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Summary

TLDRThe video script details a high-stakes trial involving Donald Trump, where Hope Hicks, a former aide, provides key testimony. Hicks, who had a close relationship with Trump, discusses the handling of the infamous Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. The trial aims to establish a link between campaign activities and potential election interference. Additionally, the script covers a congressman's indictment on bribery charges, severe weather events impacting Texas, and the development plans for a new city in California by tech entrepreneurs, which has sparked local controversy.

Takeaways

  • 📰 Tom Costello is substituting for Hallie Jackson, reporting on breaking news about Donald Trump's trial and Hope Hicks' testimony.
  • 💣 Hope Hicks, former aide to Donald Trump, is a key witness in the trial, having worked closely with him during the campaign and White House tenure.
  • 🗓 The infamous Access Hollywood tape from October 2016 is a focal point, as it allegedly led to a series of events including hush money payments.
  • 🤝 Hope Hicks' loyalty to Trump is highlighted, but it's noted that she hasn't spoken to him in two years, indicating a potential shift.
  • 🚨 Prosecutors aim to establish a link between campaign activities and alleged criminal conspiracy to influence the 2016 election.
  • 💭 Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney, is portrayed negatively by Hicks, who questions his motives and actions.
  • 👥 There's a discussion on the jury's perception of Hicks' credibility and the potential impact of her emotional testimony.
  • 🏢 The trial touches on Trump's business practices and his close involvement in the operations, as opposed to a passive role.
  • 🌎 An American tourist faces up to 12 years in prison for inadvertently bringing ammunition to Turks and Caicos.
  • 🌪 Texas is experiencing its ninth straight day of tornado activity, with warnings of more severe weather to come.

Q & A

  • Who is Tom Costello substituting for in the news report?

    -Tom Costello is substituting for Hallie Jackson.

  • What significant event took place during the trial of Donald Trump?

    -Hope Hicks, former aide to Donald Trump, provided key testimony which is considered a significant event in the trial.

  • What was Hope Hicks' role during Donald Trump's campaign?

    -Hope Hicks served as the Press Secretary during Donald Trump's campaign.

  • Why is the Access Hollywood tape relevant to the case against Donald Trump?

    -The Access Hollywood tape, on which Trump made vulgar comments about women, is relevant as it led to a potential crisis during the campaign. Prosecutors allege that this crisis prompted a series of actions, including hush money payments, which are central to the case against Trump.

  • What is the current status of the alleged affair between Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels?

    -Stormy Daniels claims she had an affair with Trump, to which he denies. The case involves alleged hush money payments and is part of the charges against Trump for falsifying business records.

  • What is the significance of Hope Hicks' emotional reaction during her testimony?

    -Hope Hicks' emotional reaction could potentially influence the jury's perception of her credibility and the sincerity of her testimony.

  • Why did Hope Hicks call Michael Cohen regarding the Access Hollywood tape?

    -Hope Hicks called Michael Cohen to inquire if there was another tape that would require damage control, indicating a concern about the potential impact on the election.

  • What is the current stance of Hope Hicks in relation to Donald Trump?

    -Hope Hicks has not spoken to Donald Trump in two years, indicating a distance in their relationship since her departure from the White House.

  • What is the nature of the charges against a sitting Congressman mentioned in the news report?

    -The sitting Congressman, Henry Cuellar, and his wife are charged with accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes from foreign groups, which could lead to a life sentence.

  • What is the current situation in Texas regarding severe weather?

    -Texas is experiencing a severe weather situation with tornadoes and flooding. The state is on its ninth consecutive day of tornado activity, and the Houston area is bracing for a long weekend of more intense flooding.

  • What is the controversy surrounding the plan to build a new city in California?

    -The controversy involves a group of developers called California Forever who plan to build a new city from the ground up. Local residents are concerned about the process, alleging they were misled by the developers, and there are ongoing legal and zoning disputes.

Outlines

00:00

📰 Trump's Trial and Hope Hicks' Testimony

The news report covers the ongoing trial of Donald Trump, focusing on Hope Hicks, a former aide who was close to Trump. Hicks, who once led Trump's campaign and held top roles in his administration, has not spoken to Trump in two years. Her testimony is considered a significant moment in the trial. Prosecutors are particularly interested in the events surrounding the release of the 'Access Hollywood' tape, where Trump was caught making inappropriate comments about women. Hicks stated that she was unaware of the tape until a reporter informed her, and that it was considered a crisis at the time. The report also mentions the alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, who claimed to have had an affair with Trump, which is directly related to the charges against him.

