005 video in which Donald Trump made vulgar comments about women. In the script, it is highlighted as a pivotal moment that led to discussions about damage control and is directly linked to the charges against Trump.

๐Ÿ’กStormy Daniels

Stormy Daniels is an adult film actress who allegedly received hush money payments to keep quiet about an affair with Donald Trump, which he denies. Her involvement is significant as it is tied to the counts of falsifying business records that form part of the case against Trump.

๐Ÿ’กMichael Cohen

Michael Cohen is mentioned as Trump's former attorney who arranged payments to Stormy Daniels. His actions and credibility are questioned in the video, with implications that his testimony could be a key element in the trial's outcome.

๐Ÿ’กPerjury

Perjury, or the act of lying under oath, is a serious offense that is central to the charges against Donald Trump. The video discusses the potential legal consequences of falsifying business records, which is related to the allegations that Trump's team lied about the payments to Stormy Daniels.

๐Ÿ’กCampaign

The campaign refers to Donald Trump's 2016 run for the presidency. The video script discusses the inner workings of the campaign, particularly the communications strategy led by Hope Hicks and the efforts to manage negative press.

๐Ÿ’กWhite House

The White House represents the office of the President of the United States and is mentioned in the context of Hope Hicks's service during Trump's tenure. It is significant as it places the alleged actions within the scope of Trump's official duties and the public trust.

๐Ÿ’กTestimony

Testimony in this context refers to the evidence given by Hope Hicks under oath during the trial. Her account of events is crucial to understanding the behind-the-scenes actions of the Trump campaign and White House, and it carries significant weight in the legal proceedings.

๐Ÿ’กDamage Control

Damage control is a strategic response to minimize harm to reputation or public perception. In the video, it is discussed in the context of the Trump campaign's reaction to the 'Access Hollywood' tape and the alleged payments to Stormy Daniels, highlighting the attempt to manage and mitigate potential political fallout.

Highlights

Donald Trump is on trial with a key witness, Hope Hicks, providing testimony that could be crucial to the case.

Hope Hicks, former aide to Trump, breaks down during her testimony, indicating the emotional weight of the proceedings.

Prosecutors aim to establish a link between the campaign and alleged criminal conspiracy to influence the 2016 election.

The infamous Access Hollywood tape is a focal point, with questions arising about its potential impact on Trump's campaign strategy.

Damage control mechanisms, including alleged hush money payments, are scrutinized in relation to their legality.

Hope Hicks' credibility is noted by both the prosecution and defense, highlighting her importance as a witness.

The relationship between Hope Hicks and Michael Cohen is explored, with Hicks casting doubt on Cohen's character.

Trump's involvement in his business operations is a key issue, with differing narratives presented by the prosecution and defense.

The jury's perception of sincerity in witness testimony, particularly regarding emotional displays, is discussed.

Legal analysts consider the strength of the prosecution's case and the potential implications of Hicks' testimony.

The role of Vice President Mike Pence in relation to the case is examined, with insights from former Chief of Staff.

The political and legal implications of the trial on Trump's public image and potential campaign strategies are analyzed.

Concerns about the safety and treatment of horses at the Kentucky Derby are raised following a series of horse deaths.

The introduction of new technology and anti-doping measures at the Derby aim to improve horse welfare.

A California man is indicted for threatening Fulton County DA Fani Willis, underlining issues of online harassment and threats against officials.

The U.S. economy's job growth and unemployment rate are discussed, with potential impacts on Federal interest rates.

The search for missing Australian surfer brothers and their American friend in Mexico intensifies, with new evidence and leads.

Transcripts

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BUT THE NEWS CONTINUES WITH TOM

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COSTELLO WHO IS IN FOR HALLIE

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JACKSON RIGHT NOW.

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>>> I AM TOM COSTELLO IN FOR

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HALLIE JACKSON WITH BREAKING

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NEWS SPECIAL REPORT.

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DONALD TRUMP ON TRIAL IN

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PERHAPS THE BIGGEST BOMBSHELL

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DAY OF TESTIMONY YET.

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DRAMATIC MOMENTS AS THE WOMAN

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WHO HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO

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EVERYTHING THAT THIS TRIAL WAS

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ABOUT, BREAKS DOWN APPEARING ON

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THE STAND.

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HOPE HICKS, AND AID TO THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT AND WHO HE

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REALLY TREATED LIKE A DAUGHTER.

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SHE LED TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WHEN

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THE ALLEGED SCHEME TO PLACE. A

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VERY EMBARRASSING STORY AND

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THAT WAS BEFORE HE BROUGHT HER

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TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR SOME OF

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HIS TOP ROLES BUT NOW SHE HAS

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NOT SPOKEN TO TRUMP IN TWO

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YEARS.

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TODAY PROSECUTORS WANTED TO

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KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE

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SCENES WHEN THIS MOMENT MADE

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HEADLINES.

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THE INFAMOUS ACCESS HOLLYWOOD

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TATE.

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CAUGHT ON CAMERA MAKING VULGAR

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COMMENTS ABOUT ASSAULTING WOMEN.

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HOPE HICKS WHO WAS HIS PRESS

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SECRETARY SAID SHE DID NOT KNOW

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ABOUT THE TAPE UNTIL SHE HEARD

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FROM A REPORTER THAT THERE WAS

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A CONSENSUS AT THE TIME THAT

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THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CRISIS.

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THE BIG QUESTION.

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WHY DOES THAT MATTER FOR THIS

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CASE NOW?

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WE WILL HIT THE REWIND BUTTON

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TO GO THROUGH THAT.

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SHE SAYS SHE CALLED MICHAEL

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COHEN TO ASK IF THERE WAS

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ANOTHER TAPE THAT WOULD NEED

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DAMAGE CONTROL.

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THAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER 2016

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AND LATER THAT MONTH,

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PROSECUTORS SAY DAMAGE CONTROL

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KICKED IN WITH THE ALLEGED HUSH

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MONEY PAYMENTS TO STORMY DANIELS

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WHO CLAIMS SHE HAD AN AFFAIR

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WITH TRUMP.

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HE DENIES IT. AND THAT THIS IS

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THE REASON WE ARE HERE RIGHT

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NOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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FACING 34 COUNTS OF FALSIFYING

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BUSINESS RECORDS TO WHICH HE HAD

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PLEADED, OF COURSE, NOT GUILTY.

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FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES WE WILL

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TAKE YOU INSIDE OF ALL THE

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ROOMS THAT CAMERAS COULD NOT BE

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IN TODAY.

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IF YOU WERE NOT GLUED TO EVERY

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WORD COMING OUT OF COURT OR IF

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YOU HAD OTHER THINGS TO DO,

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DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

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WE'VE BEEN ON IT AND WE HAVE

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THE DETAILS.

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OUR TEAM OF REPORTERS AND

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POLITICAL AND LEGAL EXPERTS ARE

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READY TO BREAK IT DOWN.

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EVERYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO

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KNOW INSIDE AND BEHIND THE

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SCENES AT THE TRUMP TRIAL.

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WE ARE STARTING LIVE OUTSIDE

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THE COURTHOUSE IN MANHATTAN. AND

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YASMIN, THEY WANT HOPE HICKS

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TO CREATE A DIRECT LINE FROM

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EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE

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CAMPAIGN TO, IN THEIR WORDS, A

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CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO

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INFLUENCE THE ELECTION IN 2016.

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DID THAT HAPPEN TODAY?

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>> OF THEIR OBJECTIVE WAS TO

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CREATE MOTIVE.

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THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE

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PROSECUTION IN THE LEAD UP OF

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THEIR TESTIMONY WITH HOPE

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HICKS.

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THEY BUILT THAT TIMELINE. I

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DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER

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WHETHER THEY-- WHETHER IT

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CREATED THE DIRECT LINE.

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THAT IS UP FOR THE JURY TO

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DECIDE BUT THEY BUILT THIS IDEA

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OF AN INDIVIDUAL, A MAN RUNNING

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FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES IN 2016 AND THE

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REVELATIONS OF THIS ACCESS

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HOLLYWOOD STAGE IN WHICH HOPE

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HICKS WOULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL

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SAYING THERE IS AN ACCESS

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HOLLYWOOD TAPE OUT THERE.

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DO YOU HAVE STATEMENTS YOU WANT

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TO RELEASE PERTAINING TO THOSE?

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SHE RAN UP TO TRUMP TOWER IN

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WHICH THEY WERE PREPARING FOR

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DEBATES A COUPLE DAYS LATER AND

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TALKED WITH THE TEAM ABOUT THE

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REVELATIONS OF THIS TAPE AND

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THE VERACITY OF IT.

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IT WENT ON FROM THERE TO THE

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END OF OCTOBER IN WHICH PAYOUTS

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WERE MADE, PAINTING A PICTURE

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OF A MAN RUNNING FOR ELECTION

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FOR RESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES THESE DETAILS KEPT QUIET

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AND NOT SURE IF THEY WERE GOING

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TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.

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ELECTION.

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>> ARE WE GETTING THE KEY

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ELEMENT, THE DIRECT CONNECTION

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OF INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ALLEGED

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SCHEME?

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BECAUSE SHE DID NOT HAVE A LOT

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OF POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT

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MICHAEL COHEN.

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>> SHE DID NOT.

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LET ME READ SOME OF THE BACK

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AND FORTH FOR YOU IF I CAN.

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SPECIFICALLY SHE SAID I DIDN'T

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KNOW MICHAEL TO BE AND ASK

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ESPECIALLY CHARITABLE PERSON.

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IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO TAKES

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CREDIT.

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TRUMP THOUGHT IT WAS GENEROUS

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OF HIM TO DO AND HE APPRECIATED

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THE LOYALTY.

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MICHAEL FELT LIKE IT WAS HIS

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JOB TO PROTECT HIM.

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THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO THE

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ARTICLE ABOUT THE PAYOFF TO

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STORMY DANIELS.

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IN CROSS-EXAMINATION IT GOT

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EVEN BETTER WHEN IT CAME TO

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MICHAEL COHEN, ASKED WAS MISTER

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COHEN PART OF THE CAMPAIGN?

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HE SAID NO, HE WOULD TRY TO

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INSERT HIMSELF BUT WAS NOT ON

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THE CAMPAIGN IN ANY OFFICIAL

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CAPACITY.

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THERE WERE THINGS HE DID IN A

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VOLUNTARY CAPACITY BECAUSE OF

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HIS INTEREST, AND THEN THIS

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MOMENT WHICH DROVE THINGS HOME

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FOR THE DEFENSE I BELIEVE.

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HE LIKES TO CALL HIMSELF A

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FIXER OR MISTER FIX IT AND IT

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WAS ONLY BECAUSE HE FIRST BROKE

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IT.

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ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS I

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HAD A FROM HER TESTIMONY WAS

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THAT SHE WAS CREDIBLE FOR BOTH

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SIDES.

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BOTH FOR THE PROSECUTION AND

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THE DEFENSE.

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THE PROSECUTION PAINTING THIS

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WOMAN WHO WAS LOYAL TO DONALD

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TRUMP BUT ALSO NEW OF THE INNER

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WORKINGS OF THE CAMPAIGN.

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SHE SERVED AS SOMEONE PAINTING

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS A

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FAMILY MAN WORRIED ABOUT

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EMBARRASSING HIS FAMILY AND HIS

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WIFE.

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>> WE ALSO MENTIONED THAT HICKS

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BECAME EMOTIONAL ON THE STAND.

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REMEMBER THEY HAD NOT SPOKEN

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FOR YEARS.

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WHAT DID THE NBC COLLEGE IN THE

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COURTROOM SEE IN TERMS OF THE

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DYNAMICS AND THE INTERPLAY, IF

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THERE WAS ANY, BETWEEN TRUMP

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AND HICKS?

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>> AT THE BEGINNING OF CROSS

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EXAMINATION SHE GOT FAIRLY

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EMOTIONAL AND TOOK A MOMENTARY

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BREAK TO ALLOW HER TO GATHER

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HERSELF.

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AND THEN SHE REENTERED FOR HER

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CROSS-EXAMINATION.

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I TAKE AWAY FROM THAT MOMENT

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WAS CONSIDERING THE HISTORY

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THAT SHE HAS WITH THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT, AT 25 YEARS OF AGE

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SHE TOOK A JOB IN 2014 WITH THE

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TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND TWO

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YEARS LATER SHE WAS A TOP

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ADVISER.

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INCREDIBLY LOYAL NOT ONLY TO

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS WELL AS

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HIS FAMILY BUT IN 2022 THE

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FAMILY-- THE RELATIONSHIP

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SOURED BECAUSE OF HER TESTIMONY

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OF THE EVENTS LEADING UP TO

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JANUARY 6. THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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WAS WATCHING TESTIMONY DIRECTLY

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THROUGH THE MONITORS AND MAKING

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EYE CONTACT WITH HER DIRECTLY

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DESPITE THEIR CLOSE

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RELATIONSHIP FOR SO MANY YEARS.

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>> INTERESTING.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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YASMIN VOSSOUGHIAN ON SITE IN

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MANHATTAN.

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LET'S NOW GO TO LEGAL ANALYST

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DANNY CEVALLOS AND GEORGETOWN

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CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR

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MICHELLE GOOD ONE.

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DANNY, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF

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THAT EMOTION.

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HOW MIGHT A JURY REACT TO THAT

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EMOTION AND DID IT APPEAR

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SINCERE?

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>> I THINK IT APPEARED VERY

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SINCERE.

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HOPE HICKS DID NOT NEED A LOT

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OF HELP ON THE CREDIBILITY

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METER BUT OF COURSE THAT SHOW

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THE MOTION-- AND JURORS ARE

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GOOD AT TELLING WHETHER

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SOMETHING IS SINCERE OR NOT.

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THE ENTIRE JURY SYSTEM IS

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PREMISED ON THE IDEA THAT WE

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ARE ALL HARDWARE TO WITH THIS

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TRUTH AND LIE DETECTOR ABILITY.

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THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE JURY

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SYSTEM IS.

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PEOPLE ASSESSING CREDIBILITY OF

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OTHER REGULAR FOLKS AND

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DECIDING WHO TO BELIEVE AND WHO

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NOT TO BELIEVE.

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SO EMOTION CAN GO ONE OF TWO

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WAYS.

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IT CAN BE CREDIBLE IN SOME

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CONTEXTS AND COMPLETELY

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INCREDIBLE IN OTHERS.

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BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL

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PICTURE OF HER TESTIMONY, I

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THINK A SHOW OF EMOTION

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PROBABLY CAME ACROSS AS VERY

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GENUINE TO THIS JURY BASED ON

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THE FACT THAT SHE REALLY DID

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NOT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ISSUES

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LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER

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PROSECUTION WITNESSES.

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>> LET'S GO TO PROFESSOR GOOD

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ONE.

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YOU'VE BEEN READING NOTES ALL

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DAY. WE ARE READING THE NOTES

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BACK AND FORTH.

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DOES IT APPEAR THAT THE

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PROSECUTION DID A GOOD JOB OF

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CONNECTING THE DOTS FROM THE

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ACCESS HOLLYWOOD TAPE ALL THE

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WAY THROUGH TO THE TIME IN THE

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WHITE HOUSE?

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>> THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO

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DO AND THE FACT THAT HOPE HICKS

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APPEARED CREDIBLE FOR BOTH

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SIDES IS ACTUALLY, COULD BE

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ARGUED TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS

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SUCCESSFUL FOR THE PROSECUTION.

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MUCH OF THE BACKDROP OF THIS,

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SOME PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS IS

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POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, WHAT'S

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TAKING PLACE.

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IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMIND

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PEOPLE THAT THESE ARE 34 FELONY

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COUNTS.

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THESE ARE FELONY COUNTS

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ASSOCIATED WITH THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT DOING BUSINESS IN NEW

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YORK, SO IT'S NOT RELATED TO

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JANUARY 6, IT'S NOT THAT KIND

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OF POLITICAL HYSTERIA THAT HAS

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BEEN FRAMED BUT RATHER, HE IS A

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BUSINESSMAN AND MUST COMPLY

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WITH THE BUSINESS LAWS OF NEW

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YORK.

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THAT IS WHAT THIS STEMS FROM.

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SO THE HUSH MONEY TRIAL ITSELF,

09:22

HUSH MONEY COULD BE SOMETHING

09:23

THAT IS A MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE.

09:24

WHY THIS IS BEING ELEVATED TO

09:27

FELONY COUNTS IS BECAUSE THE

09:28

ALLEGATIONS BY THE PROSECUTORS

09:30

IS THAT THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO

09:32

CONCEAL SOMETHING MORE.

09:36

>> IT SEEMED TO SUGGEST THEY

09:39

WERE VERY MUCH FRONT AND CENTER

09:40

THINKING ABOUT THE ELECTION.

09:42

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

09:44

IN OCTOBER WITH THIS SALACIOUS

09:45

VIDEO DEAL, HEARING THE FORMER

09:50

PRESIDENT FOR THE ELECTION

09:52

EXPLAINING HOW HE GRABS WOMEN,

09:54

ABOUT HOW HE VIOLATES WOMEN,

09:55

ABOUT HOW HE HAS NO

09:57

CONSIDERATION AND DOES IT ALL

09:57

THE TIME.

09:59

THE FEAR THAT THERE COULD BE

10:01

MORE ALLEGATIONS SUCH AS THAT

10:03

COMING OUT. AND LET'S BE CLEAR,

10:06

THIS IS A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO

10:08

HAS ALREADY BEEN FOUND GUILTY

10:11

OF HAVING VIOLATED SOMEONE AND

10:14

MANY ALLEGATIONS OVER TIME.

10:17

>> DANNY, THERE ARE THESE

10:19

COMPETING IMAGES OF THE FORMER

10:23

PRESIDENT HERE.

10:24

ONE THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PUSH,

10:27

THAT HE IS JUST THE GUY WHO

10:28

SIGNS THE CHECKS AND THERE'S

10:29

ALSO THE ONE THAT HOPE HICKS

10:32

DESCRIBES, OF TRUMP WHO IS

10:33

INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN EVERY

10:36

ASPECT OF HIS BUSINESS AND LIFE.

10:38

WHICH PICTURE IS COMING OFF AS

10:39

MORE COMPELLING OR MORE

10:41

DOMINANT?

10:41

>> THERE ARE REALLY TWO

10:42

AVENUES.

10:44

TRUMP AS THE BOSS OF A LARGE

10:47

CORPORATION THAT REQUIRES

10:49

MINIONS WHO ACT INDEPENDENTLY

10:51

AND THEY HAND HIM CHECKS AND HE

10:54

SIGNS THEM.

10:55

THAT WILL BE THE VIEW OF THE

10:57

WORLD BY THE DEFENSE, AND THEN

10:58

THE PROSECUTION WHICH IS THAT

10:59

DONALD TRUMP IN THIS CLOSELY

11:00

HELD FAMILY COMPANY WAS A

11:02

MICROMANAGER AND WAS ON TOP OF

11:04

EVERYTHING. SO REALLY ONLY ONE

11:08

OF TWO CHOICES ARE AVAILABLE TO

11:10

THE JURY.

11:11

SO FAR THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT IN

11:12

PLENTY OF EVIDENCE.

11:14

AND SOME OF IT HAS SNUCK IN.

11:16

BUT THE IDEA THAT HOPE HICKS

11:20

CONVEYED WAS THAT DONALD TRUMP

11:21

WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS INTIMATELY

11:23

INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE

11:23

BUSINESS.

