'REAL PROBLEM': Ex-federal prosecutor warns 'we're deep in a lawfare system'
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the resumption of former President Trump's trial in New York, with Judge Merchan instructing the jury on deliberation procedures. The trial's outcome could range from a quick acquittal to a lengthy hung jury situation. The conversation highlights the prosecution's failure to prove the crime's basic elements and the defense's strategy focusing on Michael Cohen's credibility. There's also concern about the political bias of the judicial process and the potential implications of the trial's result on the upcoming election. The panelists express their views on the judge's instructions, the possibility of a mistrial, and the broader issues of 'lawfare' and political attacks.
Takeaways
- 🕵️ Former Federal Prosecutor Andrew Cherkaskey believes that the prosecution failed to prove the basic elements of the crime, specifically the incorrect entry into the business records of legal expenses.
- 🏛 Judge Merchan is expected to give instructions to the jury, which could influence the outcome of the trial significantly.
- 🕒 The deliberations could last from a few hours to a few weeks, indicating the complexity and importance of the case.
- 📣 Trump's attorney is focusing on discrediting Michael Cohen, calling him the 'greatest liar of all time', to counter the prosecution's case.
- 🗣️ The prosecution argues that Stormy Daniels' testimony is crucial as it illustrates the motive for the alleged crime.
- 🤔 There's a possibility of a hung jury, which could lead to a mistrial and potentially a retrial before the November election.
- 🚫 Judge Merchan is accused by some of not allowing certain instructions to the jury, such as clarifying that hush money payments are not illegal.
- 🔍 There are concerns about the selection of judges in the New York judicial process, with suspicions that it may not be random or independent.
- 📢 The White House has already indicated plans for attacks on Trump if he is acquitted, which could influence public perception and potentially the jury.
- 👥 The discussion highlights the presence of political bias and the impact it could have on the trial's outcome.
- 📉 The case and the surrounding controversy could potentially damage faith in the New York State judicial system and deter businesses.
Q & A
When is the New York trial of former President Trump scheduled to resume?
-The trial resumes at 10:00 A.M. Eastern time.
How long is expected for the jury instructions by Judge Merchan?
-The jury instructions should take about an hour.
What is the duration of the deliberations on the first day?
-Deliberations will begin and last until 4:30 P.M. today.
How long could the deliberations potentially last?
-Deliberations could last from a few hours to a few weeks.
What is the main argument from Trump's attorney regarding Michael Cohen's testimony?
-Trump's attorney is attacking Cohen's credibility, calling him the greatest liar of all time.
What does the prosecution argue about Stormy Daniels' testimony?
-The prosecution argues that Daniels' testimony illustrates the motive for the crime.
What is Andrew Cherkasky's opinion on the prosecution's case?
-Andrew Cherkasky believes the prosecution failed to prove some of the basic elements of the crime, specifically the incorrect entry into the business records of legal expenses.
What does Cherkasky suggest could be a possible outcome of the trial?
-Cherkasky suggests a hung jury could be a possible outcome, which would be interesting to observe.
What would happen if there is a hung jury?
-If there is a hung jury, the DA's office would have the option to retry Trump, and it is likely they would do so.
What is the concern regarding the judge's instructions to the jury?
-The concern is that the judge's instructions could lead to confusion and potential legal gymnastics, which could be ripe for appeal.
What is the controversy surrounding Judge Merchan's handling of the case?
-There is controversy because Judge Merchan has previously overseen cases related to Trump's circle, leading to questions about the randomness and impartiality of his selection.
What is the implication if Trump is convicted before the election?
-If Trump is convicted before the election, there would be a conviction hanging over him, potentially influencing the election outcome, and it might not be overturned until after the election.
What is the potential impact on business in New York due to the political climate?
-The implication is that businesses may perceive New York as a precarious place to operate, especially if they bring politics to the table that could impact how they are investigated and potentially prosecuted.
What is the concern about the White House's statement regarding planning attacks on Trump if he is acquitted?
-The concern is that such a statement could influence the jury's decision, as jurors may fear retaliation if they vote to acquit Trump.
