First Take reacts to L.A. Times' controversial article on Kim Mulkey & LSU

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1 Apr 202411:15

Summary

TLDR这篇视频脚本回顾了关于LSU主教练Kim mki的《华盛顿邮报》的长篇报道和《洛杉矶时报》的专栏,后者将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,引发了性别歧视的争议。Moi教练对此表示强烈不满,并要求媒体更正。讨论涉及新闻道德标准、媒体责任以及对年轻运动员的尊重。同时,也探讨了Moi教练的职业生涯和对待球员的态度,以及媒体对她的批评和公众对她的看法。

Takeaways

  • 📰《华盛顿邮报》发表了一篇关于LSU主教练Kim Moi的长篇人物特写,但Moi认为文章是负面的。
  • 🏀《洛杉矶时报》的一篇专栏文章将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,Moi对此表示强烈不满,认为这是性别歧视。
  • 🤬Moi在回应《洛杉矶时报》的文章时表示,可以批评教练,但不能攻击年轻球员,尤其是用性别歧视的语言。
  • 👥节目嘉宾同意Moi的观点,认为这些年轻女性球员不应被贴上“脏兮兮的初次登场者”这样的标签。
  • 🧐讨论中提到,如果这种描述来自中立的出版物,比如《今日美国》等,可能会引起更大的反响。
  • 🏆尽管Moi在教练生涯中取得了辉煌成就,但她与球员的关系和对待方式在过去曾受到质疑。
  • 📖讨论中提到了Britney Griner的书和其中对Moi的描述,以及Moi对Griner的性取向的态度。
  • 🤔尽管Moi为球员辩护是正确的,但她也需要反思自己过去的行为,比如对待Angel Reese的方式。
  • 🤷‍♂️尽管《洛杉矶时报》的错误转移了对Moi其他问题的注意力,但她仍需面对这些问题。
  • 📝文章强调了女性在体育领域所面临的挑战和性别歧视问题。
  • 🔍未来的发展和Moi如何应对这些问题仍值得关注。

Q & A

  • 《华盛顿邮报》对LSU主教练Kim mki的专访是什么时候发表的?

    -《华盛顿邮报》对LSU主教练Kim mki的专访是在周六发表的。

  • Moi如何评价《华盛顿邮报》的这篇专访?

    -Moi在一份声明中将这篇专访描述为一篇打击性文章,并称之为'hitpiece'。

  • 《洛杉矶时报》是如何看待LSU与UCLA的比赛的?

    -《洛杉矶时报》将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶之间的较量,Moi认为这种描述带有性别歧视,是错误的。

  • Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》的报道有何反应?

    -Moi对《洛杉矶时报》的报道表示强烈不满,她认为这种报道是性别歧视的,并且错误地将年轻的运动员描述为'dirty debutants'。

  • Moi提到的'dirty debutants'是什么意思?

    -Moi要求人们拿出手机,立即搜索'dirty debutants'这个词,以了解其含义,并指出这样的描述对于18至21岁的年轻人是不恰当的。

  • 评论员们对于Moi的立场有何看法?

    -评论员们普遍支持Moi的立场,认为她有权捍卫自己的队员,不应该让媒体以性别歧视的方式描述年轻的女运动员。

  • 《洛杉矶时报》对于其报道有何回应?

    -《洛杉矶时报》为其报道道歉,并修订了文章。

  • Moi在大学篮球教练生涯中取得了哪些成就?

    -Moi在大学篮球教练生涯中取得了辉煌的成就,包括四次冠军和三次年度最佳教练,且在她24年的教练生涯中,每年都带领球队赢得超过20场比赛。

  • Moi与队员的关系如何?

    -Moi与队员的关系复杂,一方面她深爱着她的队员,另一方面她对队员的生活方式,尤其是队员的性取向表现出了不满和排斥。

  • Moi在处理与队员关系上有哪些争议?

    -Moi在处理与队员关系上存在争议,例如她对Britney Griner的态度,以及她对队员Angel Reese的处理方式等。

  • 这次事件对Moi有何影响?