11:24

THAT IS GOING TO HELP THE

11:26

PROSECUTION MAKE THE CASE THAT

11:27

ONCE THEY'VE PROVEN THE

11:30

TRANSACTIONS, IT IS SOMETHING

11:31

THAT DONALD TRUMP NOT ONLY

11:33

WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT WOULD

11:34

HAVE HAD TO HIM PROVE.

11:36

NOT PASSIVELY BUT DIRECTLY

11:41

APPROVE. ONLY ONE OF TWO IS

11:44

TRUE.

11:45

>> THE DEFENSE REALLY PLAYED

11:46

HARD ON THIS IDEA THAT MICHAEL

11:48

COHEN DESCRIBES HIMSELF AS

11:49

MISTER FIX IT.

11:50

DOES IT HELP THE DEFENSE OR

11:54

HURT THE PROSECUTION?

11:56

>> WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO

11:58

IS SAY THAT HE IS SOMEONE WHO

11:59

HAS POOR CHARACTER OR CANNOT BE

12:01

TRUSTED.

12:01

THIS IS SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP

12:03

HAS SAID, USING THE TERM LIAR

12:04

TO DESCRIBE MICHAEL COHEN.

12:05

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO LEAVE

12:06

THE JURY WITH.

12:07

SOMEONE WHO EXCEEDED WHAT THE

12:09

BOUNDARIES WERE OF WHAT HE WAS

12:11

CALLED TO DO AND IS NOT

12:15

SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE

12:17

CAMPAIGN AT ALL.

12:18

SO ANYTHING HE DID WAS PRETTY

12:19

MUCH ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY

12:21

KIND OF GUIDANCE OR ANY WAY

12:22

IMPLICATING DONALD TRUMP.

12:23

>> THE IDEA WAS THAT HE WAS

12:24

ROGUE?

12:26

>> THAT'S THE IDEA AND WHETHER

12:30

THAT IS SUCCESSFUL BEFORE THIS

12:32

JURY REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

12:34

>> THANK YOU PROFESSOR GOODWIN

12:35

AND DANNY CEVALLOS.

12:36

BOTH GREAT INTERPRETATIONS AND

12:37

ANALYSIS.

12:38

HOPE HICKS PLAYED A KEY

12:40

COMMUNICATIONS ROLE AT HIS

12:43

COMPANY IN HIS CAMPAIGN AND THE

12:45

WHITE HOUSE.

12:45

HER TESTIMONY TODAY WAS ALL

12:49

ABOUT HOW THEY GOT THE MESSAGE

12:51

OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

12:52

FOR MORE ON THAT LET'S BRING IN

12:54

WASHINGTON POST MEDIA CRITIC.

12:55

ERIC, AT ONE POINT SHE WAS

12:58

ASKED ABOUT HER PRESS DUTIES

13:00

DURING THE 2016 CAMPAIGN ASKING

13:03

IF THERE WERE-- WHAT ABOUT THE

13:04

TEAM AROUND HER?

13:06

SHE SAID IT WAS QUOTE JUST ME

13:10

AND MISTER TRUMP.", WE WERE ALL

13:14

JUST FOLLOWING HIS LEAD.

13:15

SHE WAS RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, A

13:17

LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR

13:18

SOMEONE THAT AGE.

13:20

DOES THAT SUGGEST THAT HE HAD

13:23

INTENSE CONTROL OF MESSAGING

13:24

WITH HOPE HICKS AT HIS RIGHT

13:25

HAND?

13:25

>> WELL THAT'S CORRECT.

13:28

I THINK TO THAT POINT, HISTORY

13:30

BEARS OUT EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS

13:32

SAYING. AT THE TIME IT WAS

13:35

CLEAR THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN

13:38

WAS NOT REALLY MUCH IN TERMS OF

13:40

YOUR TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN.

13:42

IT WAS VERY SKELETAL, AND WAS

13:44

MAINLY A COMMUNICATIONS

13:47

OPERATION.

13:48

SHE WOULD PASS ALONG QUESTIONS

13:49

TO TRUMP AND THEY WOULD GET ON

13:51

THE PHONE AND TRUMP WOULD A

13:52

SICKLY LIST OFF THE TOP OF HIS

13:54

HEAD, THOSE QUOTES, MANY OF

13:57

THEM OUTRAGEOUS, THEY GO

13:59

STRAIGHT TO THE PAPERS AND ON

14:01

TO THE AIR.

14:03

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN REPORTERS

14:04

ARE SCRAMBLING TRYING TO FIGURE

14:06

OUT WHAT WAS TRUE AND WHAT WAS

14:07

NOT.

14:08

MOST OF IT WAS NOT BUT TRUMP,

14:11

THEY WERE FOLLOWING HIS LEAD IN

14:14

PART BECAUSE HE LIES LIES AND

14:15

LIES.

14:16

EVEN THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM WERE

14:18

NOT WILLING TO GO AS FAR AS HE

14:21

WAS AND THE OTHER THING HERE IS

14:25

THAT IT WAS WORKING. TRUMP WAS

14:29

EATING HIS RIVALS.

14:31

>> MICROMANAGING THE MESSAGING

14:32

ALL DAY.

14:34

>> ABSOLUTELY.

14:37

IT WAS A MEDIA DRIVEN CAMPAIGN.

14:40

HE WAS GETTING HIS RALLIES

14:44

COVERED BY CNN, I THINK MOST OF

14:46

THE CABLE INDUSTRY IS TAKING A

14:48

SECOND LOOK AT THAT BUT HE'S

14:50

GETTING ALL OF THIS STUFF

14:52

COVERED AND GOING STRAIGHT INTO

14:54

OTHER MEDIA.

14:55

IT WAS A REMARKABLE TIME AND NO

14:57

ONE WAS PREPARED FOR IT.

14:59

>> KNOWING ALL OF THAT, WHAT

15:02

CAN WE ACTUALLY TRUST FROM HOPE

15:04

HICKS AS SOMEONE WHO BACK IN

15:07

2018, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WORKING

15:08

FOR MISTER TRUMP OCCASIONALLY

15:10

REQUIRED HER TO TELL WHITE LIES

15:12

AND AS SOMEONE WHO OBSERVED HOW

15:13

SHE INTERACTED WITH THE MEDIA

15:16

AND THE PUBLIC, CAN WE TRUST

15:22

WHAT SHE SAYS NOW?

15:24

>> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LEARN

15:26

ABOUT WORKING FOR DONALD TRUMP

15:27

IS THAT SOONER OR LATER YOU ARE

15:28

GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE YOUR

15:29

RIGHT HAND.

15:30

SHE WAS UNDER OATH WHEN SHE

15:31

SAID THAT AND GAVE AN EXAMPLE.

15:33

A WHITE LIE WOULD WHEN I WOULD

15:34

SAY MISTER TRUMP IS UNAVAILABLE

15:35

WHEN A FAT-- WHEN IN FACT HE

15:37

WAS AVAILABLE.

15:39

BUT THE LIES COMING FROM THE

15:41

TRUMP ESTABLISHMENT WERE MUCH

15:44

MORE EGREGIOUS AND ESTABLISHING

15:47

AND ALSO MUCH MORE CREATIVE.

15:49

MANY PEOPLE ON THE AIR SAID

15:51

THAT HOPE HICKS MANAGED TO SORT

15:56

OF-- WITHOUT DAMAGING HER

15:59

CREDIBILITY.

16:00

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT

16:01

ASSESSMENT.

16:02

OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP

16:05

ORBIT SHE MANAGED TO, SHE WAS

16:07

NEVER SEEKING SPOTLIGHT, BUT

16:11

SHE DID MANAGE NOT TO GET

16:14

SLIMED WITH ALL OF THIS

16:15

PERSONALLY.

16:17

SHE WAS STRATEGIC CONSULTING

16:21

AND I AM NOT A LEGAL ANALYST

16:25

BUT AS FAR AS PEOPLE IN HIS

16:27

ORBIT I WOULD HAVE TO RANK HER

16:28

AMONG THE HIGHEST PEOPLE IN

16:29

CREDIBILITY.

16:30

GRANTED THAT IS A LOW BAR BUT I

16:33

WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

16:35

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

16:36

LET'S BRING IN OUR FORMER CHIEF

16:39

OF STAFF TO VICE PRESIDENT MIKE

16:41

PENCE AND DEMOCRATIC

16:44

STRATEGISTS.

16:44

YOUR TIME WITH HOPE HICKS

16:49

OVERLAPPED A LITTLE BIT AND AS

16:51

YOU WATCH HER TESTIMONY DOES IT

16:53

APPEARS SHE HAS ANY AGENDA

16:53

HERE?

16:55

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

16:57

I DON'T THINK SHE HAS AN AX TO

16:59

GRIND.

17:00

WHEN ASKED TO JOIN THE CAMPAIGN

17:04

IN SUMMER OF 2016, IT WAS

17:06

REALLY ONLY HOPE HICKS AND

17:07

STEPHEN MILLER AS THE TWO

17:10

STAFFERS.

17:10

>> IT WAS A REMARKABLE CAMPAIGN

17:13

BECAUSE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP

17:15

REALLY RAN IT HIMSELF. THERE

17:17

WAS A CAROUSEL OF VARIOUS

17:20

CAMPAIGN MANAGERS BUT THE TWO

17:25

STABLES WERE STEPHEN AND HOPE.

17:27

>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIDEN

17:28

CAMPAIGN LOOKING FOR ANY

17:29

OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY TURN

17:30

SOMETHING HERE FROM THIS

17:32

TESTIMONY INTO A CAMPAIGN ITEM

17:35

FOR THEM. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING

17:39

SO FAR THAT MAY WORK TO THEIR

17:41

ADVANTAGE?

17:42

>> AS OF TODAY, NO.

17:45

I THINK HOPE HICKS IS SOMEBODY

17:47

WHO HAS BEEN A STRATEGIST WITH

17:49

DONALD TRUMP FOR QUITE SOME

17:49

TIME.

17:50

SHE WAS FRESH OUT OF COLLEGE

17:54

WHEN SHE WENT TO WORK FOR THE

17:56

ORGANIZATION.

17:57

A LOT OF HER CAREER HAS BEEN

17:58

BASED ON LOYALTY TO DONALD

17:59

TRUMP AND TODAY ALL SHE

18:00

HONESTLY DID WAS FURTHER THROW

18:02

MUD ON MICHAEL COHEN WHICH

18:04

WE'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE DO.

18:06

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING

18:08

THUS FAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO

18:10

SHOWCASE ITSELF AS THIS IS A

18:12

SMOKING GUN WE CAN RUN WITH.

18:14

>> HE IS NOT LOOKING GOOD

18:18

COMING OUT OF THIS TRIAL.

18:20

CAN WE GO TO THE 35,000'?

18:22

NORMALLY TRUMP HAS FOUND THAT

18:24

HE CAN GET A BIT OF HIS BOOST--

18:26

A BIT OF A BOOST AT LEAST FOR

18:29

HIS SMALL, DIEHARD BASE WHEN HE

18:33

GOES THROUGH THE USE VARIOUS

18:34

LEGAL PROBLEMS.

18:35

HOWEVER HE IS PRETTY FAR BEHIND

18:37

THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN.

18:40

$90 MILLION SO FAR IN TERMS OF

18:43

HOW MUCH THEY'VE RAISED.

18:45

$165 MILLION CASH ON HAND AND

18:47

TRUMP IS QUITE A BIT BEHIND THAT

18:50

. DOES HE HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY

18:52

TO MAKE UP GROUND HERE WITH A

18:56

BROADER GROUP OF CONSTITUENTS

18:58

IN THE MIDDLE, OR IS HE

19:01

ISOLATED TO HIS FAR RIGHT BASE?

19:03

>> I THINK HE CAN MAKE UP

19:04

GROUND.

19:05

I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE AND

19:07

MORE REPUBLICANS WHO COME BACK

19:09

BUT IN 2016 HILLARY FAR OUTPACED

19:13

TRUMP AS WELL. HE RUNS A VERY

19:16

SMALL OPERATION AND HE GETS ALL

19:19

THE EARNED MEDIA THAT HE WANTS.

19:21

THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS ON THE

19:22

MONEY.

19:22

>> HE DOESN'T NEED

19:25

ADVERTISEMENTS.

19:26

>> I DON'T EVER THINK IT'S AS

19:28

BIG OF A DEAL AS SOME OF THE

19:30

MEDIA MAKE IT OUT TO BE.

19:31

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

19:32

>>> THIS MEDIA IS BIG BECAUSE

19:35

HE'S GOING DOWN TO MAR-A-LAGO

19:36

AND THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE

19:39

SO-CALLED DEEP STATE TO REPLACE

19:42

MIKE PENCE.

19:43

IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE HE'S

19:45

TRYING TO MAKE THIS LIKE AN

19:47

EPISODE OF HIS FORMER REALITY

19:48

TV SHOW.

19:48

HERE ARE SOME OF THE TOP

19:53

CONTENDERS. ANY ONE F THOSE,

19:55

WHAT ANY OF THOSE BE A DEMOCRAT

19:57

TOP CHOICE?

19:58

WOULD IT BE BETTER FOR THE

20:01

DEMOCRATS IF THEY PICKED ONE OF

20:01

THEM?

20:02

AND WHY DO IT THIS WAY?

20:07

IS IT ALL CREATING A SHOW AND

20:09

CREATING THE SAME KIND OF

20:11

EXCITEMENT THAT HE HAD ON HIS

20:12

TV SHOW?

20:14

>> I THINK HE RESONATES WITH

20:17

BEING ABLE TO MAKE A SHOW OUT

20:19

OF HIS VP CANDIDATE CHOICE.

20:21

WE RECOGNIZE THAT POLLING IS

20:23

WHAT IT IS AND THIS FAR OUT WE

20:26

SHOULD NOT PAY AS MUCH

20:27

ATTENTION TO IT AS THE MEDIA

20:33

DOES.

20:34

BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE

20:35

REGARDLESS AND FRANKLY WE KNOW

20:37

THAT VOTERS GO FOR THE TOP OF

20:38

THE TICKET, NOT THE VICE

20:38

PRESIDENT.

20:39

HE COULD CHOOSE ANY OF THOSE

20:41

PEOPLE AND AT THE END OF THE

20:42

DAY IS PEOPLE WILL STILL BE

20:43

THERE.

20:44

FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO YOU WOULD

20:46

THINK HE'S TRYING TO GRAB

20:48

OUTSIDE OF HIS BASE, IT'S GOING

20:49

TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

20:51

WE RECOGNIZE THAT HE SAID

20:53

OFFICIALLY HE WAS GOING TO

20:55

TRACK WOMEN'S PREGNANCIES IN A

20:56

PUSH TO BASICALLY QUELL ANY

20:59

ABORTION RIGHTS.

21:01

THAT IS FRUSTRATING AND I THINK

21:02

FOR WOMEN VOTERS IN PARTICULAR

21:03

THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WILL BE

21:06

LOOKING AT AS WE SEE ABORTION

21:08

RIGHTS RESTRICTIONS CONTINUE TO

21:08

EXPAND.

21:09

THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING

21:11

THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE WILL

21:13

STAND AGAINST.

21:15

THAT WILL HIT HIM HARD.

21:18

>> SUCH A LOCK ON HIS FAR RIGHT

21:21

BASE. HAS THAT EXPANDED AT ALL

21:25

AND DO YOU SEE IT EXPANDING?

21:30

THE COUNTRY IS PRETTY LOCKED

21:32

INTO WHO THEY LIKE AND DO NOT

21:33

LIKE.

21:34

>> I THINK THE COUNTRY IS VERY

21:36

POLARIZED AND SOMETHING CALLED

21:38

DOUBLE HEATERS ARE COMING UP

21:40

HERE FOR A PERSON WHO DISLIKES

21:42

BOTH WHO DO THEY VIEW AS LEAST

21:44

UNATTRACTIVE?

21:45

I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME

21:47

REPUBLICANS WHO CONTINUE TO

21:48

COME BACK TO TRUMP BECAUSE YOU

21:50

LOOK AT THE CHAOS ON CAMPUSES,

21:53

INFLATION AT THE BORDER. ONE OF

21:57

THE DIFFERENCES IS THAT IN 2016

22:01

HE DID NEED SOMEBODY TO RALLY

22:03

THE PARTY BEHIND.

22:04

HE DOESN'T NEED THAT NOW.

22:07

SO THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK

22:09

IS NOT AS CONSEQUENTIAL AS IT

22:10

WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO.

22:11

>> TO YOUR POINT PEOPLE VOTE

22:13

FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET AND

22:15

THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

22:19

IS LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, ALMOST.

22:21

>> IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ICING

22:23

ON THE CAKE BUT IT WILL NOT

22:25

MAKE OR BREAK THE TICKET.

22:26

FOR TRUMP HE'S DOING THIS AT

22:27

MAR-A-LAGO AND AUDITIONING

22:28

PEOPLE MORE SO FOR FUNDRAISING.

22:29

EVERY DAY HE IS IN THIS TRIAL

22:31

HE IS NOT ABLE TO CAMPAIGN AND

22:33

TO A POINT MADE EARLIER HE'S

22:36

ALSO GETTING A LOT OF FREE

22:38

MEDIA ATTENTION.

22:39

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

22:40

ADVERTISEMENTS BECAUSE THEY

22:42

COVER HIM 24/7.

22:43

>> IF YOU LIKE ANOTHER EPISODE

22:46

OF THE APPRENTICE. THANK YOU

22:48

VERY MUCH.

22:49

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPERTISE.

22:51

A LOT OF OTHER BIG HEADLINES TO

22:55

TELL YOU ABOUT TODAY.

22:56

WE WILL CATCH YOU UP WHEN WE

22:58

PICK UP REGULAR PROGRAMMING RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK.

23:02

THAT IS A NUMBER THAT IS JUST

23:04

SO HARD TO COMPETE WHETHER IT'S

23:05

THE MOON, WHETHER IT'S MARS.

23:07

>> IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF SOMETHING BIG.

23:19

>>> HERE WE GO.

23:20

>>> HERE WE GO.

23:21

TONIGHT, A BOMBSHELL INDICTMENT

23:22

FOR A SITTING CONGRESSMAN.

23:24

THE DOJ SAYS HE AND HIS WIFE

23:26

TOOK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

23:28

DOLLARS IN BRIBES FROM FOREIGN

23:31

GROUPS.

23:31

THE CHARGE COULD PUT HIM AWAY

23:33

FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.

23:36

>>> THE STATE IS BRACING FOR

23:38

MORE DEVASTATING FLOODING AND

23:39

POSSIBLY TORNADOES JUST AS THEY

23:41

STARTED TO PICK UP THE PIECES.

23:43

OUR TEAM IS IN THE THICK OF IT

23:44

THIS EVENING.

23:45

>>> AND THE PENNSYLVANIA MAN

23:48

WHO HAD A TIME OF-- WHO HAD A

23:51

TON OF AMMUNITION IN HIS BAG

23:52

WHEN HE ARRIVED AT TURKS AND

23:53

CAICOS.

23:54

WE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT HIS FATE.

23:57

THE JUDGE IS NOT TAKING, IT WAS

24:00

AN ACCIDENT, FOR AN ANSWER.

24:01

>>> A GROUP OF TECH

24:04

ENTREPRENEURS ONCE TO BUILD A

24:06

BRAND-NEW CITY IN A RURAL PART

24:08

OF CALIFORNIA FROM THE GROUND

24:08

UP.

24:09

WHY SOME SAY THEY ARE BEING

24:12

DUPED INTO GOING ALONG WITH

24:14

THAT PLAN.

24:15

GOOD DAY.

