First Take reacts to L.A. Times' controversial article on Kim Mulkey & LSU
Summary
TLDR这篇视频脚本回顾了关于LSU主教练Kim mki的《华盛顿邮报》的长篇报道和《洛杉矶时报》的专栏,后者将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,引发了性别歧视的争议。Moi教练对此表示强烈不满,并要求媒体更正。讨论涉及新闻道德标准、媒体责任以及对年轻运动员的尊重。同时,也探讨了Moi教练的职业生涯和对待球员的态度,以及媒体对她的批评和公众对她的看法。
Takeaways
- 📰《华盛顿邮报》发表了一篇关于LSU主教练Kim Moi的长篇人物特写,但Moi认为文章是负面的。
- 🏀《洛杉矶时报》的一篇专栏文章将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,Moi对此表示强烈不满,认为这是性别歧视。
- 🤬Moi在回应《洛杉矶时报》的文章时表示,可以批评教练,但不能攻击年轻球员,尤其是用性别歧视的语言。
- 👥节目嘉宾同意Moi的观点,认为这些年轻女性球员不应被贴上“脏兮兮的初次登场者”这样的标签。
- 🧐讨论中提到,如果这种描述来自中立的出版物,比如《今日美国》等,可能会引起更大的反响。
- 🏆尽管Moi在教练生涯中取得了辉煌成就,但她与球员的关系和对待方式在过去曾受到质疑。
- 📖讨论中提到了Britney Griner的书和其中对Moi的描述,以及Moi对Griner的性取向的态度。
- 🤔尽管Moi为球员辩护是正确的,但她也需要反思自己过去的行为,比如对待Angel Reese的方式。
- 🤷♂️尽管《洛杉矶时报》的错误转移了对Moi其他问题的注意力,但她仍需面对这些问题。
- 📝文章强调了女性在体育领域所面临的挑战和性别歧视问题。
- 🔍未来的发展和Moi如何应对这些问题仍值得关注。
Q & A
《华盛顿邮报》对LSU主教练Kim mki的专访是什么时候发表的?
-《华盛顿邮报》对LSU主教练Kim mki的专访是在周六发表的。
Moi如何评价《华盛顿邮报》的这篇专访?
-Moi在一份声明中将这篇专访描述为一篇打击性文章,并称之为'hitpiece'。
《洛杉矶时报》是如何看待LSU与UCLA的比赛的?
-《洛杉矶时报》将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶之间的较量,Moi认为这种描述带有性别歧视,是错误的。
Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》的报道有何反应?
-Moi对《洛杉矶时报》的报道表示强烈不满,她认为这种报道是性别歧视的,并且错误地将年轻的运动员描述为'dirty debutants'。
Moi提到的'dirty debutants'是什么意思?
-Moi要求人们拿出手机,立即搜索'dirty debutants'这个词,以了解其含义,并指出这样的描述对于18至21岁的年轻人是不恰当的。
评论员们对于Moi的立场有何看法?
-评论员们普遍支持Moi的立场,认为她有权捍卫自己的队员,不应该让媒体以性别歧视的方式描述年轻的女运动员。
《洛杉矶时报》对于其报道有何回应?
-《洛杉矶时报》为其报道道歉,并修订了文章。
Moi在大学篮球教练生涯中取得了哪些成就?
-Moi在大学篮球教练生涯中取得了辉煌的成就,包括四次冠军和三次年度最佳教练,且在她24年的教练生涯中,每年都带领球队赢得超过20场比赛。
Moi与队员的关系如何?
-Moi与队员的关系复杂,一方面她深爱着她的队员,另一方面她对队员的生活方式,尤其是队员的性取向表现出了不满和排斥。
Moi在处理与队员关系上有哪些争议?
-Moi在处理与队员关系上存在争议,例如她对Britney Griner的态度,以及她对队员Angel Reese的处理方式等。
这次事件对Moi有何影响?
