the importance of picking a fight you'll never win
Summary
TLDRIn this engaging transcript, the conversation revolves around Doug Liman, a prominent Hollywood director known for movies like 'The Bourne Identity' and 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith.' Liman discusses his decision to boycott the South by Southwest premiere of his film 'Roadhouse' due to Amazon MGM's choice to release it on Prime streaming instead of in theaters. He shares his frustrations about the changing landscape of the film industry and the impact of such decisions on filmmakers and the viewing experience. Despite his public stance against Amazon, Liman ultimately attends the screening to support his film and the hard work of his cast and crew, highlighting the passion and dedication behind creating movies meant for the big screen.
Takeaways
- 🌧️ The frustration of not being able to ride a skateboard or bicycle in rainy New York City.
- 🚕 An unexpected taxi ride with a driver watching inappropriate content.
- 📺 Doug Liman's decision to boycott the South by Southwest premiere of his film 'Roadhouse'.
- 🎬 The controversy surrounding Amazon MGM's decision to bypass theaters for a Prime streaming release.
- 🔥 The impact of Amazon's acquisition of MGM and its implications for filmmakers and their projects.
- 🎥 Doug Liman's passion for making theatrical motion pictures and his disappointment with the streaming model.
- 🏇 The description of the 'Roadhouse' film as a party-like experience meant for the big screen.
- 💪 Liman's fight against Amazon for the theatrical release of 'Roadhouse' and eventually accepting the situation.
- 🎉 The importance of filmmakers standing up for their work and the value of cinema experience for audiences.
- 🤔 Reflection on the changing landscape of film distribution and its potential effects on the industry.
- 🌟 The personal journey of Doug Liman from independent films to big-budget Hollywood movies and his commitment to his artistic vision.
Q & A
What is the main issue the speaker faces when it rains in New York City?
-The speaker cannot ride their skateboard or bicycle when it rains in New York City.
What unexpected situation did the speaker encounter with a taxi driver in the video?
-The speaker was surprised to find a cab driver watching pictures of naked women while giving them a ride.
What is Doug Liman's stance on the South by Southwest premiere of his film 'Roadhouse'?
-Doug Liman is boycotting the premiere of 'Roadhouse' to protest Amazon MGM's decision to bypass theaters for a Prime streaming release.
How does the speaker describe their feelings towards YouTube?
-The speaker expresses their love for YouTube, indicating it as a platform that allows for freedom of expression and creativity.
What was the irony in Doug Liman's experience while making 'Identity' compared to his earlier films?
-The irony was that while making 'Identity', a high-budget movie, Liman was told what he couldn't do due to budget constraints, despite having more resources than in his earlier low-budget films like 'Swingers'.
What is the purpose of the space where Doug Liman and the speaker are talking?
-The space is a mixing studio for films, designed to replicate the acoustics of a movie theater for films destined for the big screen, and the acoustics of a living room for TV or streaming content.
Why does Doug Liman wear a cowboy hat?
-Liman wears a cowboy hat as a symbolic gesture of being at war with Amazon, after an encounter with Jeff Bezos wearing a cowboy hat, and as a nod to the western theme of his film 'Roadhouse'.
What was Doug Liman's reaction to Amazon's decision to not release 'Roadhouse' in theaters?
-Liman was disappointed and felt that Amazon was giving him and the public the shaft by not releasing 'Roadhouse' in theaters as promised.
How does the speaker describe the viewing experience of 'Roadhouse'?
-The speaker describes 'Roadhouse' as a party-like experience with great music and bar fights, meant to be enjoyed in a theater setting with an audience.
What is the significance of the billboard with Doug Liman's image?
-The billboard signifies the promotional effort for 'Roadhouse' and serves as a reminder of the film's intended theatrical release.
What does the speaker conclude about Doug Liman's situation with Amazon?
-The speaker concludes that Liman was right to stand up for his film and that he appreciated Liman's sense of humor and humility in showing support for his crew and actors despite the situation.
Outlines
🌧️ Rainy NYC Taxi Ride and Hollywood Dilemma
The speaker begins by describing the inconvenience of rain in New York City, which prevents him from riding his skateboard or bicycle, leading to a taxi ride where he encounters an unusual situation of a cab driver watching inappropriate content. The conversation shifts to discuss Doug Liman's decision to boycott the South by Southwest premiere of his film 'Roadhouse' due to Amazon MGM bypassing theaters for a Prime streaming release. The speaker reflects on the implications of this move by a major Hollywood director and the broader issue of creative control versus corporate interests in the film industry.