Outlines
🕵️♂️ Trump's New York Trial Deliberations and Legal Analysis
The discussion revolves around the resumption of former President Trump's trial in New York, with Judge Merchan providing instructions to the jury. The deliberations are expected to be lengthy, possibly extending from hours to weeks. Trump's attorney is criticized for attacking Cohen's credibility, while the prosecution emphasizes Daniels' testimony as a motive for the alleged crime. Andrew Cherkasky, a former federal prosecutor, believes the prosecution has failed to prove the basic elements of the crime, particularly the incorrect entry into business records. He suggests that the jury has been given enough to acquit Trump but acknowledges the unpredictability of a 'blue jury' in New York. The conversation also touches on the possibility of a hung jury and the implications of a retrial before the November election. Concerns are raised about the fairness of the judicial process and the potential political motivations behind the case.
📜 Legal Debate on Trump's Case and Jury Instructions
This segment delves into the complexities of Trump's legal case, focusing on the judge's instructions to the jury, which are deemed critical. The panelists express concern over the judge's refusal to clarify certain legal aspects, such as the nature of hush money payments and the potential for a non-unanimous verdict on the secondary offense. The discussion highlights the confusion surrounding the alleged crime and the secrecy of the second offense. There is also mention of Judge Merchan's reprimand of Trump's lawyer during closing arguments and the subsequent misconduct complaint filed against the judge by Elise Stefanik. The conversation suggests that the judicial process may be influenced by political bias and that the outcome of the trial could be used for political leverage, indicating a 'lawfare' system at play.
🏛️ Political Implications and Public Reaction to Trump's Trial
The final paragraph discusses the potential reactions to the trial's verdict and the political implications it may carry. It contemplates the scenarios of an acquittal, conviction, or a hung jury, and how each could be manipulated for political gain. The Biden administration's potential responses are hypothesized, with concerns about further distortion of justice and the perpetuation of a 'lawfare' system. The conversation underscores the depth of the issue, suggesting that the trial is not just a legal matter but also a reflection of the broader political climate and its impact on the judiciary.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Deliberations
💡Acquittal
💡Prosecution
💡Defense
💡Business Records
💡Legal Expense
💡Credibility
💡Hush Money
💡Jury Instructions
💡Misdemeanor
💡Political Process
Highlights
Former President Trump's New York trial resumes with Judge Merchan giving instructions to the jury, which should take about an hour.
Deliberations in the trial could last from a few hours to a few weeks, indicating the complexity of the case.
Trump's attorney is spending the image out of closing, attacking Cohen's credibility, calling him the 'greatest liar of all time'.
The prosecution defended the importance of Daniels' testimony, saying it illustrated the motive for the crime.
Andrew Cherkassky, a former federal prosecutor, believes the jury has everything they need to reach an acquittal.
The prosecution failed to prove some of the basic elements of the crime, specifically the entry into the business records of legal expenses being incorrect.
The possibility of a hung jury is considered interesting, as it could be a victory for Trump, though it would lead to a mistrial.
The DA's office would likely retry Trump if a hung jury occurs, potentially before the November election.
The legal gymnastics in the case, including the judge's refusal to clarify the second offense, are ripe for appeal.
The jury instructions given by Judge Merchan are considered central to some of the problems in the legal system, including the refusal to allow the jury to know that hush money payments are not illegal.
There are concerns about the impartiality and independence of the New York judicial process, with suggestions of political influence on the selection of judges.
The White House has indicated plans for attacks on Trump if he gets acquitted, which is considered outrageous given the jury's promise to be fair.
The potential for a mistrial and the possibility of the case being re-tried are significant, especially if a hung jury occurs.
The discussion highlights the deep issues within the New York judicial process and the potential for political influence on legal outcomes.
The transcript reflects a high level of concern and discussion about the fairness and justice of the legal process, particularly in relation to Trump's case.
Transcripts
MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S' NEW
YORK TRIAL RESUMES TODAY AT
10:00 A.M. EASTERN.
JUDGE MERCHAN WILL GIVE
INSTRUCTIONS TO THE JURY WHICH
SHOULD TAKE ABOUT AN A HOUR.
THEY'LL BEGIN DELIBERATING UNTIL
4:30 P.M. TODAY AND WILL
CONTINUE TOMORROW.
DELIBERATIONS COULD LAST FROM A
FEW HOURS TO A FEW WEEKS.