24:16

I AM TOM COSTELLO IN FOR HALLIE

24:18

JACKSON AND IN THE LAST FEW

24:20

HOURS, A HOUSE DEMOCRAT HAS

24:21

BEEN HIT WITH A SERIOUS FEDERAL

24:23

BRIBERY CHARGE AND CHARGES.

24:25

HENRY CUELLAR OF TEXAS AS WELL

24:28

AS HIS WIFE, CHARGED WITH ACCEPT

24:30

IN BRIBES FROM A COMPANY

24:32

CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF

24:33

AZERBAIJAN AS WELL AS THE

24:35

MEXICAN BANK.

24:37

PROSECUTORS SAY THE ENDGAME?

24:38

INFLUENCING POLICY TO BENEFIT

24:40

THOSE COUNTRIES AND THE BANK.

24:42

THE INDICTMENT COMES AFTER A

24:45

RAID ON HIS HOME AND CAMPAIGN

24:50

OFFICE IN 2022.

24:52

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FOOTAGE

24:53

RIGHT THERE.

24:54

AT ONE POINT HE WAS THE COCHAIR

24:55

OF THE CONGRESSIONAL AZERBAIJAN

24:56

CAUCUS AND IN A STATEMENT HE

24:59

DENIES ALL WRONGDOING SAYING HE

25:01

STILL HAS PLANS TO RUN FOR

25:03

REELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

25:04

THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS

25:06

SAYS HE WILL TAKE LEAVE FROM

25:08

ONE OF HIS ASSIGNMENTS BUT IT'S

25:10

NOT CALLING FOR THE INDICTED

25:15

CONGRESSMAN TO STEP DOWN.

25:17

HE BECOMES THE SECOND MEMBER OF

25:19

CONGRESS IN LESS THAN A YEAR TO

25:20

FACE BRIBERY CHARGES.

25:21

BOB MENENDEZ SET TO GO ON TRIAL

25:23

LATER THIS YEAR.

25:25

WE ARE FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS. WHAT KIND OF PICTURE DOES THIS

25:28

WHAT KIND OF PICTURE DOES THIS

25:33

INDICTMENT PAINT OF THE

25:41

CONGRESSMAN?

25:42

>> A SHAMEFUL ONE.

25:43

IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS HE TOLD HIS

25:45

OFFICE TO DO THE BIDDING OF A

25:46

FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AND CHARGES

25:47

INCLUDE AN ARRAY OF THE TYPES

25:49

OF CRIMES HE TYPICALLY SEE IN A

25:49

CORRUPTION CASE.

25:50

BRIBERY, FRAUD AND MONEY

25:51

LAUNDERING BUT THEN ADDS A

25:52

WRINKLE OF ACTING AS AN

25:53

UNREGISTERED AGENT OF A FOREIGN

25:54

GOVERNMENT.

25:54

THIS INDICTMENT SAYS HE WAS

25:56

DOING THE BIDDING OF THE

25:57

GOVERNMENT, PURSUING THEIR

25:58

FOREIGN-POLICY IN WASHINGTON

25:59

WHERE THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT

26:04

AGENDA. HE SAYS HE AND HIS WIFE

26:08

ACCEPTED NEARLY $6000 OVER A 10

26:09

YEAR PERIOD WHICH SEEMS LIKE A

26:11

LOT OF MONEY BUT ACTUALLY IS

26:11

NOT.

26:13

CONGRESSMAN CAN RETIRE AND EARN

26:15

THAT MUCH IN SIX MONTHS AS A

26:17

LOBBYIST.

26:18

BUT IT SAYS IT WAS LAUNDERED

26:19

THROUGH SHAM CONTRACTS PAID TO

26:21

SHELL COMPANIES OWNED BY THE

26:23

CONGRESSMAN'S WIFE WHO DID

26:24

LITTLE OR NO WORK. BUT THE

26:27

CONGRESSMAN AGREED TO TAKE

26:28

OFFICIAL ACTION IN EXCHANGE FOR

26:30

THIS MONEY.

26:31

NOW HIS LAWYER SAYS THAT THE

26:33

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DON'T HAVE

26:35

THE EVIDENCE TO ESTABLISH QUID

26:38

PRO QUO AND THESE CASES ARE NOT

26:41

EASY TO MAKE SO WE WILL HAVE TO

26:43

WAIT AND SEE HOW THIS PLAYS

26:44

OUT.

26:45

>>> WE SEE ONE STARK DIFFERENCE

26:47

IN THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE

26:49

NOT CALLING FOR HIS RESIGNATION

26:50

AND MASS.

26:51

WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT

26:53

COMPARING THE BOB MENENDEZ CASE AND HIS?

26:54

AND HIS?

26:55

>> CUELLAR IS THE SECOND IN THE

27:01

YEAR ACCUSED OF SELLING HIS

27:03

OFFICE ON BEHALF OF A FOREIGN

27:05

GOVERNMENT AND IN BOB MENENDE

27:07

, HIS CASE THE EVIDENT WAS STARK

27:12

AND WAS HIS SECOND CORRUPTION

27:13

CASE.

27:14

HE NARROWLY GOT OFF A FEW YEARS

27:16

AGO ON THE FIRST ONE.

27:18

GOLD BARS AND CASH FOUND IN HIS

27:19

HOME.

27:20

THE EVIDENCE WAS SO VISCERAL

27:21

THAT I THINK IT LEAD MORE

27:23

PEOPLE TO SAY HE NEEDS TO GO.

27:24

PEOPLE ARE SAYING LET'S WAIT

27:25

AND SEE.

27:27

THEY KNOW THAT THE CORRUPTION

27:29

CASE SOUNDS BAD WHEN YOU READ

27:32

THE INDICTMENT BUT THE JUSTICE

27:34

DEPARTMENT HAS TO SHOW EVIDENCE

27:36

THAT THE PAYMENTS WERE MADE IN

27:38

EXCHANGE FOR OFFICIAL ACTION AND

27:40

HENRY CUELLAR IS SAYING THAT IT

27:42

DID NOT HAPPEN.

27:44

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

27:46

>>> NEW BREAKING NEWS IN THE

27:49

LAST FEW MINUTES, A CONFORMED

27:51

TORNADO TOUCHING DOWN IN TEXAS

27:52

MEANING THE STATE IS HITTING

27:53

THE NINTH STRAIGHT DAY OF

27:55

TORNADO ACT OF IT HE WOULD YOU

27:57

CAN SEE RIGHT THERE.

27:58

TEXAS CAN'T CATCH A BREAK FROM

28:00

THESE TWISTERS.

28:03

A HUGE, MASSIVE CONE AT THE VERY

28:07

TIP OF THAT TORNADO AND THEY

28:10

CANNOT CATCH A BREAK FROM OTHER

28:11

KINDS OF BAD WEATHER.

28:14

HOUSTON RIGHT NOW RACING FOR A

28:16

LONG WEEKEND OF MORE INTENSE

28:17

FLOODING.

28:18

WHETHER EXPERTS ARE WARNING

28:19

LOCALS THAT YOU SHOULD EVACUATE

28:21

NOW IF YOU CAN, OR BE READY TO

28:23

STAY PUT FOR DAYS.

28:24

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN AND

28:25

AROUND HOUSTON ARE AT THE

28:28

CENTER OF ALL OF THIS DEALING

28:29

WITH FLOOD WATCHES RIGHT NOW.

28:31

THE EVACUATION ORDER COMES AFTER

28:32

THAT REGION TOOK A BEATING ON

28:34

THURSDAY WITH AS MUCH AS 12 "

28:39

OF RAIN. COMING DOWN ON SOME

28:41

PARTS OF TEXAS AND CAUSING

28:42

RIVERS TO OVERFLOW WITH INTENSE

28:43

FLOODING WHICH HAS LED TO SCARY

28:46

SCENES.

28:47

FOLKS PULLED FROM THEIR CARS

28:49

AFTER FLASH FLOODS CAME OUT OF

28:53

NOWHERE.

28:54

CONROE, TEXAS, WHAT ARE FOLKS

28:57

BRACING FOR WHERE YOU ARE

29:00

TONIGHT AND INTO THE WEEKEND?

29:03

>> TOM, THEY ARE BRACING FOR

29:05

MORE SEVERE WEATHER

29:07

UNFORTUNATELY AND I CAN TELL YOU

29:09

THE GROUND IS EXTREMELY

29:11

SATURATED SO ANY MORE RAINFALL

29:13

COULD MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

29:15

I CAN TELL YOU BEHIND ME THIS

29:18

IS NOT A LAKEFRONT HOME.

29:20

WE ARE TOLD BY THE PROPERTY

29:22

OWNER THAT THE SAN VICENTE

29:24

RIVER, YESTERDAY THE WATER

29:28

STARTED RISING AT 9:00 O'CLOCK

29:30

AND SHE HAD TO EVACUATE BECAUSE

29:32

THE WATER WAS RISING THAT

29:33

QUICKLY.

29:34

DISCOVERED HER ENTIRE PROPERTY

29:36

ROUGHLY 3 ACRES AND NOW IT

29:39

LOOKS LIKE A LAKE.

29:40

SHE GAVE US A TOUR INSIDE OF

29:41

HER HOME.

29:43

THE WATER CAME UP ABOUT 1 FOOT

29:46

AND FURNITURE IS DAMP WITH

29:49

MOISTURE AND THERE IS A HUGE

29:53

CLEAN UP AHEAD.

29:55

HOMEOWNERS PICKING UP THE

29:57

PIECES, CLEANING UP AND RACING

29:58

FOR MORE STORMS BUT BUSINESSES

29:59

ARE ALSO SUFFERING.

30:01

WE SPOKE WITH THE GM OF A

30:06

NURSERY WHO SAID HE LOST

30:08

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TREES,

30:10

PLANTS, AND SHRUBS.

30:11

>> IT'S AS THOUGH THEY OPENED

30:13

UP THE DAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

30:15

DAY.

30:15

WE JUST HAD TO WATCH OUR

30:18

BUSINESS FLOAT AWAY.

30:19

IT'S DEFINITELY TOUGH BUT WE

30:20

ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING TO

30:22

GET BACK INTO GEAR FOR

30:25

CUSTOMERS AND STAFF. THIS IS

30:28

EVERYBODY'S CAREER SO WE ARE

30:31

GOING TO TAKE IT SUPER SERIOUS.

30:34

>> WE WERE TOLD THAT REALLY,

30:37

THIS IS A BUSY TIME OF YEAR AND

30:40

THEY WERE RACING FOR LARGE

30:43

CROWDS BECAUSE THEY HAD A BIG

30:45

PROMO GOING ON BUT NOW THEY ARE

30:46

SPENDING THE DAY TRYING TO

30:47

SALVAGE WHAT THEY CAN AND

30:49

KEEPING THE EYES TO THE SKIES.

30:51

>> EVERYBODY REMEMBERS HER KING

30:55

HARVEY, THE STORM THAT BROUGHT

30:57

DEVASTATING FLOODS TO THE

30:58

HOUSTON AREA IN 2017.

30:59

I HAD FRIENDS WHO WERE

31:01

DEVASTATED BY THAT.

31:02

ANY LESSONS LEARNED THAT ARE

31:03

HELPING TO GUIDE OPERATIONS

31:04

RIGHT NOW?

31:06

>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU BRING

31:08

UP HURRICANE HARVEY BECAUSE

31:10

SOME FOLKS ARE DRAWING COMPARISONS.

31:11

COMPARISONS.

31:12

THAT WAS THE LAST SIGNIFICANT

31:17

NATURAL DISASTER AND A LOT OF

31:20

FOLKS ARE STILL RECOVERING.

31:22

THE HOMEOWNER WHO LIVES RIGHT

31:23

HERE SAYS SHE JUST FINISHED UP

31:24

REPAIRS NOT LONG AGO AND NOW

31:26

SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT

31:30

ALL OVER AGAIN SIX YEARS LATER.

31:31

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

31:33

LET'S GET YOU OVER TO THE FIVE

31:34

THINGS OUR TEAM THINKS YOU MAY

31:36

WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TONIGHT.

31:37

>>> DEMOLITION STARTED ON THE I

31:39

- 95 OVERPASS IN CONNECTICUT.

31:40

YOU MAY RECALL PARTS OF THE

31:42

HIGHWAY SHUT DOWN YESTERDAY

31:44

AFTER A FUEL TRUCK COLLIDED

31:46

WITH TWO OTHER CARS AND BURST

31:47

INTO FLAMES.

31:48

THE GOVERNOR SAYS HEAT FROM

31:51

THAT FIRE DAMAGED THE OVERPASS

31:53

SO CREWS HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE

31:54

BRIDGE ON THE CRITICAL

31:56

INTERSTATE AND DEMOLITION COULD

31:57

TAKE 24 HOURS OR MORE TO

31:58

FINISH.

32:00

THE HIGHWAY IS SET TO BE CLOSE

32:05

UNTIL MONDAY.

32:05

>>> THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

32:06

ANNOUNCING TODAY THAT A

32:07

CALIFORNIA MAN HAS BEEN

32:08

INDICTED IN ATLANTA FOR

32:10

THREATENING FULTON COUNTY DA

32:14

FANI WILLIS.

32:15

ACCORDING TO THE INDICTMENT, HE

32:17

POSTED MULTIPLE THREATENING

32:18

COMMENTS ON YOUTUBE AND THE DOJ

32:19

SAYS HE WILL BE ARRAIGNED NEXT

32:22

MONTH.

32:22

THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING.

32:23

>>> THE US ECONOMY ADDED FEWER

32:25

JOBS THAN EXPECT THE LAST MONTH

32:28

WHILE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GREW

32:29

. THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE GOOD

32:31

NEWS BECAUSE IT MEANS THE

32:32

ECONOMY IS SLOWING, WHICH COULD

32:33

ALLOW THE FED TO CONSIDER

32:36

CUTTING INTEREST RATES AS SOON

32:37

AS FALL.

32:39

>>> THE STOCK MARKET LIKE THE

32:43

NEWS AND RALLIED.

32:45

>>> BASKETBALL SUPERSTAR

32:46

CAITLIN CLARK IS GEARING UP TO

32:49

MAKE HER FIRST WNBA DEBUT.

32:52

HER TEAM, THE INDIANA FEVER

32:54

WILL PLAY THE DALLAS WINGS FOR

32:55

THEIR PRESEASON OPENER AND

32:56

CLARK WILL MAKE HER REGULAR

32:57

SEASON DEBUT WHEN THE TEAM PLAYS

33:00

THE CONNECTICUT SUN IN A COUPLE

33:02

OF WEEKS.

33:03

>>> SAN FRANCISCO'S FAMOUS

33:06

FISHERMAN'S WHARF NOW COVERED,

33:08

LOOK AT THAT.

33:10

COVERED WITH SEA LIONS.

33:11

MORE THAN 1000 HANGING OUT JUST

33:12

THIS WEEK.

33:14

THAT'S THE MOST THE WHARF HAS

33:15

SEEN IN 15 YEARS.

33:17

WHY?

33:18

THE HARBORMASTER SAYS THE SEA

33:20

LIONS ARE TAKING CHASING DOWN A

33:23

HUGE SCHOOL OF ANCHOVIES. ONE

33:26

OF THOSE SEA LIONS' FAVORITE

33:30

FOOD.

33:31

>>> THE STUNNING NEW DETAILS IN

33:34

THE RACE AGAINST TIME TO FIND

33:36

MISSING VACATIONERS WHO

33:37

MYSTERIOUSLY HAVE DISAPPEARED

33:37

IN MEXICO.

33:39

>>> THE ALMOST REMAKE OF SNAKES

33:42

ON A PLANE IN FLORIDA, ONLY

33:46

>>> KRISTEN WELKER HOSTS MEET

33:49

THE PRESS EVERY SUNDAY ON NBC.

33:55

>> WE ARE BACK. AN AMERICAN

33:58

TOURIST WAITING MONTHS TO LEARN

33:59

HIS FATE MUST NOW WAIT A COUPLE

34:01

MORE WEEKS AFTER HE SAYS HE

34:02

ACCIDENTALLY BROUGHT AMMUNITION

34:02

IN HIS LUGGAGE TO TURKS AND

34:03

CAICOS.

34:05

39-YEAR-OLD BRYAN HAGERICH

34:08

APPEARED IN COURT FOR THE FIRST

34:10

TIME SINCE HE WAS DETAINED BACK

34:11

IN FEBRUARY.

34:12

HE WAS HEADING HOME WITH HIS

34:13

FAMILY WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED AND

34:15

FACES UP TO 12 YEARS IN PRISON.

34:17

THE DECISION BY THE JUDGE IS

34:21

EXPECTED LATER IN THE MONTH AND

34:23

COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON OTHER

34:25

AMERICANS DETAINED ON THE

34:26

BRITISH TERRITORY FOR SIMILAR

34:28

REASONS.

34:29

SAM BROCK IS JOINING US NOW.

34:30

THERE WERE NO CAMERAS ALLOWED

34:31

IN COURT I UNDERSTAND.

34:33

WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED

34:37

AT THIS HEARING TODAY.

34:39

>> IN SOME RESPECTS IT WAS KIND

34:41

OF STUNNING BECAUSE I THINK THE

34:42

EXPECTATION WAS SURE, THERE'S A

34:43

MANDATORY MINIMUM OF 12 YEARS

34:45

AND IN ONE CASE, AN EIGHT MONTH

34:47

SENTENCE UNDER EXCEPTIONAL

34:51

CIRCUMSTANCES FOR 12 YEARS.

34:53

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE

34:54

PROSECUTOR ASKED FOR.

34:55

NOTHING LESS THAN 12 YEARS SO

34:57

HE WILL BE SENTENCED ON MAY 29.

34:58

I AM TOLD THE JUDGE HAS NOT

35:00

MOVED EITHER WAY BUT TO GIVE

35:04

YOU GENERAL CONTEXT, THIS WAS A

35:06

LAW CONSTRUCTED TO ROOT OUT GUN

35:08

VIOLENCE AND THIS WAVE OF

35:09

FIREARMS COMING IN TO TURKS AND

35:10

CAICOS FROM PLACES LIKE HAITI

35:11

AND THE US BUT WAS NOT MEANT TO

35:13

SWEEP UP DADS FROM OKLAHOMA AND

35:14

PENNSYLVANIA WHO CHECKED TO

35:14

THEIR BAGS.

35:15

TOOK THEIR BAGS THROUGH TSA

35:17

CHECK POINTS AND STILL MANAGED

35:18

TO GET AMMUNITION THROUGH THERE.

35:20

BUT IT WAS FOUND IN TURKS AND

35:25

CAICOS AND FOR SOMEONE LIKE

35:26

BRYAN HAGERICH AND RYAN WATTS

35:27

AND FACING THOSE VERY

35:29

CIRCUMSTANCES AS A RESULT OF

35:30

THESE PREVIOUSLY LIGHTER

35:31

SENTENCES.

35:32

THE PROSECUTOR SAYS YOU HAVE TO

35:36

ISSUE A JUDGMENT.

35:37

I WANT 12 YEARS.

35:39

WE TALKED WITH A SPOKESPERSON

35:41

ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN.

35:43

TAKE A LISTEN.

35:45

>> THEY ARE GOING TO MISS THEIR

35:48

KIDS GROWING UP IT'S PRETTY

35:49

OBVIOUS FROM THE RECORD AT THE

35:51

MOMENT THAT THEIR KIDS NEED

35:52

THEIR DADS.

35:53

TO HEAR ABOUT THE IMPACT

35:57

PARTICULARLY ON HE AND ASHLEY'S

36:00

DAUGHTER HAS BEEN PROFOUND FOR

36:01

ME.