🎬 The Battle for Theatrical Releases
The speaker continues the discussion about the film 'Roadhouse', highlighting the director's commitment to creating a movie for the big screen and the disappointment over Amazon's decision to prioritize streaming over theatrical releases. The narrative includes personal anecdotes about the challenges faced by filmmakers in securing theatrical releases and the emotional investment directors have in seeing their work on the big screen. Despite the setback, the director's decision to attend the screening to support his crew and the film underscores his dedication to the art of filmmaking.
🏆 The Triumph and Struggle of Filmmaking
In the final paragraph, the speaker reflects on the director's career, acknowledging the highs and lows of filmmaking. Despite the director's success in Hollywood, he faces the same challenges as independent filmmakers in terms of creative freedom and the influence of corporate entities. The speaker appreciates the director's stand for his film and the industry's broader issues. The summary ends with a nod to the director's personal growth and the shared passion for storytelling that unites filmmakers and audiences alike.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡New York City
💡South by Southwest
💡Amazon Prime
💡Theatrical Motion Picture
💡Independent Films
💡Film Distribution
💡Censorship
💡Creative Freedom
💡Filmmaking Challenges
💡Cinematic Experience
💡Artistic Integrity
Highlights
The problem with New York City when it's raining is that I can't ride my skateboard or bicycle.
The taxi ride experience with a driver watching inappropriate content.
Doug Liman's decision to boycott the South by Southwest premiere of his film 'Roadhouse' due to Amazon MGM's distribution strategy.
The impact of Amazon Prime's acquisition on traditional theatrical releases.
Doug Liman's frustration with Amazon for not honoring the theatrical release commitment.
The importance of the big screen experience for movies like 'Roadhouse'.
The irony of having more creative freedom in independent films versus big-budget movies.
The guerrilla filmmaking style used in 'Swingers' and 'Born Identity' due to budget constraints.
Doug Liman's realization of the power dynamics in the film industry and the struggle against Amazon.
The decision to attend the screening despite the boycott to support the film and the crew.
The emotional and practical challenges of making a movie and the disappointment of not having it shown in theaters.
The humorous and humble approach Doug Liman takes towards his situation with Amazon.
The support and camaraderie among filmmakers and the importance of standing up for one's work.
The unique experience of watching a movie in a theater versus on a streaming platform.
The unexpected encounter with Conor McGregor.
Transcripts
the problem with New York City when it's
raining is that I can't ride my
skateboard or a bicycle so
taxi how you doing I'm F I'm going to uh
55th between 9th and
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10th
okay thank you sir than
byebye I think in
uh 24 years 24 years of living in New
York City I've never had a cab driver
look at pictures of naked women while
giving me a ride before but that is that
is not what this video is about Doug
Lyman says he's boycotting South by
Southwest premiere of his Jake Jill Hall
film Roadhouse to protest Amazon MGM
bypassing theaters for Prime streaming
release okay so what this is about is
this big Hollywood director the guy that
directed like the born identity and Mr
and Mrs Smith and like a dozen other big
movies like Tom Cruz movies he made this
great movie called Roadhouse with Jake
Gyllenhaal and Conor McGregor and
apparently like Amazon Prime that paid
for the movie is like totally scream
over because they're refusing to put the
movie into theaters or something like
that facts I signed up to make a
theatrical motion picture for MGM Amazon
bought MGM Amazon said if I make a great
film we'll see what happens I made a
great film okay when I read something
like this two things occur to me number
one this is why I love YouTube and the
second thing I always wonder about is
like what actually is going on here what
actually happened I don't
understand and I'd love some answers and
the difference here is that this big
Hollywood
director this guy I happen to know
[Music]
him
[Music]
sound what is this place Doug this is
where we mixed Roadhouse did you get my
text you were watching porn in the C no
the taxi driver was watching porn while
I was driving what happens in here walk
me through what this space is so you
know this is this is where we mix the
audio for a film that's you know
destined for the big screen as you can
see it's it's the size of a of a movie
theater because the Acoustics of a movie
theater are different than say the
Acoustics of a living room this is where
you you mix a
movie that's for TV or streaming cuz it
replicate someone's living room I see do
you always wear a cowboy hat Doug I've
never seen you in a cowboy hat in my
entire life yeah I
mean it it wasn't lost to me I was in a
uh a shop in ASP and and uh Jeff Bezos
who I don't know uh came riding in on a
horse into the store into the store with
a cowboy hat you know I'm kind of at war
with Amazon and it wasn't sort of lost
on me the the sort of scale difference
of Jeff Bezos on his huge fraking horse
in the middle of the store with his
cowboy hat
and there's always a man above you like
you know as successful as I am in the in
the film business like right right you
always have to answer to
somebody you don't have to answer to
anybody no that's why I quit but but but
uh I got my start making Independent
films where there really wasn't anybody
telling me what I couldn't do the the
irony when I started doing born identity
was that we you know which was a huge
budget movie for me compared to coming