    -这次事件使Moi的立场得到了公众的关注和支持,同时也让她面临了更多的审视和批评,需要她反思自己的行为和对待队员的方式。

Outlines

00:00

📰《华盛顿邮报》对LSU教练Kim mki的报道

该段落讨论了《华盛顿邮报》对LSU女子篮球队主教练Kim mki的报道,这篇报道是对她职业生涯的回顾,尽管没有新内容,但Moi在上周的声明中将其描述为一篇打击性文章。同时,提到了《洛杉矶时报》在周五发布的一篇专栏,该专栏将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶的较量,Moi对此表示强烈不满,认为这是性别歧视。讨论中提到,媒体应对其言论负责,尤其是涉及年轻运动员时,应避免使用带有性别歧视色彩的言辞。

05:01

🗣️ 对《洛杉矶时报》文章的批评与反思

这段落中,讨论了《洛杉矶时报》的文章以及其对LSU女子篮球队的不当描述,Moi对此表示强烈反对,并要求媒体对报道内容负责。讨论者们一致认为,尽管可以对教练进行批评,但不应该攻击年轻运动员,尤其是使用性别歧视的语言。讨论还涉及了新闻行业的标准和责任,以及编辑流程中可能出现的问题。

10:03

🤔 对Kim mki教练的深入讨论

在这一段中,讨论了Kim mki教练的职业生涯和成就,同时也提到了她与球员的关系以及外界对她的看法。讨论者提到了过去关于Moi教练的一些争议,包括她如何处理球员的个人问题,以及她对待球员的态度是否适当。此外,还讨论了媒体对Moi的评价,以及她如何应对媒体的批评。

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Keywords

💡Washington Post

华盛顿邮报是美国的一份重要报纸,以其深入的调查报道和广泛的新闻覆盖而闻名。在视频中,提到了华盛顿邮报发表了一篇关于LSU主教练Kim mki的长篇人物特写,这篇特写回顾了其职业生涯,尽管没有新内容,但Moi在声明中将其描述为负面报道。

💡LSU

LSU是路易斯安那州立大学的缩写,这所大学位于美国路易斯安那州,是一所公立研究型大学。在视频中,LSU的篮球队和其主教练Kim mki成为了讨论的焦点,特别是关于媒体对她们比赛的报道。

💡Moi

Moi是LSU女篮主教练Kim Mulkey的昵称。在视频中,Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》的报道表示强烈不满,认为该报道存在性别歧视,并且攻击了年轻运动员。

💡性别歧视

性别歧视指的是基于性别的不公平对待或偏见行为。在视频中,Moi指责《洛杉矶时报》的报道存在性别歧视,因为它使用了贬低年轻女性运动员的言辞。

💡媒体批评

媒体批评是指对媒体内容、报道方式或其影响力等方面的评价和指责。在视频中,Moi对《华盛顿邮报》和《洛杉矶时报》的报道进行了批评,认为这些报道不仅不准确,还对年轻运动员造成了伤害。

💡道歉与更正

道歉与更正是在发现错误或不当行为后,采取的纠正措施,包括公开道歉和改正错误信息。在视频中,尽管《洛杉矶时报》对文章进行了更正,但Moi认为这不足以弥补其造成的损害。

