What Is Happening To Korean Women? - MGTOW

Sandman
29 Apr 202410:59

TLDRThe video discusses the '4B' movement in South Korea, which stands for no dating, relationships, marriage, or child-rearing. This movement is contributing to the country's declining fertility rate, which is predicted to be 0.68 or lower this year. The speaker suggests that this trend could lead to a significant population decrease if it continues. The movement is a response to the patriarchal society in South Korea, with women choosing to live autonomously and focusing on financial independence rather than traditional gender roles. The video also touches on the potential global implications of such movements, including the possibility of a future where only the very wealthy and the very poor reproduce. The speaker advocates for innovative solutions to encourage reproduction and discusses the personal dilemma of balancing a desire for children with the challenges of social interaction due to personal trauma.

Takeaways

  • 📉 The 4B movement in South Korea is leading to a significant drop in the country's fertility rate, which is projected to be 0.68 or below in the current year.
  • 🏫 Over 150 elementary schools in South Korea have zero first graders, indicating a severe decline in the birth rate.
  • 🚫 The 4B movement stands for 'no dating, no relationships, no marriage, no sex, and no child-rearing,' reflecting a radical shift away from traditional gender roles and patriarchal norms.
  • 💪 South Korean women are adopting a more autonomous lifestyle, influenced by the patriarchal society they live in, and are choosing to distance themselves from men.
  • 📚 The movement was sparked in 2019 after a book by Kim J. Young, and has since caused a further 30-40% drop in fertility rates.
  • 💻 The internet and smartphones are enabling both men and women to lead solitary lives without the need for companionship, thus contributing to the decline in relationships and marriage.
  • 💰 The movement encourages women to focus on financial independence rather than spending on appearance to attract men.
  • 👚 Women identifying with the 4B movement wear plain black clothing and keep their hair short to appear less appealing to men.
  • 🌐 The decline in birth rates in South Korea could potentially influence a similar trend in Western countries, where some women are already choosing to remain single and independent.
  • 🧪 There is a suggestion that artificial wombs and surrogates could eventually replace the need for natural childbirth if women continue to avoid motherhood at replacement levels.
  • ⏳ The speaker expresses a personal dilemma regarding reproduction, considering surrogacy and adoption as potential solutions due to personal health and social anxieties.

Q & A

  • What does the '4B' movement in South Korea stand for?

    -The '4B' movement in South Korea stands for 'no dating, no relationships, no marriage, and no child-rearing' from Korean women to Korean men. It is a response to the patriarchal society and represents a radical stance against traditional gender roles and expectations.

  • What is the current fertility rate in South Korea and what are its implications?

    -The current fertility rate in South Korea is projected to be 0.68 or below, which is significantly below the replacement rate. If this trend continues, it could lead to a drastic decrease in the population, potentially threatening the country's social and economic stability.

  • How does the '4B' movement compare to the 'MGTOW' (Men Going Their Own Way) movement?

    -While both movements promote the idea of individuals living independently from traditional relationships and marriage, '4B' is specifically for women, focusing on their autonomy and liberation from patriarchal norms. 'MGTOW' is more commonly associated with men's rights and often criticizes what its proponents perceive as a biased legal system against men.

  • What role does technology play in the '4B' movement?

    -Technology, particularly the internet and smartphones, plays a significant role in the '4B' movement by providing a platform for women to connect, share ideas, and support each other. It also helps to alleviate loneliness and provides entertainment, which might otherwise have been a barrier to adopting such a radical lifestyle change.

  • What sparked the '4B' movement in South Korea?

    -The '4B' movement was sparked in 2019, following the publication of a book by Kim J. Young. The movement gained momentum as it resonated with women living in a very patriarchal society and wanting to challenge traditional norms and expectations.

  • How does the speaker perceive the future of human reproduction if current trends continue?