36:02

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT EXCEPTIONAL

36:07

CIRCUMSTANCES.

36:07

MISTER HAGERICH IS ARGUING IN

36:09

COURT NOT JUST THAT HE CAME

36:12

CLEAN RIGHT AWAY AND SET I

36:14

CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO IT,

36:15

BUT HIS KIDS ARE FOUR AND SIX

36:17

YEARS OLD AND HIS OLDER

36:19

DAUGHTER HAVING A HARD TIME

36:20

TRYING TO PROCESS.

36:21

HE ALSO HAS A MOTHER WITH

36:23

PARKINSON'S DISEASE WHO NEEDS

36:24

HIS HELP AND THE PROSECUTOR IS

36:26

ARGUING, NO EXTENUATING

36:28

CIRCUMSTANCES HERE WHICH IS

36:29

WHERE WE FIND THE SITUATION

36:32

RIGHT NOW.

36:34

>> AS THE INTERVIEW SUGGESTED

36:35

HE IS ONE OF SEVERAL AMERICANS

36:37

WHO IS BEING HELD RIGHT NOW AND

36:39

THE COUNTRY PAST TOUGHER LAWS

36:42

TRYING TO FIGHT GUN VIOLENCE

36:44

COMING FROM HAITI AND THE

36:46

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND

36:47

ELSEWHERE.

36:47

YOU CAN IMAGINE THE JUDGE IS

36:49

ALSO UNDER PRESSURE NOT TO GIVE

36:50

AN EXCEPTION TO A GUY FROM

36:52

AMERICA.

36:53

>> THERE WAS UPROAR IN TURKS

36:56

AND CAICOS AFTER YOU HAD A

36:59

SERIES OF CASES ENDING WITH A

37:01

FINE AND SOME OF THEM INCLUDED

37:03

AMERICANS WITH FIREARMS AND

37:06

THEY WERE ONLY FIND.

37:08

SO THE OTHER END OF THE

37:10

PENDULUM, THE REALITY IS FAR AS

37:11

HOW THIS WILL AFFECT OTHER

37:13

CASES, SOME STORIES ARE EXACTLY

37:14

THE SAME. FATHERS OF YOUNG KIDS WHO HAD

37:15

FATHERS OF YOUNG KIDS WHO HAD

37:18

AMMUNITION FROM HUNTING TRIPS

37:23

MONTHS PRIOR DID NOT REALIZE IT

37:26

WAS ACTUALLY IN THE BAG UNTIL

37:28

THEY GOT TO TURKS AND CAICOS

37:29

AND TRIED TO LEAVE AND NOW THEY

37:31

HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS DEPENDING

37:32

ON THEM WONDERING ARE YOU

37:33

REALLY TELLING ME I'M GOING TO

37:34

SPEND 10 OR 12 YEARS MILES AWAY

37:35

FROM MY FAMILY?

37:36

WE WILL SEE WHERE THE JUDGE

37:38

LANDS IN JUST A MONTH.

37:39

>> I THINK IT'S WORTH

37:42

UNDERSCORING, YOU NEED TO KNOW

37:43

WHAT THE LAWS ARE IN THE

37:45

COUNTRY YOU ARE TRAVELING TO

37:46

AND YOUR EXCUSE THAT YOU LEFT

37:48

AMMUNITION IN A BAG MAY NOT CUT

37:51

IT IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.

37:53

AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN CHECK

37:56

YOUR GUN AND AMMO BUT YOU HAVE

37:57

TO DO IT LEGALLY WITH THE TSA

38:01

USING A CERTIFIED CASE. THAT IS

38:05

FOR DOMESTIC TRAVEL. THANK YOU

38:08

VERY MUCH. SAM BROCK ON THIS

38:10

STORY.

38:11

>>> WE ARE GETTING DETAILS

38:14

ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCE OF TWO

38:15

AUSTRALIAN SURFER BROTHERS AND

38:16

AN AMERICAN AS FAMILY MEMBERS

38:17

SAY THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR

38:19

ANSWERS.

38:20

WE TOLD YOU ABOUT JAY AND

38:24

CALLUM AND THEIR FRIEND JACK

38:25

YESTERDAY.

38:26

THEY'VE BEEN MISSING SINCE

38:27

SATURDAY WHILE THEY WERE ON A

38:28

SURFING TRIP TO THE BAJA

38:31

CALIFORNIA AREA.

38:32

THEY WERE REGULARLY POSTING

38:34

UPDATES AND THEN SUDDENLY JUST

38:37

STOP. WE NOW KNOW THAT POLICE

38:40

FOUND ABANDONED TENTS AND

38:41

EVIDENCE ARE LINKED TO THOSE

38:43

MEN.

38:44

AUTHORITIES SAY THEY ARE

38:46

COMMUNICATING WITH THE FBI IN

38:47

THIS CASE.

38:48

WE ALSO KNOW THAT DRUG CARTELS

38:52

ARE ACT GIVE AND BAJA,

38:54

CALIFORNIA CHIEF PROSECUTOR

38:55

SAYS THEY CANNOT RULE OUT

38:57

ANYTHING UNTIL THEY FIND THE

38:58

MEN.

38:58

WE ARE WAITING ON MORE DETAILS

39:01

AS POLICE IN MEXICO QUESTIONED

39:02

TWO MEN AND A WOMAN POSSIBLY IN

39:04

CONNECTION TO THE CASE.

39:06

BLAYNE ALEXANDER JOINS US NOW.

39:12

THE STATE PROSECUTOR, THE

39:14

MISSING PERSONS REPORT WAS

39:16

FILED 48 HOURS AFTER BEING LAST

39:17

SEEN AND POLICE STARTED LOOKING

39:18

INTO THIS RIGHT AWAY AS SOON AS

39:20

A SOCIAL MEDIA POST CAUGHT

39:21

THEIR ATTENTION.

39:22

>> THE STORY IS ONE THAT'S

39:25

GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION

39:26

BECAUSE THIS IS TROUBLING ON SO

39:27

MANY FRONTS.

39:29

THIS IS AN INVESTIGATION THAT IS

39:31

SPANNING THREE COUNTRIES AND

39:32

TWO CONTINENTS.

39:34

AUTHORITIES SAY THEY ARE IN

39:37

TOUCH WITH OFFICIALS BOTH IN

39:38

THE US AND AUSTRALIA.

39:40

THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S A VERY

39:44

POPULAR AMONGST THOSE AND GROWING IN POPULARITY OVER THE

39:46

GROWING IN POPULARITY OVER THE

39:48

PAST FEW YEARS.

39:52

THAT'S WHY THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH

39:55

SOCIAL MEDIA CHATTER AND

39:56

CONCERN OVER THESE MEN.

39:57

LET ME BREAK DOWN THE TIMELINE

39:58

FOR YOU.

39:59

WE KNOW THAT AS OF APRIL 27,

40:00

LAST SATURDAY WAS THE LAST TIME

40:01

THEIR FAMILIES HAD BEEN IN

40:02

CONTACT WITH THEM.

40:03

THEIR MOTHER POSTED ON FACEBOOK

40:05

SAID THAT WAS THE LAST EIGHT

40:06

THEY HEARD FROM THEM.

40:09

THE MISSING PERSON REPORT WAS

40:11

FILED TWO DAYS LATER AND THEN

40:13

WE KNOW FROM MEXICAN OFFICIALS

40:14

THAT THEY HAD BEEN SEARCHING

40:16

THE AREA WHERE THEY BELIEVED

40:17

THESE MEN WERE LAST SEEN AND

40:19

FOUND SOME PIECES OF EVIDENCE

40:21

INCLUDING A WHITE PICKUP TRUCK

40:22

WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY ARE

40:26

LOOKING INTO AS WELL IN

40:27

ADDITION TO QUESTIONING THREE

40:28

INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.

40:30

>> THE MOTHER OF THE BROTHERS

40:31

BACK IN AUSTRALIA HAS BEEN

40:32

POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ASKING

40:34

FOR HELP.

40:35

TALK ABOUT THAT EFFORT AND

40:38

WHETHER IT IS GAINING TRACTION.

40:40

>> I WILL SHOW YOU ONE OF HER

40:42

STATEMENTS.

40:43

SHE IS BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT

40:46

HER SONS SAYING THEY ARE

40:48

BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEINGS AND WE

40:50

LOVE THEM SO MUCH.

40:51

THE ENTIRE SITUATION BREAKS

40:54

THEIR HEART.

40:55

THE ONLY COMFORT IS THAT THEY

40:57

WERE TOGETHER DOING SOMETHING

40:58

THEY PASSIONATELY LOVE AND

40:59

STRUCK A CHORD AMONG SO MANY

40:59

PEOPLE.

41:00

ONE OF THE SONS WAS A

41:01

PROFESSIONAL LACROSSE PLAYER.

41:02

BOTH OF THEM WERE AVID SURFERS

41:03

WHICH IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE

41:07

REALLY JOINED IN THIS SEARCH.

41:09

>> WELL WE CERTAINLY ARE HOPING

41:12

FOR THE BEST.

41:13

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

41:15

>>> NBC NEWS COVERS HUNDREDS OF

41:16

STORIES EACH DAY AND IT'S

41:19

AWFULLY TOUGH TO READ WATCH AND

41:21

LISTEN TO EVERYTHING SO BUREAU

41:23

TEAMS HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU.

41:25

THIS IS WHAT IS GOING DOWN IN

41:26

THEIR REGIONS.

41:27

WE CALL THIS THE LOCAL.

41:28

ONE PERSON IS DEAD FROM A

41:30

TUBERCULOSIS OUTBREAK AT A HOTEL

41:35

IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA.

41:37

NINE OTHERS WERE HOSPITALIZED

41:38

AND ROUGHLY 170 PEOPLE MAY HAVE

41:40

BEEN EXPOSED.

41:41

CITY HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE

41:42

DECLARED, WHILE THEY HAVE

41:43

DECLARED A PUBLIC HEALTH

41:45

EMERGENCY THEY SAY THE GENERAL

41:48

PUBLIC IS NOT AT A BIG RISK.

41:50

OUT OF THE NORTHEAST BUREAU,

41:51

THE NURSE NEW CURFEW STARTS

41:55

TONIGHT IN NEWARK FROM 11:00

41:56

P.M.

41:57

UNTIL 5:30 A.M.

41:59

KIDS UNDER 18 HAVE TO STAY

42:00

WITHIN 100 YARDS OF THEIR HOMES

42:02

AND IF THEY BREAK CURFEW POLICE

42:04

COULD REACH OUT TO A VIOLENCE

42:08

PREVENTION TEAM STARTING WITH

42:10

FRIDAY, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS

42:11

BUT WILL XPAND TO SEVEN DAYS A

42:14

WEEK.

42:15

IN MID-JUNE, THE MAYOR SAYS IT

42:19

IS MEANT TO HELP KEEP KIDS SAFE

42:21

AND BRING DOWN CRIME.

42:22

>>> FROM THE SOUTHERN BUREAU

42:23

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

42:26

TSA OFFICERS FOUND THESE SNAKES

42:27

HIDDEN IN SOMEBODY'S PANTS.

42:28

THEY SAID THEY WERE SEARCHING A

42:30

PASSENGER AT THE MIAMI AIRPORT

42:32

AND FOUND THE SNAKES IN WHAT

42:34

SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A SUNGLASSES

42:35

BAG.

42:36

THE SNAKES WERE HANDED OVER TO

42:38

STATE FISH AND WILDLIFE

42:40

OFFICIALS.

42:41

YOU CAN HAVE THE SUNGLASSES AS

42:43

WELL.

42:44

>>> THE BATTLE BREWING OVER A

42:48

BILLIONAIRES PLANS TO CREATE A

42:50

UTOPIA IN RURAL CALIFORNIA?

42:52

LISTEN TO THIS.

42:54

FROM THE GROUND UP. A LOT OF

42:57

LOCALS ARE NOT SO HAPPY. WE ARE COMING BACK WITH THAT.

42:58

YOUR NEWS PLAYLIST.

43:00

TOP STORIES WITH TOM LLAMAS

43:03

STREAMING WEEKNIGHTS AT 7:00 ON

43:03

NBC NEWS NOW.

43:05

>>> BACK WITH TONIGHT'S ORIGINAL

43:08

, IN-DEPTH REPORTING ON A TOPIC

43:09

THAT WE BEEN WATCHING AND

43:11

TONIGHT THERE IS A FIGHT BREWING

43:14

IN A RURAL PART OF CALIFORNIA.

43:16

HOW DOES THIS SOUND?

43:17

A BRAND-NEW TOWN FROM THE

43:20

GROUND UP ALL SPARKLY AND NEW.

43:21

ENTREPRENEURS HAVE A BOLD PLAN

43:23

TO BUILD EXACTLY THAT BUT MANY

43:27

PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY ARE NOT

43:29

HAPPY ABOUT IT AND SAY THEY ARE

43:30

BEING DECEIVED BY THE

43:33

DEVELOPERS.

43:34

>> RIGHT NOW, A MAJOR

43:36

CONTROVERSY HITTING A FEVER

43:38

PITCH OVER THIS LAND IN

43:39

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.

43:40

A GROUP OF DEVELOPERS CALLED

43:44

CALIFORNIA FOREVER HAVE PLANS

43:46

TO TURN THIS INTO THE NEWEST

43:48

CITY OF THE COUNTRY.

43:49

THEY ANNOUNCED THEY'VE COLLECTED

43:50

20,000 SIGNATURES TO PUT THIS

43:52

PROJECT ON THE BALLOT IN

43:53

NOVEMBER AND LET VOTERS DECIDE

43:55

IF IT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. SOME

43:57

LOCALS HAVE BEEN QUESTIONING

44:00

THE WAY IN WHICH PETITIONERS

44:02

GATHERED THOSE SIGNATURES WITH

44:04

ONE PERSON SAYING ON FACEBOOK

44:05

SHE WAS ASKED TO SIGN A

44:06

PETITION ABOUT HEALTHCARE BUT

44:09

CLAIMING THAT ON THE CLAIM--

44:13

CLIPBOARD CALIFORNIA FOREVER

44:15

STATED THAT OPPONENTS HAVE QUOTE

44:17

IN SPREADING MISINFORMATION

44:19

REGARDING THE PETITION AND OUR

44:20

QUOTE ATTEMPTING TO CREATE

44:22

CONFUSION.

44:23

WE SPOKE WITH THE SOLANO COUNTY

44:26

REGISTRAR AND CONFIRMED ALL OF

44:32

THE PETITIONS ARE LEGITIMATE.

44:34

DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLAN

44:36

TO BUILD A NEW CITY WITH ROOM

44:38

FOR 400 DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT

44:39

THE PLAN TO BUILD A NEW CITY

44:41

WITH ROOM FOR 400,000 PEOPLE

44:42

WHICH IS BASICALLY THE

44:42

POPULATION OF MIAMI OR

44:43

MINNEAPOLIS.

44:44

>> THEY DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO

44:45

OUR CONCERNS.

44:46

>> THE PROJECT IS SPEARHEADED

44:48

BY SILICON VALLEY INVESTORS.

44:51

>> LAND WHERE FOR YEARS AND

44:53

YEARS NOTHING MUCH HAS BEEN

44:54

ABLE TO GROW UNTIL NOW

44:56

>> WE USED TO BUILD NEW CITIES

44:57

ALL THE TIME.

45:02

>> THE PROPOSAL WAS THAT THIS

45:06

GIANT CITY WOULD BE BUILT FROM

45:08

THE GROUND UP IN A RURAL AREA

45:09

WITH WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS,

45:10

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND

45:11

CALIFORNIA FOREVER HAS PLEDGED

45:13

TO CREATE ABOUT 15,000 NEW JOBS

45:16

IN SECTORS LIKE MANUFACTURING

45:18

AND RENEWABLE ENERGY.

45:20

>> IT IS A MAJOR DEPARTURE FROM

45:25

CITIES LIKE HOUSTON BUT THE WAY

45:28

THEY'VE GONE ABOUT IT HAS

45:29

RUFFLED FEATHERS.

45:32

CALIFORNIA FOREVER OPERATED

45:34

BUYING UP $800 MILLION WORTH OF

45:38

LAND BEFORE EVER REVEALING PLANS

45:44

. A GROUP OF LANDOWNERS WAS

45:47

SUED AND $550 MILLION ACCUSING

45:48

THEM OF CONSPIRING TO DRIVE UP

45:51

THE PRICE OF LAND.

45:52

THE LAWSUIT IS PLAYING OUT IN

45:54

THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF

45:56

CALIFORNIA AND SOLANO COUNTY

45:57

LEADERS ARE PUSHING BACK WITH

46:01

OTHER CONCERNS OVER ZONING

46:02

POWER AND WATER RIGHTS.

46:03

>> WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IN THE

46:05

NEXT 30 YEARS?

46:06

IS IT THIS PROJECT?

46:08

>> PART OF A NEW COALITION, SHE

46:10

BELIEVES THE TIMELINE IS

46:11

UNREALISTIC.

46:12

>> CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE

46:16

SURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING AND

46:18

INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITIES?

46:20

>> THEY SAY IT WILL SOLVE THE

46:22

NEED FOR MORE HOUSING AND JOBS

46:26

AND PROMISES TO INVEST IN

46:27

SURROUNDING AREAS.

46:28

>> WE HAVE THIS AMAZING ENGINE

46:29

THAT PRODUCES ALL THESE

46:31

INNOVATION AND WE'VE BEEN

46:35

SLOWING IT DOWN BY OUR INABILITY

46:38

TO CREATE HOMES THAT PEOPLE CAN

46:39

AFFORD.

46:40

>> THERE ARE SO MANY PIECES WE

46:41

AGREE ON.

46:42

THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING,

46:44

THERE IS A NEED FOR JOBS.

46:46

>> BOTH SIDES AGREE SOMETHING

46:48

HAS TO CHANGE BUT WHETHER IT

46:50

MEANS IT IS REINVESTING IN

46:51

EXISTING COMMUNITIES ARE

46:52

STARTING FROM SCRATCH IS UP TO

46:55

THE PEOPLE OF SOLANO COUNTY.

46:58

NBC NEWS LOS ANGELES.

47:00

>>> THANK YOU, GOOD STORY.

47:04

THE VERY REAL CONCERNS OF ONE

47:07

OF THE MOST ICONIC HORSE RACES.

47:09

ARE THE HORSES SAFE THIS

47:12

THE MOON, WHETHER IT'S MARS.

47:13

IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE ON THE

47:18

CUSP OF SOMETHING BIG.

47:19

>>> YOU KNOW THAT IT'S EARLY

47:21

MAY WHICH MEANS MANY PEOPLE ARE

47:23

TUNING INTO THE 150th ANNUAL

47:24

KENTUCKY DERBY TOMORROW AT THE

47:26

ICONIC CHURCHILL DOWNS RACE

47:28

TRACK IN LOUISVILLE.

47:30

IT'S THE FASTEST TWO MINUTES IN

47:32

SPORTS WITH A TOP PRIZE OF $3

47:36

MILLION FOR THE WINNER. ALL THE

47:37

EXCITEMENT THAT THE DERBY HAS,

47:39

THE MEANT JULEP MY PERSONAL

47:42

FAVORITE, BUT THERE ARE ALSO

47:44

REAL CONCERNS OVER THE SAFETY

47:46

OF THE HORSES AFTER 12

47:48

CONNECTED TO LAST YEAR'S DERBY

47:52

DIED WITHIN DAYS OF THE RACE.