-这次事件使Moi的立场得到了公众的关注和支持,同时也让她面临了更多的审视和批评,需要她反思自己的行为和对待队员的方式。
Outlines
📰《华盛顿邮报》对LSU教练Kim mki的报道
该段落讨论了《华盛顿邮报》对LSU女子篮球队主教练Kim mki的报道,这篇报道是对她职业生涯的回顾,尽管没有新内容,但Moi在上周的声明中将其描述为一篇打击性文章。同时,提到了《洛杉矶时报》在周五发布的一篇专栏,该专栏将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,Moi对此表示强烈不满,认为这是性别歧视。讨论中提到,媒体应对其言论负责,尤其是涉及年轻运动员时,应避免使用带有性别歧视色彩的言辞。
🗣️ 对《洛杉矶时报》文章的批评与反思
这段落中,讨论了《洛杉矶时报》的文章以及其对LSU女子篮球队的不当描述,Moi对此表示强烈反对,并要求媒体对报道内容负责。讨论者们一致认为,尽管可以对教练进行批评,但不应该攻击年轻运动员,尤其是使用性别歧视的语言。讨论还涉及了新闻行业的标准和责任,以及编辑流程中可能出现的问题。
🤔 对Kim mki教练的深入讨论
在这一段中,讨论了Kim mki教练的职业生涯和成就,同时也提到了她与球员的关系以及外界对她的看法。讨论者提到了过去关于Moi教练的一些争议,包括她如何处理球员的个人问题,以及她对待球员的态度是否适当。此外,还讨论了媒体对Moi的评价,以及她如何应对媒体的批评。
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Keywords
💡Washington Post
💡LSU
💡Moi
💡性别歧视
💡媒体批评
💡道歉与更正
💡编辑责任
💡教练与球员关系
💡公众形象
💡体育报道
💡社会责任
Highlights
《华盛顿邮报》发表了一篇关于LSU主教练Kim mki的长篇特写,回顾了其职业生涯,但Moi称之为'打击'。
《洛杉矶时报》发表了一篇将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶之间的较量的专栏,Moi批评其为性别歧视和错误。
Moi在声明中强调,可以批评教练,但不能攻击年轻球员,她反对将比赛描述为善与恶的对决。
Moi要求人们使用手机搜索'dirty debutants'一词,质疑《洛杉矶时报》使用这一词汇来描述18至21岁的年轻人。
讨论中提到,'dirty debutants'是对年轻女性球员的性别歧视和不尊重。
Moi对于媒体的挑战,要求他们了解'dirty debutants'的含义,并反思其对年轻球员的影响。
讨论中提到,如果这种描述来自中立的出版物,可能会造成更大的伤害。
Moi的职业生涯成就被提及,包括24年的大学篮球教练经历和四次冠军头衔。
讨论了Moi与球员的关系,以及她对待球员的方式,特别是她对球员个性的态度。
Moi过去对待球员的方式与现在为球员辩护的行为形成对比,引发对教练责任的讨论。
讨论了《洛杉矶时报》的错误对Moi的影响,以及这是否减少了对她其他问题的关注度。
讨论了女性在体育领域面临的挑战,以及这次事件对女性运动员的意义。
《洛杉矶时报》的错误被指出,但同时也提出了对Moi自身行为的反思。
Moi对于《华盛顿邮报》和《洛杉矶时报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。
讨论了Moi在处理与球员关系方面的学习课程,以及她如何面对媒体的挑战。
《洛杉矶时报》的错误被指出,但同时也提出了对Moi自身行为的反思。
讨论了Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》和《华盛顿邮报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。
讨论了Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》和《华盛顿邮报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。
Transcripts
welcome back on Saturday the long
anticipated Washington Post profile on
LSU head coach Kim mki was published the
piece was a retrospective of M's career
and included no New Revelations though
Moi described it as a hitpiece in a
statement she made last week
anticipating its publication meanwhile
the Los Angeles Times released a column
which came out on Friday that portrayed
LSU's matchup against UCLA as a
reckoning between good versus evil with
Moi calling it sexist awful and wrong
the times apologize and Revis the
article here's Moi addressing the LA
Times piece you can criticize coaches
all you want that's our business you can
come at us and say you're the worst
coach in America I hate you I hate
everything about you we expect
that comes with the
territory but the one thing I'm not
going to let you
do I'm not going to let you attack young
people it was so sexist
and they don't even know
it it was good versus evil in that game
today
evil called us dirty debutants take your
phone out right now and Google dirty
debutant and tell me what it
says dirty
debutants are you kidding
me I'm not going to let you talk about
18 to 21 year old kids
in that
tone all right Shannon I'm going to
start with you what is your reaction to
all of this I agree I I've been on
record I'm not the biggest fan of Kim
Moi but she's absolutely right in this
situation it's sad because as she
mentioned these are 18 to 21 year old
these are college young ladies and you
think of them as dirty debutants Google
it I wish they had done what she had
asked them to do and see what it takes
you to now I understand I'm from the
south so I understand what a debutant
ball is uh there were what it is Stephen
as a young lady supposed to be a going
into adulthood and so they get all
dressed up and they they put on their
nice fancy gowns and off to they go and
you say dirty debutants and then you say
the others are milk and cookies really
for entrance formal entrance into
society that's the way lab yeah really
really I mean come on now is that is
that where we are now if you're going to
say the one program is but to to B take
it to this point because we we see what
it is sex is there's a a I am not going
to even say a tinge because when you say
one team is dirty and the other team is
milk and cookies really villains when
did it's almost like Stephen I know you
remember when they had Miami played