💡编辑责任

编辑责任是指编辑在出版内容前对其进行审查和批准的责任。在视频中,提到了《洛杉矶时报》的文章在发表前应该经过编辑的审核,但最终仍出现了问题。

💡教练与球员关系

教练与球员关系指的是体育教练和其队员之间的互动和相互影响。在视频中,Moi的教练风格和与球员的关系成为了讨论的话题,尤其是她对球员个性和生活方式的态度。

💡公众形象

公众形象是指个人或组织在公众心目中形成的印象和认知。在视频中,Moi和她的球队的公众形象受到了媒体报道的影响,这对她的职业和球队的声誉有重要影响。

💡体育报道

体育报道是媒体对体育赛事、运动员和相关话题的新闻报道。在视频中,对LSU和UCLA比赛的报道成为了讨论的焦点,特别是报道中可能存在的偏见和歧视问题。

💡社会责任

社会责任是指个人或组织在行为和决策中考虑对社会的影响和责任。在视频中,媒体被指责没有承担起正确的社会责任,通过性别歧视的言辞伤害了年轻运动员。

Highlights

《华盛顿邮报》发表了一篇关于LSU主教练Kim mki的长篇特写,回顾了其职业生涯,但Moi称之为'打击'。

《洛杉矶时报》发表了一篇将LSU与UCLA的比赛描述为善与恶之间的较量的专栏,Moi批评其为性别歧视和错误。

Moi在声明中强调,可以批评教练,但不能攻击年轻球员,她反对将比赛描述为善与恶的对决。

Moi要求人们使用手机搜索'dirty debutants'一词,质疑《洛杉矶时报》使用这一词汇来描述18至21岁的年轻人。

讨论中提到,'dirty debutants'是对年轻女性球员的性别歧视和不尊重。

Moi对于媒体的挑战,要求他们了解'dirty debutants'的含义,并反思其对年轻球员的影响。

讨论中提到,如果这种描述来自中立的出版物,可能会造成更大的伤害。

Moi的职业生涯成就被提及,包括24年的大学篮球教练经历和四次冠军头衔。

讨论了Moi与球员的关系,以及她对待球员的方式,特别是她对球员个性的态度。

Moi过去对待球员的方式与现在为球员辩护的行为形成对比,引发对教练责任的讨论。

讨论了《洛杉矶时报》的错误对Moi的影响,以及这是否减少了对她其他问题的关注度。

讨论了女性在体育领域面临的挑战,以及这次事件对女性运动员的意义。

《洛杉矶时报》的错误被指出,但同时也提出了对Moi自身行为的反思。

Moi对于《华盛顿邮报》和《洛杉矶时报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。

讨论了Moi在处理与球员关系方面的学习课程,以及她如何面对媒体的挑战。

《洛杉矶时报》的错误被指出,但同时也提出了对Moi自身行为的反思。

讨论了Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》和《华盛顿邮报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。

讨论了Moi对于《洛杉矶时报》和《华盛顿邮报》的批评,以及她对媒体的挑战。

Transcripts

00:01

welcome back on Saturday the long

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anticipated Washington Post profile on

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LSU head coach Kim mki was published the

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piece was a retrospective of M's career

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and included no New Revelations though

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Moi described it as a hitpiece in a

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statement she made last week

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anticipating its publication meanwhile

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the Los Angeles Times released a column

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which came out on Friday that portrayed

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LSU's matchup against UCLA as a

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reckoning between good versus evil with

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Moi calling it sexist awful and wrong

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the times apologize and Revis the

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article here's Moi addressing the LA

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Times piece you can criticize coaches

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all you want that's our business you can

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come at us and say you're the worst

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coach in America I hate you I hate

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everything about you we expect

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that comes with the

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territory but the one thing I'm not

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going to let you

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do I'm not going to let you attack young

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people it was so sexist

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and they don't even know

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it it was good versus evil in that game

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today

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evil called us dirty debutants take your

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phone out right now and Google dirty

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debutant and tell me what it

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says dirty

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debutants are you kidding

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me I'm not going to let you talk about

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18 to 21 year old kids

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in that

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tone all right Shannon I'm going to

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start with you what is your reaction to

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all of this I agree I I've been on

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record I'm not the biggest fan of Kim

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Moi but she's absolutely right in this

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situation it's sad because as she

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mentioned these are 18 to 21 year old

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these are college young ladies and you

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think of them as dirty debutants Google

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it I wish they had done what she had

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asked them to do and see what it takes

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you to now I understand I'm from the

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south so I understand what a debutant

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ball is uh there were what it is Stephen

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as a young lady supposed to be a going