05:03

🤔 The Role of Michael Cohen and Hope Hicks' Credibility

The segment discusses Michael Cohen's role in the campaign and his portrayal as a 'fixer'. Cohen was not officially part of the campaign but was known to volunteer his services due to his interest. The defense team attempts to discredit Cohen, suggesting he acted independently and beyond his remit. Hope Hicks' testimony is highlighted as credible for both the prosecution and defense. She is seen as loyal to Trump and his family, while also being privy to the inner workings of the campaign. Her emotional response during cross-examination is noted, and legal analysts discuss how this might be perceived by the jury. The discussion also touches on the significance of the Access Hollywood tape and the subsequent payments made to silence allegations against Trump.

10:04

🏢 Trump's Involvement in Business and Campaign

This section debates whether Trump was a passive figurehead in his business or an active micromanager. The prosecution argues that Trump was intimately involved in all business aspects, which supports their case that he would have been aware of and directly approved any illicit transactions. The defense, however, paints a picture of Trump as a CEO who signs checks without being involved in the details. The discussion also covers the potential impact of Hicks' testimony on the jury's perception of Trump's involvement in the campaign and his business dealings.

15:05

🗣️ Hope Hicks' Press Duties and Media Strategy

The narrative explores Hope Hicks' role in managing communications during Trump's campaign. It is revealed that she and Stephen Miller were among the few initial staff members, and Hicks had significant responsibility right out of college. The Trump campaign's media strategy is characterized as being driven by Trump himself, with Hicks often relaying his statements directly to the press. The discussion suggests that this unorthodox approach was effective, as it dominated media coverage and didn't require traditional advertising.

20:07

💬 Trustworthiness of Hope Hicks' Testimony

This part of the script questions the reliability of Hope Hicks' testimony, considering she admitted to telling 'white lies' while working for Trump. Despite this, she is portrayed as having maintained her credibility, even among those in Trump's circle. The discussion also involves the potential impact of her testimony on the case and the broader implications for Trump's legal challenges.

25:08

💸 Trump's Campaign Finances and Legal Issues

The segment touches on Trump's campaign finances, noting that he is significantly behind the Biden campaign in terms of fundraising. It also discusses the potential for Trump to gain ground with a broader group of constituents, despite his legal issues. The conversation suggests that Trump's focus on his base might not be enough to overcome his financial and legal challenges.

30:11

🌪️ Texas Tornadoes and Flooding

The report shifts to severe weather events in Texas, detailing the occurrence of tornadoes and the anticipation of more flooding. The region has been experiencing extreme weather conditions, causing significant damage and prompting evacuation orders. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by residents and businesses in the affected areas.

35:12

🏛️ Indictment of a Congressman

The script covers the indictment of a sitting congressman, Henry Cuellar, and his wife, on bribery charges. The charges allege that they accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes from foreign groups. The indictment follows a raid on Cuellar's home and campaign office and could result in a life sentence. Cuellar denies the allegations and still plans to run for reelection.

40:12

🌎 International News Overview

The segment provides a brief overview of various international news stories. These include a tuberculosis outbreak at a hotel in Long Beach, California, with one death and several hospitalizations; a curfew imposed in Newark to address rising crime rates; the discovery of snakes in a passenger's luggage at the Miami airport; and the increasing presence of sea lions in San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf.

45:14

🚨 Legal Consequences for Travelers

The report discusses the case of an American tourist detained in Turks and Caicos for accidentally bringing ammunition in his luggage. The tourist faces up to 12 years in prison, highlighting the importance of being aware of the laws in different countries when traveling.

50:15

🏢 New Town Development Controversy

The script covers a controversy over plans to build a new city in rural California. The developers, California Forever, have collected signatures to put the project to a vote. However, local residents have concerns and feel misled by the developers. The story explores the tension between the need for new housing and the impact of rapid development on existing communities.

55:16

🏇️ Safety Concerns at the Kentucky Derby

The segment addresses concerns over the safety of horses at the Kentucky Derby following the deaths of 12 horses connected to last year's race. Changes have been made to improve safety, including the use of new risk assessment tools and the incorporation of an anti-doping regimen.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Donald Trump

Donald Trump is the 45th President of the United States and a central figure in the video's narrative about a trial and testimony related to alleged misconduct. The discussion revolves around his actions during the 2016 presidential campaign and subsequent White House tenure, highlighting his close relationship with Hope Hicks and the controversy surrounding the 'Access Hollywood' tape.