TRUMP'S ATTORNEY SPENDING THE
IMAGE OUT OF CLOSING
ARRESTINGMENTS ATTACKING COHEN'S
CREDIBILITY, CALLING HIM THE
GLOAT, THE GREATEST LIAR OF ALL
TIME.
THE PROSECUTION DEFENDED THE
IMPORTANCE OF DANIELS' TESTIMONY
SAYING IT ILLUSTRATED THE MOTIVE
FOR THE CRIME.
JOINING ME IS ANDREW CHERKASKY,
A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE
THIS MORNING.
>> THANK YOU.
MARIA: TELL US WHAT YOU GLEANED
FROM ALL A OF THIS, WHAT'S MOST
IMPORTANT, WHAT SHOULD WE BE
AWARE OF?
>> I THINK TODD BLANCHE GAVE THE
JURY EVERYTHING THEY NEED IN
ORDER TO REACH AN ACQUITTAL,
REACH A VERDICT OF NOT GUILTY IN
THE CASE AND I THINK THAT'S VERY
JUSTIFIED UNDER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE PROSECUTION FAILED ENTIRELY
TO PROVE SOME OF THE BASIC
ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME HERE,
SPECIFICALLY THAT THE ENTRY INTO
THE BUSINESS RECORDS OF LEGAL
EXPENSES WAS INCORRECT.
NOT EVEN A QUESTION OF WHETHER
DONALD TRUMP HAD A CRIMINAL
INTENT IN MIND BUT WHETHER THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING ELSE
AND BEING ON FOX BUSINESS I
THINK THAT MOST BUSINESS PEOPLE
KNOW YOU BOOK YOUR EXPENSES.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU BOOK AN EXPENSE
TO A LAWYER AS A LEGAL EXPENSE.
IF THEY CAN'T GET OVER THAT
HURDLE THEY DON'T HAVE A
CONVICTION SO I THINK THEY'RE
SET UP FOR AN YOU AQUITAL BUT
IT'S -- AN YOU ACQUITTAL.
BUT IT'S NEW YORK.
IT'S A BLUE JURY.
THEY COULD HAVE HOLDOUTS.
THIS COULD GO ANY DIRECTION.
I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING
THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS A
HUNG JURY AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
AFTER THAT.
MARIA: YEAH, A HUNG JURY THOSE
BE A VICTORY FOR TRUMP EVEN
THOUGH THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A
MISTRIAL, RIGHT?
YOU.
>> YOU THINK OF IT AS BEING A
VICTORY FOR TRUMP BUT THEN THE
DA'S OFFICE WOULD HAVE THE
OPTION OF RETRYING HIM AND THEY
LIKELY WOULD.
ALVIN BRAGG ISN'T LIKELY TO PULL
BACK.
MARIA: NO, HE'S NOT.
>> AT THIS POINT.
SO THEN IF IT'S A RETRIAL, THEY
CAN GO BACK TO TRIAL ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY AND I THINK JUDGE
MERCHAN COULD ORDER THIS BACK TO
TRIAL AHEAD OF THE NOVEMBER
ELECTION AND SO WE COULD BE
GOING THROUGH THIS ALL OVER
AGAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO
DO NEW DISCOVERY, NEW MOTIONS,
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY COULD BE BACK AT TRIAL
DOING THIS ALL OVER BEFORE THE
ELECTION IF IT'S A HUNG JURY SO
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST
OUTCOME FOR.
MARIA: SO IT'S EITHER A HUNG
JURY OR OF UNANIMOUS GUILTY OR
NOT GUILTY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
MARIA: WHAT DO YOU THINK, MIKE.
>> YOU WORKED AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANYBODY THAT'S
LIKE THE NUMBER TWO, THREE OR
FOUR LEAVE THAT POLITICAL
APPOINTEE POST TO BECOME A LIVE
PROSECUTOR IN THE CITY?
>> THIS LOOKS LIKE A PLANT.
YOU SEE FROM TIME TO TIME
CERTAIN PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT
OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND
THEY GO TO KIND OF A SPECIALIZED
JOB OR MORE SPECIALIZED JOB
WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT SOMEWHERE
YOU USUALLY GO FROM THE STATE.