47:54

JESSE KIRSCH IS JOINING US NOW.

48:00

WHAT IS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR?

48:02

>> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE

48:04

THAT NO HORSES IN THE DERBY

48:06

DIED.

48:08

THERE WERE-- INVOLVED IN THE

48:12

FACILITY IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS

48:14

SURROUNDING THE DERBY ON DERBY

48:17

DAY.

48:17

A TOTAL OF 12 LED TO A

48:19

SUSPENSION OF RACING HERE AT

48:21

ONE POINT AS WELL.

48:24

WE HAVE ASKED REGULATORS ABOUT

48:25

WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE THIS

48:28

YEAR.

48:29

THEY SAY THEY ARE CONSTANTLY

48:30

TRYING TO IMPROVE.

48:32

IT DOESN'T TAKE INJURIES AND

48:34

DEATH TO MAKE CHANGES.

48:37

A SIMILAR STORY FROM THE REGULAR

48:40

AUTHORITIES AND WHAT IS

48:43

INTERESTING IS THAT THIS YEAR

48:46

THEY ESSENTIALLY HAVE THE FULL

48:48

- ON HAND BECAUSE OF THE ANTI-

48:50

DOPING REGIMEN CAME ONLINE IN

48:51

TIME FOR THIS USE KENTUCKY

48:54

DERBY.

48:56

AS FOR THE TRACK WE TALKED WITH

49:01

THE CHIEF EQUINE OFFICER, CHIEF

49:03

VETERINARIAN OFFICER ABOUT

49:05

CHANGES THEY MADE AND THEIR

49:07

INCORPORATION OF TO KNOWLEDGE HE

49:12

.

49:13

>> WE ARE WORKING WITH A COUPLE

49:15

DIFFERENT THIRD-PARTY COMPANIES

49:16

TO HELP DEVELOP RISK FACTOR

49:20

ASSESSMENT TOOLS.

49:21

IN OUR INDUSTRY WE KNOW WHAT

49:23

MANY RISK FACTORS ARE FOR

49:24

HORSES AND WE ARE TRYING TO

49:27

LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND SEE IF

49:29

WE CAN USE COMPUTER AIDED

49:30

TECHNOLOGY TO IDENTIFY RISK

49:31

FACTORS THAT TRADITIONALLY WE

49:33

HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT.

49:35

>> THEY ALSO SAID THEY HAD A

49:36

PILOTED SENSOR PROGRAM THAT

49:38

THEY ARE USING ON ALL THE DERBY

49:39

HORSES.

49:40

>> WHAT IS THE VIBE RIGHT NOW

49:43

GIVEN WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO

49:45

WORK THROUGH AND CORRECT?

49:46

IS THERE A FEELING OF

49:49

EXCITEMENT RIGHT NOW?

49:51

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL

49:54

BUT IT JUST STARTED RAINING.

49:58

THE RAIN HELD OFF AND HOPEFULLY

50:02

THE SKIES WILL CLEAR BUT PEOPLE

50:04

ARE HERE AND EXCITED BECAUSE

50:07

IT'S DERBY WEEKEND IN LOUISVILLE

50:09

>>> THAT IS A WRAP FOR US AT

50:15

THIS HOUR UNCOVERED RESUMES RIGHT NOW.

50:30

BOMBSHELL INDICTMENT FOR A

50:31

BOMBSHELL INDICTMENT FOR A

50:32

SITTING CONGRESSMAN.

50:33

THE DOJ SAYS HE AND HIS WIFE

50:35

TOOK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

50:36

DOLLARS IN BRIBES FROM FOREIGN

50:38

GROUPS. THE CHARGES THAT COULD

50:40

PUT HIM AWAY FOR THE REST OF

50:41

HIS LIFE.

50:42

>>> WHAT-- ONE OF FORMER

50:45

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CLOSEST AIDES

50:47

BROKE DOWN AT HIS CRIMINAL

50:48

TRIAL.

50:49

THE GRILLING ON THE STAND THAT

50:53

PUSHED HOPE HICKS TO TEARS.

50:54

IN TEXAS MORE TORNADOES

50:55

TOUCHING DOWN AS THE STATE RACES

51:00

FOR MORE DEVASTATING FLOODING.

51:01

AND NEW DETAILS ON HOW ONE MAN

51:05

CAT BIRD FLU FROM A COW.

51:07

WHY HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE URGING

51:09

THE PUBLIC NOT TO WORRY.

51:12

AT LEAST NOT YET. >>> CHINA LAUNCHING ITS MOST

51:15

>>> CHINA LAUNCHING ITS MOST AMBITIOUS A RURAL MISSION

51:48

>>> THE POLICY TO BENEFIT THE

51:51

>>> THE POLICY TO BENEFIT THE

51:52

COUNTRY AND THE BANK. THE

51:55

INDICTMENT COMES AFTER A RAID

51:57

ON HIS HOME AND CAMPAIGN OFFICE

51:58

IN 2022.

52:00

AT ONE POINT HE WAS THE COCHAIR

52:03

OF THE CONGRESSIONAL AZERBAIJAN

52:04

CAUCUS AND IN A STATEMENT HE

52:07

DENIES ALL WRONGDOING SAYING HE

52:08

STILL DOES PLAN TO RUN FOR

52:10

REELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

52:13

HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADER

52:14

JEFFREY'S SAYS HE WILL TAKE

52:16

LEAVE FROM ONE OF HIS COMMITTEE

52:17

ASSIGNMENTS BUT IS NOT CALLING

52:18

FOR THE CONGRESSMAN TO STEP

52:22

DOWN, AT LEAST NOT YET.

52:24

HE BECOMES THE SECOND MEMBER OF

52:26

CONGRESS IN LESS THAN A YEAR TO

52:27

FACE BRIBERY CHARGES.

52:28

DEMOCRATIC SENATOR BOB MENENDEZ

52:29

SET TO GO ON TRIAL LATER THIS

52:33

YEAR'S.

52:34

WHAT WERE THESE AZERBAIJANI AND

52:37

MEXICAN DEALS ALLEGEDLY ALL

52:41

ABOUT?

52:42

WHAT WERE THEY HOPING TO GET

52:43

OUT OF HIM?

52:45

>> OFFICIAL AT. THE GOVERNMENT

52:48

ACCORDING TO THIS INDICTMENT WAS

52:50

SEEKING HIS HELP TRYING TO

52:53

INFLUENCE US POLICY IN THE

52:55

DIRECTION OF AZERBAIJAN WHO ARE

52:56

IN A WAR WITH ARMENIA.

52:59

AMERICAN FOREIGN INTERESTS HAVE

53:01

INTERESTS THERE AND THEY WERE

53:03

LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.

53:07

IT SAYS THAT CUELLAR SOLD HIS

53:11

OFFICE AND AGREED TO DO THEM

53:12

SAYING THEY TOOK NEARLY

53:14

$600,000 IN BRIBES AND

53:15

LAUNDERED THEM THROUGH SHAM

53:19

CONTRACTS CONTROLLED BY HIS

53:21

WIFE WHO SAID SHE DID LITTLE OR

53:23

NO WORK FOR THOSE COMPANIES BUT

53:26

THAT THE CONGRESSMAN, AGAIN,

53:29

PROMISED OFFICIAL ACTION AND

53:30

WHAT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT IS

53:32

THAT IN ADDITION TO BEING

53:33

CHARGED WITH BRIBERY AND MONEY

53:37

LAUNDERING WHICH ARE TYPICAL

53:39

CORRUPTION CHARGES, HE IS

53:40

CHARGED WITH ACT AS AN

53:42

UNREGISTERED AGENT FOR A

53:45

FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. HE IS THE

53:47

SECOND LAWMAKER IN A YEAR

53:49

CHARGED WITH SELLING HIS OFFICE

53:50

TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AND

53:53

THAT IS DEEPLY SIGNIFICANT.

53:54

>> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DRAW

53:56

COMPARISONS BETWEEN THIS CASE

54:00

AND SENATOR MENENDEZ.

54:02

IS THAT FAIR AND SHOULD THEY?

54:04

>> ABSOLUTELY THEY ARE VERY

54:07

SIMILAR CASES.

54:08

THE EVIDENCE AGAINST BOB

54:09

MENENDEZ IN TERMS OF THE GOLD

54:12

BARS AND THE CASH IS SO

54:14

VISCERAL AND STRONG THAT YOU

54:15

HAVE PEOPLE CALLING FOR HIS

54:19

RESIGNATION.

54:19

WE ARE NOT SEEING SIMILAR CALLS

54:21

FROM DEMOCRATS TODAY AND THAT

54:23

MAY BE BECAUSE EVERYONE IN

54:24

WASHINGTON KNOWS THAT THESE

54:25

CASES ARE HARD TO WIN.

54:26

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD

54:29

THEM BLOW UP IN THEIR FACE.

54:31

THEY HAVE TO SHOW EVIDENCE THAT

54:33

HE ACTUALLY GOT PAID TO DO

54:36

OFFICIAL ACTS AND THAT'S

54:39

DIFFICULT. THE INDICTMENT SEEMS

54:41

VERY STRONG.

54:43

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

54:46

>>> NOW TO POTENTIALLY THE

54:50

BIGGEST BOMBSHELL TESTIMONY YET

54:51

THE DRAMATIC MOMENTS WHEN THE

54:53

WOMAN WHO HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT

54:55

TO EVERYTHING WE BEEN TALKING

54:56

ABOUT IN THIS TRIAL BROKE DOWN

54:58

IN TEARS ON THE STAND.

55:01

THIS WOMAN HOPE HICKS, AN AIDE

55:04

WHO THE FORMER PRESIDENT

55:05

TREATED LIKE A DAUGHTER.

55:06

SHE LED COMMUNICATIONS WHEN THE

55:08

SCHEME TOOK PLACE TO BURY

55:11

EMBARRASSING STORIES.

55:12

THAT WAS BEFORE HE BROUGHT HER

55:15

TO THE WHITE HOUSE BUT NOW SHE

55:17

HASN'T SPOKEN TO HIM IN TWO

55:20

YEARS.

55:20

TODAY PROSECUTORS WANTED TO

55:22

KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE

55:23

SCENES WHEN THIS WOMAN MADE

55:25

HEADLINES.

55:26

THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP CAUGHT ON

55:29

CAMERA MAKING VULGAR COMMENTS

55:33

ABOUT ASSAULTING WOMEN.

55:34

HOPE HICKS WHO WAS HIS PRESS

55:37

SECRETARY AT THE TIME SAYS SHE

55:39

DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE TAPE

55:41

UNTIL SHE HEARD FROM A REPORTER

55:42

AND THAT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS

55:44

THAT QUOTE THIS WAS GOING TO BE

55:45

A CRISIS.

55:46

THE BIG QUESTION, WHY DOES THIS

55:48

MATTER FOR THE CASE?

55:50

LET'S HIT THE REWIND. SHE SAYS

55:55

SHE CALLED MICHAEL COHEN,

55:57

TRUMPS FORMER FIXER, TO ASK IF

55:58

THERE WAS ANOTHER TAPE THAT

56:00

WOULD NEED DAMAGE CONTROL WHICH

56:01

HAPPENED IN OCTOBER 2016.

56:02

LATER THAT MONTH PROSECUTORS

56:04

SAY DAMAGE CONTROL KICKED IN

56:07

WITH THE LEGEND HUSH MONEY

56:09

PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS WHO

56:11

CLAIMED SHE HAD AN AFFAIR WITH

56:12

TRUMP.

56:13

TRUMP DENIES IT. AND THAT'S THE

56:16

REASON WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHY

56:18

HE FACES COUNTS OF FALSIFYING

56:20

BUSINESS RECORDS TO WHICH HE HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY.

56:22

HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY.

56:24

VAUGHN HILLYARD HAS BEEN

56:29

WATCHING THIS THROUGHOUT THE

56:31

ENTIRE CASE.

56:32

LET'S START WITH WHAT THE

56:33

PROSECUTION WAS HOPING TO GET

56:34

OUT OF HOPE HICKS TO PAINT THIS

56:36

PICTURE OF DONALD TRUMP AS

56:38

FULLY IN CONTROL AND TO MAKE

56:43

THIS LINE. WHAT DO WE HEAR

56:46

TODAY FROM THAT AND?

56:49

>> THEY WANTED TO USE HOPE HICKS

56:52

TO SET UP THAT SHE WAS SUCH A

56:55

CRUCIAL WITNESS BECAUSE OF HOW

56:56

SMALL DONALD TRUMP'S INNER

56:57

CIRCLE WAS PARTICULARLY IN 2015

57:01

AND 16 WHEN SHE WAS SERVING AS

57:04

HIS PRESS SECRETARY.

57:05

WHEN SHE WAS ASKED BY THE

57:07

PROSECUTION WHO WAS DOING

57:09

PRESS, SHE SAID IT WAS JUST ME

57:12

AND MISTER TRUMP AND THE TEAM

57:14

THAT INCLUDED THE BODYGUARD AS

57:15

WELL AS THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER

57:16

WERE ALL JUST FOLLOWING HIS

57:21

LEAD.

57:22

THIS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

57:23

PRESENT TO THE JURY SOMEBODY

57:24

WHO HAD BEEN A LONGTIME

57:26

CONFIDANT EVEN BEFORE BECOMING

57:28

A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHEN

57:30

SHE WORKED FOR HIM IN 2014, TO

57:33

SAY THIS TESTIMONY IS CREDIBLE

57:36

AND HAD SOMEONE TO THE YEAR ALL

57:39

THE WAY TO THE END OF THE

57:40

PRESIDENCY.

57:41

>> THE DEFENSE HELPED HER OUT

57:43

BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS

57:45

CRITICISM OF MICHAEL COHEN.

57:48

>> RIGHT. HE'S GOING TO BE THAT

57:51

KEY WITNESS THAT WILL

57:54

POTENTIALLY TAKE THE STAND AND

57:56

PAID THAT $130,000 TO STORMY

57:58

DANIELS.

57:59

WHEN HOPE HICKS TALKED ABOUT

58:01

HIM HE SAID HE NEVER ACTUALLY

58:04

HAD A FORMER ROLE.

58:05

AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND

58:06

PURPOSES HE WOULD INSERT HIMSELF

58:08

BUT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON

58:11

ANY CAMPAIGN IN ANY OFFICIAL

58:11

CAPACITY.

58:12

THERE WERE THINGS HE DID IN A

58:16

VOLUNTARY CAPACITY BECAUSE OF

58:17

HIS INTEREST BUT THEN WHEN

58:19

ASKED ABOUT CONVERSATIONS AND

58:21

28 TEEN WHEN THE STORY WAS FIRST

58:24

COMING TO LIGHT ABOUT THE

58:26

ARRANGEMENT SHE SAID THAT

58:27

DONALD TRUMP SUGGESTED TO HER

58:30

THAT, HAPPY AND SURPRISED THAT

58:33

MICHAEL COHEN WOULD TAKE THIS

58:35

STANCE AND SHE HERSELF SAID HE

58:39

WAS NOT EXACTLY A CHARITABLE OR

58:40

SELFLESS PERSON.

58:41

HE WAS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO

58:43

SEEKS CREDIT AND SORT OF

58:45

SURPRISED THAT HE WOULD ARRANGE

58:48

$130,000 FROM HIS OWN HOME

58:51

EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT TO PAY

58:52

OFF STORMY DANIELS BEFORE THE

58:55

ELECTION WITHOUT THAT MONEY

58:57

COMING FROM SOMEWHERE.

58:59

>> THE IDEA HE DID IT ON HIS

59:02

OWN IS TOO MUCH TO BELIEVE.

59:05

WE MENTIONED SHE BECAME

59:06

EMOTIONAL AND WE REMEMBER THAT

59:08

SHE AND TRUMP HAVE NOT SPOKEN

59:09

FOR YEARS.

59:11

WHAT DID OUR NBC COLLEAGUES--

59:14

BECAUSE YOU ARE OT ABLE TO BE

59:16

THERE BUT WHAT DID COLLEAGUES

59:17

IN THE COURTROOM SEE IN TERMS

59:20

OF THE DYNAMICS?

59:22

>> THEY SAID THIS IS SOMEONE

59:25

WHO WORKED WITH HIM FOR ABOUT

59:28

EIGHT YEARS AND WHEN SHE TOOK

59:30

THE STAND SHE DID NOT MAKE EYE

59:32

CONTACT DIRECTLY WITH DONALD

59:34

TRUMP AND INSTEAD WHILE HE WAS

59:35

STARING AT HER SHE OPENLY

59:37

ADMITTED THAT SHE WAS NERVOUS

59:40

AND WHEN CROSS-EXAMINATION

59:41

BEGAN AND DONALD TRUMP'S

59:43

ATTORNEY BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS

59:44

WITHIN ABOUT A MINUTE SHE BROKE

59:46

DOWN IN TEARS AND COURT HAD TO

59:49

BE PAUSED FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO

59:55

REGROUP.

59:56

AND UPON LEAVING THE COURTROOM

59:57

REPORTERS SAID THERE WAS A

59:59

SOLEMN THIS WHEN SHE WALKED OUT

60:01

AS THIS WAS SOME AND SHE WAS

60:05

VERY CLOSE TO NOT ONLY AT THE

60:07

CAMPAIGN BUT ULTIMATELY MADE

60:08

HER THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR

60:11

AND THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE SHE

60:15

ADMITTED SHE WAS PAYING HER OWN

60:17

LEGAL BILLS.

60:18

THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS HAD A

60:20

CLOSE RELATIONSHIP AS WELL AS

60:23

FAMILIES AND WAS CLEARLY A

60:24

DIFFICULT DAY FOR HER AS SHE

60:26

TESTIFIED UNDER OATH.

60:26

>> ON THE STORY ALL WEEK.

60:30

>>> RAKING NEWS IN THE LAST FEW

60:33

MINUTES, A BUNCH OF TORNADO

60:34

REPORTS ALL ACROSS TEXAS ARE

60:35

POPPING UP ONE AFTER ANOTHER

60:36

WHICH MEANS THE STATE IS

60:38

HITTING THE NINTH STRAIGHT DAY

60:41

OF TORNADO ACT.

60:44

WHAT IS CALLED A MULTI-BOARD FOR

60:46

-- A MULTI-VORTEX INVOLVING TWO

60:49

SEPARATE TORNADOES SPINNING

60:50

AROUND EACH OTHER.

60:51

TEXAS HAS REALLY BEEN

60:53

STRUGGLING AND CANNOT CATCH A

60:57

BREAK. CHECK OUT THIS MASSIVE

61:03

COHEN. THE HOUSTON AREA BRACING

61:05

FOR A LONG WEEKEND OF MORE

61:08

INTENSE FLOODING.

61:11

EXPERTS ARE WARNING, EVACUATE

61:13

NOW IF YOU CAN OR BE READY TO

61:18

STAY PUT FOR DAYS.

61:20

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN AND

61:21

AROUND HOUSTON ARE AT THE

61:22

CENTER OF ALL OF THIS DEALING

61:24

WITH FLOOD WATCH IS IN EFFECT

61:24

RIGHT NOW.

61:25

THE EVACUATION ORDER COMES

61:26

AFTER THE REGION TOOK A BEATING

61:28

ON THURSDAY.

61:29

AS MUCH AS 12 " OF RAIN COMING

61:32

DOWN IN SOME PARTS OF TEXAS

61:34

WHICH CAUSE RIVERS TO OVERFLOW

61:36

WITH INTENSE FLOODING AND HAS

61:39

LED TO SCARY SCENES.