💡Hope Hicks

Hope Hicks is portrayed as a key witness in the trial, having served as Donald Trump's press secretary and later a top advisor. Her testimony is crucial as it pertains to the alleged scheme to suppress embarrassing stories, which is directly connected to the charges against Trump.

💡Trial

The trial is a legal proceeding where Donald Trump is involved, with the video focusing on a significant day of testimony. It is mentioned in the context of dramatic moments and the examination of Hope Hicks, emphasizing the high stakes and public interest in the case.

💡Access Hollywood Tape

The 'Access Hollywood' tape refers to a 2005 video in which Donald Trump made vulgar comments about women. In the script, it is highlighted as a pivotal moment that led to discussions about damage control and is directly linked to the charges against Trump.

💡Stormy Daniels

Stormy Daniels is an adult film actress who allegedly received hush money payments to keep quiet about an affair with Donald Trump, which he denies. Her involvement is significant as it is tied to the counts of falsifying business records that form part of the case against Trump.

💡Michael Cohen

Michael Cohen is mentioned as Trump's former attorney who arranged payments to Stormy Daniels. His actions and credibility are questioned in the video, with implications that his testimony could be a key element in the trial's outcome.

💡Perjury

Perjury, or the act of lying under oath, is a serious offense that is central to the charges against Donald Trump. The video discusses the potential legal consequences of falsifying business records, which is related to the allegations that Trump's team lied about the payments to Stormy Daniels.

💡Campaign

The campaign refers to Donald Trump's 2016 run for the presidency. The video script discusses the inner workings of the campaign, particularly the communications strategy led by Hope Hicks and the efforts to manage negative press.

💡White House

The White House represents the office of the President of the United States and is mentioned in the context of Hope Hicks's service during Trump's tenure. It is significant as it places the alleged actions within the scope of Trump's official duties and the public trust.

💡Testimony

Testimony in this context refers to the evidence given by Hope Hicks under oath during the trial. Her account of events is crucial to understanding the behind-the-scenes actions of the Trump campaign and White House, and it carries significant weight in the legal proceedings.

💡Damage Control

Damage control is a strategic response to minimize harm to reputation or public perception. In the video, it is discussed in the context of the Trump campaign's reaction to the 'Access Hollywood' tape and the alleged payments to Stormy Daniels, highlighting the attempt to manage and mitigate potential political fallout.

Highlights

Donald Trump is on trial with a key witness, Hope Hicks, providing testimony that could be crucial to the case.

Hope Hicks, former aide to Trump, breaks down during her testimony, indicating the emotional weight of the proceedings.

Prosecutors aim to establish a link between the campaign and alleged criminal conspiracy to influence the 2016 election.

The infamous Access Hollywood tape is a focal point, with questions arising about its potential impact on Trump's campaign strategy.

Damage control mechanisms, including alleged hush money payments, are scrutinized in relation to their legality.

Hope Hicks' credibility is noted by both the prosecution and defense, highlighting her importance as a witness.

The relationship between Hope Hicks and Michael Cohen is explored, with Hicks casting doubt on Cohen's character.

Trump's involvement in his business operations is a key issue, with differing narratives presented by the prosecution and defense.

The jury's perception of sincerity in witness testimony, particularly regarding emotional displays, is discussed.

Legal analysts consider the strength of the prosecution's case and the potential implications of Hicks' testimony.

The role of Vice President Mike Pence in relation to the case is examined, with insights from former Chief of Staff.

The political and legal implications of the trial on Trump's public image and potential campaign strategies are analyzed.

Concerns about the safety and treatment of horses at the Kentucky Derby are raised following a series of horse deaths.

The introduction of new technology and anti-doping measures at the Derby aim to improve horse welfare.

A California man is indicted for threatening Fulton County DA Fani Willis, underlining issues of online harassment and threats against officials.

The U.S. economy's job growth and unemployment rate are discussed, with potential impacts on Federal interest rates.

The search for missing Australian surfer brothers and their American friend in Mexico intensifies, with new evidence and leads.

Transcripts

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BUT THE NEWS CONTINUES WITH TOM

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COSTELLO WHO IS IN FOR HALLIE

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JACKSON RIGHT NOW.