BUT THE IDEA THAT CO-ANGELO
ISN'T PART OF THE GREATER BIDEN
CONSPIRACY TO TAKE DOWN DONALD
TRUMP, THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS.
HE'S AT THE CENTER OF IT.
FOR JUDGE MERCHAN TO HAVE GAGGED
DONALD TRUMP ON COANGELO
SPECIFICALLY, HE'S A POLITICAL
PLAYER AT THIS POINT.
I FIND THAT TO BE OUTRAY JUST.
OUTRAGEOUS.MARIA: YOU SAID THEL
INSTRUCTIONS THE JUDGE GIVES TO
THE JURY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING THAT HAPPENS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
THE JUDGE IS TELLING THE JURY
HOW TO APPLY THE FACTS TO THE
LAW, WHAT THE BIG DECISIONS ARE.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE THE LAW IN THIS
CASE AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE
CONFUSION THAT'S BEEN THERE AND
WE'VE ALL BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT
IT SINCE THE BEGINNING,
COMMENTATORS ON THE LEFT AND
RIGHT.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
CRIME IS, NOT ONLY DO WE NOT
UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE BASIC
IDEA OF WHY THEY THINK THE
MISDEMEANOR IS THERE BUT THEY
HAVE TO HAVE AN ELEVATING SECOND
OFFENSE AND THE SECOND OFFENSE
HAS BEEN KEPT A SECRET THE WHOLE
TIME.
THE DEFENSE DEMANDED FURTHER
CLARITY ON THAT.
THEY REFUSED TO GIVE IT.
THE JUDGE HASN'T REQUIRED IT.
AS THEY GET INTO THE
INSTRUCTIONS THE JUDGE IS
INSTRUCTED THE MEMBERS THEY
DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A UNANIMOUS
VERDICT AS TO THEIR THEORY AS TO
THE SECONDARY OFFENSE AND SO WE
REALLY HAVE SOME OUTRAGEOUS KIND
OF LEGAL GYMNASTICS GOING ON,
ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE RIPE FOR
APPEAL AND I THINK VERY STRONG
APPEALS BUT IF HE'S CONVICTED I
DON'T SEE ANY WAY GETS TO THE
APPELLATE COURT BEFORE THE
ELECTION SO THERE WOULD BE A
CONVICTION HANGING OVER HIM,
MAYBE OVERTURNED AFTER HE
BECOMES THE NEXT PRESIDENT OR
LOSES THE ELECTION, POTENTIALLY
BECAUSE OF THIS VERDICT.
THE DEGREES OF UNFAIRNESS AND
INJUSTICE THAT ARE GOING ON I
THINK ARE REALLY TROUBLING AND
THOSE JURY INSTRUCTIONS ARE
CENTER TO SOME OF THE PROBLEMS
THAT WE HAVE HERE.
MARIA: THAT IS JUST
EXTRAORDINARY HE THAT THIS IS
TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW.
HOW DO YOU SEE IT?
>> I HAVE TO AGREE WITH ANDREW.
I'M TERRIFIED ABOUT THE JURY
INSTRUCTIONS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CRUX OF
THIS, JUDGE MERCHAN REFUSES TO
LET THE JURY KNOW THAT HUSH
MONEY PAYMENTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
WHAT IS HUSH MONEY.
THERE'S SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS.
REPORTERS DO IT ALL THE TIME.
THEY WORKED ON THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN.
THEY CATCHED AND KILLED MANY,
MANY STORIES AND THERE'S NOTHING
WRONG WITH THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL WITH
THESE TYPE OF SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENTS BUT THE JUDGE IS
REFUSING TO ALLOW THAT
INSTRUCTION TO A JURY SO THERE'S
SO MUCH KAYE KAYE GLOSS THAT --
CHAOS IN THAT JURY ROOM.
I'M HOPING THAT DELIBERATIONS
ONLY TAKE A COUPLE HOURS.
THERE'S TWO LAWYERS.
I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THEY CAN
WEAVE THROUGH SOME OF THE
INSTRUCTIONS AND SAY HERE'S THE
CRUX, BUSINESS RECORDS.
MARIA: THERE WERE PHI WORKS
THIS WEEK.