61:41

FOLKS PULLED FROM THEIR CARS

61:43

AFTER FLASH FLOODS CAME OUT OF

61:46

NOWHERE. KATHY, HOW ARE FOLKS

61:48

DEALING WITH THIS EXTREME

61:52

WEATHER AND MORE ON THE WAY?

61:55

>> WELL TOM, I CAN TELL YOU A

61:57

LOT OF FOLKS ARE CAUGHT OFF

62:01

GUIDE-- CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

62:02

THEY RECEIVED THE WARNINGS BUT

62:03

WERE NOT ANTICIPATING THE

62:06

DAMAGE THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW.

62:09

WE ARE STANDING IN A BACKYARD

62:12

AND RIGHT BEHIND ME, THIS IS

62:14

ROUGHLY 3 ACRES OF LAND AND THE

62:18

RIVER IS SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF

62:20

YARDS AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE'S

62:23

HANDING.

62:24

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE SCENE AND

62:26

THE WATER ROSE QUICKLY.

62:29

THE HOMEOWNER TOLD US EARLIER

62:31

THAT IT CAME ON EARLY YESTERDAY

62:33

MORNING AND SHE HAD TO GRAB

62:36

WHAT SHE COULD AND GET OUT. SHE

62:39

CAME BACK TO ASSESS THE DAMAGE

62:42

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIRT AND

62:45

DEBRIS. SHE SAID SHE GOT ABOUT

62:46

A FOOT OF WATER INSIDE OF HER

62:48

HOME SO A LOT OF CLEANUP AHEAD

62:50

BUT BUSINESSES ARE ALSO

62:51

SUFFERING.

62:52

HE SPOKE WITH THE GM OF A

62:54

NURSERY NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE

62:56

IN HIS BUSINESS IS ALSO RIGHT

62:57

BY THE RIVER. HE IS SAYING HIS

62:59

LOSSES ARE IN THE HUNDREDS OF

63:00

THOUSAND IS.

63:02

>> IT'S AS IF THEY OPENED UP

63:06

THE DAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

63:08

DAY AND WE HAD TO WATCH OUR

63:09

BUSINESS FLOAT AWAY.

63:11

IT IS DEFINITELY TOUGH BUT WE

63:14

WILL DO EVERYTHING IT TAKES TO

63:16

GET BACK INTO GEAR AND GET

63:19

READY FOR CUSTOMERS AND STAFF.

63:20

THIS IS EVERYONE'S CAREER SO WE

63:22

ARE GOING TO TAKE IT SUPER

63:26

SERIOUSLY.

63:27

>> STEVE WAS TELLING US THAT HE

63:29

WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO A BUSY

63:32

WEEKEND AHEAD AND IS SPENDING

63:33

THE DAY CLEANING UP WITH HIS

63:35

STAFF AND HOPEFULLY THEY ARE

63:36

ABLE TO ESTABLISH SOME OF THOSE

63:37

PLANTS TREES AND SHRUBS SO NOT

63:40

ONLY ARE THEY CLEANING UP BUT

63:42

KEEPING A CLOSE WATCH ON THE

63:43

SKY BECAUSE WE ARE MONITORING

63:44

MORE SEVERE WEATHER NOW THROUGH

63:45

THE WEEKEND.

63:46

>> ANYONE WHO HAS HAD A

63:48

DISHWASHER OVERFLOW KNOWS WHAT

63:49

A MESS THAT IS.

63:51

GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THANK YOU

63:51

VERY MUCH.

63:54

>>> TONIGHT COLLEGE CAMPUSES

63:56

ARE TRYING TO BRING SOME

63:58

SEMBLANCE OF NORMALCY BACK

63:59

AFTER TWO WEEKS OF ARREST AND

64:01

CHAOS BUT IT LOOKS IN SOME

64:03

CASES LIKE THAT MAY NOT

64:05

STOPPING PROTESTERS.

64:07

THEY ARE HEADED TO NYU IN THE

64:10

LAST FEW MINUTES.

64:11

THE SCENE ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS

64:15

GOING ONE TWO WAYS TO SLOW DOWN

64:21

EITHER BY FORCE DEALS WITH

64:23

ADMINISTRATORS BEING THE OTHER

64:24

OPTION AND YOU HAVE SCENES LIKE

64:25

THIS, THE NYPD CLEARING OUT

64:28

ENCAMPMENTS. 43 PEOPLE ARRESTED

64:32

AT THE NEW SCHOOL AND 13 AT NYU.

64:41

CAMPUS IS BACK OPEN AFTER

64:43

THREATENING TO USE FORCE IF

64:45

PEOPLE RESISTED ARREST BUT

64:46

THERE ARE ALSO SCHOOLS WORKING

64:47

WITH PROTESTERS.

64:49

PROTESTERS ENDED PEACEFULLY AT

64:53

RUTGERS ONCE MANAGEMENT REACHED

64:55

AN AGREEMENT AND THAT HAPPENED

64:57

AFTER THE SCHOOL SET A DEADLINE

64:58

YESTERDAY TO CLEAR THE

65:01

ENCAMPMENT.

65:02

STEVE, IT'S A QUIRED OR FRIDAY

65:06

RELATIVELY BUT THAT DOESN'T

65:08

MEAN THAT STUDENT ACTIVISM IS

65:09

NOT SPREADING.

65:10

WHERE DO THINGS STAND WHERE YOU

65:11

ARE RIGHT NOW?

65:14

>> MUCH QUIETER. THE LOUDEST

65:16

THING THAT I CAN HEAR ARE BIRDS

65:18

WHICH IS INCREDIBLE TO THINK

65:22

ABOUT.

65:23

YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE

65:25

THE SPACE BEHIND ME.

65:26

THIS IS TRANSFORMED BACK INTO A

65:29

COLLEGE QUAD. IT WAS TENSE AND

65:33

PLYWOOD THAT WERE SO THICK THAT

65:37

ROYCE HALL WAS NOT VISIBLE.

65:40

THAT POLICE ACTION SWEEP THAT

65:42

WAS HERE, WITH POLICE USING

65:44

SHOCK AND ON TO TAKE DOWN THIS

65:46

ENCAMPMENT VERY SWIFTLY.

65:47

THE LATEST NUMBERS WE HAVE,

65:50

MORE THAN 200 ARRESTS WHICH MAY

65:52

BE NEAR 210 NOW.

65:54

THE OFFICIAL LINE IS THAT THERE

65:55

WERE VERY FEW INJURIES.

65:57

IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN

65:59

YOU SPEAK TO PROTESTERS AND WE

66:03

HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL POST

66:05

POLICE ACTION INCLUDING ONE WHO

66:06

SAID SHE WAS STRUCK WITH A

66:09

POLICE BATON OVER AND OVER

66:12

AGAIN BEFORE BEING ARRESTED.

66:14

>> I WAS REPEATEDLY BEING HIT

66:16

OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND CAN

66:18

UNTIL I COULDN'T BREATHE. I

66:20

CAME BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS WHO

66:22

SAID THEY WERE IN DANGER.

66:26

WE WERE THERE PEACEFULLY.

66:28

PEACEFUL STUDENT PROTESTERS

66:30

TRYING TO PROTEST GENOCIDE

66:32

'S BEING AT THERE IS OF COURSE

66:34

REPORTING ABOUT OUTSIDE

66:36

AGITATORS AND OUTSIDE GROUPS

66:39

INFILTRATING THESE MOVEMENTS.

66:41

I ASKED THE QUESTION TO SOME OF

66:43

THE PROTESTERS AND THEY SAID

66:44

THIS IS LARGELY A STUDENT

66:46

MOVEMENT BUT THE CHANCE OR HAS

66:47

PROMISED A FULL INVESTIGATION

66:48

OF EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON

66:48

HERE.

66:49

>> WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM JEWISH

66:51

STUDENTS WHO COULDN'T EVEN GET

66:53

THE GET TO CLASS AND WERE NOT

66:55

ALLOWED TO WALK DOWN THE

66:59

SIDEWALK BEING ASKED FOR THEIR

67:01

POLITICAL AFFILIATION IN ORDER

67:02

TO WALK ON CAMPUS THAT THEY

67:05

PAID TUITION FOR. I UNDERSTAND

67:06

YOU TALKED WITH A MEDIA LIAISON

67:07

AND WHAT IS SHE TELLING YOU

67:09

ABOUT WHERE THE MOVEMENT GOES

67:10

FROM HERE?

67:12

>> AT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO,

67:15

SHE IS FRESH FROM BEING

67:17

ARRESTED AS THERE WERE SEVERAL

67:19

ARRESTS AND SHE'S CLAIMING

67:22

MULTIPLE INJURIES AS WELL SO

67:25

THEY ARE RECUPERATING AND SHE

67:27

TELLS ME THEY WILL BE BACK IN

67:33

FORCE.

67:34

>> WE ARE NOT DONE.

67:35

AS LONG AS THE UNIVERSITY HAS

67:37

NOT DIVESTED AND THERE'S A

67:40

GENOCIDE HAPPENING, WE ARE NOT

67:42

DONE.

67:43

>> DOES THAT MEAN ESTABLISHMENT

67:47

OF THE SAME ENCAMPMENT?

67:48

A FRESH NEW ENCAMPMENT?

67:50

SOMEWHERE ELSE ON CAMPUS?

67:52

WILL CAMPUS ALLOW THAT THEY

67:53

SAID THEY ARE STILL

67:55

RECUPERATING AFTER THAT POLICE

67:56

ACTION AND DON'T HAVE THAT

67:58

ANSWERS BUT SAID ALSO THAT

68:01

UNTIL THE UNIVERSITY DIVEST AND

68:03

UNTIL DEMANDS ARE MADE THEY ARE

68:05

NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

68:06

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

68:08

BUT THAT IS THE OFFICIAL LINE.

68:10

>>> NEW DETAILS TONIGHT ABOUT

68:12

ONE OF THE FIRST CASES OF BIRD

68:14

FLU SPREADING FROM A COW TO A

68:16

HUMAN.

68:17

A TEXAS DAIRY WORKER CAUGHT THE

68:20

VIRUS BACK IN LATE MARCH.

68:22

HE DID NOT HAVE ANY TYPICAL

68:23

SYMPTOMS.

68:24

NO FEVER, COUGHING OR SNEEZING

68:26

BUT DID HAVE A BAD CASE OF GUY.

68:30

SLOBS SHOWED THE SAME STRAIN OF

68:31

BIRD FLU THAT WAS CIRCULATING

68:33

IN DAIRY COWS.

68:35

HE WAS TOLD TO ISOLATE AS HE

68:38

RECOVERED BUT THERE IS A REAL

68:40

CONCERN THAT THE VIRUS COULD

68:42

MUTATE AS IT SPREADS AND THAT

68:44

THERE MAY BE MORE CASES OUT

68:46

THERE.

68:47

ERIC EDWARDS IS JOINING US NOW.

68:50

HOW CONCERNING IS THE THREAT

68:52

THAT THIS VIRUS COULD SPREAD ON

68:55

CATTLE FARMS?

68:57

>> IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS

69:00

VIRUS HAS BEEN SPREADING

69:03

UNDETECTED FOR MONTHS AND WILL

69:05

LIKELY CONTINUE TO SPREAD.

69:07

MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

69:10

ASKED TO MONITOR THEMSELVES.

69:13

ABOUT 25 HAVE BEEN TESTED AND

69:16

SO FAR ALL TEST RESULTS HAVE

69:17

COME BACK NEGATIVE.

69:19

THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS

69:21

SPREADING FROM PERSON-TO-PERSON

69:22

BUT YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

69:27

THE LONGER THIS CIRCULATES

69:28

AMONG CATTLE, THE MORE LIKELY

69:30

IT WILL BE THAT IT COULD MUTATE

69:32

TO SPREAD MORE EASILY FROM

69:34

PERSON-TO-PERSON.

69:35

THE AUTHORS TODAY SAYING RAPID

69:37

THE MENTATION OF PREVENTATIVE

69:40

MEASURES IS RECOMMENDED TO

69:43

PREVENT HUMAN EXPOSURES AND

69:46

EXPERTS SAY THAT THERE ARE

69:49

LIKELY ADDITIONAL CASES BECAUSE

69:51

A LOT OF FARMERS SIMPLY DON'T

69:53

WANT TO BE TESTED FOR FEAR THAT

69:55

A POSITIVE RESULT WILL IMPACT

69:59

THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

70:00

>> WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS

70:01

GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND WE ARE NOT

70:03

THERE YET BUT ARE WE PREPARED

70:05

IF BIRD FLU WERE TO MUTATE AND

70:07

THEN SPREAD INTO ANOTHER TYPE

70:09

OF PANDEMIC SITUATION?

70:11

>> THE PAST WEEK THE CDC SAYS

70:14

THEY HAVE TWO VACCINES PREPARED

70:17

JUST IN CASE IT IS EVER NEEDED.

70:19

BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN THE

70:21

EMERGENCY STOCK PILE.

70:22

THERE ARE NOT MANY DOSES BUT

70:24

THE CDC SAYS THEY COULD RAMP UP

70:26

QUICKLY AND BEGIN SHIPPING

70:27

DOSES WITHIN WEEKS.

70:30

>>> A RARE SUCCESSFUL PIECE OF

70:33

BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION IS

70:34

WAITING ON THE SIGNATURE OF THE

70:38

PRESIDENT TONIGHT OUTLINING

70:39

STEPS TO MONITOR THE ONLINE

70:40

EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN.

70:41

THE BILL HELPS STRENGTHEN THE

70:44

NATIONAL TIP LINE HAT DEALS

70:46

WITH REPORTS OF ONLINE

70:49

WRONGDOING AGAINST KIDS.

70:51

THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING

70:52

AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN SAID

70:53

THAT IT HAS RECEIVED MORE THAN

70:54

36 MILLION REPORTS OF ONLINE

70:57

EXPLOITATION OR ABUSE IN 2023.

71:01

360% INCREASE COMPARED TO A

71:04

DECADE AGO.

71:05

THIS STAT RESONATES WITH

71:08

PARENTS LIKE JENNIFER, WHOSE

71:09

SON DIED BY SUICIDE AFTER

71:13

FALLING THE INTO A SO-CALLED

71:19

SEXTORTION SCHEME IN WHICH HE

71:22

WAS BLACKMAILED.

71:23

>> ONCE HE SENT THE PHOTO

71:25

EVERYTHING CHANGED FOR HIM.

71:26

THEY PUT THE PRESSURE ON, THEY

71:28

WANTED MONEY, RESTRICTIONS NEED

71:30

TO BE PLACED ON THESE COMPANIES

71:32

THAT HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE

71:33

ALLOWING THESE PREDATORS TO JUST

71:36

GO ONLINE FREELY AND COME FOR

71:37

OUR YOUTH.

71:40

>>> JULIE JOINS ME NOW AND ALSO

71:44

HAS AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH

71:45

THE TWO SENATE COSPONSORS.

71:47

JULIE, BREAK DOWN WHY SOME ARE

71:50

CALLING THIS GAME CHANGER WHEN

71:51

IT COMES TO PROTECT THE KIDS

71:54

ONLINE.

71:55

>> BELIEVE IT OR NOT THIS IS

71:57

ONE OF THE ONLY PIECES OF

72:00

LEGISLATION IN RECENT YEARS,

72:01

THE MOST MAJOR THAT ACTUALLY

72:04

CRACKS DOWN ON WHAT IS GOING ON

72:06

ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND

72:07

ONLINE WHEN IT COMES TO KIDS

72:08

AND MINORS.

72:09

AND REALLY FORCES THEM TO ACT

72:11

WHEN IT COMES TO REPORTING

72:12

SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IMAGES OF

72:14

MINORS, SOME WHICH LEAD TO

72:18

SEXTORTION SCHEMES.

72:19

YOU HEARD JENNIFER LEIGH OUT,

72:21

SHE IS PART OF A LONG LIST OF

72:23

PARENTS WHO HAD TO DEAL WITH

72:24

THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF

72:25

YEARS.

72:26

THE GROWING USE OF SOCIAL

72:28

MEDIA, UNFETTERED ACCESS.

72:29

NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY TO

72:33

HELP, SHE TOLD ME IT'S UP TO

72:35

SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES TO BE

72:36

HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT GOES

72:37

ON ON THEIR PLATFORM.

72:38

THIS BILL IS A BIG DEAL AND I

72:40

WANT YOU TO TAKE A LISTEN TO

72:43

WHAT THESE SENATORS WHO COULD

72:45

NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT, WHAT

72:47

THEY DID TO COME TOGETHER ON

72:51

THIS ISSUE AND NOW PASSING THE

72:53

HOUSE AND SENATE AND IS SITTING

72:54

ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DESK

72:56

WAITING FOR A SIGNATURE.

72:57

>> CHILDREN GET ONLINE AND IT'S

72:58

THE WILD WEST.

72:59

THERE ARE BAD BULL LURKING ON

73:02

THE INTERNET WHO WANT TO PREY

73:04

ON CHILDREN.

73:05

>> WE NEED TO FIX THIS BECAUSE

73:09

ONCE YOU IDENTIFY A PEDOPHILE

73:11

AND ONCE YOU WANT TO GET THIS

73:15

INDIVIDUAL INTO COURT, SOMETIMES

73:17

THEY WERE GETTING OFF SIMPLY

73:19

BECAUSE OF CONSTRAINTS THAT

73:21

WERE IN THE WAY.

73:23

>> THIS WILL COMPLETELY

73:25

MODERNIZE THE WAY THAT THESE

73:27

TIPS ARE PROCESSED BY THE

73:29

CENTER FOR MISSING AND

73:32

EXPLOITED CHILDREN.

73:33

THEY SAID IN A STATEMENT WE ARE

73:35

THRILLED IT WILL BE SIGNED INTO

73:37

LAW VERY SOON SO WE CAN PLAN FOR AND IMPLEMENT MANY OF THE

73:39

FOR AND IMPLEMENT MANY OF THE

73:41

MEASURES AND WHILE WE APPLAUD

73:45

ITS PASSAGE THERE IS MORE TO BE

73:47

DONE LEGISLATIVELY.

73:48

HAVING COVERED THIS ISSUE

73:49

THERE'S A LOT THAT CONGRESS IS

73:50

TRYING TO DO IN THE COMING

73:51

WEEKS.

73:52

>> GOOD REPORTING FROM CAPITOL

73:54

HILL.

73:55

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

73:56

>>> NEW WARNINGS IN BERLIN AND

74:00

WHY PEOPLE THERE ARE BEING TOLD

74:02

TO STAY INDOORS.

74:03

PLUS THE US ECONOMY ADDED FEWER

74:04

JOBS THAN EXPECTED LAST MONTH

74:16

>>> WE ARE GETTING NEW DETAILS

74:17

>>> WE ARE GETTING NEW DETAILS

74:18

ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCE OF TWO

74:18

AUSTRALIAN SURFER BROTHERS AND

74:19

AN AMERICAN AS TONIGHT FAMILY

74:20

MEMBERS SAY THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR ANSWERS.

74:21

FOR ANSWERS.

74:22

WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THESE OTHERS

74:28

AND THEIR FRIEND ON THE SHOW

74:31

YESTERDAY.

74:32

THEY BEEN MISSING SINCE

74:33

SATURDAY AND WHILE THEY WERE ON

74:34

A SURFING TRIP TO THE BAJA,

74:35

CALIFORNIA AREA, CALLUM WAS

74:38

REGULARLY POSTING UPDATES ON

74:39

SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE FIRST TWO

74:40

DAYS OF THE TRIP AND THEN

74:42

SUDDENLY STOP.