    -The speaker suggests that if current trends continue, there may be a need to find alternative methods of reproduction, such as artificial wombs and surrogacy, especially if traditional marriage and child-rearing continue to decline. They also speculate about the potential for AI and automation to impact the job market and societal structures.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the potential impact of AI and automation on society?

    -The speaker believes that AI and automation could lead to a significant job market disruption, potentially creating a large pool of impoverished individuals. They also suggest that the elite might use this situation to maintain control over a reduced population, possibly leading to a neo-feudal society.

  • What does the 'F.O.R.B.' movement promote in terms of women's financial behavior?

    -The 'F.O.R.B.' movement promotes the idea that women should save their money and invest it rather than spending it on expensive clothing and makeup. It encourages financial independence and focusing on long-term financial security.

  • How does the speaker relate the '4B' movement to potential changes in Western countries?

    -The speaker suggests that the '4B' movement could inspire similar movements in Western countries, leading to a decline in marriage and fertility rates. They speculate that this could force society to address the issue of reproduction without traditional family structures.

  • What is the speaker's personal dilemma regarding reproduction?

    -The speaker expresses a personal dilemma regarding reproduction due to their anxiety and autoimmune issues, which are exacerbated by being around people and animals. They are pro-natalist and wish to find a way to have children without the need for significant personal interaction, possibly through surrogacy and adoption.

  • What is the speaker's view on the potential future of the human race in terms of wealth and reproduction?

    -The speaker envisions a future where only the extremely wealthy and the very poor reproduce, with the middle class opting out due to financial concerns and the impact of technology on the job market. They suggest that becoming very wealthy could be a way to insulate oneself from potential societal upheavals.

Outlines

00:00

📉 The 4B Movement and South Korea's Fertility Crisis

The video discusses the 4B movement in South Korea, which stands for no dating, relationships, marriage, or child-rearing from Korean women to Korean men. This movement is a response to the patriarchal society and has contributed to a significant drop in the country's fertility rate, which is predicted to be 0.68 or lower. The speaker suggests that this trend could lead to a drastic reduction in the South Korean population if it continues. The movement is also compared to the 'Men Going Their Own Way' (MGTOW) in the West, and it is suggested that the internet and smartphones have enabled both men and women to disconnect from traditional relationships.

05:01

💰 Financial Independence and the Future of Reproduction

The second paragraph explores the idea that both Korean women in the 4B movement and men in the West are focusing on financial independence rather than traditional relationships. It discusses the potential economic implications of this trend and the speaker's personal views on the challenges of reproduction given societal and personal constraints. The video also touches on speculative futures where the wealthy and the poor are the primary groups reproducing, and the potential use of technology like artificial wombs and surrogacy to address fertility issues. The speaker expresses hope that the 4B movement will spread, forcing society to confront the population crisis and possibly leading to innovative solutions for reproduction.

10:01

🌐 East Asian Demographics and the Global Fertility Challenge

In the final paragraph, the speaker calls for observation of East Asian countries' demographic trends over the next 10 to 20 years as a potential harbinger for global patterns. The video concludes with a thanks to the donor, Roger, and an encouragement for viewers to engage with the content. It also mentions the channel's demonetization and offers alternative ways for viewers to support the content creator, such as through SubscribeStar or one-on-one coaching.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡4B Movement

The 4B Movement, also known as 'four nose', is a social trend in South Korea where women are choosing not to date, have relationships, marry, have sex, or bear children. This movement is a response to the patriarchal society in Korea and represents a radical departure from traditional gender roles. It is mentioned in the script as a significant factor contributing to the declining fertility rate in the country.

💡Fertility Rate

The fertility rate refers to the average number of children born per woman and is a key demographic statistic. In the video, it is highlighted that South Korea's fertility rate is projected to be 0.68 or lower, which is significantly below the replacement level of 2.1. This decline is a central theme of the video, as it indicates a potential future crisis for the country's population.