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>>> I AM TOM COSTELLO IN FOR

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HALLIE JACKSON WITH BREAKING

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NEWS SPECIAL REPORT.

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DONALD TRUMP ON TRIAL IN

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PERHAPS THE BIGGEST BOMBSHELL

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DAY OF TESTIMONY YET.

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DRAMATIC MOMENTS AS THE WOMAN

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WHO HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT TO

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EVERYTHING THAT THIS TRIAL WAS

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ABOUT, BREAKS DOWN APPEARING ON

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THE STAND.

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HOPE HICKS, AND AID TO THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT AND WHO HE

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REALLY TREATED LIKE A DAUGHTER.

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SHE LED TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WHEN

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THE ALLEGED SCHEME TO PLACE. A

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VERY EMBARRASSING STORY AND

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THAT WAS BEFORE HE BROUGHT HER

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TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR SOME OF

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HIS TOP ROLES BUT NOW SHE HAS

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NOT SPOKEN TO TRUMP IN TWO

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YEARS.

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TODAY PROSECUTORS WANTED TO

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KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE

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SCENES WHEN THIS MOMENT MADE

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HEADLINES.

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THE INFAMOUS ACCESS HOLLYWOOD

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TATE.

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CAUGHT ON CAMERA MAKING VULGAR

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COMMENTS ABOUT ASSAULTING WOMEN.

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HOPE HICKS WHO WAS HIS PRESS

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SECRETARY SAID SHE DID NOT KNOW

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ABOUT THE TAPE UNTIL SHE HEARD

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FROM A REPORTER THAT THERE WAS

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A CONSENSUS AT THE TIME THAT

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THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CRISIS.

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THE BIG QUESTION.

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WHY DOES THAT MATTER FOR THIS

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CASE NOW?

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WE WILL HIT THE REWIND BUTTON

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TO GO THROUGH THAT.

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SHE SAYS SHE CALLED MICHAEL

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COHEN TO ASK IF THERE WAS

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ANOTHER TAPE THAT WOULD NEED

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DAMAGE CONTROL.

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THAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER 2016

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AND LATER THAT MONTH,

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PROSECUTORS SAY DAMAGE CONTROL

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KICKED IN WITH THE ALLEGED HUSH

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MONEY PAYMENTS TO STORMY DANIELS

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WHO CLAIMS SHE HAD AN AFFAIR

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WITH TRUMP.

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HE DENIES IT. AND THAT THIS IS

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THE REASON WE ARE HERE RIGHT

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NOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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FACING 34 COUNTS OF FALSIFYING

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BUSINESS RECORDS TO WHICH HE HAD

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PLEADED, OF COURSE, NOT GUILTY.

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FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES WE WILL

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TAKE YOU INSIDE OF ALL THE

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ROOMS THAT CAMERAS COULD NOT BE

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IN TODAY.

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IF YOU WERE NOT GLUED TO EVERY

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WORD COMING OUT OF COURT OR IF

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YOU HAD OTHER THINGS TO DO,

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DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

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WE'VE BEEN ON IT AND WE HAVE

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THE DETAILS.

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OUR TEAM OF REPORTERS AND

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POLITICAL AND LEGAL EXPERTS ARE

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READY TO BREAK IT DOWN.

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EVERYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO

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KNOW INSIDE AND BEHIND THE

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SCENES AT THE TRUMP TRIAL.

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WE ARE STARTING LIVE OUTSIDE

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THE COURTHOUSE IN MANHATTAN. AND

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YASMIN, THEY WANT HOPE HICKS

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TO CREATE A DIRECT LINE FROM

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EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE

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CAMPAIGN TO, IN THEIR WORDS, A

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CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO

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INFLUENCE THE ELECTION IN 2016.

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DID THAT HAPPEN TODAY?

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>> OF THEIR OBJECTIVE WAS TO

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CREATE MOTIVE.

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THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE

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PROSECUTION IN THE LEAD UP OF

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THEIR TESTIMONY WITH HOPE

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HICKS.

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THEY BUILT THAT TIMELINE. I

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DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER

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WHETHER THEY-- WHETHER IT

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CREATED THE DIRECT LINE.

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THAT IS UP FOR THE JURY TO

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DECIDE BUT THEY BUILT THIS IDEA

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OF AN INDIVIDUAL, A MAN RUNNING

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FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES IN 2016 AND THE

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REVELATIONS OF THIS ACCESS

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HOLLYWOOD STAGE IN WHICH HOPE

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HICKS WOULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL

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SAYING THERE IS AN ACCESS

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HOLLYWOOD TAPE OUT THERE.