JUDGE MERCHAN REPRIMANDED
TRUMP'S LAWYER DURING CLOSING
ARGUMENTS YESTERDAY.
BLANCHE TOLD THE JURY THEY CAN'T
SEND SOMEONE TO PRISON BASED ON
THE WORDS OF MICHAEL COHEN.
MERCHAN CALLING THE STATEMENT
OUT RAY JUST, HIGHLY
INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE JURORS ARE
NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE PUNISHMENT
INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN
DELIBERATING.
ELISE STEFANIK FILED A
MISCONDUCT COMPLAINT AGAINST
JUDGE MERCHAN INSISTING HIS
SELECTION TO HANDLE TRUMP'S CASE
IS NOT RANDOM, CALLING ON THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL TO
INVESTIGATE.
ANDREW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
ON THIS?
THIS IS THE SAME JUDGE THAT
OVERSAW STEVE BANNON AND OTHER
AREAS OF TRUMP'S WORLD.
I MEAN, WASN'T RANDOM THAT THEY
SELECTED HIM, WAS IT?
>> NO.
I THINK WE'VE GOT DEEP ISSUES IN
THE NEW YORK JUDICIAL PROCESS OF
GETTING JUDGES SELECTED.
HAS TO BE NEUTRAL AND
INDEPENDENT, THOSE BE RANDOM --
HAS TO BE RANDOM.
DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THAT WAY.
HE TONES BE PUT ON TRUMP CASES
ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME
SHUFFLING AND POKER PLAYING
GOING ON WITHIN THE JUDICIARY TO
MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO I THINK THAT
INVESTIGATION IS VERY IMPORTANT
AND THEN YESTERDAY WHEN WE SAW
JUDGE MERCHAN KIND OF GO AFTER
TODD BLANCHE, CALLING HIS
ARGUMENT OUTRAGEOUS, THAT'S WAY
OVER THE TOP.
THAT'S AN EASY MISTAKE TO MAKE
AS A DEFENSE COUNSEL.
YOU CAN SAY BE VERY CAREFUL
BEFORE YOU TAKE AWAY HIS FREEDOM
AND LIBERTY AND SO TO SAY JAIL,
TO KIND OF WORK THAT IN THERE, I
THINK IT'S A VERY GENERAL
GENERIC REFERRING TO THE IDEA OF
CONDEMNATION BY A JURY.
DON'T CONDEMN THIS MAN.
IT HAS GREAT CONSEQUENCE.
TO SAY THAT MENTIONING JAIL
VERSUS LIBERTY, JUSTICE,
FREEDOM, I THINK IT'S
OVER-THE-THE TOP TO CALL IT
OUTRAGEOUS AND LAMBAST THE WAY
HE DID.
MARIA: IT DOES MEAN JAIL.
>> NOT NECESSARILY.
HE COULD -- DONALD TRUMP COULD
AVOID JAIL WITH A CONVICTION
HERE.
AND SO I DO WORRY THAT BY
MENTIONING THAT, IT ALMOST
INVITES MERCHAN TO SEND HIM TO
JAIL BECAUSE HIS ATTORNEY SAID
SO, YOUR ATTORNEY SAID YOU WOULD
GO TO JAIL IF THE YOU WERE
CONVICTED AND THERE'S MIXED
OPINIONS I THINK IN THE LEGAL
COMMUNITY AS TO WHETHER THIS
CRIME UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES
CALLS FOR JAIL TIME AND I THINK
MERCHAN HAS A VERY HEAVY TASK,
IF THERE'S A CONVICTION, TO
DECIDE IF THERE'S ANY JAIL TIME,
A DAY, WEEK, MONTH, WHATEVER IS
PUT IN FRONT OF HIM.
THIS DOES NOT CALL FOR JAIL TIME
IN MOST CIRCUMSTANCES.
MARIA: THAT WOULD BE A NEW LOW
FOR THIS COUNTRY.
>> AFTER THE CIVIL TRIALS AND
NOW THIS, WHY WOULD ANYONE HAVE
ANY FAITH IN THE NEW YORK STATE
JUDICIAL SYSTEM?
>> CAN YOU IMAGINE DOING
BUSINESS IN NEW YORK WITH ANY
TYPE OF POLITICAL MAGNIFYING
GLASS ON YOU?