💡Patriarchy

Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and are dominant in roles of political leadership, moral authority, and social privilege. The script discusses how the patriarchal society in South Korea has influenced the 4B movement, as women are choosing to distance themselves from traditional roles and relationships to live more autonomously.

💡MTOW (Men Going Their Own Way)

MTOW is a concept where men choose to focus on their own self-development and well-being, often in response to perceived negative aspects of relationships with women. The video draws parallels between the MTOW movement and the 4B movement, suggesting that both are reactions to gender roles and societal expectations.

💡Internet and Smartphones

The script suggests that the internet and smartphones have enabled individuals to lead more solitary lives, reducing the need for companionship and potentially contributing to the decline in marriage and birth rates. These technologies provide constant entertainment and a source of dopamine, which can substitute for social interaction.

💡Financial Independence

The video discusses the importance of financial independence, particularly for women in the 4B movement who are encouraged to save money and invest in their future rather than spending on traditional gender roles like clothing and makeup. This concept is linked to the broader theme of self-sufficiency and autonomy.

💡Artificial Wombs and Surrogacy

The script touches on the potential future use of artificial wombs and surrogacy as alternatives to traditional childbearing. This is presented as a possible solution to the declining fertility rates if women continue to opt out of childbearing at current rates.

💡AI and Automation

The video mentions AI and automation as forces that could lead to widespread job displacement, which might in turn affect the economic stability and social structures that influence family formation and birth rates.

💡Immigration

Immigration is discussed as a current strategy used by some Western governments to address declining birth rates by increasing the population through the influx of immigrants. The script raises concerns about the sustainability of this approach as the countries from which immigrants are coming also experience declining fertility rates.

💡Population Crisis

The population crisis refers to the potential societal and economic challenges that may arise from a significant decline in population growth. The video suggests that declining fertility rates, particularly in countries like South Korea, could lead to such a crisis, prompting a need for new solutions to ensure the survival of the human race.

💡Fear and Motivation

The script suggests that fear, particularly the fear of poverty and destitution, can be a powerful motivator for people to have children as a form of insurance for their old age. This concept is tied to the broader discussion about the factors influencing reproductive behavior.

Highlights

The 4B movement in South Korea is leading to a significant drop in the country's fertility rate, predicted to be 0.68 or below in the current year.

150 elementary schools in South Korea have zero first graders, indicating a severe demographic issue.

If the fertility rate continues to decline, there could be a hypothetical scenario where only 250 South Koreans remain after 10 generations.

The 4B movement stands for no dating, no relationships, no marriage, no sex, and no child-rearing from Korean women to Korean men.

Korean women are promoting a lifestyle of autonomy, separate from traditional patriarchal expectations.

The movement was sparked in 2019 after the publication of a book by Kim J Young and has since caused a drop of 30-40% in fertility rates.

The internet and smartphones are enabling individuals to lead fulfilling lives without the need for companionship, thus affecting societal structures.

The speaker suggests that only a significant economic downturn, possibly caused by AI and automation, could force people to rely on each other for survival and reproduction.

Western women are also adopting a similar mindset, choosing careers and independence over traditional relationships and family structures.

The 4B movement encourages women to save money and invest, focusing on financial future over materialistic consumption.

The affluent middle class is identified as the demographic most reluctant to have children, unlike the wealthy and the poor.

The potential extinction of the Korean population is discussed as a serious consequence of the declining birth rate.

The speaker proposes the use of technology like artificial wombs and surrogacy as potential solutions to the declining birth rates.

The video suggests that mass migration is currently being used to fill demographic gaps, but the source countries also face similar fertility issues.

Korean women in the 4B movement adopt a uniform appearance to appear unappealing to men, as a form of protest against patriarchal norms.

The speaker expresses a personal dilemma regarding reproduction and the potential use of surrogacy and adoption due to personal health issues.

The video ends with a call to action for addressing the fertility crisis and the need for societal changes to encourage reproduction.