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into adulthood and so they get all

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dressed up and they they put on their

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nice fancy gowns and off to they go and

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you say dirty debutants and then you say

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the others are milk and cookies really

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for entrance formal entrance into

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society that's the way lab yeah really

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really I mean come on now is that is

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that where we are now if you're going to

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say the one program is but to to B take

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it to this point because we we see what

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it is sex is there's a a I am not going

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to even say a tinge because when you say

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one team is dirty and the other team is

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milk and cookies really villains when

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did it's almost like Stephen I know you

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remember when they had Miami played

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Notre Dame and it was the Catholics

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versus the convicts yep and we we we see

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where this is headed what what did you

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hope to get out of that and Stephen A it

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was so bad they had to do some

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retractions but it had already it

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already been printed so you can't pull

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back what somebody has already read it's

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kind of like when I'm in a courtroom

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Stephen that we're in a courtroom and I

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said something and you object I object

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your honor and honor says objection

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substain how do I make the jury unhear

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what I heard what they heard right how

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do you make people unread what they've

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already read you've already called them

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the dirty debutant you've already said

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these inflammatory sexist things about

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them and for that Stephen you can you

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know more about this you were in the

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journalism you were in the newspaper

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business I'm assuming that when you

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write a column it has to go to the

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editor yes so the editor had to have

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signed off on this and now goad an

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editor's desk it's copy editor an

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editor's desk it goes through like two

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or three layers before it goes to print

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that is true so and or now and you gonna

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come out and say it didn't meet the

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standard when after the fact Stephen

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they just told me it goes to two or

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three levels so it met the standard

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enough to get out one time and then you

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get the back glass and you hear what

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comes from what you wrote or what you

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allowed to now you said it didn't meet

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the editorial standards and we're going

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to you're going to have a retraction to

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some of it it's too late Kim Moi is

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exactly correct this thing should have

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never been written I don't really know

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what you hope to gain by saying talking

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about 18 to 21 year old young ladies in

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this capacity I don't get what they got

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out of this but it was totally wrong and

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she's absolutely right Kim Moi was

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absolutely right

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and she was right to point it out she

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was right to point out what it was in

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terms of the sexism that uh was was

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displayed uh and she was also right to

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challenge the media in attendant to pull

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out their phones and look up deputes and

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and what that means and what was trying

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to be implied here here's what I would

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tell you Shannon when it comes to the

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newspaper industry and what the Los

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Angeles Times should have done there is

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always a boss there is always a leader

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in everything that we do put Shannon up

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on the screen so I can see him please

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there's always that what happens is

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whoever had the power to say quote it

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did not meet the times editorial

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standards should have went a step

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further and apologized and said on

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behalf of this paper that is not our

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standard that was never supposed to be

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in print it is something that we will

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address we apologize

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and we will make sure it does not happen

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again very very simple they didn't go

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that far they just stopped there and

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that's where the mistake was what

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happens is is that as damaging and as

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bad as this as this was it would have

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been significantly worse if it came from

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a neutral publication or a national

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publication if the USA Today or somebody

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like that did it it would it would

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resonate even further here's the reason

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why the Los Angeles times you know who

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they rooting for yeah the home paper of

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course so you you Roo for the home paper

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you see what I'm saying and so if you

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get an opportunity to paint somebody as

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the villain while you're you know you're

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pristine and you're like the dove flying

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in the sky you know nothing blemishes

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you you can understand what their intent

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was but they went too damn far and they

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made that mistake had it been a national

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publication all right or somebody that

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was neutral if this was some paper in

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New York or wherever that decided to

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that it would have been far far more

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damaging because where's the homerism

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there there's no excuse for you to be

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favoring one over the other in any kind

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of fashion right but in the Los Angeles

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Times that's the only thing that they

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have to lean on with this mistake

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getting to Moi let's understand

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something about Moi here because she's

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made news over the last week and a half

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two weeks for several reasons okay

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calling out the Washington Post before