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DO YOU HAVE STATEMENTS YOU WANT

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TO RELEASE PERTAINING TO THOSE?

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SHE RAN UP TO TRUMP TOWER IN

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WHICH THEY WERE PREPARING FOR

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DEBATES A COUPLE DAYS LATER AND

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TALKED WITH THE TEAM ABOUT THE

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REVELATIONS OF THIS TAPE AND

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THE VERACITY OF IT.

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IT WENT ON FROM THERE TO THE

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END OF OCTOBER IN WHICH PAYOUTS

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WERE MADE, PAINTING A PICTURE

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OF A MAN RUNNING FOR ELECTION

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FOR RESIDENT OF THE UNITED

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STATES THESE DETAILS KEPT QUIET

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AND NOT SURE IF THEY WERE GOING

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TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.

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ELECTION.

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>> ARE WE GETTING THE KEY

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ELEMENT, THE DIRECT CONNECTION

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OF INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ALLEGED

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SCHEME?

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BECAUSE SHE DID NOT HAVE A LOT

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OF POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT

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MICHAEL COHEN.

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>> SHE DID NOT.

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LET ME READ SOME OF THE BACK

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AND FORTH FOR YOU IF I CAN.

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SPECIFICALLY SHE SAID I DIDN'T

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KNOW MICHAEL TO BE AND ASK

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ESPECIALLY CHARITABLE PERSON.

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IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO TAKES

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CREDIT.

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TRUMP THOUGHT IT WAS GENEROUS

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OF HIM TO DO AND HE APPRECIATED

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THE LOYALTY.

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MICHAEL FELT LIKE IT WAS HIS

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JOB TO PROTECT HIM.

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THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO THE

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ARTICLE ABOUT THE PAYOFF TO

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STORMY DANIELS.

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IN CROSS-EXAMINATION IT GOT

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EVEN BETTER WHEN IT CAME TO

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MICHAEL COHEN, ASKED WAS MISTER

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COHEN PART OF THE CAMPAIGN?

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HE SAID NO, HE WOULD TRY TO

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INSERT HIMSELF BUT WAS NOT ON

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THE CAMPAIGN IN ANY OFFICIAL

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CAPACITY.

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THERE WERE THINGS HE DID IN A

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VOLUNTARY CAPACITY BECAUSE OF

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HIS INTEREST, AND THEN THIS

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MOMENT WHICH DROVE THINGS HOME

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FOR THE DEFENSE I BELIEVE.

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HE LIKES TO CALL HIMSELF A

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FIXER OR MISTER FIX IT AND IT

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WAS ONLY BECAUSE HE FIRST BROKE

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IT.

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ONE OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS I

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HAD A FROM HER TESTIMONY WAS

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THAT SHE WAS CREDIBLE FOR BOTH

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SIDES.

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BOTH FOR THE PROSECUTION AND

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THE DEFENSE.

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THE PROSECUTION PAINTING THIS

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WOMAN WHO WAS LOYAL TO DONALD

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TRUMP BUT ALSO NEW OF THE INNER

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WORKINGS OF THE CAMPAIGN.

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SHE SERVED AS SOMEONE PAINTING

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS A

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FAMILY MAN WORRIED ABOUT

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EMBARRASSING HIS FAMILY AND HIS

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WIFE.

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>> WE ALSO MENTIONED THAT HICKS

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BECAME EMOTIONAL ON THE STAND.

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REMEMBER THEY HAD NOT SPOKEN

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FOR YEARS.

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WHAT DID THE NBC COLLEGE IN THE

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COURTROOM SEE IN TERMS OF THE

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DYNAMICS AND THE INTERPLAY, IF

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THERE WAS ANY, BETWEEN TRUMP

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AND HICKS?

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>> AT THE BEGINNING OF CROSS

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EXAMINATION SHE GOT FAIRLY

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EMOTIONAL AND TOOK A MOMENTARY

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BREAK TO ALLOW HER TO GATHER

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HERSELF.

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AND THEN SHE REENTERED FOR HER

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CROSS-EXAMINATION.