I MEAN, IT'S AT A POINT AT A
THIS TIME WHERE EVERYTHING
THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DONALD TRUMP
I THINK SCREAMS TO BUSINESS
FOLKS IN NEW YORK THAT THIS IS A
VERY PRECARIOUS PLACE TO BE AND
THE POLITICS THAT YOU BRING TO
THE TABLE WILL HAVE A DIRECT
IMPACT ON HOW THE STATE
INVESTIGATES YOU AND THE
POTENTIAL THEY TRY TO PUT YOU IN
JAIL WHERE THEY DON'T DO THAT TO
COMPATRIOTS WHO ARE POLITICALLY
FAVORABLE.
MARIA: DOES THE JURY HEAR THIS?
IS THE JURY GOING TO SAY LISTEN,
IF I REALLY DISCUSS HOW I
ACTUALLY FEEL, THIS IS UNFAIR,
HE SHOULD BE ACQUITTED, THEY'LL
COME AFTER ME?
>> I HAVE FAITH IN THE JURY
SYSTEM.
I MIGHT BE THE FOOL.
I'VE BEEN DOING LEGAL WORK FOR A
COUPLE DECADES NOW AND I'VE HAD
HUNDREDS OF JURIES AND MOST
OFTEN COME BACK IN A JUST WAY SO
I HAVE TO HAVE FAITH IN THEM IN
ORDER TO CONTINUE MY JOB AND
STAY SANE BUT THERE ARE ISSUES
AND THERE ARE CONCERNS HERE IN
NEW YORK.
THERE'S TWO ATTORNEYS ON THERE.
THERE'S ALSO OTHER VERY
INTELLIGENT FOLKS.
THERE'S VERY PRACTICAL FOLKS.
THEY PROMISED TO BE FAIR.
MARIA: BUT THE WHITE HOUSE
ALREADY SAID WE'RE PLANNING
ATTACKS ON TRUMP IF GETS
ACQUITTED.
TO SAY THAT BEFORE THE JURY IS
ABOUT TO DELIBERATE, THAT'S
OUTRAGEOUS.
YOU WANT TO HAVING OUTRAGEOUS,
JUDGE MERCHAN, THAT'S
OUTRAGEOUS, FOR THE WHITE HOUSE
TO SAY WE'RE PLANNING ATTACKS ON
TRUMP SHOULD HE BE ACQUITTED.
THE JURY HEARS THAT, SAYS I
DON'T WANT TO GET ATTACKED.
>> EVERYTHING I HEARD ON THE
PANEL SIGNIFIES THIS IS A
POLITICAL PROCESS, IT'S WHAT I
HEAR FROM REGULAR PEOPLE
WATCHING IT, WHAT I HEAR FROM
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THAT'S WHY
YOU SEE CHAIRWOMAN STEFAN M NICK
TRYING TO WEIGH IN, MOVE THE
OVERSIGHT FORWARD.
>> THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO
UNPACK WITH THE WAY THAT THE
COUNTRY REACTS AND RESPONDS THE
VERDICT, WHICHEVER WAY THAT
GOES.
IF IT'S AN YOU ACQUITTAL, I
THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO AT THAT
POINT ADMIT THERE'S A TRUE
INJUSTICE.
NOW YOU'VE GOT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION NOT READY TO DO
THAT, I'M SURE.
I'M SURE THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN
ATTACK.
WELL, HE WAS PUT ON TRIAL AND
THAT MEANS HE'S AT LEAST
GUILTY,TRYING TO DISTORT THAT.
IF HE'S CONVICT, THEY'LL TRY TO
RUN AROUND THAT OVER AND A OVER
AGAIN.
AND FINALLY THE HUNG JURY
POTENTIAL AND A MISTRIAL, DO WE
GO BACK THERE, AND HOW DO THEY
TAKE ALL OF THE OTHER TRIALS
THAT ARE GOING ON AND TRY TO
CAPITALIZE ON THOSE, IT'S LAW
FARE.
I THINK THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
WE'RE DEEP IN A LAW FARE SYSTEM
AND IT'S A REAL OOH PROBLEM.
MARIA: YEAH, IT SURE IS.
ANDREW, THANK YOU SO MUCH
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