Notre Dame and it was the Catholics
versus the convicts yep and we we we see
where this is headed what what did you
hope to get out of that and Stephen A it
was so bad they had to do some
retractions but it had already it
already been printed so you can't pull
back what somebody has already read it's
kind of like when I'm in a courtroom
Stephen that we're in a courtroom and I
said something and you object I object
your honor and honor says objection
substain how do I make the jury unhear
what I heard what they heard right how
do you make people unread what they've
already read you've already called them
the dirty debutant you've already said
these inflammatory sexist things about
them and for that Stephen you can you
know more about this you were in the
journalism you were in the newspaper
business I'm assuming that when you
write a column it has to go to the
editor yes so the editor had to have
signed off on this and now goad an
editor's desk it's copy editor an
editor's desk it goes through like two
or three layers before it goes to print
that is true so and or now and you gonna
come out and say it didn't meet the
standard when after the fact Stephen
they just told me it goes to two or
three levels so it met the standard
enough to get out one time and then you
get the back glass and you hear what
comes from what you wrote or what you
allowed to now you said it didn't meet
the editorial standards and we're going
to you're going to have a retraction to
some of it it's too late Kim Moi is
exactly correct this thing should have
never been written I don't really know
what you hope to gain by saying talking
about 18 to 21 year old young ladies in
this capacity I don't get what they got
out of this but it was totally wrong and
she's absolutely right Kim Moi was
absolutely right
and she was right to point it out she
was right to point out what it was in
terms of the sexism that uh was was
displayed uh and she was also right to
challenge the media in attendant to pull
out their phones and look up deputes and
and what that means and what was trying
to be implied here here's what I would
tell you Shannon when it comes to the
newspaper industry and what the Los
Angeles Times should have done there is
always a boss there is always a leader
in everything that we do put Shannon up
on the screen so I can see him please
there's always that what happens is
whoever had the power to say quote it
did not meet the times editorial
standards should have went a step
further and apologized and said on
behalf of this paper that is not our
standard that was never supposed to be
in print it is something that we will
address we apologize
and we will make sure it does not happen
again very very simple they didn't go
that far they just stopped there and
that's where the mistake was what
happens is is that as damaging and as
bad as this as this was it would have
been significantly worse if it came from
a neutral publication or a national
publication if the USA Today or somebody
like that did it it would it would
resonate even further here's the reason
why the Los Angeles times you know who
they rooting for yeah the home paper of
course so you you Roo for the home paper
you see what I'm saying and so if you
get an opportunity to paint somebody as
the villain while you're you know you're
pristine and you're like the dove flying
in the sky you know nothing blemishes
you you can understand what their intent
was but they went too damn far and they
made that mistake had it been a national
publication all right or somebody that
was neutral if this was some paper in
New York or wherever that decided to
that it would have been far far more
damaging because where's the homerism
there there's no excuse for you to be
favoring one over the other in any kind
of fashion right but in the Los Angeles
Times that's the only thing that they
have to lean on with this mistake
getting to Moi let's understand
something about Moi here because she's
made news over the last week and a half
two weeks for several reasons okay
calling out the Washington Post before
the article came out and all of this
other stuff and it turned out to just be