off films like
swingers and my line producer kept
telling me all these things we couldn't
afford to do and I was like I don't
understand on Swingers we just did them
we had no money and here we have all
this money and he was like you know
swingers look like [ __ ] and we can't
afford it and I sort of laughed to
myself and I was like you know in
swingers we couldn't afford the people
that told you what you couldn't do so we
just did everything you're a bad man
you're a bad man you're a Vegas baby
Vegas what were did you have to did you
steal shots on born identity we did
steal the the the look and feel of born
identity this whole shaky camera thing
that people thought was like on purpose
was more cuz like Matt Damon and I were
like running into like Garden or and
stealing shots we didn't have
permits I need to know what went wrong I
think he snapped but he has no
memory the born
identity did you know this was up here
no you didn't know that was there I did
not know that was
there it's pretty sizable billboard Doug
it's pretty big billboard
[Music]
is this where you edit yeah do you edit
yourself or do you like are you ever
yeah like I know how
a um is this still from Roadhouse yeah
all right so what is the what is this
fight that you picked with with Amazon
okay so uh you know we made Roadhouse
for the big
screen before we start do you have
insurance what your coverage good like
you have dental oh haha is there a
hospital nearby is it like too far about
like 25 minutes I'd say ah I just
slapped you are you all right
what shot out with IMAX cameras big
stars in it like Conor
McGregor hey fellas looks like you're
having a
smacky and it's it's a party right
there's some movies that like you know
you watch alone whatever but there's
some movies that are like that are a
party like Roadhouse is a party I mean
it's like it's like great music and
great bar fights I mean there's
obviously a lot more to it but at the
heart of it it's a
party Amazon plans to invest 1 billion a
year in movies for theaters and then it
turns out Amazon never had any intention
of putting it in theaters they they want
to put it on their streaming service and
sell you know toilet paper and
toothbrushes by the way I'm not the only
filmmaker that Amazon is doing this
to there's there's a string of
filmmakers who were promised you know a
theatrical release and then their films
were dumped on on streaming important
context here is the reason why Doug and
I know each other is what 15 years ago
or something when I was making what
became my HBO series I showed it to Doug
he's one of the first people who saw it
and he was like you've got something and
it's funny cuz all these years later
after making an HBO show I was like I
don't want to be a part of this industry
at all
I just want to do YouTube or I don't
have to answer to anyone and then I read
this story about you and you have to
answer to the man and it sounds like
he's giving you the the the shaft here
they are definitely giving me the shaft
um I mean they're giving the the public
the shaft that's the
[Music]
thing Doug what why are you going to
South by South what happened to your
boycott the whole point of this video is
cuz you're boycotting your own movie why
are you going
why did you
relent you
know it's tough to do but sometimes you
just have
to acknowledge that you
lost you took on Amazon you fought for
your
movie I literally did everything in my
power to try to get this movie into
theaters and I lost so on to the next
and if this is going to be
literally the only screening where
people can buy tickets and go see the
movie I want to be there let's go to
[Music]
Texas we go I mean the reason I make
moves
movies is is to then play it in front of
an audience like it's so much freaking
work to make a movie the
payoff is when you get to show it when
it's all
done turn it up turn it what's
good I hate [ __ ]
losing I mean I really I'm not a good
loser and I have very publicly lost here
but you're excited
now look at look at that look at here
look at that bus [ __ ] Amazon Prime on
its
[Music]
way how you
[Music]
doing weird is what weird this whole
thing no cuz you know what like I love
these guys I made the movie
with no I'm trying man I'm a dad now I'm
trying to keep
up gra you
over reck me incredibly well gave me the
confidence that I that I could do
[Music]
it
yeah H welcome J
djo nicest on the market did you make it
too strong no it is a bit strong but all
good now now let's get let's hit them
now
[Applause]
yeah tonight our incredible
[Music]
director so what what's the takeaway
here I think when I first read about
this even though I know Doug when I
first read about this I was like dude
what are you complaining about you have
the greatest job in the world you get to
direct big Hollywood movies you don't
get to complain about it but then as I
talk to the guy it's
like he's right the movie belongs in
theaters I got to see in the theater
it's great in the theater he was right
and if he didn't stick up for like his
movie that him and everybody else works
so hard on nobody would have stuck up
for it and even though it probably hurt
him cuz I know Amazon was pissed they
were there they weren't happy with him
with him and all the things that he had
said I appreciated immensely that he
stuck up for his for his picture and
then I also appreciated that he had like
the sense of humor and the humility to
show up and show the support for him and
his crew and the actors and everybody
that works so hard to make that movie so
good it's a great movie I'm sorry you
have to watch it on your iPads instead
of getting to see it in a theater like I
did but it's a great movie also um I
couldn't figure out how to work this
shot into into my little video but I got
to I got to meet Conor
[Music]
McGregor
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