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I TAKE AWAY FROM THAT MOMENT

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WAS CONSIDERING THE HISTORY

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THAT SHE HAS WITH THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT, AT 25 YEARS OF AGE

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SHE TOOK A JOB IN 2014 WITH THE

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TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND TWO

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YEARS LATER SHE WAS A TOP

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ADVISER.

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INCREDIBLY LOYAL NOT ONLY TO

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS WELL AS

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HIS FAMILY BUT IN 2022 THE

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FAMILY-- THE RELATIONSHIP

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SOURED BECAUSE OF HER TESTIMONY

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OF THE EVENTS LEADING UP TO

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JANUARY 6. THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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WAS WATCHING TESTIMONY DIRECTLY

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THROUGH THE MONITORS AND MAKING

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EYE CONTACT WITH HER DIRECTLY

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DESPITE THEIR CLOSE

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RELATIONSHIP FOR SO MANY YEARS.

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>> INTERESTING.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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YASMIN VOSSOUGHIAN ON SITE IN

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MANHATTAN.

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LET'S NOW GO TO LEGAL ANALYST

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DANNY CEVALLOS AND GEORGETOWN

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CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR

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MICHELLE GOOD ONE.

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DANNY, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF

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THAT EMOTION.

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HOW MIGHT A JURY REACT TO THAT

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EMOTION AND DID IT APPEAR

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SINCERE?

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>> I THINK IT APPEARED VERY

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SINCERE.

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HOPE HICKS DID NOT NEED A LOT

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OF HELP ON THE CREDIBILITY

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METER BUT OF COURSE THAT SHOW

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THE MOTION-- AND JURORS ARE

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GOOD AT TELLING WHETHER

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SOMETHING IS SINCERE OR NOT.

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THE ENTIRE JURY SYSTEM IS

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PREMISED ON THE IDEA THAT WE

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ARE ALL HARDWARE TO WITH THIS

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TRUTH AND LIE DETECTOR ABILITY.

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THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE JURY

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SYSTEM IS.

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PEOPLE ASSESSING CREDIBILITY OF

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OTHER REGULAR FOLKS AND

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DECIDING WHO TO BELIEVE AND WHO

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NOT TO BELIEVE.

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SO EMOTION CAN GO ONE OF TWO

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WAYS.

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IT CAN BE CREDIBLE IN SOME

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CONTEXTS AND COMPLETELY

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INCREDIBLE IN OTHERS.

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BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL

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PICTURE OF HER TESTIMONY, I

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THINK A SHOW OF EMOTION

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PROBABLY CAME ACROSS AS VERY

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GENUINE TO THIS JURY BASED ON

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THE FACT THAT SHE REALLY DID

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NOT HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY ISSUES

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LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER

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PROSECUTION WITNESSES.

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>> LET'S GO TO PROFESSOR GOOD

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ONE.

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YOU'VE BEEN READING NOTES ALL

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DAY. WE ARE READING THE NOTES

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BACK AND FORTH.

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DOES IT APPEAR THAT THE

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PROSECUTION DID A GOOD JOB OF

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CONNECTING THE DOTS FROM THE

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ACCESS HOLLYWOOD TAPE ALL THE

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WAY THROUGH TO THE TIME IN THE

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WHITE HOUSE?

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>> THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO

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DO AND THE FACT THAT HOPE HICKS

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APPEARED CREDIBLE FOR BOTH

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SIDES IS ACTUALLY, COULD BE

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ARGUED TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS

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SUCCESSFUL FOR THE PROSECUTION.

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MUCH OF THE BACKDROP OF THIS,

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SOME PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS IS

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POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, WHAT'S

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TAKING PLACE.

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IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMIND

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PEOPLE THAT THESE ARE 34 FELONY

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COUNTS.

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THESE ARE FELONY COUNTS

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ASSOCIATED WITH THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT DOING BUSINESS IN NEW

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YORK, SO IT'S NOT RELATED TO

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JANUARY 6, IT'S NOT THAT KIND

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OF POLITICAL HYSTERIA THAT HAS

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BEEN FRAMED BUT RATHER, HE IS A

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BUSINESSMAN AND MUST COMPLY

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WITH THE BUSINESS LAWS OF NEW

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YORK.

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THAT IS WHAT THIS STEMS FROM.

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SO THE HUSH MONEY TRIAL ITSELF,

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HUSH MONEY COULD BE SOMETHING

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THAT IS A MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE.

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WHY THIS IS BEING ELEVATED TO

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FELONY COUNTS IS BECAUSE THE

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ALLEGATIONS BY THE PROSECUTORS

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IS THAT THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO

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CONCEAL SOMETHING MORE.