you know a regurgitation of some of the
things we already knew her relation
Britney Brer and all of this other stuff
it ain't the greatest look in the world
but it was no surprise in the end Kim
Moi has been coaching in college
basketball for 24 years she's a
four-time champion she's a three-time
coach of the year do you know that she's
never had a season where she's loost
she's she's won less than 20 games every
single year of her career she's won more
than 20 games so there's no questioning
her about her coaching acent
only has been she's Elite so what do you
get to you get to the personal and
here's where the personal lies the
personal lies and her relationship with
players how it's perceived she has
treated some of her players particularly
her off-putting personality or approach
or whatever word you want to use to
their quote unquote sexuality this is
according to a book Britney grer wrote
according to excerpts according to
things that have been discussed in the
end
her turning around and being defensive
for on behalf of her players people will
look at her and say well at least you're
doing that these days because clearly
there were times in the past where we
wish you would have and you didn't right
you love she love she loved the players
but not the players lifestyle right and
so that's what that's what seemingly
annoyed her or what she tried to shy
away from or ask Britney to suppress
don't be so outwardly or so open about
it when she was around campus but that's
who Britney grinder chose to live her
life as and so I agree with you Stephen
A at least she did come to the defense
of her players in this situation and it
was rightfully so it's not quite to the
level of what Don IM said Stephen I know
you remember what he said it's not that
but there were the implications are
there when you refer to them because the
majority of LSU players are
African-Americans black and UCLA is is
seen as Lily White pris
the milk and cookies the wholesome while
these are dirty debutant but like I said
people at home if you didn't get an
opportunity Google and see what comes up
on your Google when you Google that word
yeah and now we we got to look at it for
what it is and again but also Kim Moi
needs to be there's a Learning lesson in
all of this as well as she continues to
excoriate what the Los Angeles Times did
what the Washington Post did it does
call upon her to look in the mirror
because we still got questions as to how
she treated Angel Reese at the beginning
of this season right and what was that
all about we know about the whole
Britney gr thing because Britney gr told
us there's a there's a few incidences
where in Shannon has pointed to weeks
ago when you went off about Kim Moi
where she gives you cause to pause
because of her dismissiveness when
Britney grer was stuck in Russia right
and we didn't know whether she was going
to be able to get you know you get get
out of there okay and you you were you
had hope for an elevated level of ensity
from Kimi that she did not give you and
then to come out and say well you know
what they got this article that's coming
out about me and they only gave us a
couple of days to respond when you know
they had been chasing you for two years
to interview you that doesn't make much
sense but in the end the Los Angeles
times has helped her this week because
they were clearly wrong in what they did
and the focus being on that sort of
limits the level of attention you're
throwing in Kim Mo's direction for a
pleth of other reasons so we can't
ignore that either I do want to say
Stephen the point about it being in La
the LA time specifically is a really
good point but I do think that this
article specifically highlights a lot of
the issues that women have dealt with in
the sporting space and Athletics in
general so um definitely a lot to learn
there with the situation um we'll see
what happens moving forward and not
absolving the Los Angeles Times and end
W I'm just saying all of us would
receive it a even more fiercely had it
come from a neutral exactly publication
yeah
La ain't neutral when it comes to UCLA
USC etc for sure that makes a lot of
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