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the article came out and all of this

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other stuff and it turned out to just be

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you know a regurgitation of some of the

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things we already knew her relation

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Britney Brer and all of this other stuff

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it ain't the greatest look in the world

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but it was no surprise in the end Kim

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Moi has been coaching in college

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basketball for 24 years she's a

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four-time champion she's a three-time

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coach of the year do you know that she's

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never had a season where she's loost

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she's she's won less than 20 games every

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single year of her career she's won more

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than 20 games so there's no questioning

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her about her coaching acent

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only has been she's Elite so what do you

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get to you get to the personal and

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here's where the personal lies the

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personal lies and her relationship with

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players how it's perceived she has

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treated some of her players particularly

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her off-putting personality or approach

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or whatever word you want to use to

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their quote unquote sexuality this is

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according to a book Britney grer wrote

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according to excerpts according to

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things that have been discussed in the

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end

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her turning around and being defensive

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for on behalf of her players people will

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look at her and say well at least you're

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doing that these days because clearly

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there were times in the past where we

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wish you would have and you didn't right

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you love she love she loved the players

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but not the players lifestyle right and

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so that's what that's what seemingly

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annoyed her or what she tried to shy

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away from or ask Britney to suppress

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don't be so outwardly or so open about

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it when she was around campus but that's

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who Britney grinder chose to live her

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life as and so I agree with you Stephen

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A at least she did come to the defense

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of her players in this situation and it

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was rightfully so it's not quite to the

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level of what Don IM said Stephen I know

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you remember what he said it's not that

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but there were the implications are

08:48

there when you refer to them because the

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majority of LSU players are

08:53

African-Americans black and UCLA is is

08:57

seen as Lily White pris

08:59

the milk and cookies the wholesome while

09:02

these are dirty debutant but like I said

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people at home if you didn't get an

09:07

opportunity Google and see what comes up

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on your Google when you Google that word

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yeah and now we we got to look at it for

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what it is and again but also Kim Moi

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needs to be there's a Learning lesson in

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all of this as well as she continues to

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excoriate what the Los Angeles Times did

09:25

what the Washington Post did it does

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call upon her to look in the mirror

09:30

because we still got questions as to how

09:32

she treated Angel Reese at the beginning

09:33

of this season right and what was that

09:35

all about we know about the whole

09:37

Britney gr thing because Britney gr told

09:39

us there's a there's a few incidences

09:41

where in Shannon has pointed to weeks

09:43

ago when you went off about Kim Moi

09:46

where she gives you cause to pause

09:47

because of her dismissiveness when

09:49

Britney grer was stuck in Russia right

09:51

and we didn't know whether she was going

09:52

to be able to get you know you get get

09:54

out of there okay and you you were you

09:56

had hope for an elevated level of ensity

09:59

from Kimi that she did not give you and

10:02

then to come out and say well you know

10:04

what they got this article that's coming

10:06

out about me and they only gave us a

10:08

couple of days to respond when you know

10:10

they had been chasing you for two years

10:12

to interview you that doesn't make much

10:14

sense but in the end the Los Angeles

10:16

times has helped her this week because

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they were clearly wrong in what they did

10:21

and the focus being on that sort of

10:25

limits the level of attention you're

10:26

throwing in Kim Mo's direction for a

10:28

pleth of other reasons so we can't

10:30

ignore that either I do want to say

10:32

Stephen the point about it being in La

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the LA time specifically is a really

10:36

good point but I do think that this

10:37

article specifically highlights a lot of

10:39

the issues that women have dealt with in

10:41

the sporting space and Athletics in

10:43

general so um definitely a lot to learn

10:45

there with the situation um we'll see

10:47

what happens moving forward and not

10:49

absolving the Los Angeles Times and end

10:50

W I'm just saying all of us would

10:52

receive it a even more fiercely had it

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come from a neutral exactly publication

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yeah

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La ain't neutral when it comes to UCLA

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USC etc for sure that makes a lot of

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sense