74:43

POLICE HAVE FOUND ABANDONED

74:46

EVIDENCE LINK TO THE THREE MEN.

74:49

LOCAL MEXICAN AUTHORITIES SAY

74:50

THEY ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THE

74:51

FBI IN THE CASE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT DRUG CARTELS

74:53

WE ALSO KNOW THAT DRUG CARTELS

74:55

ARE AT IN THAT AREA AND BAJA'S

74:59

CHIEF PROSECUTOR SAYS THEY

75:01

CANNOT RULE OUT ANYTHING UNTIL

75:02

THEY FIND THE GROUP.

75:03

WE ARE WAITING ON MORE DETAILS

75:06

AS A LEASE IN MEXICO QUESTION

75:08

TWO MEN AND A WOMAN IN

75:09

CONNECTION TO THE CASE.

75:14

BLAYNE ALEXANDER JOINS ME NOW.

75:17

>> THE STATE PROSECUTOR SAYS

75:18

EVEN THOUGH THE MISSING PERSON

75:20

REPORT WAS FILED 48 HOURS AFTER

75:21

THEY WERE LAST SEEN, POLICE

75:22

STARTED LOOKING INTO THIS RIGHT

75:23

AWAY AS SOON AS THEY HAD A

75:25

SOCIAL MEDIA POST THAT CAUGHT

75:28

THEIR ATTENTION.

75:29

>> YES AND THE STORY IS ONE

75:31

THAT'S GETTING A LOT OF

75:32

ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS IS

75:33

TROUBLING ON SO MANY FRONTS.

75:34

THIS IS AN INVESTIGATION THAT

75:38

IS SPANNING THREE COUNTRIES AND

75:40

TWO CONTINENTS.

75:41

AUTHORITIES SAY THEY ARE IN

75:42

TOUCH WITH OFFICIALS IN THE US

75:44

AND AUSTRALIA.

75:45

THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS VERY

75:49

POPULAR AMONGST SURFERS AND

75:51

GROWING IN POPULARITY OVER THE

75:52

PAST FEW YEARS.

75:54

THAT'S WHY THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH

75:55

SOCIAL MEDIA CHATTER AND CAN

75:59

TURNOVER THESE MEN.

76:01

WE KNOW THAT AS OF APRIL 27

76:03

LAST SATURDAY THAT WAS THE LAST

76:04

TIME THAT THE FAMILY HAD BEEN

76:06

IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

76:08

TWO AUSTRALIAN BROTHERS.

76:09

HER MOTHER POSTED ON FACEBOOK

76:10

AND SAID THAT IT WAS THE LAST

76:13

SHE HAD HEARD FROM THEM.'S

76:16

REPORT WAS FILED TWO DAYS LATER

76:18

ON THE 29th AND THEN YOU KNOW

76:21

FROM MEXICAN OFFICIALS THAT

76:22

THEY HAD BEEN SEARCHING THE

76:24

AREA WHERE THEY BELIEVE THESE

76:24

MEN WERE LAST.

76:26

THEY FOUND SOME PIECES OF

76:29

EVIDENCE INCLUDING A WHITE

76:31

PICKUP TRUCK AND IS SOMETHING

76:32

THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IN

76:33

ADDITION TO QUESTIONING THREE

76:34

INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW.

76:36

>> THE MOTHER OF THE BROTHERS

76:38

HAS BEEN POSTING ON SOCIAL

76:39

MEDIA ASKING FOR HELP.

76:41

TALK ABOUT THAT SOCIAL MEDIA

76:42

EFFORT AND WHETHER IT'S GAINING

76:44

ANY TRACTION ON THE GROUND IN

76:44

MEXICO.

76:46

>> SHE IS BASICALLY TALKING

76:50

ABOUT HER SONS SAYING THEY ARE

76:53

BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEINGS AND WE

76:56

LOVE THEM SO MUCH.

76:57

THE ENTIRE SITUATION BREAKS

76:58

THEIR HEART AND THE ONLY

77:00

COMFORT IS THAT THEY WERE

77:01

TOGETHER DOING SOMETHING THEY

77:03

PASSIONATELY LOVE. ONE OF THE

77:04

SONS WAS A PROFESSIONAL

77:07

LACROSSE PLAYER AND BOTH WERE

77:09

AVID SURFERS WHICH IS WHY SO

77:11

MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN JOINING

77:14

IN THE SEARCH ESPECIALLY IN THE

77:16

SURFING COMMUNITY.

77:17

>> WELL WE CERTAINLY ARE HOPING

77:18

FOR THE BEST.

77:19

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

77:20

>>> DISTURBING REPORTING ABOUT

77:22

POLICE YOUTH PROGRAMMED LINKED

77:25

TO NEARLY 200 ALLEGATIONS OF

77:27

ABUSE AND MISCONDUCT ACROSS THE

77:31

COUNTRY.

77:32

AN INVESTIGATION IN PARTNERSHIP

77:33

WITH NBC NEWS FINDS THE LAW

77:38

ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL ARE

77:39

ACCUSED OF GROOMING, SEXUALLY

77:40

ABUSING OR ENGAGING IN SOME

77:41

TYPE OF BEHAVIOR WITH TEENS AND

77:43

YOUNG ADULTS ENROLLED IN AND

77:46

ASK LAURA PROGRAM AND THE

77:47

MAJORITY AFFECTED OUR TEENAGE

77:50

GIRLS, SOME AS YOUNG AS 13.

77:52

IT WAS CREATED BY THE BOY

77:53

SCOUTS OF AMERICA AS A MENTOR

77:56

SHIP PROGRAM WITH LOCAL LAW

77:58

ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

78:00

IT HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR DECADES

78:02

AND ACCORDING TO THE

78:03

INVESTIGATION OFFICERS ACCUSED

78:06

OF ABUSING TEENAGERS STAND IN

78:08

THE RANKS OF PATROLMEN ALL THE

78:10

WAY UP TO CHIEFS OF POLICE.

78:12

SOMEWHERE DEPARTMENT VETERANS

78:13

KNOWN FOR THE WORK THEY DID IN

78:14

THEIR COMMUNITIES AND OTHERS

78:15

HAVE BEEN BARELY WORKING AT

78:17

THEIR AGENCIES FOR A YEAR OR SO

78:18

A LOT OF CASES HAVE LED TO

78:21

CRIMINAL CHARGES BUT IN SOME

78:22

CASES OFFICERS WERE NOT EVEN

78:23

REQUIRED TO REGISTER AS

78:27

OFFENDERS.

78:27

IN OTHER CASES OFFICERS GOT TO

78:29

KEEP THEIR JOB AFTER A

78:30

REPRIMAND OR A SHORT

78:31

SUSPENSION. THE BOY SCOUTS, WHICH SET THE

78:33

THE BOY SCOUTS, WHICH SET THE

78:35

GUIDELINES SAY IN A STATEMENT

78:38

THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO

78:40

HOLDING OFFENDERS, IN ITS

78:43

WORDS, ACCOUNTABLE.

78:44

>> ONE OF THE REPORTERS WORKING

78:46

ON THE PIECE FOR US RIGHT NOW

78:50

IS HELPING TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN.

78:53

CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT

78:54

MORE HERE?

78:55

WE UNDERSTAND THAT MANY CASES

78:57

RESULTED IN SOME SORT OF

78:59

CHARGES WERE CONSEQUENCES BUT

79:00

THERE'S ONE COMMUNITY NEAR BOSS

79:02

AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE STILL

79:03

ASKING FOR JUST TELL US MORE

79:05

ABOUT THAT

79:07

>> OUR STORY REALLY CENTERS ON

79:12

ONE WOMAN IN PARTICULAR AND

79:13

WHEN SHE WAS 13 YEARS OLD SHE

79:15

JOINED HER LOCAL POLICE

79:18

EXPLORER POST IN MASSACHUSETTS

79:21

ABOUT AN HOUR OUTSIDE OF BOSTON.

79:23

SHE REALLY ADMIRED POLICE

79:25

OFFICERS AND WANTED TO BECOME

79:28

AN OFFICER'S DAY AND STAYED IN

79:30

THE PROGRAM FROM AGE 13 ALL THE

79:31

WAY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.

79:33

ABOUT A DECADE LATER SHE WAS 23

79:35

YEARS OLD, NEWLY PREGNANT AND

79:36

FOUND DEAD FROM AN APPARENT

79:37

SUICIDE.

79:39

ONE OF THE LAST PEOPLE BELIEVED

79:41

TO HAVE SEEN HER ALIVE WAS ONE

79:44

OF THE OFFICERS THAT SHE MET

79:48

THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND AN

79:50

INTERNAL POLICE INVESTIGATION

79:51

CONDUCTED AFTER HER DEATH FOUND

79:52

THAT THAT OFFICER AS WELL AS

79:54

HIS BROTHER WHO WAS AN OFFICER

79:58

AND ALSO AN EX-LAURA MENTOR, AS

80:00

WELL AS A THIRD OFFICER WHO WAS

80:01

A VETERAN.

80:03

THEY HAD SEPARATE RELATIONSHIPS

80:06

WITH SANDRA IN HER EARLY 20s.

80:09

AFTER HER DEATH HER FAMILY

80:10

FILED A WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT

80:12

AGAINST THE THREE OFFICERS AS

80:16

WELL AS THE LEASE DEPARTMENT

80:17

AND THE TOWN.

80:18

THE LAWSUIT IS ONGOING AND

80:20

EARLIER THIS YEAR A JUDGE IN A RULING ALLOWING THE LAWSUIT

80:22

RULING ALLOWING THE LAWSUIT

80:24

CONTINUE BASED A PART OF HIS

80:29

DECISION INCLUDING TEXT

80:30

MESSAGES THAT THE POLICE

80:31

INVESTIGATION UNCOVERED IN

80:32

WHICH ONE OF THE OFFICERS

80:34

ACKNOWLEDGE HAVING SECS WITH

80:35

HER WHEN SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

80:37

THE OFFICERS HAVE DENIED ANY

80:40

WRONGDOING AND HAVE ALL

80:43

RESIGNED FROM THEIR JOB.

80:44

THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY FACING

80:49

ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES.

80:50

IT HAS BEEN JUST OVER THREE

80:52

YEARS SINCE SHE DIED AND

80:53

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED

80:55

AN ONLINE PETITION CALLING FOR

80:56

FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS INTO HER

80:57

DEATH AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF

81:02

HER LIFE.

81:04

>>>'S INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT

81:07

THERE WAS A LACK OF OVERSIGHT

81:09

THAT ALLOWED THE ABUSE TO

81:12

HAPPEN.

81:13

I KNOW A LOT OF MY FELLER HIGH

81:15

SCHOOL IS BACK IN THE DAY WERE

81:19

IN THESE EXPLORER PROGRAMS.

81:20

ANY INDICATION THAT THERE IS

81:24

BETTER OVERSIGHT?

81:25

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

81:27

WHAT WE FOUND IN TERMS OF THE

81:31

RESPONSE REALLY DEPENDED ON THE

81:32

LOCALE.

81:34

SOME DEPARTMENTS, WHEN OFFICERS

81:37

WERE CHARGED OR CONVICTED OF

81:41

ABUSE OR MISCONDUCT, THEY

81:42

SEIZED OPERATING THEIR PROGRAMS

81:43

WHILE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE

81:45

TRIED TO PUT MORE RULES IN

81:45

PLACE.

81:47

FOR INSTANT, EXPLICITLY BANNING

81:49

FRATERNIZATION BETWEEN. IS UP

81:51

AND SEND OFFICERS OR LIMITING

81:54

CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM.

81:58

ONE OF THE HUGE ASPECTS IS A

82:00

RIGHT ALONG WHERE PARTICIPANTS

82:02

CAN ACCOMPANY OFFICERS BUT THIS

82:03

CAN TAKE THE ENTIRE SHIFT AND

82:04

SOMETIMES CAN HAPPEN OVERNIGHT

82:06

SO SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE

82:09

REDUCED THAT TO MAYBE ONE HOUR

82:12

OR FOUR HOURS OR THERE'S A

82:13

DEBRIEFING THAT MAY HAPPEN

82:14

AFTERWARDS, OR THEY'VE TRIED TO

82:16

ENSURE THAT FUNDS ARE NOT JUST

82:18

INTERACTING WITH ONE SPECIFIC

82:20

OFFICER BUT THAT THEY ARE

82:22

INTERACTING WITH SEVERAL. WHAT

82:23

EXPERTS HAVE TOLD US IS THAT A

82:26

CRUCIAL PART OF CONTINUING

82:29

THESE PROGRAMS IS LESS

82:31

ISOLATION AND MORE TRANSPARENT

82:33

THE WHEN IT COMES TO THE RULES

82:35

AND POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE,

82:38

AND COMMUNICATING THAT NOT JUST

82:40

OF THE OFFICERS BUT TO

82:41

PARTICIPANTS AND THEIR

82:44

PARENTS.'S DMACC THANK YOU FOR

82:46

YOUR REPORTING.

82:46

NICE JOB.

82:48

>>> THE FIVE THINGS OUR TEAM

82:51

THINKS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

82:53

A DISTURBING SITUATION IN ITS

82:55

BERG AND A WOMAN NOW DEAD AFTER

83:00

A STRANGE CONSTRUCTION ACCIDENT.

83:02

AN INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT A

83:04

LARGE DRUM ESCAPE THE

83:05

CONSTRUCTION SITE, ROLLED DOWN

83:06

THE HILL, BROKE THROUGH A FENCE

83:08

AND EVENTUALLY HIT THE WOMAN ON

83:11

THE SIDEWALK.

83:12

>>> CANADIAN POLICE HAVE

83:13

ARRESTED AND CHARGED THREE MEN

83:15

IN THE MURDER OF A SEPARATIST

83:19

LEADER WHO WAS KILLED IN CANADA

83:21

LAST YEAR.

83:22

THEY ARE LOOKING INTO WHETHER

83:23

THE SUSPECT ARE TIED TO THE

83:25

GOVERNMENT.

83:26

>>> CANADA'S PRIME MINISTER IS

83:30

SUGGESTING THE INDIAN

83:32

GOVERNMENT MAY HAVE BEEN

83:33

INVOLVED STARTING A FEUD

83:34

BETWEEN CANADA AND INDIA.

83:35

>>> DEMOLITION UNDERWAY ON THE

83:38

OVERPASS. REMEMBER PARTS OF THE

83:41

HIGHWAY WERE SHUT DOWN IN THE

83:42

LAST 24 HOURS AFTER A FUEL

83:45

TRUCK COLLIDED WITH TWO OTHER

83:49

CARS BURSTING INTO FLAMES.

83:50

HEAT DAMAGED THE OVERPASS SO

83:52

THEY'VE HAD TO TEAR DOWN THE

83:54

BRIDGE ON THE CRIMINAL-- THE

83:57

CRITICAL INTERSTATE. THE

83:59

HIGHWAY ITSELF COULD BE CLOSED

84:00

UNTIL MONDAY.

84:01

>>> THE US ECONOMY ADDED FEWER

84:04

JOBS THAN EXPECT DID IN APRIL

84:09

WHILE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE

84:10

GREW.

84:11

THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE GOOD NEWS

84:12

BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE ECONOMY

84:14

IS SLOWING WHICH COULD ALLOW

84:16

THE FED AND SITTER CUTTING

84:19

INTEREST RATES AS SOON AS THE

84:20

FALL.

84:22

THE STOCK MARKET LIKE THAT

84:25

DEVELOPMENT AND RALLIED BEFORE

84:26

THE CLOSING BELL ON THAT

84:27

POSSIBILITY.

84:28

>>> THE WHITE HOUSE PRESENTING

84:30

THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF

84:31

FREEDOM TO 19 WITH BEGINS IN

84:32

THE LAST HOUR INCLUDING CIVIL

84:37

RIGHTS ACTIVIST CLARENCE JONES,

84:39

A PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER AND

84:41

FORMER MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.

84:44

THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THOSE

84:46

HONORED HAVE MADE EXEMPLARY

84:49

CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PROSPERITY

84:51

VALUES OR SECURITY OF THE

84:52

UNITED STATES.

84:53

>>> CHINA LAUNCHING A HISTORIC

84:56

MISSION TO THE MOON AND OUR

84:58

TEAM SAW IT HAPPEN FIRSTHAND.

85:02

WHAT MISSION OFFICIALS ARE

85:04

SAYING ABOUT THE FAR SIDE OF

85:06

THE MOON.

85:08

NOT THE DARK SIDE. PLUS THE DRAMATIC RESCUE CAUGHT

85:11

PLUS THE DRAMATIC RESCUE CAUGHT ON CAMERA IN BRAZIL.

85:14

>> HOW ARE YOU DOING?

85:17

>> PRETTY BAD

85:20

>>> NBC COVERS HUNDREDS OF

85:23

INTERNATIONAL STORIES EVERY DAY

85:24

AND BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH TO READ

85:28

WATCH AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THEM

85:30

WE HAVE TEAMS AROUND THE WORLD

85:32

DOING IT FOR YOU AND FOR ME.

85:33

HERE'S WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE

85:34

WATCHING.

85:35

OUT OF BRAZIL, HEAVY RAIN IN

85:36

THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE

85:37

COUNTRY HAVE KILLED AT LEAST 39

85:38

PEOPLE.

85:39

LOCAL EMERGENCY RESCUE TEAMS

85:41

ARE SAYING THAT 68 OTHERS ARE

85:42

STILL MISSING AND THE WORST

85:45

FLOODING IS ILL HAS SEEN IN 80

85:48

YEARS.

85:49

>>> YOU CAN SEE A HELICOPTER

85:53

RESCUING PEOPLE FROM A ROOFTOP

85:55

AND AUTHORITIES SAY MORE THAN

85:56

20,000 PEOPLE ARE GETTING

85:57

FORCED TO EVACUATE FROM THEIR

85:57

HOMES.

85:58

>>> A BUS PLUNGING INTO A LEVINE

86:02

-- RAVINE KILLING 20 PEOPLE AND

86:04

HURTING MORE THAN A DOZEN

86:06

OTHERS ACCORDING TO THE LOCAL

86:07

AUTHORITIES.

86:08

THE BUS WAS HEADED TOWARD A

86:10

POPULAR TOURIST SPOT IN THE

86:12

NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTRY

86:13

BEFORE THE CRASH.

86:15

>>> FROM GERMANY, HUGE SMOKE

86:16

CLOUDS ARISING FROM A

86:18

METALWORKING FACTORY AFTER A

86:22

BIG FIRE BROKE OUT.

86:24

FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORRIED THAT

86:25

THE SMOKE MAY HAVE TOXIC

86:27

CHEMICALS AND ARE ASKING PEOPLE

86:29

TO STAY INSIDE AND TURN OFF THE

86:31

AC.

86:32

THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE IS STILL

86:33

NOT CLEAR.

86:35

>>> CHINA LAUNCHED WHAT MAY BE

86:37

ITS MOST AMBITIOUS LUNAR

86:39

MISSION YET TO THE FAR SIDE OF

86:41

THE MOON.

86:42

BY THE WAY THE DARK SIDE IS A

86:44

FLOYD ALBUM.

86:46

IT'S A ROCKET AND IT IS RACING

86:51

TO GET THERE.

86:52

IS SUCCESSFUL IT WILL BE THE

86:54

FIRST MISSION OF ITS KIND.

86:55

THE GOAL?

86:56

COLLECT ROCKS AND DEBRIS THAT

86:57

COULD HELP UNDERSTAND THE

86:58

ORIGINS OF THE MOON.