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>> IT SEEMED TO SUGGEST THEY

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WERE VERY MUCH FRONT AND CENTER

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THINKING ABOUT THE ELECTION.

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>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

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IN OCTOBER WITH THIS SALACIOUS

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VIDEO DEAL, HEARING THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT FOR THE ELECTION

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EXPLAINING HOW HE GRABS WOMEN,

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ABOUT HOW HE VIOLATES WOMEN,

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ABOUT HOW HE HAS NO

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CONSIDERATION AND DOES IT ALL

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THE TIME.

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THE FEAR THAT THERE COULD BE

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MORE ALLEGATIONS SUCH AS THAT

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COMING OUT. AND LET'S BE CLEAR,

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THIS IS A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO

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HAS ALREADY BEEN FOUND GUILTY

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OF HAVING VIOLATED SOMEONE AND

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MANY ALLEGATIONS OVER TIME.

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>> DANNY, THERE ARE THESE

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COMPETING IMAGES OF THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT HERE.

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ONE THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PUSH,

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THAT HE IS JUST THE GUY WHO

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SIGNS THE CHECKS AND THERE'S

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ALSO THE ONE THAT HOPE HICKS

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DESCRIBES, OF TRUMP WHO IS

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INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN EVERY

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ASPECT OF HIS BUSINESS AND LIFE.

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WHICH PICTURE IS COMING OFF AS

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MORE COMPELLING OR MORE

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DOMINANT?

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>> THERE ARE REALLY TWO

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AVENUES.

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TRUMP AS THE BOSS OF A LARGE

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CORPORATION THAT REQUIRES

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MINIONS WHO ACT INDEPENDENTLY

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AND THEY HAND HIM CHECKS AND HE

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SIGNS THEM.

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THAT WILL BE THE VIEW OF THE

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WORLD BY THE DEFENSE, AND THEN

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THE PROSECUTION WHICH IS THAT

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DONALD TRUMP IN THIS CLOSELY

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HELD FAMILY COMPANY WAS A

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MICROMANAGER AND WAS ON TOP OF

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EVERYTHING. SO REALLY ONLY ONE

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OF TWO CHOICES ARE AVAILABLE TO

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THE JURY.

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SO FAR THE PEOPLE HAVE PUT IN

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PLENTY OF EVIDENCE.

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AND SOME OF IT HAS SNUCK IN.

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BUT THE IDEA THAT HOPE HICKS

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CONVEYED WAS THAT DONALD TRUMP

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WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS INTIMATELY

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INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE

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BUSINESS.

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THAT IS GOING TO HELP THE

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PROSECUTION MAKE THE CASE THAT

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ONCE THEY'VE PROVEN THE

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TRANSACTIONS, IT IS SOMETHING

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THAT DONALD TRUMP NOT ONLY

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WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT WOULD

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HAVE HAD TO HIM PROVE.

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NOT PASSIVELY BUT DIRECTLY

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APPROVE. ONLY ONE OF TWO IS

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TRUE.

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>> THE DEFENSE REALLY PLAYED

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HARD ON THIS IDEA THAT MICHAEL

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COHEN DESCRIBES HIMSELF AS

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MISTER FIX IT.

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DOES IT HELP THE DEFENSE OR

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HURT THE PROSECUTION?

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>> WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO

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IS SAY THAT HE IS SOMEONE WHO

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HAS POOR CHARACTER OR CANNOT BE

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TRUSTED.

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THIS IS SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP

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HAS SAID, USING THE TERM LIAR

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TO DESCRIBE MICHAEL COHEN.

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THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO LEAVE

12:06

THE JURY WITH.

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SOMEONE WHO EXCEEDED WHAT THE

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BOUNDARIES WERE OF WHAT HE WAS

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CALLED TO DO AND IS NOT

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SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE

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CAMPAIGN AT ALL.

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SO ANYTHING HE DID WAS PRETTY

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MUCH ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY

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KIND OF GUIDANCE OR ANY WAY

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IMPLICATING DONALD TRUMP.

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>> THE IDEA WAS THAT HE WAS

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ROGUE?

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>> THAT'S THE IDEA AND WHETHER

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THAT IS SUCCESSFUL BEFORE THIS

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JURY REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

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>> THANK YOU PROFESSOR GOODWIN