87:00

IT'S A MILESTONE FOR CHINA

87:01

WHICH IS PLANNING TO LAND

87:03

ASTRONAUTS ON THE MOON BY THE

87:06

END OF THE DECADE AND IS A

87:08

MARKER OF A NEW SPACE RACE

87:10

SHAPING UP NOT JUST FOR THE

87:11

MOON BUT ALL THAT SPACE BETWEEN

87:14

THE EARTH AND THE MOON.

87:16

JANICE WAS AT THE LUNCH AND

87:18

JOINS ME NOW.

87:19

YOU KNOW ME.

87:21

I'M JEALOUS.

87:22

THIS IS A HISTORIC MOMENT.

87:24

WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO WATCH FROM

87:26

THE GROUND?

87:28

>> WE ARRIVED AT THE LAUNCH SITE

87:31

. THE SKIES WERE SOMEWHAT

87:33

CLEAR, WE COULD SEE THE ROCKETS

87:36

READY IN THE DISTANCE AND THEN

87:37

IT GOT DARKER AND DARKER AND

87:41

THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE WE

87:43

WERE NOT SURE THE LAUNCH WAS

87:44

GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WAS

87:46

HEAVY RAIN AND A THUNDERSTORM

87:46

ROLLING IN.

87:47

BUT AS SCHEDULED IT LIFTED OFF

87:51

AT 5:20 7 PM LOCAL TIME.

87:54

WE COULD NOT SEE THE ROCKET

87:56

WITH MUCH CLARITY BUT BOY COULD

87:58

WE FEEL IT. THE GROUND WAS

87:59

SHAKING, THE NOISE BECAME

88:02

DEAFENING AS THIS HISTORIC

88:04

MISSION LIFTED OFF. AROUND THE

88:06

ISLAND THERE WERE TENS OF

88:08

THOUSANDS OF WHO WERE WATCHING

88:09

AS WELL.

88:10

EARLIER IN THE DAY WE WENT TO

88:12

ONE OF THE BEACHES THAT OFFERED

88:15

A BETTER VIEW OF THE LAUNCH

88:16

SITE.

88:17

SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CAMPING

88:18

OUT FOR THREE DAYS JUST TO BE

88:20

ABLE TO CLAIM A SPOT TO WATCH

88:23

THIS MISSION BECAUSE ALONG WITH

88:26

CHINA'S SPACE AMBITIONS AND THE

88:28

GROWTH OF THE PROGRAM AND THE

88:31

ADVANCES THAT THE PROGRAM HAS

88:34

MADE HAS BEEN THE RISE OF THE

88:37

TOURISM INDUSTRY AND IS A

88:40

SOURCE OF EXCITEMENT AND PRIDE.

88:45

FOR THE TOWNS AROUND HERE IT IS

88:48

THE SOURCE OF A NEW ECONOMY AS

88:50

CHINA IS PUSHING TOWARD THESE

88:52

NEW GOALS AND THAT BIG ONE OF

88:54

LANDING ASTRONAUTS ON THE MOON

88:54

BY 2030.

88:56

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BASE

88:58

RACE BECAUSE AMERICA HAS BEEN

89:00

HOPING THAT NEXT YEAR THEY

89:02

WOULD HAVE ASTRONAUTS LOOPING

89:05

AROUND THE MOON AND LANDING ON

89:07

THE MOOD IN 26 OR 27.

89:09

I THINK THAT LOOKING

89:12

INCREASINGLY UNLIKELY.

89:13

WE HAD A NEW INSPECTOR GENERAL

89:15

REPORT SUGGESTING THAT NASA HAS

89:16

THICKENED ENGINEERING

89:17

CHALLENGES BUT THIS IS A REAL

89:20

RACE AND CHINA IS TARGETING TO

89:23

PUT HUMANS ON THE EXACT SPOT

89:26

THAT NASA WANTS TO PUT HUMANS

89:29

ON THE SOUTH POLE.

89:31

>> IT IS A REAL RACE AND ONES

89:34

THAT EXPERTS SAY WILL TAKE

89:36

INNOVATION, TECH KNOWLEDGE HE

89:39

AND HUGE INFUSIONS OF CAPITAL

89:43

IN ORDER TO WIN THE RACE.

89:46

THAT IS WHAT CHINA HAS AS PART

89:49

OF ITS MOMENTUM.

89:51

IT'S THE GOAL OF THE PRESIDENT

89:52

BEING PUSHED THROUGH AND THEY

89:56

HAVE CLEAR TARGETS.

89:57

THEY WANT TO BE LANDING IN 2026

90:00

AND EXPECT TO BE BUILDING A

90:01

BASE BY 2036.

90:03

THE ISSUE OF COURSE IS THE

90:05

COALITION THAT CHINA WOULD

90:07

BRING WITH IT. THERE ARE

90:10

CONCERNS ABOUT PARTNERSHIP THAT

90:12

WAS ANNOUNCED LAST YEAR THAT HE

90:14

WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD

90:18

THIS BASE SO BEYOND THE

90:20

SCIENTIFIC IMPLICATIONS AND

90:22

POSSIBILITIES THERE ARE ALSO

90:28

GEO-POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS

90:29

AND CONCERNS.

90:30

THE HEAD OF SPACE COMMAND

90:32

SAYING RECENTLY THAT CHINA WAS

90:34

ADVANCING AT BREATHTAKING

90:35

SPEEDS AND THAT, FOR HIM, IS A

90:41

WORRY.

90:42

>> ON THE GROUND FOR US, AN

90:44

AMERICAN TOURIST WAITING MONTHS

90:45

TO LEARN HIS FATE MUST WAIT A

90:46

COUPLE WEEKS LONGER AFTER HE

90:47

SAYS HE ACCIDENTALLY BROUGHT

90:50

AMMUNITION IN HIS LUGGAGE TO

90:52

TURKS AND CAICOS.

90:53

BRYAN HAGERICH APPEARED IN

90:55

COURT FOR THE FIRST TIMES HE

90:57

WAS DETAINED IN FEBRUARY.

90:59

HE WAS HEADING HOME WITH HIS

91:00

FAMILY WHEN HE WAS ARREST AND

91:04

FACES UP TO 12 YEARS IN PRISON.

91:07

THE DECISION BY THE JUDGE IS

91:08

EXPECTED LATER THIS MONTH AND

91:09

COULD HAVE AN IMPACT FOR OTHER

91:10

AMERICANS DETAINED ON THAT

91:11

BRITISH TERRITORY FOR SIMILAR

91:14

REASONS.

91:15

SAM, NO CAMERAS WERE ALLOWED IN

91:17

COURT I UNDERSTAND.

91:18

WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED

91:20

AT THIS HEARING TODAY.

91:24

>> IN SOME RESPECTS IT WAS

91:26

STUNNING BECAUSE I THINK THE

91:28

EXPECTATION WAS THERE'S A

91:29

MANDATORY MINIMUM OF 12 YEARS

91:31

AND IN ONE CASE, AN EIGHT ONTH

91:33

SENTENCE UNDER EXCEPTIONAL

91:36

CIRCUIT ANSWERS.

91:38

12 YEARS, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT

91:39

THE PROSECUTOR ASKED FOR IT.

91:41

NOTHING LESS THAN 12 YEARS SO

91:43

HE WAS GOING TO BE SENTENCED ON

91:45

MAY 29 AND THE JUDGE HAS NOT

91:47

TIPPED HER HAND EITHER WAY.

91:49

THIS WAS A LAW CONSTRUCTED TO

91:51

ROOT OUT GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS

91:53

WAVE OF FIREARMS COMING IN FROM

91:55

PLACES LIKE HAITI AND THE US

91:57

BUT IT WAS NOT MEANT TO SWEEP UP

91:59

DADS FROM OKLAHOMA AND

92:01

PENNSYLVANIA WHO TOOK THEIR

92:03

BAGS THROUGH TSA CHECK POINTS

92:05

AND STILL MANAGED TO GET AMMUNITION THROUGH.

92:07

AMMUNITION THROUGH.

92:08

NOW YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE BRYAN

92:14

HAGERICH AND RYAN WATTS AND

92:16

FACING THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES AND

92:17

AS A RESULT OF LIGHTER

92:18

SENTENCES THE COMPANY CORRECT

92:20

COURSE AND THE COURT OF APPEALS

92:23

SAYS YOU HAVE TO ISSUE A

92:24

JUDGMENT.

92:25

I WANT 12 YEARS.

92:26

WE TALKED WITH A SPOKESPERSON

92:27

ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN AND

92:29

WHAT ARE THE STAKES.

92:31

TAKE A LISTEN.

92:33

>> THEY ARE GOING TO MISS THEIR

92:35

KIDS GROWING UP.

92:36

THE OBVIOUS FROM THE RECORD AT

92:37

THE MOMENT THAT THEIR KIDS NEED

92:40

THEIR DADS TO HEAR ABOUT THE

92:43

IMPACT ON BRIAN AND ASHLEY'S

92:45

DAUGHTER HAS BEEN PROFOUND FOR

92:48

ME.

92:50

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT EXCEPTIONAL

92:54

CIRCUMSTANCES.

92:55

MISTER HAGERICH'S ATTORNEYS ARE

92:56

ARGUING NOT JUST THAT HE CAME

93:01

CLEAN RIGHT AWAY, BUT HIS KIDS

93:03

ARE SIX YEARS OLD AND FOUR

93:04

YEARS OLD AND THE OLDER

93:06

DAUGHTER HAVING A HARD TIME

93:07

TRYING TO PRESS THIS-- PROCESS

93:08

THIS AND HE HAS A MOTHER WITH

93:09

PARKINSON'S DISEASE WHO NEEDS

93:10

HIS HELP AND HE HAS MEDICAL

93:12

COMPLICATIONS.

93:13

THE PROSECUTOR IS ARGUING NO

93:16

EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.

93:18

>> AS YOU AND THE INTERVIEW

93:21

SUGGESTED, HE IS ONE OF SEVERAL

93:23

AMERICANS BEING HELD RIGHT NOW

93:25

IN THE COUNTRY PAST TOUGHER

93:28

LAWS BECAUSE OF TRYING TO FIGHT

93:31

GUN VIOLENCE COMING FROM HAITI

93:32

AND THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND

93:34

ELSEWHERE.

93:34

YOU CAN IMAGINE THE JUDGE IS

93:36

ALSO UNDER PRESSURE TO NOT GIVE

93:37

AN EXCEPTION TO A GUY FROM

93:40

AMERICA.

93:41

>> THERE WAS UPROAR AFTER YOU

93:45

HAD A SERIES OF CASES ENDING

93:48

WITH A FINE AND SOME INCLUDED

93:51

AMERICANS OF FIREARMS.

93:52

SO YES YOU ARE SEEING THE OTHER

93:54

END OF THE PENDULUM ON THIS AND

93:56

THE REALITY AS FAR AS HOW THIS

93:58

WILL AFFECT OTHER CASES, SO

94:01

MANY STORIES ARE EXACT THE

94:02

SAME.

94:03

FATHERS OF YOUNG KIDS WHO HAD

94:04

AMMUNITION FROM HUNTING TRIPS

94:07

MONTHS PRIOR SAY THEY DIDN'T

94:09

REALIZE AMMUNITION WAS IN THE

94:10

BAG UNTIL THEY GOT TO TURKS AND

94:12

CAICOS AND NOW HAVE FAMILY

94:13

MEMBERS WHO ARE DEPENDING ON

94:14

THEM AND SAYING ARE YOU REALLY

94:16

TELLING ME I'M GOING TO SPEND

94:19

NINE, 10, 12 YEARS IN PRISON

94:21

HUNDRED'S OF MILES AWAY FROM MY

94:22

FAMILY?

94:22

WE WILL SEE WHERE THE JUDGE

94:26

LANDS IN LESS THAN A MONTH.

94:28

>> I THINK IT'S WORTH

94:30

UNDERSCORING YOU NEED TO KNOW

94:31

WHAT THE LAWS ARE IN THE

94:33

COUNTRY YOU ARE TRAVELING TO AND

94:35

YOUR EXCUSE THAT YOU LEFT

94:36

AMMUNITION IN A BAG IN AMERICA

94:38

MAY NOT CUT IT IN ANOTHER

94:38

COUNTRY.

94:39

AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN CHECK

94:42

YOUR GUN IN YOUR AMMO BUT YOU

94:44

HAVE TO DO IT LEGALLY WITH TSA

94:46

USING A CERTIFIED CASE.

94:47

BUT THAT IS FOR DOMESTIC TRAVEL.

94:49

DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE GOING

94:51

OVERSEAS.

94:52

A LOT OF COUNTRIES HAVE NO

94:54

TOLERANCE.

94:55

SAM BROCK ON THE STORY, THANK

94:56

YOU VERY MUCH.

94:57

>>> A BATTLE BREWING OVER A

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BILLIONAIRES PLANS TO CREATE A

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UTOPIA IN RURAL CALIFORNIA THIS

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IS FROM THE GROUND UP.

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A LOT OF LOCALS ARE NOT SO A

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HALF AND WE ARE COMING BACK WITH THAT.

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>>> BACK WITH TONIGHT'S

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>>> BACK WITH TONIGHT'S

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REGIONAL, IN-DEPTH REPORTING ON

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A TOPIC WE'VE BEEN WATCHING AND

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TONIGHT THERE IS A FIGHT BREWING

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IN A RURAL PART OF CALIFORNIA.

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HOW DOES THIS SOUND?

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A BRAND-NEW TOWN FROM THE

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GROUND UP ALL SPARKLY NEW.

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TECH ENTREPRENEURS HAVE A BOLD

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PLAN TO BUILD EXACTLY THAT BUT

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MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY ARE

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NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT AND SAY THEY

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ARE BEING DECEIVED BY THE

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DEVELOPERS.

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ALLEN LOPEZ HAS THE STORY.

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>> RIGHT NOW A MAJOR

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CONTROVERSY HITTING A FEVER

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PITCH OVER THIS LAND IN

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NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.

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A GROUP OF DEVELOPERS CALLED

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CALIFORNIA FOREVER HAVE OLD

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PLANS TO TURN THIS INTO THE

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NEWEST CITY OF THE COUNTRY.

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THEY HAVE COLLECTED OVER 20,000

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SIGNATURES, THEY ANNOUNCED, TO

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PUT THE PROJECT ON THE BALLOT

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IN NOVEMBER AND LET VOTERS

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DECIDE OF IT SHOULD MOVE

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FORWARD.

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SOME LOCALS HAVE BEEN

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QUESTIONING THE WAY IN WHICH

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PETITIONERS GATHERED THOSE

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SIGNATURES WITH ONE PERSON

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SAYING ON FACEBOOK THAT SHE WAS

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ASKED TO SIGN A PETITION ABOUT

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HEALTHCARE BUT CLAIMED THAT

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AMONG THE PETITIONS SHE WAS

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HANDED, ON THE SAME QUIT., WAS

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ONE FOR THE GROUP TRYING TO

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BUILD THE CITY.

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THEY STATED IN PART QUOTE THAT

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OPPONENTS HAVE BEEN SPREADING

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MISINFORMATION REGARDING THE

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PETITION AND OUR QUOTE

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ATTEMPTING TO CREATE CONFUSION.

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WE SPOKE WITH THE SOLANO COUNTY

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REGISTRAR AND THEY CONFIRMED

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ALL OF THE PETITIONS ARE

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LEGITIMATE

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>> WE ARE A RIGHT TO FORM

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COUNTY.

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>> THEY ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED

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ABOUT PLANS TO BUILD A NEW CITY

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WITH ROOM FOR 4000 PEOPLE WHICH

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IS BASICALLY THE POPULATION OF

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MIAMI OR MINNEAPOLIS, 400,000

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PEOPLE.

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SPEARHEADING THE PROJECT AND

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BACKED BY A GROUP OF SILICON

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VALLEY INVESTORS--

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>> LAND WHERE FOR YEARS AND

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YEARS NOTHING MUCH WAS ABLE TO

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GROW UNTIL NOW.

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>> WE USED TO BUILD NEW CITIES

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ALL THE TIME BUT HAVE NOT DONE

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IT IN 50 YEARS.

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>> THE PROPOSAL WAS THAT THE

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GIANT CITY WOULD BE BUILT FROM

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THE GROUND UP IN A RURAL AREA

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WITH WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS,

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PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION,

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SUSTAINABLE HOMES, AND

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CALIFORNIA FOREVER HAS PLEDGED

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TO CREATE 15,000 NEW JOBS IN

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SECTORS LIKE MANUFACTURING AND

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RENEWABLE ENERGY.

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>> I AM SUPER EXCITED.

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>> IT'S A MAJOR DEPARTURE FROM

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CITIES GROWING IN SPOTS LIKE

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ORLANDO OR HOUSTON BUT THE WAY

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THEY'VE GONE ABOUT IT HAS

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RUFFLED FEATHERS.

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FROM 2017 - 2023 CALIFORNIA

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FOREVER OPERATED AS A COMPANY

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CALLED FLANNERY ASSOCIATES BY

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$800 MILLION WORTH OF LAND

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WITHOUT EVER REVEALING PLANS.

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THEN THEY SUED A GROUP OF LAND

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OWNERS TO THE TUNE OF $550

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MILLION, ACCUSING THEM OF

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CONSPIRING TO DRIVE UP THE

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PRICE OF LAND.

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THE LAWSUIT IS STILL PLAYING

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OUT IN THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF

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CALIFORNIA AND LEADERS ARE

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PUSHING BACK WITH OTHER

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CONCERNS OVER ZONING POWER AND

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WATER RIGHT.

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>> WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO AT 30

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YEARS?

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IS IT THIS PROJECT?

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>> SADIE WILSON IS PART OF A

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COALITION CALLED SOLANO

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TOGETHER AND BELIEVES THE

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TIMELINE IS UNREALISTIC.

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>> CAN WE WERE TOGETHER TO MAKE

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SURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING

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CITIES AND INVESTING IN OUR

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COMMUNITIES?

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>> IT SAYS IT WILL SOLVE THE

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NEED FOR MORE HOUSING AND JOBS

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AND PROMISE IS TO INVEST IN

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SURROUNDING AREAS.

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>> WE HAD THIS AMAZING ECONOMIC

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ENGINE THAT PRODUCES ALL THESE

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INNOVATION THAN WE HAVE AND

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SLOWING IT DOWN BY OUR

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INABILITY TO CREATE ROOM FOR

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GROWTH AND HOMES THAT PEOPLE

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CAN AFFORD.

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>> THERE ARE SO MANY PIECES

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THAT WE AGREE ON, THAT THERE IS

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A NEED FOR HOUSING AND THE NEED

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FOR JOBS BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT

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IS ON THE BALLOT

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>> BOTH SIDES AGREE SOMETHING

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HAS CHANGED BUT WHETHER THAT

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MEANS REINVESTING IN EXISTING

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COMMUNITIES OR STARTING FROM

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SCRATCH, THAT IS UP TO THE

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PEOPLE OF SOLANO COUNTY.

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NBC NEWS LOS ANGELES.

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>> THANK YOU.

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GOOD STORY.

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>>> STILL TO COME, THE VERY

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REAL CONCERNS HANGING OVER ALL

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THE BUZZ AND EXCITEMENT OF ONE

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OF THE MOST ICONIC HORSE RACES

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OF THE COUNTRY.

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THE RAIN HELD OFF JUST IN TIME

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THE RAIN HELD OFF JUST IN TIME

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FOR THAT TO RAPPAPORT HOPEFULLY

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THE SKIES WERE CLEAR TOMORROW.

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